php-general Digest 20 Sep 2013 17:33:26 -0000 Issue 8369
php-general Digest 20 Sep 2013 17:33:26 - Issue 8369 Topics (messages 322111 through 322125): Friday's Question 322111 by: Tedd Sperling 322112 by: Larry Martell 322113 by: Aziz Saleh 322114 by: Daniel Brown 322115 by: Kirk.Johnson.zootweb.com 322116 by: Jeff Burcher 322117 by: Joshua Kehn 322119 by: Jen Rasmussen 322120 by: Larry Martell 322121 by: Joshua Kehn 322122 by: Larry Martell 322123 by: Larry Martell 322124 by: Daniel Brown 322125 by: Sean Greenslade Re: Apache 322118 by: Domain nikha.org Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: php-general-digest-subscr...@lists.php.net To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: php-general-digest-unsubscr...@lists.php.net To post to the list, e-mail: php-gene...@lists.php.net -- ---BeginMessage--- Hi gang: Do you use a Mousepad? My reason for asking is that I've used a Mousepad ever since mice first came out (back when they had one ball). Now that mice are optical (no balls), Mousepads are not really needed -- or so I'll told by the college -- you see, they don't provide Mousepads for their student's computers. As such, I wondered what's the percentage of programmers still using a Mousepad? Secondly, are Mousepads used primarily by older programmers (like me) while younger programmers don't use Mousepads, or what? So -- please respond with: Age: * Mousepad: Yes/No Thank you, tedd PS: * If you don't want to provide your actual age, then indicate your age by stating young, middle-age, old-age, ancient, or whatever term describes your age. Alternate -- I claim that you can tell a man's age by ten-times the number of personal products he routinely uses, for example: Years Old - Personal Products 10 Toothpaste 20 Toothpaste, Deodorant 30 Toothpaste, Deodorant, Aftershave 40 Toothpaste, Deodorant, Aftershave, Minoxidil 50 Toothpaste, Deodorant, Aftershave, Minoxidil, Preparation-H 60 Toothpaste, Deodorant, Aftershave, Minoxidil, Preparation-H, Bag Bomb 70 Toothpaste, Deodorant, Aftershave, Minoxidil, Preparation-H, Bag Bomb, Fixodent So, you could indicate age by stating Bag Bomb like me. ___ tedd sperling t...@sperling.com ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Tedd Sperling t...@sperling.com wrote: Hi gang: Do you use a Mousepad? My reason for asking is that I've used a Mousepad ever since mice first came out (back when they had one ball). Now that mice are optical (no balls), Mousepads are not really needed -- or so I'll told by the college -- you see, they don't provide Mousepads for their student's computers. As such, I wondered what's the percentage of programmers still using a Mousepad? Secondly, are Mousepads used primarily by older programmers (like me) while younger programmers don't use Mousepads, or what? So -- please respond with: Age: * Mousepad: Yes/No 54 Yes ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Haha, like your product usage chart Tedd, Age: 31 Mousepad: Webster New Dictionary of Synonyms, too lazy of having to go to Microcenter and buy one! Aziz On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Larry Martell la...@software-horizons.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Tedd Sperling t...@sperling.com wrote: Hi gang: Do you use a Mousepad? My reason for asking is that I've used a Mousepad ever since mice first came out (back when they had one ball). Now that mice are optical (no balls), Mousepads are not really needed -- or so I'll told by the college -- you see, they don't provide Mousepads for their student's computers. As such, I wondered what's the percentage of programmers still using a Mousepad? Secondly, are Mousepads used primarily by older programmers (like me) while younger programmers don't use Mousepads, or what? So -- please respond with: Age: * Mousepad: Yes/No 54 Yes -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Tedd Sperling t...@sperling.com wrote: Hi gang: Do you use a Mousepad? I'm in my mid-thirties and - despite having an optical mouse - I do indeed still use a mousepad. A customized one that the wife did for me for Christmas one year: images of Futurama, the Cleveland Browns, Minnesota Vikings, and several aircraft, all surrounding a picture of her and our daughter. I've found that shiny surfaces - such as my desk - reflect too much of the laser, causing the mouse to be far less responsive. -- /Daniel P. Brown Network Infrastructure Manager http://www.php.net/ ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Tedd Sperling t...@sperling.com wrote on 09/20/2013 10:51:49 AM: Do you use a Mousepad?
[PHP] Friday's Question
Hi gang: Do you use a Mousepad? My reason for asking is that I've used a Mousepad ever since mice first came out (back when they had one ball). Now that mice are optical (no balls), Mousepads are not really needed -- or so I'll told by the college -- you see, they don't provide Mousepads for their student's computers. As such, I wondered what's the percentage of programmers still using a Mousepad? Secondly, are Mousepads used primarily by older programmers (like me) while younger programmers don't use Mousepads, or what? So -- please respond with: Age: * Mousepad: Yes/No Thank you, tedd PS: * If you don't want to provide your actual age, then indicate your age by stating young, middle-age, old-age, ancient, or whatever term describes your age. Alternate -- I claim that you can tell a man's age by ten-times the number of personal products he routinely uses, for example: Years Old - Personal Products 10 Toothpaste 20 Toothpaste, Deodorant 30 Toothpaste, Deodorant, Aftershave 40 Toothpaste, Deodorant, Aftershave, Minoxidil 50 Toothpaste, Deodorant, Aftershave, Minoxidil, Preparation-H 60 Toothpaste, Deodorant, Aftershave, Minoxidil, Preparation-H, Bag Bomb 70 Toothpaste, Deodorant, Aftershave, Minoxidil, Preparation-H, Bag Bomb, Fixodent So, you could indicate age by stating Bag Bomb like me. ___ tedd sperling t...@sperling.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Friday's Question
-Original Message- From: larry.mart...@gmail.com [mailto:larry.mart...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Larry Martell Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:26 PM To: j...@cetaceasound.com Cc: Tedd Sperling; PHP General Subject: Re: [PHP] Friday's Question On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Jen Rasmussen j...@cetaceasound.com wrote: -Original Message- What in the heck is a Bag Bomb? It's a salve for cow udders. Not sure what a person would do with it. Ha! Interesting. Thanks :) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Friday's Question
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Joshua Kehn josh.k...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 20, 2013, at 1:26 PM, Larry Martell la...@software-horizons.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Joshua Kehn josh.k...@gmail.com wrote: Slightly snobbish solution: Don't use windows. Unfortunately required to VPN into most of my clients corporate networks. Windows is required to VPN in? I'm guessing they use some proprietary client then? --jk Yes, and/or they validate the host ID, and/or there's some soft key RSA thing involved. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Friday's Question
On Sep 20, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Daniel Brown danbr...@php.net wrote: I'm in my mid-thirties and - despite having an optical mouse - I do indeed still use a mousepad. A customized one that the wife did for me for Christmas one year: images of Futurama, the Cleveland Browns, Minnesota Vikings, and several aircraft, all surrounding a picture of her and our daughter. I've found that shiny surfaces - such as my desk - reflect too much of the laser, causing the mouse to be far less responsive. -- /Daniel P. Brown Network Infrastructure Manager http://www.php.net/ I'm in my 20's and rarely, if ever, use a dedicated mouse. I've transitioned to having all my workstations be laptops of one sort or another and they have built-in trackpads. Of course I also rarely use the mouse when there are so many keyboard shortcuts available. Best, –Josh Joshua Kehn | @joshkehn http://joshuakehn.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Friday's Question
Tedd Sperling t...@sperling.com wrote on 09/20/2013 10:51:49 AM: Do you use a Mousepad? [-snip-] Age: Bag Bomb Mousepad: Yes Padding for my wrist and quieter moving the mouse around - no scraping. So yes, I'm even too old to be plugged into an iPud or an iPeed, whatever they are :) Kirk
RE: [PHP] Friday's Question
-Original Message- From: Tedd Sperling [mailto:t...@sperling.com] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:52 PM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP] Friday's Question Hi gang: Do you use a Mousepad? My reason for asking is that I've used a Mousepad ever since mice first came out (back when they had one ball). Now that mice are optical (no balls), Mousepads are not really needed -- or so I'll told by the college -- you see, they don't provide Mousepads for their student's computers. As such, I wondered what's the percentage of programmers still using a Mousepad? Secondly, are Mousepads used primarily by older programmers (like me) while younger programmers don't use Mousepads, or what? So -- please respond with: Age: * Mousepad: Yes/No Thank you, tedd PS: * If you don't want to provide your actual age, then indicate your age by stating young, middle-age, old-age, ancient, or whatever term describes your age. Alternate -- I claim that you can tell a man's age by ten-times the number of personal products he routinely uses, for example: Years Old - Personal Products 10Toothpaste 20Toothpaste, Deodorant 30Toothpaste, Deodorant, Aftershave 40Toothpaste, Deodorant, Aftershave, Minoxidil 50Toothpaste, Deodorant, Aftershave, Minoxidil, Preparation-H 60Toothpaste, Deodorant, Aftershave, Minoxidil, Preparation-H, Bag Bomb 70Toothpaste, Deodorant, Aftershave, Minoxidil, Preparation-H, Bag Bomb, Fixodent So, you could indicate age by stating Bag Bomb like me. ___ tedd sperling t...@sperling.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Age: 54 Mousepad: Yes Laser mice don't like reflective surfaces so much and if I don't carve out desk space for my mouse with a mousepad, I find that moving my mouse over multiple sheets of paper, paperclips, and whatnot is not very effective and somewhat frustrating. Jeff -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Friday's Question
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Tedd Sperling t...@sperling.com wrote: Hi gang: Do you use a Mousepad? My reason for asking is that I've used a Mousepad ever since mice first came out (back when they had one ball). Now that mice are optical (no balls), Mousepads are not really needed -- or so I'll told by the college -- you see, they don't provide Mousepads for their student's computers. As such, I wondered what's the percentage of programmers still using a Mousepad? Secondly, are Mousepads used primarily by older programmers (like me) while younger programmers don't use Mousepads, or what? So -- please respond with: Age: * Mousepad: Yes/No Age: 21 Mouse: No, so why would I need a mousepad?
RE: [PHP] Friday's Question
-Original Message- From: Tedd Sperling [mailto:t...@sperling.com] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:52 AM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP] Friday's Question Hi gang: Do you use a Mousepad? My reason for asking is that I've used a Mousepad ever since mice first came out (back when they had one ball). Now that mice are optical (no balls), Mousepads are not really needed -- or so I'll told by the college -- you see, they don't provide Mousepads for their student's computers. As such, I wondered what's the percentage of programmers still using a Mousepad? Secondly, are Mousepads used primarily by older programmers (like me) while younger programmers don't use Mousepads, or what? So -- please respond with: Age: * Mousepad: Yes/No Thank you, tedd PS: * If you don't want to provide your actual age, then indicate your age by stating young, middle-age, old-age, ancient, or whatever term describes your age. Alternate -- I claim that you can tell a man's age by ten-times the number of personal products he routinely uses, for example: Years Old - Personal Products 10 Toothpaste 20 Toothpaste, Deodorant 30 Toothpaste, Deodorant, Aftershave 40 Toothpaste, Deodorant, Aftershave, Minoxidil 50 Toothpaste, Deodorant, Aftershave, Minoxidil, Preparation-H 60 Toothpaste, Deodorant, Aftershave, Minoxidil, Preparation-H, Bag Bomb 70 Toothpaste, Deodorant, Aftershave, Minoxidil, Preparation-H, Bag Bomb, Fixodent So, you could indicate age by stating Bag Bomb like me. ___ tedd sperling t...@sperling.com 41 Mouse (yes) - I already have issues with my hands from work (carpal tunnel) so I need all the cushion I can get, andoh yeah Fixodent LOL. What in the heck is a Bag Bomb? Jen -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Apache
Hi Arno!
Seems to be the standard behaviour of Apache servers all over the
world!
I was testing this way:
First I renamed a real, proper GIF-file to this.php.nice.gif, put it
in the root of my websites and called it with the browser. Result:
Error 500 Internal Server Error. The logfile tells: Premature end of
script headers: this.php.nice.gif.
Then I did infect the same GIF-file with some PHP-Code (?php echo
Hello, I'm evel; ?), renamed it to this.php.evel.gif, put it in the
root, called it with the browser. The result was exactly the same: Error
500, Premature end of script headers.
That means, wether the file is infected or not, it IS passed to the PHP
interpreter only because it contains somewehere .php in his name!
Then I renamed a real PHP script to test.php.gif. This finaly produced
the following response from my web hoster:
_QUOTE_
Files with Extra .php. Extension
If you were directed to this page, you probably tried viewing a file
that contains .php. in its name, such as image.php.jpeg or image.php.
(note the extra dot at the end).
The site you were visiting uses the Apache Web server, which will
usually attempt to run such files as PHP scripts (instead of allowing
your browser to display them as images, or completely failing to run
them, as you'd probably expect).
Allowing those files to run as a PHP script is a security vulnerability,
as seen in exploits for WordPress and Joomla. Because of that, we block
requests to these files.
If youre the owner of this site and you want to use a real image that
includes .php. as part of the name, please rename the file.
_END QUOTE_
Sounds reasonable. And means, you really must protect your uploadings.
A simple way:
$filename = str_replace('.php', '', $_FILES['userfile']['name']);
move_uploaded_file($_FILES['userfile']['tmp_name'],
'yourdirectory/'.$filename);
Hope, this helps,
Niklaus
Arno Kuhl am Donnerstag, 19. September 2013 - 16:14:
Arno: If you can request that file using a web browser, and it gets
executed
as PHP on your server then there is an error in the Apache
configuration.
Easy test: create a file in a text editor containing some PHP (?php
phpinfo(); ? would be enough) and upload it to the www root of your
site
and name it test.pgif. Then hit http://www.yourdomain.com/test.pgif in
your
browser. If you see the PHP code or an error then you're fine. If you
see
PHP's info page then you need to change web host as quickly as
possible. I
don't care if they fix it - the fact their server was configured to do
this
by default is enough for me to never trust them again.
-Stuart
--
Thanks Stuart. I just tried it now, test.php.pgif displayed the info
while
test.xyz.pgif returned the content, confirming the problem. My
service
provider finally conceded the problem is on their side and are looking
for
an urgent fix, much too complicated to consider moving service
providers in
the short term.
As a side note, the sp said the issue is new and coincided with an
upgrade
to fastcgi recently, I wonder if the hacker was exploiting a known
issue
with that scenario?
Cheers
Arno
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Re: [PHP] Friday's Question
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Tedd Sperling t...@sperling.com wrote: Hi gang: Do you use a Mousepad? I'm in my mid-thirties and - despite having an optical mouse - I do indeed still use a mousepad. A customized one that the wife did for me for Christmas one year: images of Futurama, the Cleveland Browns, Minnesota Vikings, and several aircraft, all surrounding a picture of her and our daughter. I've found that shiny surfaces - such as my desk - reflect too much of the laser, causing the mouse to be far less responsive. -- /Daniel P. Brown Network Infrastructure Manager http://www.php.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Friday's Question
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Tedd Sperling t...@sperling.com wrote: Hi gang: Do you use a Mousepad? My reason for asking is that I've used a Mousepad ever since mice first came out (back when they had one ball). Now that mice are optical (no balls), Mousepads are not really needed -- or so I'll told by the college -- you see, they don't provide Mousepads for their student's computers. As such, I wondered what's the percentage of programmers still using a Mousepad? Secondly, are Mousepads used primarily by older programmers (like me) while younger programmers don't use Mousepads, or what? So -- please respond with: Age: * Mousepad: Yes/No 54 Yes -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Friday's Question
Haha, like your product usage chart Tedd, Age: 31 Mousepad: Webster New Dictionary of Synonyms, too lazy of having to go to Microcenter and buy one! Aziz On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Larry Martell la...@software-horizons.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Tedd Sperling t...@sperling.com wrote: Hi gang: Do you use a Mousepad? My reason for asking is that I've used a Mousepad ever since mice first came out (back when they had one ball). Now that mice are optical (no balls), Mousepads are not really needed -- or so I'll told by the college -- you see, they don't provide Mousepads for their student's computers. As such, I wondered what's the percentage of programmers still using a Mousepad? Secondly, are Mousepads used primarily by older programmers (like me) while younger programmers don't use Mousepads, or what? So -- please respond with: Age: * Mousepad: Yes/No 54 Yes -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Friday's Question
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Joshua Kehn josh.k...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 20, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Daniel Brown danbr...@php.net wrote: I'm in my mid-thirties and - despite having an optical mouse - I do indeed still use a mousepad. A customized one that the wife did for me for Christmas one year: images of Futurama, the Cleveland Browns, Minnesota Vikings, and several aircraft, all surrounding a picture of her and our daughter. I've found that shiny surfaces - such as my desk - reflect too much of the laser, causing the mouse to be far less responsive. I'm in my 20's and rarely, if ever, use a dedicated mouse. I've transitioned to having all my workstations be laptops of one sort or another and they have built-in trackpads. Of course I also rarely use the mouse when there are so many keyboard shortcuts available. When I'm on my MacBook (which is most of the time) I use the trackpad. But in the unfortunate times I have to be on a Windows box I always connect a mouse. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Friday's Question
On Sep 20, 2013, at 1:26 PM, Larry Martell la...@software-horizons.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Joshua Kehn josh.k...@gmail.com wrote: Slightly snobbish solution: Don't use windows. Unfortunately required to VPN into most of my clients corporate networks. Windows is required to VPN in? I'm guessing they use some proprietary client then? --jk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Friday's Question
On 20 sep. 2013, at 18:51, Tedd Sperling t...@sperling.com wrote: Hi gang: Do you use a Mousepad? My reason for asking is that I've used a Mousepad ever since mice first came out (back when they had one ball). Now that mice are optical (no balls), Mousepads are not really needed -- or so I'll told by the college -- you see, they don't provide Mousepads for their student's computers. As such, I wondered what's the percentage of programmers still using a Mousepad? Secondly, are Mousepads used primarily by older programmers (like me) while younger programmers don't use Mousepads, or what? So -- please respond with: Age: * Mousepad: Yes/No Thank you, tedd PS: * If you don't want to provide your actual age, then indicate your age by stating young, middle-age, old-age, ancient, or whatever term describes your age. Alternate -- I claim that you can tell a man's age by ten-times the number of personal products he routinely uses, for example: Years Old - Personal Products 10Toothpaste 20Toothpaste, Deodorant 30Toothpaste, Deodorant, Aftershave 40Toothpaste, Deodorant, Aftershave, Minoxidil 50Toothpaste, Deodorant, Aftershave, Minoxidil, Preparation-H 60Toothpaste, Deodorant, Aftershave, Minoxidil, Preparation-H, Bag Bomb 70Toothpaste, Deodorant, Aftershave, Minoxidil, Preparation-H, Bag Bomb, Fixodent So, you could indicate age by stating Bag Bomb like me. ___ tedd sperling t...@sperling.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Age: Aftershave (but I've began using it only a year ago xD) Mousepad: No, but if I had to use a mouse, I prefer a mousepad I currently use only my MBP's trackpad, and it is so customizable I ended up buying a magic trackpad for my Mac at work as well. But, back in the days of Windows I was using a mousepad, mainly because it just looks better than having nothing at all. Greetings. Met vriendelijke groet, Camilo Sperberg W: http://unreal4u.com T: http://twitter.com/unreal4u -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Friday's Question
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Jen Rasmussen j...@cetaceasound.com wrote: LOL. What in the heck is a Bag Bomb? He's referring to Bag Balm. http://www.bagbalm.com/ -- /Daniel P. Brown Network Infrastructure Manager http://www.php.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Friday's Question
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Jen Rasmussen j...@cetaceasound.com wrote: -Original Message- What in the heck is a Bag Bomb? It's a salve for cow udders. Not sure what a person would do with it. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Friday's Question
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Joshua Kehn josh.k...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 20, 2013, at 1:23 PM, Larry Martell la...@software-horizons.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Joshua Kehn josh.k...@gmail.com wrote: I'm in my 20's and rarely, if ever, use a dedicated mouse. I've transitioned to having all my workstations be laptops of one sort or another and they have built-in trackpads. Of course I also rarely use the mouse when there are so many keyboard shortcuts available. When I'm on my MacBook (which is most of the time) I use the trackpad. But in the unfortunate times I have to be on a Windows box I always connect a mouse. Slightly snobbish solution: Don't use windows. Unfortunately required to VPN into most of my clients corporate networks. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Friday's Question
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 12:51:49PM -0400, Tedd Sperling wrote: Hi gang: Do you use a Mousepad? College Student (Electrical Engineer, go figure). Age: 20 Mousepad: yes I've used both optical and laser mice (they're a bit different, but similar tech) and I've found that I like having the pad because it sets the DPI of the mouse consistently. My favorite mousepad is this cheap as hell thin rubber and cloth one that I got from dealextreme.com many years ago. Go figure... --Sean -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Friday's Question
On Sep 20, 2013, at 1:23 PM, Larry Martell la...@software-horizons.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Joshua Kehn josh.k...@gmail.com wrote: I'm in my 20's and rarely, if ever, use a dedicated mouse. I've transitioned to having all my workstations be laptops of one sort or another and they have built-in trackpads. Of course I also rarely use the mouse when there are so many keyboard shortcuts available. When I'm on my MacBook (which is most of the time) I use the trackpad. But in the unfortunate times I have to be on a Windows box I always connect a mouse. Slightly snobbish solution: Don't use windows. --jk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Friday's Question
On Sep 20, 2013, at 1:25 PM, Larry Martell la...@software-horizons.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Jen Rasmussen j...@cetaceasound.com wrote: -Original Message- What in the heck is a Bag Bomb? It's a salve for cow udders. Not sure what a person would do with it. Feet. Wait until you have callus as feet. tedd ___ tedd sperling t...@sperling.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: php-general Digest 20 Sep 2013 17:33:26 -0000 Issue 8369
On Sep 20, 2013, at 1:33 PM, php-general-digest-h...@lists.php.net wrote: Friday's Question 322111 by: Tedd Sperling -- From: Tedd Sperling t...@sperling.com Subject: Friday's Question Date: September 20, 2013 12:51:49 PM EDT To: php-general@lists.php.net Hi gang: Do you use a Mousepad? My reason for asking is that I've used a Mousepad ever since mice first came out (back when they had one ball). Now that mice are optical (no balls), Mousepads are not really needed -- or so I'll told by the college -- you see, they don't provide Mousepads for their student's computers. As such, I wondered what's the percentage of programmers still using a Mousepad? Secondly, are Mousepads used primarily by older programmers (like me) while younger programmers don't use Mousepads, or what? So -- please respond with: Age: * Mousepad: Yes/No Thank you, tedd PS: * If you don't want to provide your actual age, then indicate your age by stating young, middle-age, old-age, ancient, or whatever term describes your age. Alternate -- I claim that you can tell a man's age by ten-times the number of personal products he routinely uses, for example: Years Old - Personal Products 10Toothpaste 20Toothpaste, Deodorant 30Toothpaste, Deodorant, Aftershave 40Toothpaste, Deodorant, Aftershave, Minoxidil 50Toothpaste, Deodorant, Aftershave, Minoxidil, Preparation-H 60Toothpaste, Deodorant, Aftershave, Minoxidil, Preparation-H, Bag Bomb 70Toothpaste, Deodorant, Aftershave, Minoxidil, Preparation-H, Bag Bomb, Fixodent So, you could indicate age by stating Bag Bomb like me. ___ tedd sperling t...@sperling.com Age: 72 years, 7 days toothpaste, deodorant, aftershave. Don't need the rest, yet. Mousepad: Yes. I find it easier to clean the mousepad than to try to clean the keyboard tray/desktop/whatever. -= Bill =- -- A day without sunshine is like a day in Seattle.
Re: [PHP] Friday's Question
On 9/20/2013 1:24 PM, Joshua Kehn wrote: On Sep 20, 2013, at 1:23 PM, Larry Martell la...@software-horizons.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Joshua Kehn josh.k...@gmail.com wrote: I'm in my 20's and rarely, if ever, use a dedicated mouse. I've transitioned to having all my workstations be laptops of one sort or another and they have built-in trackpads. Of course I also rarely use the mouse when there are so many keyboard shortcuts available. When I'm on my MacBook (which is most of the time) I use the trackpad. But in the unfortunate times I have to be on a Windows box I always connect a mouse. Slightly snobbish solution: Don't use windows. I'm agnostic when it comes to operating systems. I use Windows, Linux and Mac. I always go for a mouse. If the surface is really shiny, you'll need something under the mouse. In the case of a shiny surface, I've even used a piece of paper under the mouse in a pinch. I tend to use a mousepad in those cases, though. I'm not using one at home, but I do use one at work. It's a matter of taste. --jk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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40, and no mouse pad atm. Seems that this table top is okay. This is an optical mouse without a ball underneath. However this mac-y-mouse DOES have a ball on top, for scrolling. Go figure. Mattias -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Thanks, Bastien On Sep 20, 2013, at 12:51 PM, Tedd Sperling t...@sperling.com wrote: Hi gang: Do you use a Mousepad? My reason for asking is that I've used a Mousepad ever since mice first came out (back when they had one ball). Now that mice are optical (no balls), Mousepads are not really needed -- or so I'll told by the college -- you see, they don't provide Mousepads for their student's computers. As such, I wondered what's the percentage of programmers still using a Mousepad? Secondly, are Mousepads used primarily by older programmers (like me) while younger programmers don't use Mousepads, or what? So -- please respond with: Age: * Mousepad: Yes/No Thank you, tedd PS: * If you don't want to provide your actual age, then indicate your age by stating young, middle-age, old-age, ancient, or whatever term describes your age. Alternate -- I claim that you can tell a man's age by ten-times the number of personal products he routinely uses, for example: Years Old- Personal Products 10Toothpaste 20Toothpaste, Deodorant 30Toothpaste, Deodorant, Aftershave 40Toothpaste, Deodorant, Aftershave, Minoxidil 50Toothpaste, Deodorant, Aftershave, Minoxidil, Preparation-H 60Toothpaste, Deodorant, Aftershave, Minoxidil, Preparation-H, Bag Bomb 70Toothpaste, Deodorant, Aftershave, Minoxidil, Preparation-H, Bag Bomb, Fixodent So, you could indicate age by stating Bag Bomb like me. ___ tedd Every time I see something about mice, i always remember this article from IBM on how to care for your mouse. Best technical doc ever! http://www.snopes.com/humor/business/mouse.asp But in any case, 43 Use a mouse: yes mousepad occasionally depending on table surface -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On 20 Sep 2013 at 17:51, Tedd Sperling t...@sperling.com wrote: Age: Fast approaching doddering old fossil stage Mousepad: Yes. I use an Apple Mighty Mouse so that I can scroll my Excel spreadsheet in two directions at once while moving the mouse pointer across the screen. The optics works slightly better on the pad (covered in butterfly pix) than it would on the pine desktop. -- Cheers -- Tim -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On 20 Sep 2013 at 18:20, Jen Rasmussen j...@cetaceasound.com wrote: -Original Message- From: Tedd Sperling [mailto:t...@sperling.com] 70Toothpaste, Deodorant, Aftershave, Minoxidil, Preparation-H, Bag Bomb, Fixodent LOL. What in the heck is a Bag Bomb? I have no idea what most of these items are except the toothpaste. -- Cheers -- Tim -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On 21/09/2013, at 4:51, Tedd Sperling t...@sperling.com wrote: Hi gang: Do you use a Mousepad? My reason for asking is that I've used a Mousepad ever since mice first came out (back when they had one ball). Now that mice are optical (no balls), Mousepads are not really needed -- or so I'll told by the college -- you see, they don't provide Mousepads for their student's computers. As such, I wondered what's the percentage of programmers still using a Mousepad? Secondly, are Mousepads used primarily by older programmers (like me) while younger programmers don't use Mousepads, or what? So -- please respond with: Age: * Mousepad: Yes/No Thank you, 22 and I entirely use trackpads (inbuilt or bluetooth Magic Trackpad). --- Simon Welsh Admin of http://simon.geek.nz/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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25 network admin and programmer and yes I use a mouse pad - my mouse hates me if I dont use it. -- Regards, Daniel Fenn -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
