Re: [PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:07:28 -0400 Marco Tabini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everyone-- I wanted to let you know about a new initiative that php|architect has launched: the Searchable PHP Mailing List Archive, which can be found at http://phparch.com/mailinglists. This is a fully searchable archive of the PHP mailing lists with an attempt to build proper threading, keyword highlight, automatic quoted text indentation and a few other features. It's still a bit experimental, and some features don't work as best as they could. However, it should be fairly functional, and the full-text search engine can be helpful if you're looking for fast answers to problems that are often asked on the mailing lists. It's there for everyone to try, and please feel free to drop me a note if you think something doesn't quite work the way it should or if you have ideas about possible enhancement. At the present time, one of the things we're working on is filtering the messages trough SpamAssassin and allowing for the possibility to exclude messages marked as spam from the search results. We built our archive because we found it difficult to find a good search resource dedicated only to the PHP mailing lists. I hope it will help you, as well. Cheers, Marco Tabini php|architect Nice work, if the list admin would add a link to this archive in the footer (or the header) it would be even useful for new subscribers who don't know of its existence. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:42:25 -0400 Marco Tabini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice work, if the list admin would add a link to this archive in the footer (or the header) it would be even useful for new subscribers who don't know of its existence. Well, one of my original ideas was to have a process that would monitor php.general for new messages and send back an e-mail to the list with possible answers based on the message's contents. I'm not sure that would be a good idea, though :-) I think the idea is splendid (and new, call it DFAQ (dynamic FAQ)) but as a different service than a mailing list. Challenging? Cheers, Marco Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:48:18 -0400 Marco Tabini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the idea is splendid (and new, call it DFAQ (dynamic FAQ)) but as a different service than a mailing list. Challenging? What did you have in mind exactly? How is the FAQ served? Considering the enourmos amount of RTFM-like answers (which BTW should be filtered out from searches)I came to believe that most issues have already been explored but lots of questions from new users are more vague or extended for a simple search engine, so something like what you proposed sounds like it would satisfy that need except that users would have to subscribe to such a service as opposed to having dynamically generated answers based on the archive replied automatically to posts which could be confuzing. As to the protocol it could be either email or http or both. Not exactly a FAQ but a more extended search engine. Marco Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:52:53 +0900 - Edwin - [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On 2003.10.21, at 23:42 Asia/Tokyo, Marco Tabini wrote: Nice work, if the list admin would add a link to this archive in the footer (or the header) it would be even useful for new subscribers who don't know of its existence. Well, one of my original ideas was to have a process that would monitor php.general for new messages and send back an e-mail to the list with possible answers based on the message's contents. I'm not sure that would be a good idea, though :-) Sort of a PHP-AI eh? :) Hmm... I don't think that's a bad idea at all, but... I wonder how you'd deal with new messages/posts/questions which: 1. Real people don't even understand, and 2. Real posters don't even understand what they're asking. I think that's exactly where it's needed. At least some posters would get a chance to figure out their questions and others to have their annoyed ones justified ;-). ;) - E - PS Nice work, btw! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! BB is Broadband by Yahoo! http://bb.yahoo.co.jp/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Andu -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] (ANNOUNCE) New PHP mailing list *searchable* archives
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:16:27 -0700 (PDT) Chris Shiflett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps Marco can try an Ask Jeeves type of Web app. Is that the sort of thing you are suggesting? So, as another feature of this mailing list archive, there could be a place where people can ask a question, and Ask Marco will try to come up with some suggested posts to read. This would give people even fewer excuses to not check the archives. :-) They would do it without knowing it. Remember, asking a question is an art in itself and not everyone is an artist ;-). Chris = My Blog http://shiflett.org/ HTTP Developer's Handbook http://httphandbook.org/ RAMP Training Courses http://www.nyphp.org/ramp -- Andu -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] -OT- Software Fashion
I'm sure many of you read this on /. but in case you didn't here it is: http://www.softwarereality.com/soapbox/softwarefashion.jsp Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] attach file with mail() function??
On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 04:26:55 + Curt Zirzow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That being said, I think i'll have this thread grow way off topic, and self promote my site. Now we can visually see how often somone helps people with the list: http://zirzow.dyndns.org/html/mlists/php_general/search?q=gremlin vs. http://zirzow.dyndns.org/html/mlists/php_general/search?q=mike%40array-media Now I really have to write that flame awarness patch :) Posts: 4 Flames: 3 I was going to suggest, since you are into list statistics, to count how many of Mr Wang's replies consist of something more then a reference to the manual and similar (I counted over 50% in a day I had time to kill). It would be also interesting to keep track of how many hours some members spend with the list each day (and night). Talking about what people do with their time (and life). Just curious... Curt -- I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not so sure. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] attach file with mail() function??
On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 13:07:36 +0800 Jason Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 06 October 2003 12:42, andu wrote: I was going to suggest, since you are into list statistics, to count how many of Mr Wang's replies consist of something more then a reference to the manual and similar (I counted over 50% in a day I had time to kill). If you are referring to me, the name is Wong, thank you. Yes, sorry about the typo, you're welcome. Maybe you should read this: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-generalm=106497838012812w=2 -- Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.biz Open Source Software Systems Integrators * Web Design Hosting * Internet Intranet Applications Development * -- Search the list archives before you post http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general -- /* When a woman gives me a present I have always two surprises: first is the present, and afterward, having to pay for it. -- Donnay */ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Andu -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Cleaning up my messy code
On 29 Sep 2003 19:22:54 - Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am working on a fairly large scale (for myself anyway) project using PHP and MySQL. I am victim of teaching myself to program, not separating presentation from my code-- all the things that lead to masses of spaghetti code so atrocious even I can't figure out what I was doing an hour ago. I'm not looking for an IDE or code generator so much as some practical advice for organization and framework when developing a larger app. I know of PHP Fusebox, having programmed with Cold Fusion fusebox for a while, but it seems like that might be too much. Maybe I just need a sensical, practical approach to application layout. What do you all do? How can I learn to be a better PHP programmer in this regard? So far I haven't heard of any school teaching php or a particularly recommended methodology so we are all more or less in the same boat. I used the book by Luke Wellington and Laura Thomson which aside from being a well written book uses the same programming approach for all examples. That is: keep all html in one file and access it as functions, split php code in logical components (build dynamic content, database access, etc.). Not very different from when I was using cgis. I looked at Smarty but having to learn almost a new language turned me off. So far I tried to stay away from OO which IMHO can add unnecessary complexity if used where functions would do just fine. If I were to advice someone on the most important thing to look for when choosing a method of programming that would be: don't trust anybody, don't use something just because a lot of people use it. Evaluate and judge for yourself. c -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Cleaning up my messy code
On 29 Sep 2003 21:08:40 -0400 Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like that idea too-- I just don't like having to learn what amounts to a third language to do it. Does one have to have a templating engine in order to achieve this? I find reusability to be, largely, a theoretical mantra, templates or not. In general, between applications, so much changes that even the same basic idea means that the most reusable part are SQL queries and such, and I already keep THOSE separate. And I've been looking for good examples of code on the web-- examples that exemplify forethought and reusability. I must be looking in the wrong places :) Well an example I'm experiencing right now with my template system which is making my life so much easier and saving me oodles of time -- is creating a PDF version of my site. To do this doing a few things: 1. creating a new site configuration (actually a copy of the InterJinn site configuration with a few changes) 2. Creating a new set of template patterns for this configuration (2 to be exact) 3. Creating one new layout template for the PDF version. 4. Creating one master source file which provides a chapter mechanism for the InterJinn site's sections. 5. extending the original jinnDoc tag compiler to provide support for a jinnDoc:chapter/ and jinnDoc:subChapter/ tag and to reduce the h?/ tag ranks for the current jinnDoc:title/, jinnDoc:subTitle/, etc. tags. 6. Compiling the new site patterns. 7. running htmldoc on the output. So in 7 fairly easy steps (once you know the framework) That's the key, what better way then rolling your own. I think frameworks develop on their own with experience. That's not to say that looking at other people's solutions isn't part of the experience. I've converted my InterJinn site into an easily downloadable PDF for offline reading. Total time invested: 3 hours. later I'll add support for jinnDoc:pdfOnly/ and jinnDoc:webOnly/ tags to properly separate out content that makes no sense in the website or vice versa. The nice thing about this was I hadn't even planned on doing a PDF till someone requested it via a comment on the website. I'll probably release interJinn-0.9.2 next weekend, so you can see the code then if you want since I include the InterJinn site as it's own example :) As is you can see the non PDF stuff if you download the current version. Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Fw: Am stuck
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 15:17:26 +0200
Chris Grigor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry maybe I should elaborate
?php
$name = Chris;
$b = '5'; /* this is the value count of $name; */
for ($a=$b; $a=40; $a++)
{
add a space to the end of $name; /* this then makes $name 40 charecters long
(but what function do I use to add on spaces?? */
}
?
Good day all
I have a txt file that has values from various strings written to it.
What Im looking for is the following
$name = Chris';
I need to do a count on $name so that it returns 5 letters. Then before writing
it to the output file I know that it has to be 40 charecters long before it gets
written.
So I know its 5 now I need automatically add another 35 empty spaces to it to
make it 40 so that it makes the $name like this
$name = Chris; if I do a count
on this it should be 40 charecters long
Can anyone help out here???
Look up str_pad().
Chris
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Re: [PHP] PHP Editor - which to use?
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:34:33 -0400 Kevin Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI- New to this list but have been a php coder for 2 years. I know a lot of you out there are going to groan inwardly, but I use Dreamweaver, mainly because that's what I used since it's inception when I was writing static sites. I use OSX for my writing platform and occasionally use BBedit as well. If someone could point out a better PHP editor for the Mac, please speak up:) BTW- Dreamweaver has pretty decent PHP highlighting. I use Nedit on both Mac and Linux. Syntax hiliting and most features can be customised since they are based on macros. On OS X it needs XFree86. There is also the more limited SubEthaEdit (native), new but promising. Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] processing post requests
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 08:00:56 -0700 Vadim Bendebury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andu, thank you and James Johnson, who sent me an email, so much. Don't mention it. You guys are gentlmen and scholars, as opposed to some others who would lecture you wasting your (and their own!) time, stating the obvious, saying nothing of value, but enjoying their litte egos. Don't expect things to change soon though. thanks again, /vb Andu wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 17:28:45 -0700 Vadim Bendebury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The web page has a form with a following element in it: select multiple size=4 name=city option selected value=0no preference/option option value=2Paris/option option value=1London/option option value=3Madrid/option /select select multiple size=4 name=city[] option selected value=0no preference/option option value=2Paris/option option value=1London/option option value=3Madrid/option /select The intention is to be able to pick multiple cities. However, when the request arrives on the server, the $_POST array includes just the one last pick, no matter how many options are highligted when the submit button is hit. What's the deal - is the an HTML code problem or PHP problem? Is it at all possible to have multiple choices derived from this kind of form element? Thanks in advance! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] non-php issue
On Monday, September 22, 2003, at 12:34 AM, Raditha Dissanayake wrote: You can fix all of your problems by formatting your computer and installing a linux distribution. I'm getting all these security patches in my email from Microsoft Corporation lately, maybe you want to use them since I run linux and have no use for them :). Wang Feng wrote: hi everyone, could someone recommend a security mailing list, please? or you may like to answer my question below: i'm currently using outlook express 6 on WinXP Pro, and something strange happened: everytime when i start the computer, some messages pop up and attempts to sending the replies of the emails (in the inbox) in behalf of me. my anti-virus software doesn't work at all. what's the problem. how can i fix it? please help cheers, feng -- http://www.radinks.com/upload Drag and Drop File Uploader. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Trying to View php.ini
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 18:19:25 -0400 Stephen Tiano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm on a Mac PowerBook. I'm able to locate the php.ini file. But when I open it with BBEdit, it's a blank page. I just want to open it and either view it, or make a copy to view. But all I have is the blank. Any suggestions? Put a file phpinfo.php with ?php phpinfo(); ? in your server's root and call it with the browser, it will tell you where the php.ini is, don't think it can be empty. Thank you. Steve Tiano -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] processing post requests
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 17:28:45 -0700 Vadim Bendebury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The web page has a form with a following element in it: select multiple size=4 name=city option selected value=0no preference/option option value=2Paris/option option value=1London/option option value=3Madrid/option /select select multiple size=4 name=city[] option selected value=0no preference/option option value=2Paris/option option value=1London/option option value=3Madrid/option /select The intention is to be able to pick multiple cities. However, when the request arrives on the server, the $_POST array includes just the one last pick, no matter how many options are highligted when the submit button is hit. What's the deal - is the an HTML code problem or PHP problem? Is it at all possible to have multiple choices derived from this kind of form element? Thanks in advance! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] fopen() || Execute read file as php page; not plain text
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 17:05:47 -0700
CF High [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hm..
Looks like I was deluding myself. The only data returned by setting a var =
include $include_path, is 0 or 1. I'm looking for a few hundred lines of
evaluated text. Back to the drawing board. Christ, this is a pain in
the.
Why do you need to set the $var, why not just include $include_path when/where
you need it in your script.
--Noah
Jay Blanchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[snip]
was able to use an absolute reference on my local machine to execute
read
file contents; e.g. fopen('http://www.mysite.com/index.php', 'a'), but
on
the host webserver no such luck. Administrator said I can only use
relative
paths. Problem is, when I use a relative path, I just get plain text;
i.e.
the read file doesn't get executed as php.
eval()'s not an option either, as the read file(s) has apostrophes,
quotes
top-to-bottom.
Basically, I just need the file-to-be-read to have the queries within it
run
as if it were run in the web browser.
All clues appreciated as I'm at my wits end here -- can't find didly on
this
subject on the net.
[/snip]
Is the file PHP code? If so, why not include()?
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Re: [PHP] fopen() || Execute read file as php page; not plain text
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 18:20:01 -0700
CF High [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Because I need to write $include_path content to file; not display it in the
browser...
So you want to read from a file and write back to it? I don't understand what
you're trying to accomplish, execute a script and write the result to file?
--Noah
Andu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 17:05:47 -0700
CF High [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hm..
Looks like I was deluding myself. The only data returned by setting a
var =
include $include_path, is 0 or 1. I'm looking for a few hundred lines
of
evaluated text. Back to the drawing board. Christ, this is a pain in
the.
Why do you need to set the $var, why not just include $include_path
when/where
you need it in your script.
--Noah
Jay Blanchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[snip]
was able to use an absolute reference on my local machine to execute
read
file contents; e.g. fopen('http://www.mysite.com/index.php', 'a'), but
on
the host webserver no such luck. Administrator said I can only use
relative
paths. Problem is, when I use a relative path, I just get plain text;
i.e.
the read file doesn't get executed as php.
eval()'s not an option either, as the read file(s) has apostrophes,
quotes
top-to-bottom.
Basically, I just need the file-to-be-read to have the queries within it
run
as if it were run in the web browser.
All clues appreciated as I'm at my wits end here -- can't find didly on
this
subject on the net.
[/snip]
Is the file PHP code? If so, why not include()?
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Re: [PHP] Reading URL is changed
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 19:10:46 -0500 Dan J. Rychlik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to figure out the best way to accomplish this task. I have one file that performs a certain amount of functions based on a user link choice. All the links point to the same document. I know I need a control structure that reads what link was read but Im not sure how to do this. for ex. a href = this.phpFirst Link/a a href= this.phpSecond Link/a Im cant figure out how to read First Link in php so that I can execute the needed function. Has anyone accomplished this? Thanks so much in advance, -Dan a href = this.php?action=first_linkFirst Link/a a href= this.php?action=second_linkSecond Link/a ... and then switch $_GET['action']. Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] fopen() || Execute read file as php page; not plain text
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 21:29:50 -0700
CF High [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Re: So you want to read from a file and write back to it? I don't
understand what you're trying to accomplish, execute a script and write the
result to file?
Yes, the read file is a nested set of queries that populates a js pop up
menu, the site navigational structure. That's why I need the read file to
be executed.
So what was wrong with include $include_path? The fact that you include it doesn't
mean you have to display it, just that you have access to its script. You can call
a function from the file and use the result for whatever purpose you may chose
without displaying a thing.
Got help from a PHP guru -- he suggested shell access
--Noah
Andu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 18:20:01 -0700
CF High [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Because I need to write $include_path content to file; not display it in
the
browser...
So you want to read from a file and write back to it? I don't understand
what
you're trying to accomplish, execute a script and write the result to
file?
--Noah
Andu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 17:05:47 -0700
CF High [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hm..
Looks like I was deluding myself. The only data returned by setting
a
var =
include $include_path, is 0 or 1. I'm looking for a few hundred
lines
of
evaluated text. Back to the drawing board. Christ, this is a pain
in
the.
Why do you need to set the $var, why not just include $include_path
when/where
you need it in your script.
--Noah
Jay Blanchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in
message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[snip]
was able to use an absolute reference on my local machine to execute
read
file contents; e.g. fopen('http://www.mysite.com/index.php', 'a'),
but
on
the host webserver no such luck. Administrator said I can only use
relative
paths. Problem is, when I use a relative path, I just get plain
text;
i.e.
the read file doesn't get executed as php.
eval()'s not an option either, as the read file(s) has apostrophes,
quotes
top-to-bottom.
Basically, I just need the file-to-be-read to have the queries
within it
run
as if it were run in the web browser.
All clues appreciated as I'm at my wits end here -- can't find didly
on
this
subject on the net.
[/snip]
Is the file PHP code? If so, why not include()?
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Re: [PHP] Re: PHP|Con insane pricing
On 16 Sep 2003 03:45:15 -0400 John Coggeshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These gatherings are most likely for people sponsored by their employers, don't imagine participants come out of it $500 smarter then they went in. If it makes you feel good to hang out for 5 minutes with the big guys then borrow money and go, if learning is your goal, a good book and mostly practice will get you there. Consider that many of these good books you speak of are written by people whom are speaking at the conference :) I know what you mean but if the guy doesn't have the $500 the written word can't be much worse then the spoken one, by the same author;-). John -- -~=~--~=~--~=~--~=~--~=~--~=~--~=~--~=~--~=~--~=~--~=~--~=~--~=~--~=~- John Coggeshall http://www.coggeshall.org/ john at coggeshall dot org The PHP Developer's Handbook The definitive PHP5 developer's guide http://www.php-handbook.com/ -~=~--~=~--~=~--~=~--~=~--~=~--~=~--~=~--~=~--~=~--~=~--~=~--~=~--~=~- -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Andu -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: PHP|Con insane pricing
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 18:22:05 -0700 Jeremy Brand, B.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to everyone for their responses, though I still have not found a way to get to the conference at a reasonable price (what I consider reasonable). If anyone has any comments other than justifying the price of the conference, like a friends of php list I can get on so I can attend it would be greatly appreciated. I feel like I would actually add value by being there, not only in supporting my friends who are doing speaking at the conference, but also in helping to evangelize php and help newbies with questions/fud/etc. These gatherings are most likely for people sponsored by their employers, don't imagine participants come out of it $500 smarter then they went in. If it makes you feel good to hang out for 5 minutes with the big guys then borrow money and go, if learning is your goal, a good book and mostly practice will get you there. I used to read about these RedHat certification 2-3 days sessions for around $2000, does anyone in his/hers right mind believe he/she can become a Linux system administrator in 3 days? Thanks. Jeremy Jeremy Brand, B.S. wrote: Does anyone know a way to attend the PHP|con west as an observer in Santa Clara, CA, US on Oct. 23rd without spending tons of ca$h? The pricing seems insane, and geared towards people with lots of spare money... I would love to hear specifically the Advanced track on Oct. 23 (Michael Radwin, Sterling, Thies, George Schlossnagle and JimW), but I'm not going to shell out $495 (the cheapest non-student rate) for it. Thanks, Jeremy -- Prediction is very difficult, especially of the future. Niels Bohr http://www.nirvani.net -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Andu -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] MySql temporary tables
I did this blog where I create a temporary table to store entries while editing them (spell checking, preview, etc). The problem I was having is that sometimes the temporary table is created sometimes not. For every transaction with MySql I used mysql_pconnect(). Since I changed to using mysql_connect and regular tables instead of temporary tables everything seems to work fine, has anyone experienced problems with temporary tables with MySql? Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] MySql temporary tables
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 22:31:08 -0500 Jackson Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 15 September 2003 10:26, andu wrote: I did this blog where I create a temporary table to store entries while editing them (spell checking, preview, etc). The problem I was having is that sometimes the temporary table is created sometimes not. For every transaction with MySql I used mysql_pconnect(). Since I changed to using mysql_connect and regular tables instead of temporary tables everything seems to work fine, has anyone experienced problems with temporary tables with MySql? Temporary tables are only accessible from the MySQL connection that created them. Using pconnect it was a crap shoot as to whether you would get the same connection on the next page load. Temporary tables should only be used (from within PHP) for the current page view. Thanks. -Jackson Regards, Andu Novac -- jackson miller cold feet creative 615.321.3300 / 800.595.4401 [EMAIL PROTECTED] cold feet presents Emma the world's easiest email marketing Learn more @ http://www.myemma.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php editor
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 08:54:06 -0800 Chris Hubbard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the BEST php editor out there is Microsoft's Visual Studio. You should've posted this before I got all invested with Nedit, Linux and the like... Here's some of the reasons I think Visual Studio is the BEST 1. None of that annoying syntax highlighting that you find in many other editors 2. Unlimited technical support (at only $245 per call) 3. At $1000 - $2500 per copy it's has substantially more features than other cheaper editors. 4. It uses far more memory, so it remembers more stuff. 5. I can seamlessly integrate .NET into my PHP code 6. I don't have to waste my time with integrated debuggers 7. It automatically generates obfuscated code 8. I don't have to worry about those annoying GPL or LGPL licenses 9. Runs great on SuSE 10. When it crashes I know I need to take my ergonomic break 11. When loading large projects I have plenty of time to make myself a cup of tea, or if I'm out of tea, to drive to the store to buy some tea, return, brew a cup, read slashdot, take a shower 12. The outstanding support of PHP at Microsoft. Read about Microsoft's support of PHP here: www.microsoft.com/php Read about Microsoft's integration of PHP and Visual Studio here: www.microsoft.com/vstudio/support/php -- Now if you're serious. Do us all a favor. Do a little research first. This question has been answered on so many sites/newsgroups. -alternatively- the best php editor out there is the one that you use. -- I do like my first answer the best. heh. -- If you made it this far, try this page: http://www.php-editors.com/result.php?showall=y Ironically Yours, Chris -Original Message- From: STONE Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 3:21 AM To: php mailing list Subject: [PHP] php editor What's the best php editor out there? Thanks in advance for nay replies! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Beta Testers Needed - Free software opportunity
On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 00:58:07 +0300 Bogdan Stancescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you could adjust your business model a bit, there are quite a few GPL projects offering a lot more than what you do, in a better groupware environment. For instance you could check out http://www.guydavis.ca/opt/ for a demo of a GPL project at least a few orders of magnitude above the one you propose. Just my 2c, obviously, Bogdan Experience proves that his business model has worked in the past as well as present (not that I support or practice it), just count the number of people still buying and using Windows (or OSX for that matter) when Linux has been around for all these years. And that is just for day to day basic desktop and development. Matt Palermo wrote: First, I would like to thank all of you who have helped me with my questions in the past. I am going to return the favor by giving you an opportunity to receive a free copy of the latest version of a calendar program, called TotalCalendar. SweetPHP.com will be giving out free copies of this software to the first 5 people who agree to help with the beta testing and half-price copies to anyone else who helps beta test. After the beta testing phase is complete, all beta testers will receive the full, final version at no additional cost. If you would like to know more about this software, please visit: http://sweetphp.com/ There, you will find all the information, as well as a running demo of the software. If you would like to sign up and become a beta testing, please contact us at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we will send you the necessary information needed. Thanks again to everyone who has helped me out. Matt Palermo [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sweetphp.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Beta Testers Needed - Free software opportunity
On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 16:48:24 -0700 (PDT) Chris Shiflett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- andu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Experience proves that his business model has worked in the past as well as present (not that I support or practice it), just count the number of people still buying and using Windows (or OSX for that matter) when Linux has been around for all these years. That's not quite the same. Windows didn't have to penetrate the market while Linux was around as a viable (better?) alternative. At the time, Windows was the best choice for a desktop OS for many people. Now that it has such a dominant market position, it no longer has to prove itself to remain on top. That job is left to Linux, Mac OS X, etc. In this case, the PHP application being advertised must penetrate an existing market, which means the competition is heavier. This is why the first responder was pointing out some of the that competition. It is and it isn't the same, people buy because they don't know better, which was my point. Chris = Become a better Web developer with the HTTP Developer's Handbook http://httphandbook.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Cpanel or Plesk
On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 23:58:39 +0530 Dasmeet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I guess many of you must have used both CPanel and Plesk. Can you tell me which one is better and what are the basic differences between them? Also can accounts hosted on WHM/CPanel moved to Plesk? Any information would be of great help. Thanks in advance! Dasmeet Didn't use Plesk but i found CPanel to be pretty good for what it's supposed to do. Has nothing to do with how accounts are set up though, that depends on the distro/administrator and CPanel is configured accordingly. -- -- Domainwala.com Domain Names from Rs. $7.99 at http://www.domainwala.com http://www.domainwala.com/headlines/index.php http://www.domainwala.com/links -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Andu -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Linux Issues
On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 22:41:29 -0500 Stephen Craton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the replies. I've tried both 8.1 and 9.1 versions of Mandrake Linux with no luck (I bought the 8.1 CDs a while back) I've also tried making a floppy disk but still no luck with 8.1. In 9.1, I can't get the autorun screen to make the floppy disk. Try another distro, I recommend Slackware or Debian. Another option is to get one of the distros which run from the cd with the option to copy it to hard drive like Knoppix, they have more advanced auto-configuration software. Thanks, Stephen Craton - Original Message - From: Dan Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Stephen Craton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: PHP List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] Linux Issues Oh also make sure you are using /9.1/ and NOT /9.2 RC1/! -Dan On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 22:51, Stephen Craton wrote: Hello, This isn't really a PHP issue but I have no where else to go to get help really. Hopefully someone here can still help me. I am running Windows XP and have decided to install Mandrake Linux on top of it just for the heck of it. So, Friday I downloaded the latest ISO files from an FTP server and today I put in the burnt CDs and it takes me to the boot screen for it. I push enter (as it says to enter the setup) and it takes me to a blank screen and just sits there, doing nothing except flashing the Caps Lock and Scroll Lock lights on my keyboard. I went to the online manual for Mandrake and it said to add the text noauto which I did for the boot sequence. Same error. Any ideas what's going on and how to fix it? Thanks, Stephen Craton -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] anyone using sqlite raise your hand
Are people on this list using the sqlite extension with php? I was unable to subscribe to pear-php or get an answer from its webmaster (or the developer of the extension) and would like some feedback on a problem I have. -- Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Session var read by form C++ CGI prog ?
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 15:48:46 -0700 (PDT) Chris Shiflett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- John Bryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was/am thinking I could use php to set 'session' variable(s) that would also be visible to an existing cpp prog currently invoked from a form. I missed most of this thread, since it appeared to be off-topic, but you might consider changing the action attribute of your form to point to a PHP script that can call your CGI as needed. It's worth trying anyway, and PHP should already have the right privileges to execute it. This PHP script could conveniently access the PHP session (which your CGI could do also, but with much more hassle) as well as all GET and POST data, and you could use it as a wrapper to your CGI. This would also make future transitions easier, if you forsee taking that path. Something I used in the past was a php script communicating with a long running application via sockets: the script would collect data, send it to the app for processing which would pass it back to the php script which fpassthru() back to the client. It was very fast too. Hope that helps. Chris = Become a better Web developer with the HTTP Developer's Handbook http://httphandbook.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Table format needs php correction
On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 10:23:49 -0700
Gloria L. McMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi!
This is a problem of the table formatting on a form in MySQL and PHP.
It may be in the HTML table code.
The problem is one that must be frequent. I have a mixture of one
character and long fill-in text items.
My table now looks awkward. Somebody gave me a complex table that puts
colors as backgrounds behind the headers. Could that be the problem?
-Gloria
The SQL has nothing to do with it (though make sure the query returns
what you expect), it's just how you format the table with the data you
have. My advice is to start it simple with no colors or stuff like that
and work on it until you get the proper table (html). Forget about using
other people's code in something like this and try to understand the
logic before you get to beautifying your output. I just spent the last
couple of days with tables formating, css, etc
Here is the URL to view PHP HTML table as it appears on screen:
http://DakotaCom.net/~glomc/forms/CAT.php
Here is the mysql create table structure file:
#
# Table structure for table 'CAT'
#
CREATE TABLE CAT (
id int(10) unsigned DEFAULT '0' NOT NULL auto_increment,
added datetime DEFAULT '-00-00 00:00:00' NOT NULL,
name varchar(50) NOT NULL,
course varchar(50) NOT NULL,
unit varchar(50) NOT NULL,
q1 text NOT NULL,
q2 text NOT NULL,
q3 text NOT NULL,
q4 text NOT NULL,
q5 varchar(10) NOT NULL,
q6 varchar(10) NOT NULL,
q7 varchar(10) NOT NULL,
PRIMARY KEY (id)
);
Here is the table HTML part of the PHP file:
print table\n;
while ($line = mysql_fetch_array($result, MYSQL_ASSOC)) {
print \ttr\n;
foreach ($line as $col_value) {
print \t\ttd$col_value/td\n;
}
print \t/tr\n;
}
print /table\n;
*/
while ($row = mysql_fetch_array($result, MYSQL_ASSOC)) {
printf(
div class=\colorfield\
table
trthDate/ththName/ththCourse/ththUnit/th\n
trtd%s/tdtd%s/tdtd%s/tdtd%s/td/tr\n
trth = colspan = 4 Q1 /th\n
trtd%s/td\n
trth = colspan = 4 Q2 /th\n
trtd%s/td\n
trth = colspan = 4 Q3 /th\n
trtd%s/td\n
trth = colspan = 4 Q4 /th\n
trtd%s/td\n
trthQ5/ththQ6/ththQ7/th\n
trtd%s/tdtd%s/tdtd%s/td\n
/table
/div\n,
$row['added'],
$row['name'],
$row['course'],
$row['unit'],
$row['q1'],
$row['q2'],
$row['q3'],
$row['q4'],
$row['q5'],
$row['q6'],
$row['q7']);
}
/* Free resultset */
mysql_free_result($result);
/* Close the database connection */
mysql_close($link);
?
/body
/html
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Re: [PHP] post v get
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 02:06:55 +0100
David Otton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 18:50:55 -0400, you wrote:
When you POST a form to the server the server replies with a new
page. if you click the Back button in the browser the server wants
to re-POST the form. Short of using GET is there a way to prevent
re-submitting the previous form?
One technique is to use a middle-man page that processes your POST
data and inserts it into the database or file or whatever. Then you
use header() to send the user to another page.
Here's a quick fragment to illustrate the technique. It requires a
file called list.txt to exist.
?
if (isset ($item)) {
$fp = fopen(list.txt, a);
fputs ($fp, trtd$item/td/tr\r\n);
header (Location: $PHP_SELF);
exit();
}
?
table border=1 cellspacing=2
?
readfile(list.txt);
?
/table
brbr
form method=post action=? echo ($PHP_SELF); ?
pAdd Item: input type=text name=item/p
pinput type=submit name=Add value=Add/p
/form
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[PHP] post v get
When you POST a form to the server the server replies with a new page. if you click the Back button in the browser the server wants to re-POST the form. Short of using GET is there a way to prevent re-submitting the previous form? -- Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] webserver for mac
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 13:50:27 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edward Peloke) wrote: Hello all, I am doing some php work for a local company who uses a mac. I was telling them that I use apache as my webserver and they want to know what they can use as their webserver. I know nothing about Macs and don't think you an run apache but I may be all wrong...what do mac owners use for a webserver? MacOS X runs Apache PHP MYSQL and probably anything else that you can run on Linux/BSD. Actually it comes with Apache as default server. Thanks, Eddie -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Andu -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] sqlite
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 13:09:55 +1000 Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am writing an admin for sqlite but have struck a problem with exporting data. I wish to simply get a dump of the current sql database. from the commandline this would be done with .dump however this causes an error when used with sqlite_query() Is there any other method to get a sqlite dump? I just installed the sqlite extension today myself and was looking for all those dot commands but I don't think they are supported by the extension unfortunately. My suggestion is to call sqlite with exec() in order to get the .dump. $command=sqlite db_name '.dump'; exec($command,$result); print_r( $result);// shows the dump array Kind regards kevin -- __ (_ \ _) ) | / / _ ) / _ | / ___) / _ ) | | ( (/ / ( ( | |( (___ ( (/ / |_| \) \_||_| \) \) Kevin Waterson Port Macquarie, Australia -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Andu -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] sqlite
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 14:44:19 +1000 Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This one time, at band camp, andu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $command=sqlite db_name '.dump'; exec($command,$result); print_r( $result);// shows the dump array As sqlite is bundled with php5, I guess command line type commands are not available because it is compiled in. Something like that, I use it as a separately compiled dynamic library with php4 though. Kevin -- __ (_ \ _) ) | / / _ ) / _ | / ___) / _ ) | | ( (/ / ( ( | |( (___ ( (/ / |_| \) \_||_| \) \) Kevin Waterson Port Macquarie, Australia -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Andu -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] loading extension in script
Ok, I learned I can load extensions in script using ld(), is there a way to load extensions from a different directory (i.e.$HOME) in a case where I don't have access to /php/extensions/? -- Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] OT-Re: worm on th list
Is this worm/virus windows specific? -- Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] This is getting ridiculous
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 20:18:54 + Curt Zirzow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eventually there will be 10 returned emails for each posts and that will mean that that there will be around 2000 needless emails being sent around, a day. This is complete nonsense and must be fixed. The issue seems to be that no one is in charge of this list in any way. I'm getting lots of random 'errors' from the server besides all the other garbage it was talked about. Since there is no way to fix all these maybe the solution is to start a new list (sqlite list runs fine on yahoo) have some volunteer admins and move all traffic there. Unless the majority is willing to put up with what we have now and what might come in the future. Curt -- I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not so sure. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] pop3 functions
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 12:49:43 +0600 raditha dissanayake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andu wrote: On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 15:40:31 -0500 Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those weird function names are taken straight from C. Blame the inventors of C. PHP is partly intended to be easy to learn for C programmers. I'm wondering how many php users are C programmers... Can only blame the php inventors for using a bad model. Just because you cannot understand something does not mean it's bad. Sounds like you're talking about yourself, I never said C was a 'bad' language, I was complaining about the functions names in php, if you care to read more carefully. My point was that when creating a language you have the freedom to shape the 'vocabulary' any way you want (more or less) and it is common sense to do it so that it's easily usable by a variety of users. Your mail arrived to this mailing list through several mail nodes writted purely in C. - Ken At 02:15 PM 8/16/2003 -0400, andu wrote: I take the opportunity to express my 2 major problems I found with php in the 2 months I've been using it. First is the naming of functions (whoever was the illiterate one whoinvented them) definitely not meant to be remembered or to representwhat they actually do. It's a shame to have to fill our minds withsuch garbage: strcasecmp, strchr, strcmp, strcoll, strcspn, stripos,stristr, strspn, strstr, to take just a few. A programming languagehas already its problems for not being natural, no need to make iteven more so. Second, it the array overkill. Nevertheless, I love it. -- Raditha Dissanayake - http://www.radinks.com/sftp/ Lean and mean Secure FTP applet with Graphical User Inteface. just 150 Kilo Bytes -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Andu -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] pop3 functions
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 07:14:19 -0500 Jay Blanchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Those weird function names are taken straight from C. Blame the inventors of C. PHP is partly intended to be easy to learn for C programmers. I'm wondering how many php users are C programmers... Can only blame the php inventors for using a bad model. [/snip] Hey andu, since you say this what do you think would make a better model? Or were you just being sarcastic? Hard to say since php is used all over the world but English would be fine with me. I'm very familiar with metatalk which is based on hypercard and the syntax and vocabulary are almost plain English with no performance penalties, that is, it's very fast. Take 'strstr()', could've easily been 'find_string()', 'strcmp()'- binary_compare, and so on so that if one doesn't remember or doesn't know a function knows what to look for. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Andu -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] pop3 functions
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 22:10:25 +0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nopes i read you correctly, yours was a complaint against c. Good thing you didn't take it as a complaint against you... andu wrote: On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 12:49:43 +0600 raditha dissanayake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andu wrote: On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 15:40:31 -0500 Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those weird function names are taken straight from C. Blame the inventors of C. PHP is partly intended to be easy to learn for C programmers. I'm wondering how many php users are C programmers... Can only blame the php inventors for using a bad model. Just because you cannot understand something does not mean it's bad. Sounds like you're talking about yourself, I never said C was a 'bad' language, I was complaining about the functions names in php, if you care to read more carefully. My point was that when creating a language you have the freedom to shape the 'vocabulary' any way you want (more or less) and it is common sense to do it so that it's easily usable by a variety of users. Your mail arrived to this mailing list through several mail nodes writted purely in C. - Ken At 02:15 PM 8/16/2003 -0400, andu wrote: I take the opportunity to express my 2 major problems I found withphp in the 2 months I've been using it. First is the naming of functions (whoever was the illiterate one whoinvented them) definitely not meant to be remembered or to representwhat they actually do. It's a shame to have to fill our minds withsuch garbage: strcasecmp, strchr, strcmp, strcoll, strcspn, stripos,stristr, strspn, strstr, to take just a few. A programming languagehas already its problems for not being natural,no need to make iteven more so. Second, it the array overkill. Nevertheless, I love it. -- Raditha Dissanayake - http://www.radinks.com/sftp/ Lean and mean Secure FTP applet with Graphical User Inteface. just 150 Kilo Bytes -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Raditha Dissanayake - http://www.radinks.com/sftp/ Lean and mean Secure FTP applet with Graphical User Inteface. just 150 Kilo Bytes -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Andu -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] pop3 functions
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 11:18:29 -0500 Jay Blanchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] First is the naming of functions (whoever was the illiterate one who invented them). [/snip] I remeber when andu got upset about RTFM, STFW, STFA...calling it insulting. Truth is andu complains a lot. I wonder about andu's age...well not really. Nothing to do with age, I never took things for granted like I'm getting 2 identical messages instead of one (forgot to mention that, Jay!). Have a productive and pleasant day! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Andu -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] in the middle of shift and pop
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 00:25:32 +0200
Decapode Azur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
is it possible to remove an element of an indexed array such as this
exemple
$A = array('a', 'b', 'c', 'd', 'e', 'f');
in a way that we can optain this result :
$A = array('a', 'b', 'd', 'e', 'f');
something like that perhaps ?
array_remove($A, 2);
If such a function does not exists, what would be the more efficient
way to do so a lot of time on very big arrays ?
unset(array[x]);
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Re: [PHP] pop3 functions
On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 15:40:31 -0500 Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those weird function names are taken straight from C. Blame the inventors of C. PHP is partly intended to be easy to learn for C programmers. I'm wondering how many php users are C programmers... Can only blame the php inventors for using a bad model. - Ken At 02:15 PM 8/16/2003 -0400, andu wrote: I take the opportunity to express my 2 major problems I found with php in the 2 months I've been using it. First is the naming of functions (whoever was the illiterate one who invented them) definitely not meant to be remembered or to represent what they actually do. It's a shame to have to fill our minds with such garbage: strcasecmp, strchr, strcmp, strcoll, strcspn, stripos, stristr, strspn, strstr, to take just a few. A programming language has already its problems for not being natural, no need to make it even more so. Second, it the array overkill. Nevertheless, I love it. -- Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] pop3 functions
Someone asked for the pop3 functions I put togather (lost your message), please contact me off list, It works fine with my server but no guaranties though there should be no problems. I take the opportunity to express my 2 major problems I found with php in the 2 months I've been using it. First is the naming of functions (whoever was the illiterate one who invented them) definitely not meant to be remembered or to represent what they actually do. It's a shame to have to fill our minds with such garbage: strcasecmp, strchr, strcmp, strcoll, strcspn, stripos, stristr, strspn, strstr, to take just a few. A programming language has already its problems for not being natural, no need to make it even more so. Second, it the array overkill. Nevertheless, I love it. -- Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Reading mail with PHP?
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 19:35:21 +0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, You are certainly on the right track wtih imap_*() Imap_* functions seem like the easy way out but I found them to be extremely slow for retrieving mail (specially headers and stuff). I also found similar complaints on the net. My solution was to write my own pop3 functions which prove much faster. I don't blame the functions per se but I believe they use the pop3 directive TOP which is painfully slow in returning data specially if done repetitively, retrieving all messages and and chopping out the needed header parts is many times faster. The same set of functions can be used for checking both POP3 and IMAP 4 accounts. With POP3 however you will either have to leave mail on server or store them in db or maildir. Else you lose the mail after you read it! PHP happens to be one of the most popular languages when it comes to creating web based mail systems. You will find a classic at http://www.squirrelmail.org/ which happens to be open source as well. all the best Marcus Edvardsson wrote: Hi! * I'd like to connect to a mail server * Confirm the senders email addresses * Download the attached file from a speciall email * Read the message body How can I do this? Someone who have tried this? I found some functions for IMAP built in PHP, do you recommend that I dig deeper in those or should I use PEARs classes like http://pear.php.net/packages.php?catpid=14catname=Mail Marcus - Sweden -- Raditha Dissanayake - http://www.radinks.com/sftp/ Lean and mean Secure FTP applet with Graphical User Inteface. just 150 Kilo Bytes -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Stop neurotic posting
--On Wednesday, August 06, 2003 00:39:13 -0400 John W. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andu wrote: This is a very busy list, over 100 message in a quiet day and most people are helpful and decent, don't mind reading and learning. Unfortunately there are some who mostly post stuff like 'read the manual' and other shit like that. Stuffing e-mailboxes with such garbage day after day doesn't do anybody any good even if the manual is not being read as much as it should be. Is it too difficult to not answer the post at all if you disagree with the content? Please search the archives... this argument has been made before. Not surprising, bad habits are hard to rid of. Hopefully if the interested parties are reminded once in a while it might stick. -- ---John Holmes... Amazon Wishlist: www.amazon.com/o/registry/3BEXC84AB3A5E/ PHP|Architect: A magazine for PHP Professionals www.phparch.com Andu -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] find string
On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 19:27:12 -0400
Carl Furst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Isn't there an in_array function you can use?
If (in_array($action, array(a1,a2,a3,a4)) {
// do something
}
else {
// do something else
}
Carl.
Thanks Carl, if there is no string function for the job I'll have to
use the array.
-Original Message-
From: andu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 7:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PHP] find string
Here's the problem I have:
I have $action which can be anyone of a1, a2, a3, a4.
I tried
if ($action!='a1' || $action!='a3') //tried == also
{
//do stuff
}
else
{
//do other stuff
}
Problem is that if() only seems to take one option so my construct
above doesn't work.
What function can I use to do something like:
if ($action is among the items of 'a2,a4') kind of construct?
I tried strpos('a1a2a3',$action) but with the same results.
TIA
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Re: [PHP] Stop neurotic posting
--On Wednesday, August 06, 2003 06:26:34 + Curt Zirzow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Thus wrote andu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): This is a very busy list, over 100 message in a quiet day and most people are helpful and decent, don't mind reading and learning. Unfortunately there are some who mostly post stuff like 'read the manual' and other shit like that. Stuffing e-mailboxes with such garbage day after day doesn't do anybody any good even if the manual is not being read as much as it should Yes it is a busy list, I have 1000+ messages for 7 days worth. I'm not sure the noisyness of the list is entirely on the ones that are helping. There does seem to be a problem of people posting questions that are plain as day in the manual, or have been repeatedly answered here on the list (thus the joke, has it been 4 days already, being so funny :) Agreed. if more people would read the manual or know how to find commonly asked and solved quetions this list would probaly drop in 20% (very rough estimate) of posts. Getting that information to the people who arn't reading the manual is a difficult task, cause if they arn't reading the manual, why would they even bother with reading the information on how to find the answer. Now noisyness from the 'helpers'... I have noticed at times that a question is answered the same way like 10 times by 10 different people; this I consider more noisy than a RTFM post. Agreed again. be. Is it too difficult to not answer the post at all if you disagree with the content? Now, I kinda wondered at first if I should not respond to this cause it's rather in a disagreement tone :) Nevermind the tone, you have a point. My post was about people who chronically answer with an attitude (half of their posts have to do with the manual). As far as I can tell you always take the time to help, I'm surprised you picked on this. People are sometimes lazy or simply they just don't know what to look for, to look up a function you must know the name of it, what's the big deal to reply with a function name as opposed to RTFM, you do it anyway. I'll tell you what the difference is, you are bored to death for hearing the same question for the millionth time and feel vindictive. You're shooting the messenger though. If you are at the point where you can't deal with newbies it's understandable (been there, done that), but it's not their fault. I think this shouldn't be considered a bad thing to do. If you find something you disagree with and have (legit) arguments, I would insist that the person reply to it. Of course this only helps if it was in a constructive manor, which I hope this reply was done. Cheers, Curt -- I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not so sure. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Andu -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] find string
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:00:57 +1000 (EST)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
what exactly is action ?
i usually use a action setup like follows
?action=update
switch ($_GET['action']) {
case 'update':
//do stuff here
break;
case 'insert':
//do stuff here
break;
}
very clean
Action is exactly what you imagine and at some point in the scrip I use
what you suggest, why I didn't do it here is because I didn't have
enough coffee today ;-). Nevertheless the previously suggested solution
using in_array() seems cleaner in this case.
Here's the problem I have:
I have $action which can be anyone of a1, a2, a3, a4.
I tried
if ($action!='a1' || $action!='a3') //tried == also
{
//do stuff
}
else
{
//do other stuff
}
Problem is that if() only seems to take one option so my construct
above doesn't work.
What function can I use to do something like:
if ($action is among the items of 'a2,a4') kind of construct?
I tried strpos('a1a2a3',$action) but with the same results.
TIA
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Re: [PHP] mail with no sendmail on linux
On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 13:49:41 +1000 (EST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have a class that can sewnd through smtp , but i think there i a package setup in php classes there is also a pear class to do this The Pear class did it, thanks. Is there a workaround for not having sendmail installed on my linux machine and using instead my isp's mail server. I am practically behind 2 firewalls so I don't even think i could use sendmail even if I wanted to which is not the case. -- Andu -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Andu -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Stop neurotic posting
--On Wednesday, August 06, 2003 14:38:11 +0800 Jason Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 06 August 2003 14:26, Curt Zirzow wrote: Now noisyness from the 'helpers'... I have noticed at times that a question is answered the same way like 10 times by 10 different people; this I consider more noisy than a RTFM post. And what I find really annoying is that some helpers being really 'helpful' copy and paste whole chunks from the manual. Read the subject again. -- Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.biz Open Source Software Systems Integrators * Web Design Hosting * Internet Intranet Applications Development * -- Search the list archives before you post http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general -- /* filibuster, n.: Throwing your wait around. */ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Andu -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Stop neurotic posting
--On Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:04:57 -0400 Step Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Amanda, Yeah, terminology is definitely tough to get a handle on at the start -- it was for me. I tried a couple of different books but had no luck until I picked up Larry Ullman's PHP Visual QuickStart Guide. Then it all kind of clicked into place. I highly recommend it -- it's like a big index. If you have a question about databases, just turn to the database chapter and chances are the answer will jump right out at you. And I believe the retail is only like $20. The two books I tried before that were $50 each. Talking about books, I highly recommend 'PHP and MySql Web Development' by Luke Welling and Laura Thomson second edition. Best thing about it is it has a number of 'useful' projects which are very well taken apart and explained. It comes with a cd containing scripts for each chapter/example in the book. Andu -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] imap slow
Why are imap(pop3) functions so slow? I am working on a webmail and it takes foreer to get 12 headers. I also looked at other php webmails and they are just as bad. I tested a pop3 function library I found on the net and it retrievs all 12 messages in no time. -- Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] find string
Here's the problem I have:
I have $action which can be anyone of a1, a2, a3, a4.
I tried
if ($action!='a1' || $action!='a3') //tried == also
{
//do stuff
}
else
{
//do other stuff
}
Problem is that if() only seems to take one option so my construct
above doesn't work.
What function can I use to do something like:
if ($action is among the items of 'a2,a4') kind of construct?
I tried strpos('a1a2a3',$action) but with the same results.
TIA
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Re: [PHP] Configuring PHP to use aspell
On Sat, 9 Aug 2003 10:29:58 -0400 Jeff Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have the following set up... RH Linux version 7.3 PHP 4.3.2 Aspell installed on the server I have NEVER configured PHP and am looking for some assistance in configuring PHP to use Aspell so I can take advantage of this great feature that (as I can see from my searches) is not as well documented. You are supposed to use pspell (see manual) and do: configure --with-pspell[=dir]. I'm not sure of the path to my Aspell either... Jeff -- Andu -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] mail with no sendmail on linux
Is there a workaround for not having sendmail installed on my linux machine and using instead my isp's mail server. I am practically behind 2 firewalls so I don't even think i could use sendmail even if I wanted to which is not the case. -- Andu -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: [ERR] DEAD MAILBOX
On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 02:52:31 -0400 John Manko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: arrg. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Transmit Report: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 402 Local User Inbox Full ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Comes free with the list...;-) -- Andu -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Stop neurotic posting
--On Wednesday, August 06, 2003 10:09:06 -0500 Jay Blanchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: neurotic \Neu*rotic\, a. [Gr. ? nerve.] 1. Of or pertaining to the nerves; seated in the nerves; nervous; as, a neurotic disease. 2. Uself in disorders of, or affecting, the nerves. I am being a smart-arse now, but I believe that dictionaries and Xanax are in order for some of you. Get over it! RTFM, STFW, and STFA are NOT PERSONAL ATTACKS! Those are reserved for off-list replies unless the flame is warranted on list. Here we go ... Neurotic as in having an inferiority complex and trying too hard to prove the contrary when given a chance. Andu -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Stop neurotic posting
This is a very busy list, over 100 message in a quiet day and most people are helpful and decent, don't mind reading and learning. Unfortunately there are some who mostly post stuff like 'read the manual' and other shit like that. Stuffing e-mailboxes with such garbage day after day doesn't do anybody any good even if the manual is not being read as much as it should be. Is it too difficult to not answer the post at all if you disagree with the content? Andu -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Stop neurotic posting
--On Wednesday, August 06, 2003 14:40:35 +0800 Jason Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 06 August 2003 14:35, John Manko wrote: perhaps there should be two lists (novice and advanced), and the advanced listed shouldn't answer questions if it's considered trivial enough for the novice list to answer. On many lists you get this kind of suggestion. Almost always the rebuttal is that the people who are in a position to help would then mostly congregate to the 'advanced' list leaving the helpless to fend for themselves on the 'beginners' list. In other words its usually a BAD idea. I guess a better idea is if you are on a list to help others to just do it not moralize them. Forgot how it is as a newbie, start learning a new language. -- Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.biz Open Source Software Systems Integrators * Web Design Hosting * Internet Intranet Applications Development * -- Search the list archives before you post http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general -- /* Do not seek death; death will find you. But seek the road which makes death a fulfillment. -- Dag Hammarskjold */ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Andu -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] checking the return value of member function with empty
On Sat, 09 Aug 2003 20:00:57 -0500
Edward Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am having this rather annoying syntax problem.
I have this..
if (!empty($this-GetParam('someparameter')) {
// OK do something since the parameter is set.
}
if (!empty($this-GetParam('someparameter'))) {
// OK do something since the parameter is set.
}
However that fails with this parse error
parse error, expecting `')''
Why???
If I do this
$var = $this-GetParam('someparameter'));
if (!empty($var)) {
// same thing as before
}
it works fine with no error..
This *SHOULD* be syntactically correct, but php doesn't think so.
Should I file a bug on this one?
Oh yeah, normal information about running environment.
PHP version 4.3.2
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Re: [PHP] Still can't pass variable through url
On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 14:30:22 +0800 Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all I had set the register_global=on and magic_quotes_runtime=off already, You don't need register_global=on for this, use $year = $_GET['year']; $month = $_GET['month']; ...and you want to try page.php?year=$yearmonth=$month. but when i click my hyperlink page.php?year=$year?month=$month, it doesn't pass the variable for ?year and ?month to the destination page page.php I'm using php 5.0 above , if the same case apply to php4.04, then there is no problem at all! Can anyone please give me more help on this? Thx alot Jack -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Andu -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Stop neurotic posting
--On Wednesday, August 06, 2003 13:11:52 -0700 Chris W. Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aside from the fact that $example1 != $example2, they are different in ATTITUDE. Which was the original issue of this thread. Seems like few (with a temporary advantage of knowledge) would consider not to have an attitude (don't like to answer, don't do it) and if there is a choice, the nasty one seems to prevail. I guess it's a reflection of the times/place we are living or a huge lack of imagination. My last word on this... Andu -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] headline news retriever
Does anyone know any headline news retrieving script/library specially something able to check with several news sites? I'm planing to roll my own but I want to see different approaches. Andu -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Using link to submit a form
--On Wednesday, July 30, 2003 14:32:11 -0500 Tyler Longren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, Can I replace Submit buttons on forms with a text button? I need to be able to click on a link: a href=index.php?option=editEdit/a Something like: a href=javascript: document.your_form_name.submit();Edit/a and have it submit the form. The form only contains one field...does anyone know how to do this? I've been searching google for an answer, but couldn't find any info that really applies to my question. This isn't exactly a PHP related question, but php is hugely involved in this project. Thanks! Tyler Longren -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Andu -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: classes v. functions
--On Sunday, July 20, 2003 07:53:20 +0200 Simon Fredriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been working like that for about two years and just recently I got enlighted in the use of classes. The main reason I started this thread is that since I'm just beginning with php I thought I might as well start with a good methodology. I've seen on the net whole collections of classes some going as far as almost inventing a new language but having some experience I know everything comes at a price. Classes seem to provide advantages to plain functions but only sometimes, striking the right balance I guess, is what I'm after. One shouldn't apply industrial theories to just everything. Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] list server problem
Is it just me getting some messages 3 times? I also noticed that there is no Reply-To in the headers so every time I want to reply to the list I have to copy/paste the list's address, clicking the Reply button would send my message to the poster, not the list. I guess others are having the same problem for which reason they reply to all or cc to the list, all of us ending up with a couple copies of the message. Is this something that can be fixed? Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] list server problem
--On Sunday, July 20, 2003 16:35:46 +0800 Jason Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 20 July 2003 14:42, Andu wrote: Is it just me getting some messages 3 times? I also noticed that there is no Reply-To in the headers so every time I want to reply to the list I have to copy/paste the list's address, clicking the Reply button would send my message to the poster, not the list. I guess others are having the same problem for which reason they reply to all or cc to the list, all of us ending up with a couple copies of the message. Is this something that can be fixed? There is nothing wrong with the headers that the list messages use. This was discussed fairly extensive about two weeks ago. Refer to archive for details. The executive summary is that there is nothing to be fixed. If you're using a less than adequate mail client which does not understand the mailing list info contained in the headers then you should either change clients or, even easier, just add the mailing list address into your address book. Nonsense, all clients understand reply-to if it's there and that is the obligation of the sender which in this case is the list server not my client. Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] list server problem
--On Monday, July 21, 2003 01:34:11 +0800 Jason Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 21 July 2003 00:39, Andu wrote: The executive summary is that there is nothing to be fixed. If you're using a less than adequate mail client which does not understand the mailing list info contained in the headers then you should either change clients or, even easier, just add the mailing list address into your address book. Nonsense, all clients understand reply-to if it's there and that is the obligation of the sender which in this case is the list server not my client. Please read the archives. There's several thousand emails in there, give me a subject or something. I already attempted to do that but the search only takes 2 words, it looks like and chances I use the relevant ones are low, just spent some time without any relevant success. The list is not the originator/sender of any particular message and hence should not be the subject of any reply or reply-to. Therefore it follows that it is not the list's responsibility to set a reply-to header pointing to itself. So what you're saying is that all the lists i've been on in the past 7-8 years were doing it wrong but this one doesn't. The list is not the originator of my message but an inteligent list server knows that the vast majority of the clients want to reply to the list not the originator of the message. It is the mail client's job (or the list subscriber to be more precise) to direct a reply to the appropriate place and not the list's responsibility to second-guess where a reply should be directed. So what do I do if I have one account only? Should I keep changing the Reply-To for each email I send so that replies to other unrelated mail don't end up on php list? The list should second-guess members of the list want to reply to the list 99% of the time without being wrong. -- Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.biz Open Source Software Systems Integrators * Web Design Hosting * Internet Intranet Applications Development * -- Search the list archives before you post http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general -- /* Delta: The kids will love our inflatable slides.-- David Letterman */ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] classes v. functions
Thanks to all for your input. Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] TESTERS Needed!
--On Saturday, July 19, 2003 20:02:52 +0100 Mark Clarkstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Guys I need People to test out My Program, Mini serve to find out more go to www.mini-networks.uni.cc The black text on dark-blue background is really inviting, did you try black on black?? Thanks -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] TESTERS Needed!
--On Saturday, July 19, 2003 15:23:31 -0400 Andu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --On Saturday, July 19, 2003 20:02:52 +0100 Mark Clarkstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Guys I need People to test out My Program, Mini serve to find out more go to www.mini-networks.uni.cc The black text on dark-blue background is really inviting, did you try black on black?? Never mind, for windows programs is good enough. Thanks -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] nedit - previw html/php in browser
For those using Nedit with php/html here's a macro which will open a browser window and previw your script (Linux): file = $file_path $file_name file = replace_in_string(file, /path_to_your_server_root/htdocs/, ) in_browser=mozilla -remote 'openURL(localhost/ file ,new-window)' /dev/null shell_command(in_browser ,) It implies you run Apache/php locally, obviously and you may need to adjust the server root path and/or mozilla location if not standard. Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] classes v. functions
This may show my ignorance or my refusal to take for granted something I don't fully understand but I have a hard time figuring out the advantage of using classes as opposed to just functions. I am certainly new to php and at first sight classes seemed to cut a lot of corners but so do functions (with which I have more experience). The more I read about classes the deeper the confusion. Anyone can enlighten me? Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] classes v. functions
--On Friday, July 18, 2003 14:28:02 -0700 Chris Shiflett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Andu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may show my ignorance or my refusal to take for granted something I don't fully understand but I have a hard time figuring out the advantage of using classes as opposed to just functions. They are entirely different. While OO fans will find my over-simplification disgusting, a class is basically a way to associate data with the functions that manipulate that data. Say I have a database class with all kinds of functions for connection, data manipulation, errors, etc: $db = new db_sql; $db-connect(); $db-do_this(); $db-do_that(); How would that be different from an include file with a bunch of functions doing the same thing? Is there any performance benefit one way or the other? I used EZ_Sql which is cool but didn't seem to speed things up in comparison to the said include file. Still don't see the beef. Brad recommended I spend even more time with google looking for OOP, maybe that's why I'm so confused:). Chris Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] just testing
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[PHP] OnClick problem
Here's something I cant explain: I have a page with a form on it (checkboxes) and a hyperlink which is supposed to send the form to the server using: a href=# onClick=document.del.submit(); Trouble is that the link always points to the name of the previous page I came from. All pages are php generated on-the-fly. Is this a php problem? Anyone has a clue? I really don't want to use a submit button in this case. Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] OnClick problem (fwd)
I may be wrong but to me the behavior is correct: calling a php script with echo $_SERVER['PHP_SELF']; should return the name of that script. -- Forwarded Message -- Date: Thursday, July 10, 2003 16:16:24 -0400 From: Dan Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: andu [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dan Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] OnClick problem = Hi, = = Wow, you've got me stumped, that shouldn't be printing the previous at = all. Could you forward tihs to the php list? I'm stumped. = = -Dan Joseph = = -Original Message- = From: andu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] = Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 3:58 PM = To: Dan Joseph = Subject: RE: [PHP] OnClick problem = = = = = --On Thursday, July 10, 2003 15:40:16 -0400 Dan Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] = wrote: = = Yeah, it would be: = = a href=? echo $_SERVER['PHP_SELF']; ? = = If that doesn't work, could you paste in a few lines of code? = = -Dan Joseph = = Thanks for helping me Dan. Here's the html created from bits and pieces = with php. The ? echo $_SERVER['PHP_SELF']; ? simply inserts the name = of previous page I came from, makes sense. = = html = head = titleEntries list/title = meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 = link rel=stylesheet href=style.css type=text/css = /head = div id=head style=position:absolute; left:12px; top:13px; = width:659px; = height:87px; z-index:1; overflow: hidden class=headaddress = book /div = div id=Layer1 style=position:absolute; left:245px; top:187px; = z-index:1; width: 278px; height: 197px; overflow: auto class=border = form name=del method=get action=del_entry2.php = table cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 border=0 = tr =td class=cel2 =input type=checkbox name=delete_me value=andu|novac = = /td = td class=cel2a = href=show_me.php?firstname=andulastname=novacandu novac/a/td = /trtr =td class=cel2 =input type=checkbox name=delete_me value=roberto|busto = /td = td class=cel2a = href=show_me.php?firstname=robertolastname=bustoroberto = busto/a/td /tr/table = /form = = /divdiv id=Layer1 style=position:absolute; left:10px; top:439px; = width:666px; height:25px; z-index:1 = table cellpadding=0 cellspacing=4 border=0 align=center = tr = td class=cel width=122a href=login.phplogin/a/td = td class=cel width=122a href=add_acc.phpnew = account/a/td = td class=cel width=122a href=add_addr.phpadd = address/a/td = td class=cel width=122 = = !--this is the problem part. When I click this link I want to send the = form above. Notice the target is the name of the page which = generated this = one-- = a href=show_list.php onClick=document.del.submit();delete = address/a/td = !--end problem part-- = = td class=cel width=122a href=show_list.phpshow = addresses/a/td = = td class=cel width=122a href=lost_pass.phplost = password/a/td = /tr = /table = /div = /body = /html = = Regards, Andu Novac = = = -- End Forwarded Message -- Regards, Andu Novac -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
