Re: [PHP] Re: php-cli vs python OT
On 6/10/07, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 23:33 +0100, Colin Guthrie wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 16:36 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote: Are you using Amarok on Windows, Linux, or other? I have Amarok 1.3.1 on KDE 3.4.2 on Mandriva 2006.0 Community on 2.6.12-12mdksmp on an i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.60GHz w/ 1GB RAM on a desk with a bunch of crap on it, and all it does is crash for me. I use Totem instead, occasionally using xine for audio, and usually for video (different subject). Just wondering how stable Amarok is for you. I'm running Amarok 1.4.3 (using KDE 3.5.5) on Ubuntu 6.10 (I'm actually a Gnome user). I used Mandrake up till 10.0, I'll never go back. My desktop is an Athlon 2400 with 2 gigs of memory (though consumption rarely goes past half gig unless I'm running several VMWare OSes at the same time). I started using it about 3 days ago, I've had a few crashes, but mostly when doing something major like re-scanning my collection (8000+). Had no trouble grabbing covers, creating playlists, editing 100s of tags within Amarok, etc. Only complaint really is that it's pig slow when switching to or sorting columns on large playlists (well the whole 8000 heheh). I'm a Mandriva dev and would have to say that if you've not used it for a while I think you'll be pleasently surprised these days. It's come a long, long way since 10.0! Also the older Amarok run by Daniel is faily unstable (I'm also a bit of a KDE dev when I get a mo'!) is fairly old and bug ridden. Whatever your distro, I'd upgrade your Amarok to the latest stable for the best experience. FWIW, if you add your sources correctly you can just urpmi your 2006.0 machine to 2007.1 relatively easily. I've done it on several machines now (a couple of them remotely!). FYI, after a few days of using Amarok I've found it to be extremely prone to hanging. To try and correct the problem I downloaded the latest stable source (1.4.5) and built it myself. Still hanging all over the place (simple selection of new mp3, re-arranging queued songs, etc). It also appears to keep NFS file handles open (possibly with locks) since my NFS hung a few times after it died and I had to force an unmount. Definitely not NFS itself, I've transferred 100s of gigs over months of uptime without a problem... only seen it hang on an Amarok hang (more than once now). Anyways, I'll keep giving it a go, I created a wrapper script when starting it up now that checks the process list and kills all related Amarok processes before relaunching... makes it a little more bearable). BTW, I know this isn't your issue or anything Colin, just passing along my experience for Dan :) Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' Are you using journaling? It may be something we have in common that's causing both of our problems. Really OT for the PHP list, but maybe we can whip up a replicated issue for a bug report nonetheless. -- Daniel P. Brown [office] (570-) 587-7080 Ext. 272 [mobile] (570-) 766-8107 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: php-cli vs python OT
On Sat, June 9, 2007 11:15 pm, Robert Cummings wrote: On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 23:33 +0100, Colin Guthrie wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 16:36 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote: Are you using Amarok on Windows, Linux, or other? I have Amarok 1.3.1 on KDE 3.4.2 on Mandriva 2006.0 Community on 2.6.12-12mdksmp on an i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.60GHz w/ 1GB RAM on a desk with a bunch of crap on it, and all it does is crash for me. I use Totem instead, occasionally using xine for audio, and usually for video (different subject). Just wondering how stable Amarok is for you. I'm running Amarok 1.4.3 (using KDE 3.5.5) on Ubuntu 6.10 (I'm actually a Gnome user). I used Mandrake up till 10.0, I'll never go back. My desktop is an Athlon 2400 with 2 gigs of memory (though consumption rarely goes past half gig unless I'm running several VMWare OSes at the same time). I started using it about 3 days ago, I've had a few crashes, but mostly when doing something major like re-scanning my collection (8000+). Had no trouble grabbing covers, creating playlists, editing 100s of tags within Amarok, etc. Only complaint really is that it's pig slow when switching to or sorting columns on large playlists (well the whole 8000 heheh). I'm a Mandriva dev and would have to say that if you've not used it for a while I think you'll be pleasently surprised these days. It's come a long, long way since 10.0! Also the older Amarok run by Daniel is faily unstable (I'm also a bit of a KDE dev when I get a mo'!) is fairly old and bug ridden. Whatever your distro, I'd upgrade your Amarok to the latest stable for the best experience. FWIW, if you add your sources correctly you can just urpmi your 2006.0 machine to 2007.1 relatively easily. I've done it on several machines now (a couple of them remotely!). FYI, after a few days of using Amarok I've found it to be extremely prone to hanging. To try and correct the problem I downloaded the latest stable source (1.4.5) and built it myself. Still hanging all over the place (simple selection of new mp3, re-arranging queued songs, etc). It also appears to keep NFS file handles open (possibly with locks) since my NFS hung a few times after it died and I had to force an unmount. Definitely not NFS itself, I've transferred 100s of gigs over months of uptime without a problem... only seen it hang on an Amarok hang (more than once now). Anyways, I'll keep giving it a go, I created a wrapper script when starting it up now that checks the process list and kills all related Amarok processes before relaunching... makes it a little more bearable). BTW, I know this isn't your issue or anything Colin, just passing along my experience for Dan :) FWIW: I've been using audacious for awhile now as a replacement for XMMS, and it seems to work okay for me. It does take FOREVER to time out when an MP3 link goes bad, though, and it's easier to kill it than to wait... -- Some people have a gift link here. Know what I want? I want you to buy a CD from some indie artist. http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch Yeah, I get a buck. So? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: php-cli vs python
Plus, PHP has a very tiny core, and I can't imagine how Python core is smaller... ./configure --disable-all for both would be interesting... On Thu, June 7, 2007 10:24 am, Daniel Brown wrote: On 6/7/07, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 10:46 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote: On 6/7/07, Man-wai Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Otherwise you have to start again from scratch in python code (creating more places for bugs to hide and making the whole thing more complicated). While they can access the same database, there's nothing else they can share. Micro$oft expressed interest in Python. But I don't know whether it's a trap or bait... :) Interesting reading: http://wiki.w4py.org/python-vs-php.html They forgot a PHP pro... speed! Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' They also don't touch on the extensibility, automation of expansion with PEAR and PECL, virtually unlimited and readily-available core modules and scripts, and the vast implementations the world over but who's really paying attention, anyway? ;-P -- Daniel P. Brown [office] (570-) 587-7080 Ext. 272 [mobile] (570-) 766-8107 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Some people have a gift link here. Know what I want? I want you to buy a CD from some indie artist. http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch Yeah, I get a buck. So? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: php-cli vs python
Richard Lynch dedi ki: I use PHP extensively for command line processing. Why not just try it and see if it works well for you? I will :) -- Abdullah Ramazanoglu aramazan ÄT myrealbox D0T cöm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: php-cli vs python OT
On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 23:33 +0100, Colin Guthrie wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 16:36 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote: Are you using Amarok on Windows, Linux, or other? I have Amarok 1.3.1 on KDE 3.4.2 on Mandriva 2006.0 Community on 2.6.12-12mdksmp on an i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.60GHz w/ 1GB RAM on a desk with a bunch of crap on it, and all it does is crash for me. I use Totem instead, occasionally using xine for audio, and usually for video (different subject). Just wondering how stable Amarok is for you. I'm running Amarok 1.4.3 (using KDE 3.5.5) on Ubuntu 6.10 (I'm actually a Gnome user). I used Mandrake up till 10.0, I'll never go back. My desktop is an Athlon 2400 with 2 gigs of memory (though consumption rarely goes past half gig unless I'm running several VMWare OSes at the same time). I started using it about 3 days ago, I've had a few crashes, but mostly when doing something major like re-scanning my collection (8000+). Had no trouble grabbing covers, creating playlists, editing 100s of tags within Amarok, etc. Only complaint really is that it's pig slow when switching to or sorting columns on large playlists (well the whole 8000 heheh). I'm a Mandriva dev and would have to say that if you've not used it for a while I think you'll be pleasently surprised these days. It's come a long, long way since 10.0! Also the older Amarok run by Daniel is faily unstable (I'm also a bit of a KDE dev when I get a mo'!) is fairly old and bug ridden. Whatever your distro, I'd upgrade your Amarok to the latest stable for the best experience. FWIW, if you add your sources correctly you can just urpmi your 2006.0 machine to 2007.1 relatively easily. I've done it on several machines now (a couple of them remotely!). FYI, after a few days of using Amarok I've found it to be extremely prone to hanging. To try and correct the problem I downloaded the latest stable source (1.4.5) and built it myself. Still hanging all over the place (simple selection of new mp3, re-arranging queued songs, etc). It also appears to keep NFS file handles open (possibly with locks) since my NFS hung a few times after it died and I had to force an unmount. Definitely not NFS itself, I've transferred 100s of gigs over months of uptime without a problem... only seen it hang on an Amarok hang (more than once now). Anyways, I'll keep giving it a go, I created a wrapper script when starting it up now that checks the process list and kills all related Amarok processes before relaunching... makes it a little more bearable). BTW, I know this isn't your issue or anything Colin, just passing along my experience for Dan :) Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: php-cli vs python
Micro$oft expressed interest in Python. But I don't know whether it's a trap or bait... :) I said these because of Foxpro. Micro$oft bought it, improved it. But now that Micro$oft wanan go .NET, Visual Foxpro was discontinued. Same thing could happen to Python, since it's not a tool invented, designed and patented by the genes of Micro$oft. -- .~. Might. Courage. Vision. Sincerity. http://www.linux-sxs.org / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and Farce be with you! /( _ )\ (Fedora Core 4) Linux 2.6.17-1.2142_FC4 ^ ^ 13:50:01 up 126 days 21:34 1 user load average: 0.00 0.00 0.00 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: php-cli vs python
Interesting reading: http://wiki.w4py.org/python-vs-php.html I don't understand those python-over-php advantages at all... possibly not important. For now, I stick with PHP. -- .~. Might. Courage. Vision. Sincerity. http://www.linux-sxs.org / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and Farce be with you! /( _ )\ (Fedora Core 4) Linux 2.6.17-1.2142_FC4 ^ ^ 13:48:01 up 126 days 21:32 1 user load average: 0.00 0.00 0.00 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: php-cli vs python
On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 13:50 +0800, Man-wai Chang wrote: Micro$oft expressed interest in Python. But I don't know whether it's a trap or bait... :) I said these because of Foxpro. Micro$oft bought it, improved it. But now that Micro$oft wanan go .NET, Visual Foxpro was discontinued. Same thing could happen to Python, since it's not a tool invented, designed and patented by the genes of Micro$oft. Does Microsoft actually invent anything? Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: php-cli vs python
On Friday 08 June 2007 16:21:04 Robert Cummings wrote: On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 13:50 +0800, Man-wai Chang wrote: Micro$oft expressed interest in Python. But I don't know whether it's a trap or bait... :) I said these because of Foxpro. Micro$oft bought it, improved it. But now that Micro$oft wanan go .NET, Visual Foxpro was discontinued. Same thing could happen to Python, since it's not a tool invented, designed and patented by the genes of Micro$oft. Does Microsoft actually invent anything? Cheers, Rob. Actually chair throwing invented by M$ invetion and the others INNOVATION... :) Sancar -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: php-cli vs python
On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 16:42 +0300, Sancar Saran wrote: On Friday 08 June 2007 16:21:04 Robert Cummings wrote: On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 13:50 +0800, Man-wai Chang wrote: Micro$oft expressed interest in Python. But I don't know whether it's a trap or bait... :) I said these because of Foxpro. Micro$oft bought it, improved it. But now that Micro$oft wanan go .NET, Visual Foxpro was discontinued. Same thing could happen to Python, since it's not a tool invented, designed and patented by the genes of Micro$oft. Does Microsoft actually invent anything? Cheers, Rob. Actually chair throwing invented by M$ invetion and the others INNOVATION... That's how you know Steve Ballmer is a wuss. Real men throw cabers :) Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: php-cli vs python
On Friday 08 June 2007 13:50, Man-wai Chang wrote: Micro$oft expressed interest in Python. But I don't know whether it's a trap or bait... :) I said these because of Foxpro. Micro$oft bought it, improved it. But now that Micro$oft wanan go .NET, Visual Foxpro was discontinued. Same thing could happen to Python, since it's not a tool invented, designed and patented by the genes of Micro$oft. The only thing M$ designed is obsolescence builtin. But they do have a habit of patenting things invented by others. As with most open source projects it is simply not possible for M$ to buy them. Sure, they may be able to buy or hire the main contributors to a particular project and influence which direction it takes. But if interested people don't like the direction in which M$ is taking the project they can simply fork it. IOW there is no way M$ can embrace and extinguish an open source project. This is something that M$ has to learn. In the past they were able to destroy _really_ innovative products by buying the company and squatting on its technology (ie kill off all development and let it die off). For _merely_ innovative products, M$ just stole what it needed and if its lawyers couldn't get the owners of the stolen technology to back down, they just paid the token fine that the courts usually imposed. -- Crayon -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: php-cli vs python OT
On 6/7/07, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 23:33 +0100, Colin Guthrie wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 16:36 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote: Are you using Amarok on Windows, Linux, or other? I have Amarok 1.3.1 on KDE 3.4.2 on Mandriva 2006.0 Community on 2.6.12-12mdksmp on an i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.60GHz w/ 1GB RAM on a desk with a bunch of crap on it, and all it does is crash for me. I use Totem instead, occasionally using xine for audio, and usually for video (different subject). Just wondering how stable Amarok is for you. I'm running Amarok 1.4.3 (using KDE 3.5.5) on Ubuntu 6.10 (I'm actually a Gnome user). I used Mandrake up till 10.0, I'll never go back. My desktop is an Athlon 2400 with 2 gigs of memory (though consumption rarely goes past half gig unless I'm running several VMWare OSes at the same time). I started using it about 3 days ago, I've had a few crashes, but mostly when doing something major like re-scanning my collection (8000+). Had no trouble grabbing covers, creating playlists, editing 100s of tags within Amarok, etc. Only complaint really is that it's pig slow when switching to or sorting columns on large playlists (well the whole 8000 heheh). I'm a Mandriva dev and would have to say that if you've not used it for a while I think you'll be pleasently surprised these days. It's come a long, long way since 10.0! I guess I should never say never :) Maybe I'll give it a spin in VMWare when I have some spare time. Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Yeah, like I've said in other posts, I've been using Mandrive since before Connectiva got in the mix, and it was Mandrake. The first version I jumped on was Mandrake 7.2 (Odyssey) back in 2000, after jumping off of Redhat 7 (Guinness). I usually upgrade about once every year or so, going to 8.1 (Vitamin), 8.2 (Bluebird), and 9.2 (FiveStar), but used FiveStar from 2003 until last year when I made the huge leap to 2006.0 Community. Freaking amazing. So since 2000, I've been using it at home, in my vehicles, and even used it as a requirement for hire when a new company wanted to bring me on (which is from where I'm typing right now, in fact). I haven't bumped up versions yet on any of my machines, so 2006.0 is my most recent installation, and I rarely use it for a production server (though almost always for my local test and development environments), but as long as Mandriva keeps everything in the spirit of the original Mandrakelinux project, I don't see myself jumping ship completely. I'll add a CentOS server or play with an Ubuntu distro here and there, but Mandrake will always be home to me. -- Daniel P. Brown [office] (570-) 587-7080 Ext. 272 [mobile] (570-) 766-8107 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: php-cli vs python
On 6/8/07, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 13:50 +0800, Man-wai Chang wrote: Micro$oft expressed interest in Python. But I don't know whether it's a trap or bait... :) I said these because of Foxpro. Micro$oft bought it, improved it. But now that Micro$oft wanan go .NET, Visual Foxpro was discontinued. Same thing could happen to Python, since it's not a tool invented, designed and patented by the genes of Micro$oft. Does Microsoft actually invent anything? Cheers, Rob. Uhm,.. no! It started with MSDOS, which is actually a copied version from QDOS... And after that they only copied ideas.. Tijnema -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: php-cli vs python
Otherwise you have to start again from scratch in python code (creating more places for bugs to hide and making the whole thing more complicated). While they can access the same database, there's nothing else they can share. Micro$oft expressed interest in Python. But I don't know whether it's a trap or bait... :) -- @~@ Might, Courage, Vision, SINCERITY. http://www.linux-sxs.org / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and Farce be with you! /( _ )\ (Xubuntu 7.04) Linux 2.6.21.3 ^ ^ 19:46:01 up 11 days 3:19 0 users load average: 0.00 0.00 0.00 news://news.3home.net news://news.hkpcug.org news://news.newsgroup.com.hk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: php-cli vs python
On 6/7/07, Man-wai Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Otherwise you have to start again from scratch in python code (creating more places for bugs to hide and making the whole thing more complicated). While they can access the same database, there's nothing else they can share. Micro$oft expressed interest in Python. But I don't know whether it's a trap or bait... :) -- @~@ Might, Courage, Vision, SINCERITY. http://www.linux-sxs.org / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and Farce be with you! /( _ )\ (Xubuntu 7.04) Linux 2.6.21.3 ^ ^ 19:46:01 up 11 days 3:19 0 users load average: 0.00 0.00 0.00 news://news.3home.net news://news.hkpcug.org news://news.newsgroup.com.hk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Interesting reading: http://wiki.w4py.org/python-vs-php.html -- Daniel P. Brown [office] (570-) 587-7080 Ext. 272 [mobile] (570-) 766-8107 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: php-cli vs python
On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 10:46 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote: On 6/7/07, Man-wai Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Otherwise you have to start again from scratch in python code (creating more places for bugs to hide and making the whole thing more complicated). While they can access the same database, there's nothing else they can share. Micro$oft expressed interest in Python. But I don't know whether it's a trap or bait... :) Interesting reading: http://wiki.w4py.org/python-vs-php.html They forgot a PHP pro... speed! Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: php-cli vs python
On 6/7/07, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 10:46 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote: On 6/7/07, Man-wai Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Otherwise you have to start again from scratch in python code (creating more places for bugs to hide and making the whole thing more complicated). While they can access the same database, there's nothing else they can share. Micro$oft expressed interest in Python. But I don't know whether it's a trap or bait... :) Interesting reading: http://wiki.w4py.org/python-vs-php.html They forgot a PHP pro... speed! Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' They also don't touch on the extensibility, automation of expansion with PEAR and PECL, virtually unlimited and readily-available core modules and scripts, and the vast implementations the world over but who's really paying attention, anyway? ;-P -- Daniel P. Brown [office] (570-) 587-7080 Ext. 272 [mobile] (570-) 766-8107 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: php-cli vs python
Chris dedi ki: Abdullah Ramazanoglu wrote: --8-- Personally I'd stick to one or the other for the whole project, you'll save yourself a lot of headaches in the future. Thank you Chris, for the insight. The more I think about it, the closer I get to the same conclusion. I've already made up my mind for php in web based development. Also, I'm still unable to find a dramatic disadvantage of php against python on the command line. What's more, I'm actually more of a sysadmin than a dedicated application programmer. So I can't afford to put more or less similar languages of the same league under my belt. Kind regards, -- Abdullah Ramazanoglu aramazan ÄT myrealbox D0T cöm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: php-cli vs python OT
Robert Cummings wrote: On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 16:36 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote: Are you using Amarok on Windows, Linux, or other? I have Amarok 1.3.1 on KDE 3.4.2 on Mandriva 2006.0 Community on 2.6.12-12mdksmp on an i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.60GHz w/ 1GB RAM on a desk with a bunch of crap on it, and all it does is crash for me. I use Totem instead, occasionally using xine for audio, and usually for video (different subject). Just wondering how stable Amarok is for you. I'm running Amarok 1.4.3 (using KDE 3.5.5) on Ubuntu 6.10 (I'm actually a Gnome user). I used Mandrake up till 10.0, I'll never go back. My desktop is an Athlon 2400 with 2 gigs of memory (though consumption rarely goes past half gig unless I'm running several VMWare OSes at the same time). I started using it about 3 days ago, I've had a few crashes, but mostly when doing something major like re-scanning my collection (8000+). Had no trouble grabbing covers, creating playlists, editing 100s of tags within Amarok, etc. Only complaint really is that it's pig slow when switching to or sorting columns on large playlists (well the whole 8000 heheh). I'm a Mandriva dev and would have to say that if you've not used it for a while I think you'll be pleasently surprised these days. It's come a long, long way since 10.0! Also the older Amarok run by Daniel is faily unstable (I'm also a bit of a KDE dev when I get a mo'!) is fairly old and bug ridden. Whatever your distro, I'd upgrade your Amarok to the latest stable for the best experience. FWIW, if you add your sources correctly you can just urpmi your 2006.0 machine to 2007.1 relatively easily. I've done it on several machines now (a couple of them remotely!). Col -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: php-cli vs python OT
On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 23:33 +0100, Colin Guthrie wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 16:36 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote: Are you using Amarok on Windows, Linux, or other? I have Amarok 1.3.1 on KDE 3.4.2 on Mandriva 2006.0 Community on 2.6.12-12mdksmp on an i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.60GHz w/ 1GB RAM on a desk with a bunch of crap on it, and all it does is crash for me. I use Totem instead, occasionally using xine for audio, and usually for video (different subject). Just wondering how stable Amarok is for you. I'm running Amarok 1.4.3 (using KDE 3.5.5) on Ubuntu 6.10 (I'm actually a Gnome user). I used Mandrake up till 10.0, I'll never go back. My desktop is an Athlon 2400 with 2 gigs of memory (though consumption rarely goes past half gig unless I'm running several VMWare OSes at the same time). I started using it about 3 days ago, I've had a few crashes, but mostly when doing something major like re-scanning my collection (8000+). Had no trouble grabbing covers, creating playlists, editing 100s of tags within Amarok, etc. Only complaint really is that it's pig slow when switching to or sorting columns on large playlists (well the whole 8000 heheh). I'm a Mandriva dev and would have to say that if you've not used it for a while I think you'll be pleasently surprised these days. It's come a long, long way since 10.0! I guess I should never say never :) Maybe I'll give it a spin in VMWare when I have some spare time. Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
