Re: [PHP] 3 mins of your time please...logic problem
A different approache for the captcha.. instead of using a blurred image use some text and than ask a question about the text like What does the 2nd word in the first line of the 4thparagraph say? Things to make sure: - Use enough texts so that guessing the correct word is not possible. - Use random word extraction to make the word different on each invocation. - Use different questions types and mix numbers and words. Like what is the word after the first word... stuff like that 10 different question should suffice - make sure that you have a timeout or relocation after a wrong word to make brute force attacks unattractive or even impossible This should be fairly easy to implement using db and php and is not quite as complicated as creating a blurry image. (IMHO) The system is easy to extend and easy to use by humans. Regards Stefan Langer
Re: [PHP] 3 mins of your time please...logic problem
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A different approache for the captcha.. instead of using a blurred image use some text and than ask a question about the text like What does the 2nd word in the first line of the 4thparagraph say? Reading images can still be automated, it just takes a lot more time to write a program to do so. A simple paragraph with text would be easy (relatively speaking) for a program to decipher and automatically answer. That's why you make the image screwy... the letters are tilted, overlapping, wavy, colored, or complex backgrounds, etc. Even the best of those images can be read by computer programs, though, although very few people would be able to write that program. Read here: http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~mori/gimpy/gimpy.html ---John Holmes... -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Antwort: Re: [PHP] 3 mins of your time please...logic problem
I agree that an image captcha can not be cracked by a lot of people, allthough it has been done. (and it takes only one program being released to do the job : ) ) Somethings to keep in mind is that you should use passphrases made up of random letters and numbers preventing the automated system from guessing them. The text captcha is based on the idea that the question you ask has to be interpreted first. I admit my question was not the best example but it should give an idea. A (maybe) better example: The author Frank Example is 35 years old. He studies Law at Harvard. BTW he says Hi. , What does the author Frank say? In a real world app this would be contained in a much larger text block and the question and text would be changed on each attempt. If you have a wide enough base of such questions it becomes virtually impossible to guess the correct word leaving only a brute force attack. A text captcha is fairly easy to set up using mysql and php but if you have a image captcha generator go with it or better even combine the two, it all depends on the grade of security you need against automation. regards Stefan Langer
[PHP] 3 mins of your time please...logic problem
Hi all, Am having a bit of a problem understanding this, can anybody tell me where i'm going wrong please? Basically trying to limit the vote to just 1 per person, first am checking if the the person with username has voted, if that comes back as false then am checking his ip (because i dont know if the person changed his username and is trying to vote again) now its allowing me to vote twice and on the third time its restricting me. *code* $check=select vote_date from site_rateing where user='.$username.' and sitenumber=.$n; $res = mysql_query($check) or die(Error: . mysql_error()); $check_result = mysql_num_rows($res); if($check_result !=1) { $oneVote=1; $check2=select count(*) from site_rateing where ipno='.$theIP.' and sitenumber=.$n; $check_result2 = mysql_result(mysql_query($check2),0); if($check_result2 =1) { $oneVote=2;}else{$oneVote=1;} }// end of first if if($oneVote ==2) { $row = mysql_fetch_row($res); print(Sorry, You have already voted on .$row[0]..br Only one vote is allowed); exit; } else //continue with the program. *code* Any ideas? Thanks, -Ryan -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] 3 mins of your time please...logic problem
You might try to perform bother queries first then check then by If ($result1 || $result2) { echo You have already voted; } else { ... } This means that if either the username or ip or both exists in the db, then the user is denied... Hope this is along the lines of what your needing to do. -Original Message- From: Ryan A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 12:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] 3 mins of your time please...logic problem Hi all, Am having a bit of a problem understanding this, can anybody tell me where i'm going wrong please? Basically trying to limit the vote to just 1 per person, first am checking if the the person with username has voted, if that comes back as false then am checking his ip (because i dont know if the person changed his username and is trying to vote again) now its allowing me to vote twice and on the third time its restricting me. *code* $check=select vote_date from site_rateing where user='.$username.' and sitenumber=.$n; $res = mysql_query($check) or die(Error: . mysql_error()); $check_result = mysql_num_rows($res); if($check_result !=1) { $oneVote=1; $check2=select count(*) from site_rateing where ipno='.$theIP.' and sitenumber=.$n; $check_result2 = mysql_result(mysql_query($check2),0); if($check_result2 =1) { $oneVote=2;}else{$oneVote=1;} }// end of first if if($oneVote ==2) { $row = mysql_fetch_row($res); print(Sorry, You have already voted on .$row[0]..br Only one vote is allowed); exit; } else //continue with the program. *code* Any ideas? Thanks, -Ryan -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] 3 mins of your time please...logic problem
From: Ryan A [EMAIL PROTECTED] Basically trying to limit the vote to just 1 per person, first am checking if the the person with username has voted, if that comes back as false then am checking his ip (because i dont know if the person changed his username and is trying to vote again) now its allowing me to vote twice and on the third time its restricting me. Just get rid of the check for IP address. All you're going to do is restrict a bunch of people that actually haven't voted just because they have the same IP address as someone else. Some ISPs have it so that all requests look like they are coming from the same IP address while it's actually different people. If your poll is really so important that you need to limit people from voting twice, then make them log in and only allow one vote per username. ---John Holmes... -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] 3 mins of your time please...logic problem
Hi, Another way to restrict them to one vote is to set a cookie. Although not completely full-proof, its a method I've seen a lot of them use. -Dan Joseph -Original Message- From: CPT John W. Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 1:54 PM To: Ryan A; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] 3 mins of your time please...logic problem From: Ryan A [EMAIL PROTECTED] Basically trying to limit the vote to just 1 per person, first am checking if the the person with username has voted, if that comes back as false then am checking his ip (because i dont know if the person changed his username and is trying to vote again) now its allowing me to vote twice and on the third time its restricting me. Just get rid of the check for IP address. All you're going to do is restrict a bunch of people that actually haven't voted just because they have the same IP address as someone else. Some ISPs have it so that all requests look like they are coming from the same IP address while it's actually different people. If your poll is really so important that you need to limit people from voting twice, then make them log in and only allow one vote per username. ---John Holmes... -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] 3 mins of your time please...logic problem
Hey John, Thanks for replying. Just get rid of the check for IP address. All you're going to do is restrict a bunch of people that actually haven't voted just because they have the same IP address as someone else. Some ISPs have it so that all requests look like they are coming from the same IP address while it's actually different people. If your poll is really so important that you need to limit people from voting twice, then make them log in and only allow one vote per username. I thought of that, I am making them login before voteing but whats to stop them from changing usernames and then voteing again? Am open to ALL suggestions and ideas but I have to make this pretty secure as a lot of big company names are involved and may try to boost their own rateings as money is involved. Any ideas spit them my way :-D Cheers, -Ryan -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] 3 mins of your time please...logic problem
You could take it further and only allow one vote per user and then log their IP address as well. There won't be many people who are determined to sway the vote by going through the hassle of creating a new user and then voting again. But there may be some. You can weed these out by looking through all the votes, usernames and ip addresses and then disregard votes which come from the same IP address from users who've only signed up minutes before voting. While they might think that they've beaten the system, you can clearly see from your table of users, registration dates, IP address and Voting Times that they're bogus. But it's a bit laborious to do this. Alternatively, once you've stored the first vote from a user in your database, let them vote again, give them the 'Thank you for your vote' message but disregard it from the server side. They'll think they're getting somewhere when in fact they're wasting their time (like those morons you see at pedestrian crossings who stab the button repeatedly, with the belief that it might make the lights change faster). And they probably won't try anything else which saves you having to delete a whole pile of junk user accounts. Just make sure you only show your users the poll result as a percentage without the 'x number of people have voted' or you'll be sussed. Would anyone really want to frig a forum poll anyway? Surely nobody's that sad! C -Original Message- From: CPT John W. Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 September 2003 17:54 To: Ryan A; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] 3 mins of your time please...logic problem From: Ryan A [EMAIL PROTECTED] Basically trying to limit the vote to just 1 per person, first am checking if the the person with username has voted, if that comes back as false then am checking his ip (because i dont know if the person changed his username and is trying to vote again) now its allowing me to vote twice and on the third time its restricting me. Just get rid of the check for IP address. All you're going to do is restrict a bunch of people that actually haven't voted just because they have the same IP address as someone else. Some ISPs have it so that all requests look like they are coming from the same IP address while it's actually different people. If your poll is really so important that you need to limit people from voting twice, then make them log in and only allow one vote per username. ---John Holmes... -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, please preserve the confidentiality of it and advise the sender immediately of any error in transmission. Any disclosure, copying, distribution or action taken, or omitted to be taken, by an unauthorised recipient in reliance upon the contents of this e-mail is prohibited. Somerfield cannot accept liability for any damage which you may sustain as a result of software viruses so please carry out your own virus checks before opening an attachment. In replying to this e-mail you are granting the right for that reply to be forwarded to any other individual within the business and also to be read by others. Any views expressed by an individual within this message do not necessarily reflect the views of Somerfield. Somerfield reserves the right to intercept, monitor and record communications for lawful business purposes. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] 3 mins of your time please...logic problem
On Thursday 25 September 2003 02:21, Ryan A wrote: If your poll is really so important that you need to limit people from voting twice, then make them log in and only allow one vote per username. I thought of that, I am making them login before voteing but whats to stop them from changing usernames and then voteing again? Am open to ALL suggestions and ideas but I have to make this pretty secure as a lot of big company names are involved and may try to boost their own rateings as money is involved. Any ideas spit them my way :-D Charge them a thousand dollars for each vote. That should cut down on some of the fraud. -- Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.biz Open Source Software Systems Integrators * Web Design Hosting * Internet Intranet Applications Development * -- Search the list archives before you post http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general -- /* Living in LA is like not having a date on Saturday night. -- Candice Bergen */ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] 3 mins of your time please...logic problem
--- Dan Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another way to restrict them to one vote is to set a cookie. Although not completely full-proof, its a method I've seen a lot of them use. That's way too easy to avoid. You might rule out the bottom 50% of the computer illiterate, but these are probably the people who are having trouble casting their vote once, much less trying to cast a second vote. Also, while everyone else is doing it is a good reason to at least research a particular method, it's not a good reason to choose it. Hope that helps. Chris = Become a better Web developer with the HTTP Developer's Handbook http://httphandbook.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] 3 mins of your time please...logic problem
On Thursday 25 September 2003 02:13, Dan Joseph wrote: Another way to restrict them to one vote is to set a cookie. Although not completely full-proof, its a method I've seen a lot of them use. This is probably the easiest 'security' measure to circumvent. How hard is it to delete a cookie? -- Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.biz Open Source Software Systems Integrators * Web Design Hosting * Internet Intranet Applications Development * -- Search the list archives before you post http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general -- /* There is no such thing as an ugly woman -- there are only the ones who do not know how to make themselves attractive. -- Christian Dior */ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] 3 mins of your time please...logic problem
Hi, Another way to restrict them to one vote is to set a cookie. Although not completely full-proof, its a method I've seen a lot of them use. Ok, let's examine the part where I said its not full-proof... -Dan Joseph -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] 3 mins of your time please...logic problem
On Thursday 25 September 2003 03:52, Dan Joseph wrote: Ok, let's examine the part where I said its not full-proof... I believe you mean fool-proof? Actually it *is* pretty fool-proof, because hopefully fools aren't smart enough to delete said cookies ;-) -- Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.biz Open Source Software Systems Integrators * Web Design Hosting * Internet Intranet Applications Development * -- Search the list archives before you post http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general -- /* Objects are lost only because people look where they are not rather than where they are. */ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] 3 mins of your time please...logic problem
Hey John, Thats already done, the user has to authenticate his address by clicking on the link which contains his $CNO and $random_number But the rateing system is for webhosts, and webhosts usually have a catch all email address so they can use n number of email addresses Cheers, -Ryan So make your registration process do the work and ensure users are unique, not the poll engine. Have them supply an email address that they must reply to (or click a link within) in order to validate. Get one of those image programs where you have to type in the letters/numbers off the image that'll stop automatic registrations. Make sure everything important is done over SSL. ---John Holmes... -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] 3 mins of your time please...logic problem
Hey, You could take it further and only allow one vote per user and then log their IP address as well. Thats exactly what i am trying. First it will check on $username, if that passes then it checks on $IP if that passes, allow the vote if not There won't be many people who are determined to sway the vote by going through the hassle of creating a new user and then voting again. But there may be some. Exactly. disregard votes which come from the same IP address from users who've only signed up minutes before voting. Here theres a problem because as they sign up they are allowed to vote, basically when they try to vote and are not signed in they are taken to the sign up page, after they sign up a contol panel is created for them with a crapload of functions and they are taken to the voteing screen of the company they were trying to vote for in the first place. While they might think that they've beaten the system, you can clearly see from your table of users, registration dates, IP address and Voting Times that they're bogus. But it's a bit laborious to do this. It will be too much of a pain in the ass to to that...want something complicated but simple if you know what i mean. Alternatively, once you've stored the first vote from a user in your database, let them vote again, give them the 'Thank you for your vote' message but disregard it from the server side. Thats the easy way around it, am doing it the hard way, am sending the user something like, you have already voted for this company on date if you would like to see what you voted on or would like to change you vote click here Users vote on 7 differient points/conditions. They'll think they're getting somewhere when in fact they're wasting their time (like those morons you see at pedestrian crossings who stab the button repeatedly, with the belief that it might make the lights change faster). HEHEHEH happy to know i am not the only one who gets pissed off with them. Would anyone really want to frig a forum poll anyway? Surely nobody's that sad! Cant explain that right now but believe me its possible when $$ may be involved. Cheers, -Ryan -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] 3 mins of your time please...logic problem
Now THERES an idea, if 2 people are willing to vote am going on the PHP cruise :-D Cheers, -Ryan Charge them a thousand dollars for each vote. That should cut down on some of the fraud. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] 3 mins of your time please...logic problem
On Thursday 25 September 2003 04:03, Ryan A wrote: Thats already done, the user has to authenticate his address by clicking on the link which contains his $CNO and $random_number But the rateing system is for webhosts, and webhosts usually have a catch all email address so they can use n number of email addresses Make the voting process tedious and non-automatable. Eg generate an image with some fuzzy characters embedded and ask the voter to enter the letters. -- Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.biz Open Source Software Systems Integrators * Web Design Hosting * Internet Intranet Applications Development * -- Search the list archives before you post http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general -- /* Alimony is a system by which, when two people make a mistake, one of them continues to pay for it. -- Peggy Joyce */ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] 3 mins of your time please...logic problem
Its already a bit of a pain in the ass, the user has to login to his email and confirm his address by clicking on a link that has his $cno and $random_word before being allowed to vote...unless he/she already has a mylist account and is logged in. Cheers, -Ryan Thats already done, the user has to authenticate his address by clicking on the link which contains his $CNO and $random_number But the rateing system is for webhosts, and webhosts usually have a catch all email address so they can use n number of email addresses Make the voting process tedious and non-automatable. Eg generate an image with some fuzzy characters embedded and ask the voter to enter the letters. -- Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.biz Open Source Software Systems Integrators * Web Design Hosting * Internet Intranet Applications Development * -- Search the list archives before you post http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general -- /* Alimony is a system by which, when two people make a mistake, one of them continues to pay for it. -- Peggy Joyce */ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] 3 mins of your time please...logic problem
On Thursday 25 September 2003 05:14, Ryan A wrote: Its already a bit of a pain in the ass, the user has to login to his email and confirm his address by clicking on a link that has his $cno and $random_word before being allowed to vote...unless he/she already has a mylist account and is logged in. Signing up, receiving mail, clicking on a link, can all be automated. Someone can just write a script and can vote as fast as you send out mail! -- Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.biz Open Source Software Systems Integrators * Web Design Hosting * Internet Intranet Applications Development * -- Search the list archives before you post http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general -- /* Insanity is hereditary. You get it from your kids. */ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] 3 mins of your time please...logic problem
Hey, Thanks for the suggestion, didnt know it can be so automated. Can you give me any links for generating blurry images that can be human identified quickly but not so easy by automation? Thanks, -Ryan On Thursday 25 September 2003 05:14, Ryan A wrote: Its already a bit of a pain in the ass, the user has to login to his email and confirm his address by clicking on a link that has his $cno and $random_word before being allowed to vote...unless he/she already has a mylist account and is logged in. Signing up, receiving mail, clicking on a link, can all be automated. Someone can just write a script and can vote as fast as you send out mail! -- Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.biz Open Source Software Systems Integrators * Web Design Hosting * Internet Intranet Applications Development * -- Search the list archives before you post http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general -- /* Insanity is hereditary. You get it from your kids. */ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] 3 mins of your time please...logic problem
--- Ryan A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you give me any links for generating blurry images that can be human identified quickly but not so easy by automation? http://www.captcha.net/ Hope that helps. Chris = Become a better Web developer with the HTTP Developer's Handbook http://httphandbook.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] 3 mins of your time please...logic problem
On Thursday 25 September 2003 05:44, Ryan A wrote: Can you give me any links for generating blurry images that can be human identified quickly but not so easy by automation? There's a class in www.phpclasses.org which help you generate such images, I've no idea how good it is. It's pretty straightforward to write your own using the image functions: 1) create a new image 2) set a background colour 3) create some random characters, using random fonts, random colour (limit the set of colours to choose from so it doesn't disappear into the background), and small amount of random rotation 4) for good measure sprinkle the image liberally with randomly coloured pixels. -- Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.biz Open Source Software Systems Integrators * Web Design Hosting * Internet Intranet Applications Development * -- Search the list archives before you post http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general -- /* Question: Is it better to abide by the rules until they're changed or help speed the change by breaking them? */ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] 3 mins of your time please...logic problem
Hey, Went there, but the program just generates some clear alpha numeric images...i want something blurred or distorted like the samples there have there. Cheers, -Ryan http://www.captcha.net/ Hope that helps. Chris = Become a better Web developer with the HTTP Developer's Handbook http://httphandbook.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] 3 mins of your time please...logic problem
Hey, Tried it...not too good :-( -Ryan On Thursday 25 September 2003 05:44, Ryan A wrote: Can you give me any links for generating blurry images that can be human identified quickly but not so easy by automation? There's a class in www.phpclasses.org which help you generate such images, I've no idea how good it is. It's pretty straightforward to write your own using the image functions: 1) create a new image 2) set a background colour 3) create some random characters, using random fonts, random colour (limit the set of colours to choose from so it doesn't disappear into the background), and small amount of random rotation 4) for good measure sprinkle the image liberally with randomly coloured pixels. -- Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.biz Open Source Software Systems Integrators * Web Design Hosting * Internet Intranet Applications Development * -- Search the list archives before you post http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general -- /* Question: Is it better to abide by the rules until they're changed or help speed the change by breaking them? */ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] 3 mins of your time please...logic problem
--- Ryan A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Went there [http://www.captcha.net/], but the program just generates some clear alpha numeric images...i want something blurred or distorted like the samples there have there. What program? There are a few there, and they all generate images that are blurred or distorted as far as I am aware. Yahoo uses ez-gimpy; surely that is a good enough reason to at least consider it. Chris = Become a better Web developer with the HTTP Developer's Handbook http://httphandbook.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: chris-Re: [PHP] 3 mins of your time please...logic problem
--- Ryan A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WHERE?? Can you point me to them? I had a tough time myself. I just went to this page: http://www.captcha.net/cgi-bin/ez-gimpy And, when I view source, I see the following in an HTML comment: The following versions are available for download: a href=/ez-gimpy_install.tarEZ-Gimpy/a, a href=/gimpy_install.tarGimpy/a. So, I tried this URL: http://www.captcha.net/ez-gimpy_install.tar And, it works. Hope that helps. Chris = Become a better Web developer with the HTTP Developer's Handbook http://httphandbook.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: chris-Re: [PHP] 3 mins of your time please...logic problem
--- Chris Shiflett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a tough time myself. I just went to this page: http://www.captcha.net/cgi-bin/ez-gimpy I meant to say that this page has the HTML comment: http://www.captcha.net/captchas/gimpy/ Chris = Become a better Web developer with the HTTP Developer's Handbook http://httphandbook.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: chris-Re: [PHP] 3 mins of your time please...logic problem
Hey, Thanks dude, have downloaded both will see if i understand them now :-D cheers, -Ryan We will slaughter you all! - The Iraqi (Dis)information ministers site http://MrSahaf.com - Original Message - From: Chris Shiflett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ryan A [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 2:00 AM Subject: [PHP] Re: chris-Re: [PHP] 3 mins of your time please...logic problem --- Ryan A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WHERE?? Can you point me to them? I had a tough time myself. I just went to this page: http://www.captcha.net/cgi-bin/ez-gimpy And, when I view source, I see the following in an HTML comment: The following versions are available for download: a href=/ez-gimpy_install.tarEZ-Gimpy/a, a href=/gimpy_install.tarGimpy/a. So, I tried this URL: http://www.captcha.net/ez-gimpy_install.tar And, it works. Hope that helps. Chris = Become a better Web developer with the HTTP Developer's Handbook http://httphandbook.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] 3 mins of your time please...logic problem
* Thus wrote Chris Shiflett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): --- Ryan A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Went there [http://www.captcha.net/], but the program just generates some clear alpha numeric images...i want something blurred or distorted like the samples there have there. What program? There are a few there, and they all generate images that are blurred or distorted as far as I am aware. Yahoo uses ez-gimpy; surely that is a good enough reason to at least consider it. Ok, I coulda swore there was a download link there for ez-gimp earlier today. Did we drive to much traffic there? lol Curt -- I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not so sure. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php