RE: [PHP] PHP/Ajax Framework - Call for Developers Testers
From: Raymond Irving Hi Nathan, I agree with you, and I believe that there are many persons who don't like the idea of hosting all their applications on a third party server. IMO there are some advantages and disadvantages to doing so but that's a discussion in itself. Hosted servers are basically a trade off between doing it yourself and paying someone else to do it. The initial choice is between installing your own servers or spend the money to rent servers from someone else. Most of the time it is actually the network bandwidth issue that decides this. Can you afford a network connection that will handle the peak loads but be unused most of the time? But once you decide to pay someone else, you have another set of trade offs to negotiate. What services do they provide? What systems do they offer? How do they manage version control and updates? Are they PCI compliant? There are a wide range of options available in the market. Not all of them will fit your specific needs. We just moved most of our servers from a physical hosting service to a managed service. Where we used to maintain the OS and all software on the server, the new service now handles that for us. The trade off is that now we have to settle for the server package they offer. That means we get the versions of Apache, PHP and PostgreSQL that were included in the last production release of RHEL. If we want a newer version of PHP, we have to take over maintenance of that component. It becomes our responsibility to install the updates, patches, etc., for that component. Once you get beyond a private web site these types of decisions become part of the management process, just as make or buy decisions are part of the hardware procurement process. There are people out there making a good living just guiding companies through this decision making process. Bob McConnell -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP/Ajax Framework - Call for Developers Testers
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Raymond Irving xwis...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Nathan, Many thanks for the feedback. There many other useful features built into the API but my favorite is the embedded feature. You can see a live example here: http://raxanpdi.com/shoutbox-embedded-example.html ive seen lots of third parties selling components in this manor. now that ajax has hit the scene there are some really weird things going on. i was just on a call yesterday where this company told us about their service, which is delivered as one of these 'embedded' applications. this thing would have its own navigation and display of content on our site in order to keep folks clicking. if you ask me, that just feels weird; having some other company like own a piece of your app... however, it would be foolish not to admit that this is the way things are trending and that there will only be more of it to come. -nathan
Re: [PHP] PHP/Ajax Framework - Call for Developers Testers
Hi Nathan, I agree with you, and I believe that there are many persons who don't like the idea of hosting all their applications on a third party server. IMO there are some advantages and disadvantages to doing so but that's a discussion in itself. The good thing about Raxan's Embeddable Apps is that you have control over the source code. With the ShoutBox example you can download the framwork along with the application and copy it to your own servers. No need to host the apps on third party servers. Some benefits of Raxan Embeddable Apps: 1. Works in just about any web page 2. Easy to deploy and configure 3. Reusable and Shareable I believe that one day we will see apps like Photo Galleries, Media players, File Managers, Catalogs, etc that users can easily download and add to the their web pages. PS. I would like to invite everyone to download the framework, try the examples and take a look at the source code. You will be amaze at what you can do with Raxan PDI. - You can download it here: http://code.google.com/p/raxan/downloads/detail?name=raxan-pdi.1.0.0b2.zipcan=2q= Best regards __ Raymond Irving --- On Thu, 8/20/09, Nathan Nobbe quickshif...@gmail.com wrote: From: Nathan Nobbe quickshif...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP/Ajax Framework - Call for Developers Testers To: Raymond Irving xwis...@yahoo.com Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 1:31 PM ive seen lots of third parties selling components in this manor. now that ajax has hit the scene there are some really weird things going on. i was just on a call yesterday where this company told us about their service, which is delivered as one of these 'embedded' applications. this thing would have its own navigation and display of content on our site in order to keep folks clicking. if you ask me, that just feels weird; having some other company like own a piece of your app... however, it would be foolish not to admit that this is the way things are trending and that there will only be more of it to come. -nathan
[PHP] PHP/Ajax Framework - Call for Developers Testers
Hello, I've just released Raxan Beta 2 with lots for features for both PHP and Ajax developers. I'm looking for persons to help me test and improve the framework. If you're interested, then please download the framework , join the community and share your thoughts and ideas. Feel free to send me an email if you have any questions. You can check out the new features here: http://raxanpdi.com/new-in-beta-2.html Best regards __ Raymond Irving
Re: [PHP] PHP/Ajax Framework - Call for Developers Testers
Hi Nathan, Many thanks for the feedback. There many other useful features built into the API but my favorite is the embedded feature. You can see a live example here: http://raxanpdi.com/shoutbox-embedded-example.html Best regards, __ Raymond Irving --- On Wed, 8/19/09, Nathan Nobbe quickshif...@gmail.com wrote: From: Nathan Nobbe quickshif...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP/Ajax Framework - Call for Developers Testers To: Raymond Irving xwis...@yahoo.com Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 11:56 AM On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Raymond Irving xwis...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello, I've just released Raxan Beta 2 with lots for features for both PHP and Ajax developers. I'm looking for persons to help me test and improve the framework. If you're interested, then please download the framework , join the community and share your thoughts and ideas. Feel free to send me an email if you have any questions. You can check out the new features here: http://raxanpdi.com/new-in-beta-2.html you have a neat feature list here Raymond, thanks for sharing. -nathan
[PHP] AJAX with POST
Hey all,
At the risk of being told this is a PHP and not a JS list, but
also knowing the discussions on this list, to the benefit of
all I believe, very wildly, I'm posting this JS code snippet
for some advice.
As I posted earlier, my AJAX app that uses a GET to post to
the server (and get a response), fails on IE with larger data,
so I thought I'd take a shot at writing a POST function, but
so far I can get it to get the data back, but the problem is
by the time the data has come back the function has already
returned null back to the calling function. What I need this
function to do is wait for the data to come back and then send
it back to caller. Here's the function. Any advice would be
greatly appreciated. (The code to get the appropriate object
per browser has been omitted.)
http.open(POST, url, true);
//Send the proper header information along with the request
http.setRequestHeader(Content-type,
application/x-www-form-urlencoded);
http.setRequestHeader(Content-length, url.length);
http.setRequestHeader(Connection, close);
http.send(url);
http.onreadystatechange = function() {//Call a function when
the state changes.
if(http.readyState == 4 http.status == 200) {
alert('['+http.responseText+']');
return (http.responseText);
}
}
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Re: [PHP] AJAX with POST
On Apr 4, 2009, at 17:30, Skip Evans s...@bigskypenguin.com wrote:
Hey all,
At the risk of being told this is a PHP and not a JS list, but also
knowing the discussions on this list, to the benefit of all I
believe, very wildly, I'm posting this JS code snippet for some
advice.
As I posted earlier, my AJAX app that uses a GET to post to the
server (and get a response), fails on IE with larger data, so I
thought I'd take a shot at writing a POST function, but so far I can
get it to get the data back, but the problem is by the time the data
has come back the function has already returned null back to the
calling function. What I need this function to do is wait for the
data to come back and then send it back to caller. Here's the
function. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. (The code to get
the appropriate object per browser has been omitted.)
http.open(POST, url, true);
//Send the proper header information along with the request
http.setRequestHeader(Content-type, application/x-www-form-
urlencoded);
http.setRequestHeader(Content-length, url.length);
http.setRequestHeader(Connection, close);
http.send(url);
http.onreadystatechange = function() {//Call a function when the
state changes.
if(http.readyState == 4 http.status == 200) {
alert('['+http.responseText+']');
return (http.responseText);
}
}
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Madison WI 53703
608.250.2720
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Skip,
You didn't show the code to build the url variable but I would assume
that since you started with a get method you are tacking data onto the
end of the URL that is the called Ajax page.
I had the same issue at work correcting the VP's mistake of mixing up
post and get in his ajax call. The trick is to build the data
separately from the URL and pass it.
I do an ajax.open(URL) then an Ajax. Send(data) to send just the data.
I can post my entire function set if you want.
Bastien
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Re: [PHP] AJAX with POST
Hey Bastien all,
...D'oh! Thanks for the catch, yes, I am sending args on the
URL. But more to my problem, if I switch to POST will IE be
able to submit more data? If so, I can parse the URL down in
the function and build a proper post transaction, but my real
problem is IE can't submit, apparently, more than 2K through a
GET.
Do you know if POST can handle more?
Thanks tons for your reply!
Skip
PS. I'd very interested in seeing your set of functions.
Phpster wrote:
On Apr 4, 2009, at 17:30, Skip Evans s...@bigskypenguin.com wrote:
Hey all,
At the risk of being told this is a PHP and not a JS list, but also
knowing the discussions on this list, to the benefit of all I believe,
very wildly, I'm posting this JS code snippet for some advice.
As I posted earlier, my AJAX app that uses a GET to post to the server
(and get a response), fails on IE with larger data, so I thought I'd
take a shot at writing a POST function, but so far I can get it to get
the data back, but the problem is by the time the data has come back
the function has already returned null back to the calling function.
What I need this function to do is wait for the data to come back and
then send it back to caller. Here's the function. Any advice would be
greatly appreciated. (The code to get the appropriate object per
browser has been omitted.)
http.open(POST, url, true);
//Send the proper header information along with the request
http.setRequestHeader(Content-type,
application/x-www-form-urlencoded);
http.setRequestHeader(Content-length, url.length);
http.setRequestHeader(Connection, close);
http.send(url);
http.onreadystatechange = function() {//Call a function when the state
changes.
if(http.readyState == 4 http.status == 200) {
alert('['+http.responseText+']');
return (http.responseText);
}
}
--
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Big Sky Penguin, LLC
503 S Baldwin St, #1
Madison WI 53703
608.250.2720
http://bigskypenguin.com
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telekinesis, raise my hand.
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Skip,
You didn't show the code to build the url variable but I would assume
that since you started with a get method you are tacking data onto the
end of the URL that is the called Ajax page.
I had the same issue at work correcting the VP's mistake of mixing up
post and get in his ajax call. The trick is to build the data separately
from the URL and pass it.
I do an ajax.open(URL) then an Ajax. Send(data) to send just the data.
I can post my entire function set if you want.
Bastien
--
Skip Evans
Big Sky Penguin, LLC
503 S Baldwin St, #1
Madison WI 53703
608.250.2720
http://bigskypenguin.com
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telekinesis, raise my hand.
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Re: [PHP] AJAX with POST
Yep, much more
Bastien
Sent from my iPod
On Apr 4, 2009, at 21:24, Skip Evans s...@bigskypenguin.com wrote:
Hey Bastien all,
...D'oh! Thanks for the catch, yes, I am sending args on the URL.
But more to my problem, if I switch to POST will IE be able to
submit more data? If so, I can parse the URL down in the function
and build a proper post transaction, but my real problem is IE can't
submit, apparently, more than 2K through a GET.
Do you know if POST can handle more?
Thanks tons for your reply!
Skip
PS. I'd very interested in seeing your set of functions.
Phpster wrote:
On Apr 4, 2009, at 17:30, Skip Evans s...@bigskypenguin.com wrote:
Hey all,
At the risk of being told this is a PHP and not a JS list, but
also knowing the discussions on this list, to the benefit of all I
believe, very wildly, I'm posting this JS code snippet for some
advice.
As I posted earlier, my AJAX app that uses a GET to post to the
server (and get a response), fails on IE with larger data, so I
thought I'd take a shot at writing a POST function, but so far I
can get it to get the data back, but the problem is by the time
the data has come back the function has already returned null back
to the calling function. What I need this function to do is wait
for the data to come back and then send it back to caller. Here's
the function. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. (The code
to get the appropriate object per browser has been omitted.)
http.open(POST, url, true);
//Send the proper header information along with the request
http.setRequestHeader(Content-type, application/x-www-form-
urlencoded);
http.setRequestHeader(Content-length, url.length);
http.setRequestHeader(Connection, close);
http.send(url);
http.onreadystatechange = function() {//Call a function when the
state changes.
if(http.readyState == 4 http.status == 200) {
alert('['+http.responseText+']');
return (http.responseText);
}
}
--
Skip Evans
Big Sky Penguin, LLC
503 S Baldwin St, #1
Madison WI 53703
608.250.2720
http://bigskypenguin.com
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telekinesis, raise my hand.
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Skip,
You didn't show the code to build the url variable but I would
assume that since you started with a get method you are tacking
data onto the end of the URL that is the called Ajax page.
I had the same issue at work correcting the VP's mistake of mixing
up post and get in his ajax call. The trick is to build the data
separately from the URL and pass it.
I do an ajax.open(URL) then an Ajax. Send(data) to send just the
data.
I can post my entire function set if you want.
Bastien
--
Skip Evans
Big Sky Penguin, LLC
503 S Baldwin St, #1
Madison WI 53703
608.250.2720
http://bigskypenguin.com
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telekinesis, raise my hand.
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Re: [PHP] AJAX and PHP
tedd wrote:
At 12:10 PM +0200 10/4/08, Alain Roger wrote:
HI,
i'm currently working on some web application and i would like to know
what
is the best way to do what i want.
basically like all application i have a menu and based on selected
item menu
i want to display a page (basically 50 % of this new page is DB
result/grid.
As usual i have 2 divs, one for the menu one for the content of DB to
display.
i would like to know if it's not better to use AJAX to load the
content of
the second div (DB result and other stuff) instead to every time load
a new
page which load menu and content of DB ?
what are your experiences on such thing ?
thx.
--
Alain
Alain:
The only difference the user experiences between having AJAX, or not, is
refreshing the page. If page refresh is not a problem, then don't
complicate your life. On the other hand, if page refresh is annoying, or
not wanted, then AJAX is you're only solution.
But as it has been said before, not all users have javascript turned on
and as such AJAX will not work -- after all, it javascript.
However, there are way to degrade gracefully from a AJAX site to a
normal site. Google
javascript graceful degradation for references.
Please note, going the AJAX route does not make your coding simpler --
it's a different critter. But it does (with help from jQuery et al)
offer exciting new ways to present data.
Cheers,
tedd
this is a standard response for me recently; but have you looked in to
using flex 3 to build the clientside?
additionally ajax's main benefit (in my mind) is that it allows you to
pull down/update only the data you need, and not the whole page - often
this means you can skip out a large part of the templating and make the
php server side scripts so much lighter; very beneficial when polling.
Other than that, as everyone has mentioned - it's mainly a cosmetic thing.
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Re: [PHP] AJAX and PHP
Alain: The only difference the user experiences between having AJAX, or not, is refreshing the page. If page refresh is not a problem, then don't complicate your life. On the other hand, if page refresh is annoying, or not wanted, then AJAX is you're only solution. But as it has been said before, not all users have javascript turned on and as such AJAX will not work -- after all, it javascript. However, there are way to degrade gracefully from a AJAX site to a normal site. Google javascript graceful degradation for references. Please note, going the AJAX route does not make your coding simpler -- it's a different critter. But it does (with help from jQuery et al) offer exciting new ways to present data. Cheers, tedd this is a standard response for me recently; but have you looked in to using flex 3 to build the clientside? additionally ajax's main benefit (in my mind) is that it allows you to pull down/update only the data you need, and not the whole page - often this means you can skip out a large part of the templating and make the php server side scripts so much lighter; very beneficial when polling. Other than that, as everyone has mentioned - it's mainly a cosmetic thing. -- nathan ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Without mixing themes (flex in PHP forum) flex is similar to AS3, no ?
Re: [PHP] AJAX and PHP
Alain Roger wrote:
Alain:
The only difference the user experiences between having AJAX, or
not, is refreshing the page. If page refresh is not a problem,
then don't complicate your life. On the other hand, if page
refresh is annoying, or not wanted, then AJAX is you're only
solution.
But as it has been said before, not all users have javascript
turned on and as such AJAX will not work -- after all, it
javascript.
However, there are way to degrade gracefully from a AJAX site to
a normal site. Google
javascript graceful degradation for references.
Please note, going the AJAX route does not make your coding
simpler -- it's a different critter. But it does (with help from
jQuery et al) offer exciting new ways to present data.
Cheers,
tedd
this is a standard response for me recently; but have you looked in
to using flex 3 to build the clientside?
additionally ajax's main benefit (in my mind) is that it allows you
to pull down/update only the data you need, and not the whole page -
often this means you can skip out a large part of the templating and
make the php server side scripts so much lighter; very beneficial
when polling. Other than that, as everyone has mentioned - it's
mainly a cosmetic thing.
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Without mixing themes (flex in PHP forum) flex is similar to AS3, no ?
yes, flex is flash for developers; the main language is AS3 and it
outputs swf's; flex is basically a program which allows you to use mix
of pre-made ui elements classes, css and AS3 to quickly make great RIA's.
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Re: [PHP] AJAX and PHP
!-- SNIP -- yes, flex is flash for developers; the main language is AS3 and it outputs swf's; flex is basically a program which allows you to use mix of pre-made ui elements classes, css and AS3 to quickly make great RIA's. Yup, but you have to have flash enabled. But some of us don't except for specific sites due to ads being swfs as well. Wolf -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] AJAX and PHP
And AFAIK it does not work on linux platform On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: !-- SNIP -- yes, flex is flash for developers; the main language is AS3 and it outputs swf's; flex is basically a program which allows you to use mix of pre-made ui elements classes, css and AS3 to quickly make great RIA's. Yup, but you have to have flash enabled. But some of us don't except for specific sites due to ads being swfs as well. Wolf -- Alain Windows XP SP3 PostgreSQL 8.2.4 / MS SQL server 2005 Apache 2.2.4 PHP 5.2.4 C# 2005-2008
Re: [PHP] AJAX and PHP
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
!-- SNIP --
yes, flex is flash for developers; the main language is AS3 and it
outputs swf's; flex is basically a program which allows you to
use mix
of pre-made ui elements classes, css and AS3 to quickly make
great RIA's.
Yup, but you have to have flash enabled. But some of us don't
except for specific sites due to ads being swfs as well.
Wolf
Alain Roger wrote:
And AFAIK it does not work on linux platform
development wise adobe flex 3 SDK works on linux; afaik flex builder
(the wysiwyg ide for eclipse) doesn't yet.
clientside (the apps you develop) work anywhere flash player 9 does.
a great reason to get in to flex now is that flex 4 will also be
supporting most of the major smartphones so you're app's will work
virtually everywhere (and look nicer + dev time wayyy down).
can you tell I like it? (+it's got native E4X support)
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Re: [PHP] AJAX and PHP
On Oct 4, 2008, at 7:38 AM, Ashley Sheridan wrote: On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 13:48 +0200, Nitsan Bin-Nun wrote: It depends how much stuff you have in the first div, it there are a lot of images and the user will have to load them again (in case there is no cache) and you care for the traffic those images cost - it would be better to use AJAX. But generally - they both okay, I personally would use reload of the whole page just because of the time it would take me to develop it with ajax ;) HTH, Nitsan On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Alain Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI, i'm currently working on some web application and i would like to know what is the best way to do what i want. basically like all application i have a menu and based on selected item menu i want to display a page (basically 50 % of this new page is DB result/grid. As usual i have 2 divs, one for the menu one for the content of DB to display. i would like to know if it's not better to use AJAX to load the content of the second div (DB result and other stuff) instead to every time load a new page which load menu and content of DB ? what are your experiences on such thing ? thx. -- Alain Windows XP SP3 PostgreSQL 8.2.4 / MS SQL server 2005 Apache 2.2.4 PHP 5.2.4 C# 2005-2008 Also, it depends on who you think will be visiting the site, as an increasing number of people browse the web with devices that have no JavaScript capabilities, so they wouldn't be able to use an Ajax site. Jump into the now. As an increasing number of people browse the web with (handheld?) devices, the support will also increase. However, it also depends on the audience you're trying to reach. IMO, I wouldn't limit your site for the few who a) don't have js enabled or b) have a device that doesn't support any standard web browser features anyway. ~Philip -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] AJAX and PHP
On Mon, 2008-10-06 at 17:09 +0200, Alain Roger wrote: And AFAIK it does not work on linux platform On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: !-- SNIP -- yes, flex is flash for developers; the main language is AS3 and it outputs swf's; flex is basically a program which allows you to use mix of pre-made ui elements classes, css and AS3 to quickly make great RIA's. Yup, but you have to have flash enabled. But some of us don't except for specific sites due to ads being swfs as well. Wolf It can be made to work, but there is a lot of messing about. Not tried it myself, but I have spoken to some people on the Papervision team who have done it. Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] AJAX and PHP
HI, i'm currently working on some web application and i would like to know what is the best way to do what i want. basically like all application i have a menu and based on selected item menu i want to display a page (basically 50 % of this new page is DB result/grid. As usual i have 2 divs, one for the menu one for the content of DB to display. i would like to know if it's not better to use AJAX to load the content of the second div (DB result and other stuff) instead to every time load a new page which load menu and content of DB ? what are your experiences on such thing ? thx. -- Alain Windows XP SP3 PostgreSQL 8.2.4 / MS SQL server 2005 Apache 2.2.4 PHP 5.2.4 C# 2005-2008
Re: [PHP] AJAX and PHP
It depends how much stuff you have in the first div, it there are a lot of images and the user will have to load them again (in case there is no cache) and you care for the traffic those images cost - it would be better to use AJAX. But generally - they both okay, I personally would use reload of the whole page just because of the time it would take me to develop it with ajax ;) HTH, Nitsan On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Alain Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI, i'm currently working on some web application and i would like to know what is the best way to do what i want. basically like all application i have a menu and based on selected item menu i want to display a page (basically 50 % of this new page is DB result/grid. As usual i have 2 divs, one for the menu one for the content of DB to display. i would like to know if it's not better to use AJAX to load the content of the second div (DB result and other stuff) instead to every time load a new page which load menu and content of DB ? what are your experiences on such thing ? thx. -- Alain Windows XP SP3 PostgreSQL 8.2.4 / MS SQL server 2005 Apache 2.2.4 PHP 5.2.4 C# 2005-2008
Re: [PHP] AJAX and PHP
On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 13:48 +0200, Nitsan Bin-Nun wrote: It depends how much stuff you have in the first div, it there are a lot of images and the user will have to load them again (in case there is no cache) and you care for the traffic those images cost - it would be better to use AJAX. But generally - they both okay, I personally would use reload of the whole page just because of the time it would take me to develop it with ajax ;) HTH, Nitsan On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Alain Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI, i'm currently working on some web application and i would like to know what is the best way to do what i want. basically like all application i have a menu and based on selected item menu i want to display a page (basically 50 % of this new page is DB result/grid. As usual i have 2 divs, one for the menu one for the content of DB to display. i would like to know if it's not better to use AJAX to load the content of the second div (DB result and other stuff) instead to every time load a new page which load menu and content of DB ? what are your experiences on such thing ? thx. -- Alain Windows XP SP3 PostgreSQL 8.2.4 / MS SQL server 2005 Apache 2.2.4 PHP 5.2.4 C# 2005-2008 Also, it depends on who you think will be visiting the site, as an increasing number of people browse the web with devices that have no JavaScript capabilities, so they wouldn't be able to use an Ajax site. Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] AJAX and PHP
On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Ashley Sheridan [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 13:48 +0200, Nitsan Bin-Nun wrote: It depends how much stuff you have in the first div, it there are a lot of images and the user will have to load them again (in case there is no cache) and you care for the traffic those images cost - it would be better to use AJAX. But generally - they both okay, I personally would use reload of the whole page just because of the time it would take me to develop it with ajax ;) HTH, Nitsan On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Alain Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI, i'm currently working on some web application and i would like to know what is the best way to do what i want. basically like all application i have a menu and based on selected item menu i want to display a page (basically 50 % of this new page is DB result/grid. As usual i have 2 divs, one for the menu one for the content of DB to display. i would like to know if it's not better to use AJAX to load the content of the second div (DB result and other stuff) instead to every time load a new page which load menu and content of DB ? what are your experiences on such thing ? thx. -- Alain Windows XP SP3 PostgreSQL 8.2.4 / MS SQL server 2005 Apache 2.2.4 PHP 5.2.4 C# 2005-2008 Also, it depends on who you think will be visiting the site, as an increasing number of people browse the web with devices that have no JavaScript capabilities, so they wouldn't be able to use an Ajax site. AFAIK only PDA do no have javascript support at 100%. MacOS, MS OS and LINUX support it.
Re: [PHP] AJAX and PHP
On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 14:41 +0200, Alain Roger wrote: On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Ashley Sheridan [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 13:48 +0200, Nitsan Bin-Nun wrote: It depends how much stuff you have in the first div, it there are a lot of images and the user will have to load them again (in case there is no cache) and you care for the traffic those images cost - it would be better to use AJAX. But generally - they both okay, I personally would use reload of the whole page just because of the time it would take me to develop it with ajax ;) HTH, Nitsan On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Alain Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI, i'm currently working on some web application and i would like to know what is the best way to do what i want. basically like all application i have a menu and based on selected item menu i want to display a page (basically 50 % of this new page is DB result/grid. As usual i have 2 divs, one for the menu one for the content of DB to display. i would like to know if it's not better to use AJAX to load the content of the second div (DB result and other stuff) instead to every time load a new page which load menu and content of DB ? what are your experiences on such thing ? thx. -- Alain Windows XP SP3 PostgreSQL 8.2.4 / MS SQL server 2005 Apache 2.2.4 PHP 5.2.4 C# 2005-2008 Also, it depends on who you think will be visiting the site, as an increasing number of people browse the web with devices that have no JavaScript capabilities, so they wouldn't be able to use an Ajax site. AFAIK only PDA do no have javascript support at 100%. MacOS, MS OS and LINUX support it. I meant mobile devices mainly, which tend not to support scripting. Also, JavaScript can be turned off on a browser, and in some workplaces, proxy servers have been known to strip out script from a page. Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] AJAX and PHP
At 12:10 PM +0200 10/4/08, Alain Roger wrote: HI, i'm currently working on some web application and i would like to know what is the best way to do what i want. basically like all application i have a menu and based on selected item menu i want to display a page (basically 50 % of this new page is DB result/grid. As usual i have 2 divs, one for the menu one for the content of DB to display. i would like to know if it's not better to use AJAX to load the content of the second div (DB result and other stuff) instead to every time load a new page which load menu and content of DB ? what are your experiences on such thing ? thx. -- Alain Alain: The only difference the user experiences between having AJAX, or not, is refreshing the page. If page refresh is not a problem, then don't complicate your life. On the other hand, if page refresh is annoying, or not wanted, then AJAX is you're only solution. But as it has been said before, not all users have javascript turned on and as such AJAX will not work -- after all, it javascript. However, there are way to degrade gracefully from a AJAX site to a normal site. Google javascript graceful degradation for references. Please note, going the AJAX route does not make your coding simpler -- it's a different critter. But it does (with help from jQuery et al) offer exciting new ways to present data. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] AJAX and PHP
Thanks tedd. basically page refreshin is not a problem for me as it in intranet application. however, AJAX offers some really nice thing and 1 from my point of view it's to reduce the network traffic by limiting what should be refresh/downloaded. in that way i think it is interesting. On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 3:52 PM, tedd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 12:10 PM +0200 10/4/08, Alain Roger wrote: HI, i'm currently working on some web application and i would like to know what is the best way to do what i want. basically like all application i have a menu and based on selected item menu i want to display a page (basically 50 % of this new page is DB result/grid. As usual i have 2 divs, one for the menu one for the content of DB to display. i would like to know if it's not better to use AJAX to load the content of the second div (DB result and other stuff) instead to every time load a new page which load menu and content of DB ? what are your experiences on such thing ? thx. -- Alain Alain: The only difference the user experiences between having AJAX, or not, is refreshing the page. If page refresh is not a problem, then don't complicate your life. On the other hand, if page refresh is annoying, or not wanted, then AJAX is you're only solution. But as it has been said before, not all users have javascript turned on and as such AJAX will not work -- after all, it javascript. However, there are way to degrade gracefully from a AJAX site to a normal site. Google javascript graceful degradation for references. Please note, going the AJAX route does not make your coding simpler -- it's a different critter. But it does (with help from jQuery et al) offer exciting new ways to present data. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Alain Windows XP SP3 PostgreSQL 8.2.4 / MS SQL server 2005 Apache 2.2.4 PHP 5.2.4 C# 2005-2008
Re: [PHP] AJAX and PHP
At 5:39 PM +0200 10/4/08, Alain Roger wrote: Thanks tedd. basically page refreshin is not a problem for me as it in intranet application. however, AJAX offers some really nice thing and 1 from my point of view it's to reduce the network traffic by limiting what should be refresh/downloaded. A small clarification as per my understanding -- using AJAX does not limit what should be downloaded -- what needs to be downloaded, needs to be downloaded regardless. However, using AJAX does change how the browser refreshes and cuts down the chatter between the server and client. An AJAX request (GET or POST) is simply done behind the browser's back -- if something needs to be brought forward from the server to the client then it makes no difference if you use AJAX or the standard way. In either case, it requires download time and server contact. If you are not using AJAX, then the browser simply refreshes the entire page with what it has cached and goes to the server for what it hasn't. With AJAX, AJAX simply tells the browser what to refresh and leaves the remainder alone. As I said, using AJAX will cut down on the chatter between the server and client, but that chatter is not reloading everything each time. So, AJAX is not really affecting downloads -- those are determined by the needs of the page and not on the manner of the presentation. Now, one can argue that any contact is downloading and I guess that is technically correct. But I am saying that communication between the server and client is different depending upon what's been cached. It's a bit like my wife calling her sister. If my wife gets the answering service, she leaves a message -- if not they talk. While one can say that a call has been made and received in either case, the amount transmitted is significantly different if her sister answers -- if you get my drift. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] AJAX and PHP
Alain Roger wrote: Thanks tedd. basically page refreshin is not a problem for me as it in intranet application. however, AJAX offers some really nice thing and 1 from my point of view it's to reduce the network traffic by limiting what should be refresh/downloaded. in that way i think it is interesting. On an intranet you've almost certainly got 100Mbit/s with a suitably capable backbone - limiting network traffic is not a concern, IMHO. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] AJAX and PHP
So in this case what is the plus for companies like MS, Google (with Gmail), flicker and so on to use AJAX ? it is on internet, so i guess they have a purpose to do that. mine is to have a responsive and intuitive interface application whatever it is on internet or intranet. On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Per Jessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alain Roger wrote: Thanks tedd. basically page refreshin is not a problem for me as it in intranet application. however, AJAX offers some really nice thing and 1 from my point of view it's to reduce the network traffic by limiting what should be refresh/downloaded. in that way i think it is interesting. On an intranet you've almost certainly got 100Mbit/s with a suitably capable backbone - limiting network traffic is not a concern, IMHO. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Alain Windows XP SP3 PostgreSQL 8.2.4 / MS SQL server 2005 Apache 2.2.4 PHP 5.2.4 C# 2005-2008
Re: [PHP] AJAX and PHP
On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 13:38 +0100, Ashley Sheridan wrote: On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 13:48 +0200, Nitsan Bin-Nun wrote: It depends how much stuff you have in the first div, it there are a lot of images and the user will have to load them again (in case there is no cache) and you care for the traffic those images cost - it would be better to use AJAX. But generally - they both okay, I personally would use reload of the whole page just because of the time it would take me to develop it with ajax ;) HTH, Nitsan On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Alain Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI, i'm currently working on some web application and i would like to know what is the best way to do what i want. basically like all application i have a menu and based on selected item menu i want to display a page (basically 50 % of this new page is DB result/grid. As usual i have 2 divs, one for the menu one for the content of DB to display. i would like to know if it's not better to use AJAX to load the content of the second div (DB result and other stuff) instead to every time load a new page which load menu and content of DB ? what are your experiences on such thing ? thx. -- Alain Windows XP SP3 PostgreSQL 8.2.4 / MS SQL server 2005 Apache 2.2.4 PHP 5.2.4 C# 2005-2008 Also, it depends on who you think will be visiting the site, as an increasing number of people browse the web with devices that have no JavaScript capabilities, so they wouldn't be able to use an Ajax site. So just engineer the AJAX so it falls back to traditional full page reload when JavaScript is disabled. Cheers, Rob. -- http://www.interjinn.com Application and Templating Framework for PHP -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] AJAX and PHP
Alain Roger wrote: So in this case what is the plus for companies like MS, Google (with Gmail), flicker and so on to use AJAX ? For them (and others), it's about the user experience, and ajax is good at enhancing the user experience. it is on internet, so i guess they have a purpose to do that. mine is to have a responsive and intuitive interface application whatever it is on internet or intranet. Now you are changing the rules - they are very different on the internet. My advice - don't use ajax in an attempt to reduce network traffic. Use it to enhance the user experience. Caching is much better at reducing network atraffic anyway. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] AJAX and PHP
Per Jessen wrote: Alain Roger wrote: So in this case what is the plus for companies like MS, Google (with Gmail), flicker and so on to use AJAX ? For them (and others), it's about the user experience, and ajax is good at enhancing the user experience. it is on internet, so i guess they have a purpose to do that. mine is to have a responsive and intuitive interface application whatever it is on internet or intranet. Now you are changing the rules - they are very different on the internet. My advice - don't use ajax in an attempt to reduce network traffic. Use it to enhance the user experience. Caching is much better at reducing network atraffic anyway. /Per Jessen, Zürich If it's the size of the page itself that is large, caching does not help as the HTML is pulled everytime if something is different. As for AJAX, check out http://xajaxproject.org It makes AJAX really easy to code. Thank you, Micah Gersten onShore Networks Internal Developer http://www.onshore.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Problem with special characters - PHP AJAX
Hi all,
I'm writing a simple dictionary with php and ajax. It works perfects with
firefox but not in IE.
Here is the link
http://kllapa.com/fjahalori/test.html
I used alerts in js and find out that in the following function:
function updateMsgOnBrowser(testXML) {
var test = testXML.getElementsByTagName(test)[0];
var message=new Array(20);
var m = new Array(20);
var td = new Array(20);
var i;
for (i=1;i=10;i++){
message[i]=testXML.getElementsByTagName(message+i)[0];
message[i+1]=testXML.getElementsByTagName(message+i+r)[0];
if (message[i]!=null){m[i] = message[i].firstChild.nodeValue;}
else{m[i]=}
if (message[i+1]!=null){m[i+1] =
message[i+1].firstChild.nodeValue;}
else{m[i+1]=}
td[i]= document.getElementById(td+i);
td[i+1]= document.getElementById(td+i+r);
td[i].innerHTML=+m[i];
td[i+1].innerHTML=+m[i+1];
}
}
the line
message[i]=testXML.getElementsByTagName(message+i)[0];
becomes null in IE when tag message contains special character (ë, ç, Ë, Ç,
etc.). Why this works perfect in Firefox?
Any idea what could be the issue??
Thanks in advance
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Re: [PHP] Problem with special characters - PHP AJAX
Are the messages being sent as UTF-8 or something else? Is the server
sending the headers as something different to that listed in the header?
Actually, looking at it, you don't have a valid DOC-TYPE
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fkllapa.com%2Ffjahalori%2Ftest.htmlcharset=%28detect+automatically%29doctype=Inlinegroup=0,
nor character Encoding set.
It might be something else, but I haven't played with enough AJAX to
debug the javascript.
Michael Kubler
*G*rey *P*hoenix *P*roductions http://www.greyphoenix.biz
bperquku wrote:
Hi all,
I'm writing a simple dictionary with php and ajax. It works perfects with
firefox but not in IE.
Here is the link
http://kllapa.com/fjahalori/test.html
I used alerts in js and find out that in the following function:
function updateMsgOnBrowser(testXML) {
var test = testXML.getElementsByTagName(test)[0];
var message=new Array(20);
var m = new Array(20);
var td = new Array(20);
var i;
for (i=1;i=10;i++){
message[i]=testXML.getElementsByTagName(message+i)[0];
message[i+1]=testXML.getElementsByTagName(message+i+r)[0];
if (message[i]!=null){m[i] = message[i].firstChild.nodeValue;}
else{m[i]=}
if (message[i+1]!=null){m[i+1] =
message[i+1].firstChild.nodeValue;}
else{m[i+1]=}
td[i]= document.getElementById(td+i);
td[i+1]= document.getElementById(td+i+r);
td[i].innerHTML=+m[i];
td[i+1].innerHTML=+m[i+1];
}
}
the line
message[i]=testXML.getElementsByTagName(message+i)[0];
becomes null in IE when tag message contains special character (ë, ç, Ë, Ç,
etc.). Why this works perfect in Firefox?
Any idea what could be the issue??
Thanks in advance
Re: [PHP] Problem with special characters - PHP AJAX
On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 19:35 +0930, Michael Kubler wrote: Are the messages being sent as UTF-8 or something else? Is the server sending the headers as something different to that listed in the header? Actually, looking at it, you don't have a valid DOC-TYPE http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fkllapa.com%2Ffjahalori%2Ftest.htmlcharset=%28detect+automatically%29doctype=Inlinegroup=0, nor character Encoding set. Yeah you might want to check out HTML Entities (http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.htmlentities.php) - great help in encoding. Then set a doc type too. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php, ajax and international application
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 07:55 +0200, Alain Roger wrote: Hi, Till now, i'm used to have a php file (for each language) to store all text labels for my international application. i tried with Ajax to improve it but it seems not so flexible at it promised. my purpose was to limit the transfer data and especially to not load too much the server with not important calculation as localization of application. therefore, i would like to know what do you do to have an international application ? 1. do you use JSON : 1 javascript file for each language and for each module. Code is not secured and everybody can read it. Usually you use one language JavaScript file for each language. And the JavaScript code itself is language neutral. 2. do you use PHP like i wrote above. PHP would also use the language file. You could put all your language stuff in a PHP file and have a script that can convert it to a JavaScript loadable file. That way your maintenance occurs in one location, but you can benefit from having the JS pre-created. 3. you use another method I would be glad to here from you the pros and cons of your experiences. I've not done a lot with JavaScript and multilingualism. At least not in a way that was overly important. With respect to content, I do use separate content files. My InterJinn framework when it builds the pages from the templates will grab template lang/X and fall back on template X if the language specific version doesn't exist. This is automatic when multilingual is enabled for a project. Then it's just a case of having language strings defined for stuff like forms and error messages. here's a site I recently launched: http://www.expertpanel.ca The mapping of links to language specific content is all done at compile time. The only run-time feature of the site is the random banner image at the top and any forms. If *I* was to have a need for JavaScript like you mention, I would build the language files from a PHP master file automatically when building the site. Cheers, Rob. -- http://www.interjinn.com Application and Templating Framework for PHP -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] AJAX and PHP
Hi, i'm playing around with AJAX and PHP to create something like a small desktop application. basically the first step is to log in the system. for that i have a log-in form where users can choose the interface language. here is my problem : when the log-in form runs, it is in English. user can click on some arrow to open another DIV and display all other languages available. a click on a particular flag, will call the PHP page where the log-in form (login field + password field) are stored with dynamic language interface. however, i make no sense for the title of this form to call a PHP page where will be just 1 dynamic text (changing on flag choice). so if you understand well, i have 2 divs (1 for form title, 1 for log-in form itself). and i load thanks AJAX php code into divs. my problem is that i do not want to write a PHP page just for 1 label... it makes sense for a complete form but not for a simple text line or label. So how can i do that without refreshing page. using AJAX and PHP only ? i guess you already faced such situation so i would really appreciate your help. thanks a lot, -- Alain Windows XP SP2 PostgreSQL 8.2.4 / MS SQL server 2005 Apache 2.2.4 PHP 5.2.4 C# 2005-2008
Re: [PHP] AJAX and PHP
Quoting Alain Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, i'm playing around with AJAX and PHP to create something like a small desktop application. basically the first step is to log in the system. for that i have a log-in form where users can choose the interface language. here is my problem : when the log-in form runs, it is in English. user can click on some arrow to open another DIV and display all other languages available. a click on a particular flag, will call the PHP page where the log-in form (login field + password field) are stored with dynamic language interface. however, i make no sense for the title of this form to call a PHP page where will be just 1 dynamic text (changing on flag choice). so if you understand well, i have 2 divs (1 for form title, 1 for log-in form itself). and i load thanks AJAX php code into divs. my problem is that i do not want to write a PHP page just for 1 label... it makes sense for a complete form but not for a simple text line or label. So how can i do that without refreshing page. using AJAX and PHP only ? i guess you already faced such situation so i would really appreciate your help. thanks a lot, -- Alain Making an Ajax request for one little label maybe a bit overkill. As i understand you request the whole form through an Ajax request. And display this to the user? And every language generates a new form? Why not just create the form dynamically with javascript and load the data from PHP. So the form can stay the same for all calls. You just fill it with data depending on the language selected. You can fill the form for instance by sending a JSON encoded object from PHP to javascript. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] AJAX and PHP
you understood right. basically my problem is that the layout avoid it. here is something like my layout : div#0 div#1Lanague (label) : img flag img arrow to show all languages from div#2/div#1 div#2 all flags/div#2 div#3 login field + pwd field + submit button/div#3 /div#0 till now i only use AJAX to refresh the content of div#3 but it does not change the label from div#1 when user selects another language from div#2. if i place the whole form into a PHP i face several questions : - how the ajax will reload this PHP page (reloading itself) in the parent control div#0 ? - when user will click on submit button, where will be loaded the content return of checking if log+pwd are correct ? - how to redirect to another PHP page, when user click on submit button ? the redirection will happen only in the content div, so only in div#0 and not into the browser :-( Al. On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Thijs Lensselink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Alain Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, i'm playing around with AJAX and PHP to create something like a small desktop application. basically the first step is to log in the system. for that i have a log-in form where users can choose the interface language. here is my problem : when the log-in form runs, it is in English. user can click on some arrow to open another DIV and display all other languages available. a click on a particular flag, will call the PHP page where the log-in form (login field + password field) are stored with dynamic language interface. however, i make no sense for the title of this form to call a PHP page where will be just 1 dynamic text (changing on flag choice). so if you understand well, i have 2 divs (1 for form title, 1 for log-in form itself). and i load thanks AJAX php code into divs. my problem is that i do not want to write a PHP page just for 1 label... it makes sense for a complete form but not for a simple text line or label. So how can i do that without refreshing page. using AJAX and PHP only ? i guess you already faced such situation so i would really appreciate your help. thanks a lot, -- Alain Making an Ajax request for one little label maybe a bit overkill. As i understand you request the whole form through an Ajax request. And display this to the user? And every language generates a new form? Why not just create the form dynamically with javascript and load the data from PHP. So the form can stay the same for all calls. You just fill it with data depending on the language selected. You can fill the form for instance by sending a JSON encoded object from PHP to javascript. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Alain Windows XP SP2 PostgreSQL 8.2.4 / MS SQL server 2005 Apache 2.2.4 PHP 5.2.4 C# 2005-2008
Re: [PHP] AJAX and PHP
in fact i meant by redirecting the following thing : - if user wrote a correct pwd and login, the system should redirect [using header(Location ] syntax to launch the application. but if i use such syntax it will be redirected only into the div#0, and not in the browser itslef. is it clearer now ? On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Thijs Lensselink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Alain Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: you understood right. basically my problem is that the layout avoid it. here is something like my layout : div#0 div#1Lanague (label) : img flag img arrow to show all languages from div#2/div#1 div#2 all flags/div#2 div#3 login field + pwd field + submit button/div#3 /div#0 till now i only use AJAX to refresh the content of div#3 but it does not change the label from div#1 when user selects another language from div#2. Well it looks like you need a extra Ajax call to the server. Click a language flag sends a request to the server. The server responds with an JSON object. Containing the content for div#2. With javascript you can update the contents of div#2 if i place the whole form into a PHP i face several questions : - how the ajax will reload this PHP page (reloading itself) in the parent control div#0 ? If you would like to reload the whole of div#0 You could send and JSON object from PHP to javascript. And let javascript generate the div structure and update the DOM. - when user will click on submit button, where will be loaded the content return of checking if log+pwd are correct ? When a user logs in a Ajax request is send to the server. the server responds with an JSON object containing the error message. With javascript you could update the contents of div#3 to display a message. - how to redirect to another PHP page, when user click on submit button ? the redirection will happen only in the content div, so only in div#0 and not into the browser :-( I have a hard time understanding this last issue. What exactly do you mean by redirecting to another PHP page? Al. On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Thijs Lensselink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Alain Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, i'm playing around with AJAX and PHP to create something like a small desktop application. basically the first step is to log in the system. for that i have a log-in form where users can choose the interface language. here is my problem : when the log-in form runs, it is in English. user can click on some arrow to open another DIV and display all other languages available. a click on a particular flag, will call the PHP page where the log-in form (login field + password field) are stored with dynamic language interface. however, i make no sense for the title of this form to call a PHP page where will be just 1 dynamic text (changing on flag choice). so if you understand well, i have 2 divs (1 for form title, 1 for log-in form itself). and i load thanks AJAX php code into divs. my problem is that i do not want to write a PHP page just for 1 label... it makes sense for a complete form but not for a simple text line or label. So how can i do that without refreshing page. using AJAX and PHP only ? i guess you already faced such situation so i would really appreciate your help. thanks a lot, -- Alain Making an Ajax request for one little label maybe a bit overkill. As i understand you request the whole form through an Ajax request. And display this to the user? And every language generates a new form? Why not just create the form dynamically with javascript and load the data from PHP. So the form can stay the same for all calls. You just fill it with data depending on the language selected. You can fill the form for instance by sending a JSON encoded object from PHP to javascript. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Alain Windows XP SP2 PostgreSQL 8.2.4 / MS SQL server 2005 Apache 2.2.4 PHP 5.2.4 C# 2005-2008 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Alain Windows XP SP2 PostgreSQL 8.2.4 / MS SQL server 2005 Apache 2.2.4 PHP 5.2.4 C# 2005-2008
Re: [PHP] AJAX and PHP
Quoting Alain Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: in fact i meant by redirecting the following thing : - if user wrote a correct pwd and login, the system should redirect [using header(Location ] syntax to launch the application. but if i use such syntax it will be redirected only into the div#0, and not in the browser itslef. is it clearer now ? It's crystal clear :) I guess you could do it in two ways. Firstly without a redirect. You could just use javascript and CSS to show some sort of error message. Reload the form in the div. And give the user another try to login. If you really want a reload. You have to do it with javascript. You could let PHP send back a status to javascript. And based on that. Either load a div with content. Or do a document.location = ''; Hope it helps. On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Thijs Lensselink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Alain Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: you understood right. basically my problem is that the layout avoid it. here is something like my layout : div#0 div#1Lanague (label) : img flag img arrow to show all languages from div#2/div#1 div#2 all flags/div#2 div#3 login field + pwd field + submit button/div#3 /div#0 till now i only use AJAX to refresh the content of div#3 but it does not change the label from div#1 when user selects another language from div#2. Well it looks like you need a extra Ajax call to the server. Click a language flag sends a request to the server. The server responds with an JSON object. Containing the content for div#2. With javascript you can update the contents of div#2 if i place the whole form into a PHP i face several questions : - how the ajax will reload this PHP page (reloading itself) in the parent control div#0 ? If you would like to reload the whole of div#0 You could send and JSON object from PHP to javascript. And let javascript generate the div structure and update the DOM. - when user will click on submit button, where will be loaded the content return of checking if log+pwd are correct ? When a user logs in a Ajax request is send to the server. the server responds with an JSON object containing the error message. With javascript you could update the contents of div#3 to display a message. - how to redirect to another PHP page, when user click on submit button ? the redirection will happen only in the content div, so only in div#0 and not into the browser :-( I have a hard time understanding this last issue. What exactly do you mean by redirecting to another PHP page? Al. On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Thijs Lensselink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Alain Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, i'm playing around with AJAX and PHP to create something like a small desktop application. basically the first step is to log in the system. for that i have a log-in form where users can choose the interface language. here is my problem : when the log-in form runs, it is in English. user can click on some arrow to open another DIV and display all other languages available. a click on a particular flag, will call the PHP page where the log-in form (login field + password field) are stored with dynamic language interface. however, i make no sense for the title of this form to call a PHP page where will be just 1 dynamic text (changing on flag choice). so if you understand well, i have 2 divs (1 for form title, 1 for log-in form itself). and i load thanks AJAX php code into divs. my problem is that i do not want to write a PHP page just for 1 label... it makes sense for a complete form but not for a simple text line or label. So how can i do that without refreshing page. using AJAX and PHP only ? i guess you already faced such situation so i would really appreciate your help. thanks a lot, -- Alain Making an Ajax request for one little label maybe a bit overkill. As i understand you request the whole form through an Ajax request. And display this to the user? And every language generates a new form? Why not just create the form dynamically with javascript and load the data from PHP. So the form can stay the same for all calls. You just fill it with data depending on the language selected. You can fill the form for instance by sending a JSON encoded object from PHP to javascript. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Alain Windows XP SP2 PostgreSQL 8.2.4 / MS SQL server 2005 Apache 2.2.4 PHP 5.2.4 C# 2005-2008 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Alain Windows XP SP2 PostgreSQL 8.2.4 / MS SQL server 2005 Apache 2.2.4 PHP 5.2.4 C# 2005-2008 -- PHP General Mailing List
Re: [PHP] AJAX and PHP
Hi Alain, You can create a mini-db with XML, that contains translations for each of the words you need (if there are 10 words, 50 langs, you got 500 records.. small and useful). HTH, Nitsan On 21/04/2008, Alain Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, i'm playing around with AJAX and PHP to create something like a small desktop application. basically the first step is to log in the system. for that i have a log-in form where users can choose the interface language. here is my problem : when the log-in form runs, it is in English. user can click on some arrow to open another DIV and display all other languages available. a click on a particular flag, will call the PHP page where the log-in form (login field + password field) are stored with dynamic language interface. however, i make no sense for the title of this form to call a PHP page where will be just 1 dynamic text (changing on flag choice). so if you understand well, i have 2 divs (1 for form title, 1 for log-in form itself). and i load thanks AJAX php code into divs. my problem is that i do not want to write a PHP page just for 1 label... it makes sense for a complete form but not for a simple text line or label. So how can i do that without refreshing page. using AJAX and PHP only ? i guess you already faced such situation so i would really appreciate your help. thanks a lot, -- Alain Windows XP SP2 PostgreSQL 8.2.4 / MS SQL server 2005 Apache 2.2.4 PHP 5.2.4 C# 2005-2008
Re: [PHP] AJAX and PHP
Quoting Alain Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: you understood right. basically my problem is that the layout avoid it. here is something like my layout : div#0 div#1Lanague (label) : img flag img arrow to show all languages from div#2/div#1 div#2 all flags/div#2 div#3 login field + pwd field + submit button/div#3 /div#0 till now i only use AJAX to refresh the content of div#3 but it does not change the label from div#1 when user selects another language from div#2. Well it looks like you need a extra Ajax call to the server. Click a language flag sends a request to the server. The server responds with an JSON object. Containing the content for div#2. With javascript you can update the contents of div#2 if i place the whole form into a PHP i face several questions : - how the ajax will reload this PHP page (reloading itself) in the parent control div#0 ? If you would like to reload the whole of div#0 You could send and JSON object from PHP to javascript. And let javascript generate the div structure and update the DOM. - when user will click on submit button, where will be loaded the content return of checking if log+pwd are correct ? When a user logs in a Ajax request is send to the server. the server responds with an JSON object containing the error message. With javascript you could update the contents of div#3 to display a message. - how to redirect to another PHP page, when user click on submit button ? the redirection will happen only in the content div, so only in div#0 and not into the browser :-( I have a hard time understanding this last issue. What exactly do you mean by redirecting to another PHP page? Al. On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Thijs Lensselink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Alain Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, i'm playing around with AJAX and PHP to create something like a small desktop application. basically the first step is to log in the system. for that i have a log-in form where users can choose the interface language. here is my problem : when the log-in form runs, it is in English. user can click on some arrow to open another DIV and display all other languages available. a click on a particular flag, will call the PHP page where the log-in form (login field + password field) are stored with dynamic language interface. however, i make no sense for the title of this form to call a PHP page where will be just 1 dynamic text (changing on flag choice). so if you understand well, i have 2 divs (1 for form title, 1 for log-in form itself). and i load thanks AJAX php code into divs. my problem is that i do not want to write a PHP page just for 1 label... it makes sense for a complete form but not for a simple text line or label. So how can i do that without refreshing page. using AJAX and PHP only ? i guess you already faced such situation so i would really appreciate your help. thanks a lot, -- Alain Making an Ajax request for one little label maybe a bit overkill. As i understand you request the whole form through an Ajax request. And display this to the user? And every language generates a new form? Why not just create the form dynamically with javascript and load the data from PHP. So the form can stay the same for all calls. You just fill it with data depending on the language selected. You can fill the form for instance by sending a JSON encoded object from PHP to javascript. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Alain Windows XP SP2 PostgreSQL 8.2.4 / MS SQL server 2005 Apache 2.2.4 PHP 5.2.4 C# 2005-2008 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] php, ajax and international application
Hi, Till now, i'm used to have a php file (for each language) to store all text labels for my international application. i tried with Ajax to improve it but it seems not so flexible at it promised. my purpose was to limit the transfer data and especially to not load too much the server with not important calculation as localization of application. therefore, i would like to know what do you do to have an international application ? 1. do you use JSON : 1 javascript file for each language and for each module. Code is not secured and everybody can read it. 2. do you use PHP like i wrote above. 3. you use another method I would be glad to here from you the pros and cons of your experiences. thx. -- Alain Windows XP SP2 PostgreSQL 8.2.4 / MS SQL server 2005 Apache 2.2.4 PHP 5.2.4 C# 2005-2008
Re: [PHP] PHP Ajax progress bar
At 11:24 AM +0800 3/12/08, Shelley wrote: Hi all, I'm searching some file upload progress bar code. But no good result was found. :( So is there anybody please be kind enough to show some code here? Great thanks. -- Regard, Shelley (http://phparch.cn) Shelley: Here's my solution: http://webbytedd.com/bb/wait/ However, if you want php to communicate with ajax, then that can be done like so: http://webbytedd.com/b/timed-php/ But, you will need to figure out how much of a file has been uploaded at each interval and I don't know how to do that. However, if it's a batch of files, then that certainly could be done between each file. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Ajax progress bar
Quoting Shelley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, I'm searching some file upload progress bar code. But no good result was found. :( So is there anybody please be kind enough to show some code here? Great thanks. -- Regard, Shelley (http://phparch.cn) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php You can try searching the archives. Rasmus had an example a long time ago. Although it requires APC to be installed. Maybe it's interesting. Found it: Example : http://progphp.com/upload.php Source : http://progphp.com/upload.phps -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] PHP Ajax progress bar
I haven't' tried this yet ... so I would appreciate your feedback. -Original Message- From: Thijs Lensselink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:28 AM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Ajax progress bar Quoting Shelley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, I'm searching some file upload progress bar code. But no good result was found. :( So is there anybody please be kind enough to show some code here? Great thanks. -- Regard, Shelley (http://phparch.cn) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php You can try searching the archives. Rasmus had an example a long time ago. Although it requires APC to be installed. Maybe it's interesting. Found it: Example : http://progphp.com/upload.php Source : http://progphp.com/upload.phps -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] PHP Ajax progress bar
Quoting Mr Webber [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I haven't' tried this yet ... so I would appreciate your feedback. -Original Message- From: Thijs Lensselink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:28 AM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Ajax progress bar Quoting Shelley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, I'm searching some file upload progress bar code. But no good result was found. :( So is there anybody please be kind enough to show some code here? Great thanks. -- Regard, Shelley (http://phparch.cn) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php You can try searching the archives. Rasmus had an example a long time ago. Although it requires APC to be installed. Maybe it's interesting. Found it: Example : http://progphp.com/upload.php Source : http://progphp.com/upload.phps -- Pls don't top post. If you want to know if it works. Go ahead! Copy paste the code and give it a try. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Ajax progress bar
Thijs Lensselink 写道: Quoting Mr Webber [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I haven't' tried this yet ... so I would appreciate your feedback. -Original Message- From: Thijs Lensselink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:28 AM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Ajax progress bar Quoting Shelley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, I'm searching some file upload progress bar code. But no good result was found. :( So is there anybody please be kind enough to show some code here? Great thanks. -- Regard, Shelley (http://phparch.cn) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php You can try searching the archives. Rasmus had an example a long time ago. Although it requires APC to be installed. Maybe it's interesting. Found it: Example : http://progphp.com/upload.php Source : http://progphp.com/upload.phps -- Pls don't top post. If you want to know if it works. Go ahead! Copy paste the code and give it a try. I don't think it works. I tried. The screen always said 0%, 0 of 0 byte until the file is uploaded. Is that what you mean progress bar? -- Regards, Shelley (http://phparch.cn) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Ajax progress bar
Quoting Shelley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thijs Lensselink 写道: Quoting Mr Webber [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I haven't' tried this yet ... so I would appreciate your feedback. -Original Message- From: Thijs Lensselink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:28 AM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Ajax progress bar Quoting Shelley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, I'm searching some file upload progress bar code. But no good result was found. :( So is there anybody please be kind enough to show some code here? Great thanks. -- Regard, Shelley (http://phparch.cn) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php You can try searching the archives. Rasmus had an example a long time ago. Although it requires APC to be installed. Maybe it's interesting. Found it: Example : http://progphp.com/upload.php Source : http://progphp.com/upload.phps -- Pls don't top post. If you want to know if it works. Go ahead! Copy paste the code and give it a try. I don't think it works. I tried. The screen always said 0%, 0 of 0 byte until the file is uploaded. Is that what you mean progress bar? -- Regards, Shelley (http://phparch.cn) Do you have all the yui files? and APC enabled? I tried it some time ago and it worked. But i did have to set apc.rfc1867 = on in php.ini to make it work. Forgot to mention that one. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Ajax progress bar
On Mar 12, 2008, at 5:02 AM, Thijs Lensselink wrote: Thijs Lensselink 写道: How do you pronounce your name? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Ajax progress bar
Quoting Philip Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mar 12, 2008, at 5:02 AM, Thijs Lensselink wrote: Thijs Lensselink 写道: How do you pronounce your name? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Well.. how to explain this one... thijs : T + [ice] That's the best i can do :) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Ajax progress bar
On Mar 12, 2008, at 9:52 AM, Thijs Lensselink wrote: Quoting Philip Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mar 12, 2008, at 5:02 AM, Thijs Lensselink wrote: Thijs Lensselink 写道: How do you pronounce your name? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Well.. how to explain this one... thijs : T + [ice] That's the best i can do :) Which is different than the famous rapper/actor... hijs-t : [ice] + T Hehehe =D -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Ajax progress bar
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Philip Thompson
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On Mar 12, 2008, at 9:52 AM, Thijs Lensselink wrote:
Quoting Philip Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
How do you pronounce your name?
Well.. how to explain this one...
thijs : T + [ice]
Which is different than the famous rapper/actor...
hijs-t : [ice] + T
HA!
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Quoting Daniel Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Philip Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mar 12, 2008, at 9:52 AM, Thijs Lensselink wrote:
Quoting Philip Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
How do you pronounce your name?
Well.. how to explain this one...
thijs : T + [ice]
Which is different than the famous rapper/actor...
hijs-t : [ice] + T
HA!
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Re: [PHP] PHP Ajax progress bar
Quoting Shelley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't think it works. I tried. The screen always said 0%, 0 of 0 byte until the file is uploaded. Is that what you mean progress bar? -- Regards, Shelley (http://phparch.cn) It work fine. And that's what we meant by progress bar. -- Roger --- Sign Up for free Email at http://ureg.home.net.my/ --- -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: PHP Ajax progress bar
Hello, on 03/12/2008 12:24 AM Shelley said the following: Hi all, I'm searching some file upload progress bar code. But no good result was found. :( So is there anybody please be kind enough to show some code here? You may want to take a look at this forms generation and validation class that comes with a plug-in to do precisely that. Check the test_upload_progress.php example script. http://www.phpclasses.org/formsgeneration Here is a live example page so you can see it in action: http://www.meta-language.net/forms-examples.html?example=test_upload_progress You can also watch this tutorial video to learn more about this plug-in: http://www.phpclasses.org/browse/video/1/package/1/section/plugin-upload-meter.html You may also want to read this blog article about the subject: http://www.phpclasses.org/blog/post/61-File-upload-progress-meter-for-PHP-4-at-last.html -- Regards, Manuel Lemos PHP professionals looking for PHP jobs http://www.phpclasses.org/professionals/ PHP Classes - Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP http://www.phpclasses.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] PHP Ajax progress bar
Hi all, I'm searching some file upload progress bar code. But no good result was found. :( So is there anybody please be kind enough to show some code here? Great thanks. -- Regard, Shelley (http://phparch.cn) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Ajax progress bar
Shelley, What code have you tried and what were your results? What about searches on google or the archives here? Wolf Shelley wrote: Hi all, I'm searching some file upload progress bar code. But no good result was found. :( So is there anybody please be kind enough to show some code here? Great thanks. -- Regard, Shelley (http://phparch.cn) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Ajax progress bar
As a qualified PHP Engineer , I'm certain you have written some code that is failing and you need a little help massaging, by all means post it and we'll gladly take a look and see if we can help facilitate its use. Wolf Shelley wrote: Hi all, I'm searching some file upload progress bar code. But no good result was found. :( So is there anybody please be kind enough to show some code here? Great thanks. -- Regard, Shelley (http://phparch.cn) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] PHP: Ajax send()
Hi!!
Im trying to sent data to and php with Ajax, so..
this is what im sending_url= table='historia'$'='$''$'string'$'';
then i do:
_url = _url.substring(0,_url.length-1) //quita el de sobra al final
var ajax = nuevoAjax();
ajax.open(POST, atrapalo_x.php, true);
ajax.setRequestHeader(Content-Type,
aplication/x-www-form-urlencoded);
ajax.send(_url);
ajax.onreadystatechange = function()
{
if(ajax.readyState == 4)
{
alert(ajax.responseText)
.
.
.
..
and in the php i do:
$datafield=explode($,str_replace(\',',$_POST[table]));
$main_table=.str_replace(',,$datafield[0]).;
$main_table=strtolower($main_table);
but when i do and echo $datafield[0] or echo $main_table
it returns nothing... just blank
Re: [PHP] PHP: Ajax send()
2008. 02. 22, péntek keltezéssel 12.03-kor germana ezt írta:
Hi!!
Im trying to sent data to and php with Ajax, so..
this is what im sending_url= table='historia'$'='$''$'string'$'';
then i do:
_url = _url.substring(0,_url.length-1) //quita el de sobra al final
var ajax = nuevoAjax();
ajax.open(POST, atrapalo_x.php, true);
ajax.setRequestHeader(Content-Type,
aplication/x-www-form-urlencoded);
ajax.send(_url);
ajax.onreadystatechange = function()
{
if(ajax.readyState == 4)
{
alert(ajax.responseText)
.
.
.
..
and in the php i do:
$datafield=explode($,str_replace(\',',$_POST[table]));
$main_table=.str_replace(',,$datafield[0]).;
$main_table=strtolower($main_table);
but when i do and echo $datafield[0] or echo $main_table
it returns nothing... just blank
and if you var_dump($_POST) what does it show?
greets
Zoltán Németh
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Re: [PHP] PHP: Ajax send()
please reply to the list also...
2008. 02. 22, péntek keltezéssel 15.25-kor germana ezt írta:
nuevoAjax() is the name of the ajax object :P in spanish
OK, but that does not tell me anything about what kind of ajax library
you're using... anyway, maybe it's better to ask on an ajax list because
this is clearly not a php problem
greets
Zoltán Németh
On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 20:54 +0100, Zoltán Németh wrote:
2008. 02. 22, péntek keltezéssel 14.32-kor germana ezt írta:
So... i was checking my localhost with wireshark (a sniffer) and i
found that the DATA is send after the POST ¿¿¿ i dont understand
why the data is not send completly.
the problem must be in your ajax library... I don't know what kind of
ajax scripts you use, I've never seen 'nuevoAjax' before, but its
clearly a problem with your javascript, not php. correctly sent requests
contain the post data, so $_POST is not empty if you send anything
greets
Zoltán Németh
if i do var_dump($_POST) is: array(0){}
On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 17:41 +0100, Zoltán Németh wrote:
2008. 02. 22, péntek keltezéssel 12.03-kor germana ezt írta:
Hi!!
Im trying to sent data to and php with Ajax, so..
this is what im sending_url= table='historia'$'='$''$'string'$'';
then i do:
_url = _url.substring(0,_url.length-1) //quita el de sobra al final
var ajax = nuevoAjax();
ajax.open(POST, atrapalo_x.php, true);
ajax.setRequestHeader(Content-Type,
aplication/x-www-form-urlencoded);
ajax.send(_url);
ajax.onreadystatechange = function()
{
if(ajax.readyState == 4)
{
alert(ajax.responseText)
.
.
.
..
and in the php i do:
$datafield=explode($,str_replace(\',',$_POST[table]));
$main_table=.str_replace(',,$datafield[0]).;
$main_table=strtolower($main_table);
but when i do and echo $datafield[0] or echo $main_table
it returns nothing... just blank
and if you var_dump($_POST) what does it show?
greets
Zoltán Németh
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Re: [PHP] PHP: Ajax send()
2008. 02. 22, péntek keltezéssel 14.32-kor germana ezt írta:
So... i was checking my localhost with wireshark (a sniffer) and i
found that the DATA is send after the POST ¿¿¿ i dont understand
why the data is not send completly.
the problem must be in your ajax library... I don't know what kind of
ajax scripts you use, I've never seen 'nuevoAjax' before, but its
clearly a problem with your javascript, not php. correctly sent requests
contain the post data, so $_POST is not empty if you send anything
greets
Zoltán Németh
if i do var_dump($_POST) is: array(0){}
On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 17:41 +0100, Zoltán Németh wrote:
2008. 02. 22, péntek keltezéssel 12.03-kor germana ezt írta:
Hi!!
Im trying to sent data to and php with Ajax, so..
this is what im sending_url= table='historia'$'='$''$'string'$'';
then i do:
_url = _url.substring(0,_url.length-1) //quita el de sobra al final
var ajax = nuevoAjax();
ajax.open(POST, atrapalo_x.php, true);
ajax.setRequestHeader(Content-Type,
aplication/x-www-form-urlencoded);
ajax.send(_url);
ajax.onreadystatechange = function()
{
if(ajax.readyState == 4)
{
alert(ajax.responseText)
.
.
.
..
and in the php i do:
$datafield=explode($,str_replace(\',',$_POST[table]));
$main_table=.str_replace(',,$datafield[0]).;
$main_table=strtolower($main_table);
but when i do and echo $datafield[0] or echo $main_table
it returns nothing... just blank
and if you var_dump($_POST) what does it show?
greets
Zoltán Németh
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[PHP] Ajax, an HTML form being saved in mySQL
I am trying to bring my programming skills together ... but I have hit a
road block.
I am writing my own ledger (accounting) software.
I am needing help to pass 2 variables generated by Ajax through my form
to be saved in a mySQL table.
A sample of what ledger_select_account.js outputs is as follows --- the
PHP script it accesses queries a table and then echo's this to the
screen.
SELECT name=account_reference
OPTION value =1PayPal (REF: 1)/OPTION
OPTION value =3Receiver General (REF: 3)/OPTION
OPTION value =2TD Canada Trust (REF: 2)/OPTION
/SELECT
The source code for ledger_select_account.js is:
var xmlHttp
function showCustomer(str)
{
xmlHttp=GetXmlHttpObject();
if (xmlHttp==null)
{
alert (Your browser does not support AJAX!);
return;
}
var url=ledger_account_details.php;
url=url+?account_source=+str;
url=url+sid=+Math.random();
xmlHttp.onreadystatechange=stateChanged;
xmlHttp.open(GET,url,true);
xmlHttp.send(null);
}
function stateChanged () {
if (xmlHttp.readyState == 4) {
document.getElementById(txtHint).innerHTML=xmlHttp.responseText;
} else {
//alert(xmlHttp.readyState)
}
}
function GetXmlHttpObject()
{
var xmlHttp=null;
try
{
// Firefox, Opera 8.0+, Safari
xmlHttp=new XMLHttpRequest();
}
catch (e)
{
// Internet Explorer
try
{
xmlHttp=new ActiveXObject(Msxml2.XMLHTTP);
}
catch (e)
{
xmlHttp=new ActiveXObject(Microsoft.XMLHTTP);
}
}
return xmlHttp;
}
A sample of what ledger_select_gifi.js outputs is as follows --- the PHP
script it accesses queries a table and then echo's this to the screen.
SELECT NAME=gifi_reference
OPTION VALUE=9Bank Charges (8715: Bank Charges)/OPTION
OPTION VALUE=10Benevolent Fund (9270: Other Expenses)/OPTION
OPTION VALUE=13Computer Equipment / Software (1774: Computer
Equipment / Software)/OPTION
OPTION VALUE=4Office Expenses (8811: Office stationery and
supplies)/OPTION
OPTION VALUE=12Our Advertising Campaign Expenses (8521:
Advertising)/OPTION
OPTION VALUE=8Photocopying (8810: Photocopying)/OPTION
OPTION VALUE=7Postage (9275: Delivery, Freight and Express)/OPTION
OPTION VALUE=5Telephone Expenses (9225: Telephone and
Communications)/OPTION
OPTION VALUE=6Web Site Hosting (9152: Internet)/OPTION
/SELECT
The source code for ledger_select_gifi.js is:
var xmlHttp2
function showGIFI(str)
{
xmlHttp2=GetXmlHttpObject();
if (xmlHttp2==null)
{
alert (Your browser does not support AJAX!);
return;
}
var url=ledger_gifi_details.php;
url=url+?transaction_type=+str;
url=url+sid=+Math.random();
xmlHttp2.onreadystatechange=stateChanged2;
xmlHttp2.open(GET,url,true);
xmlHttp2.send(null);
}
function stateChanged2 () {
if (xmlHttp2.readyState == 4) {
document.getElementById(txtGIFI).innerHTML=xmlHttp2.responseText;
} else {
//alert(xmlHttp.readyState)
}
}
function GetXmlHttpObject()
{
var xmlHttp=null;
try
{
// Firefox, Opera 8.0+, Safari
xmlHttp=new XMLHttpRequest();
}
catch (e)
{
// Internet Explorer
try
{
xmlHttp=new ActiveXObject(Msxml2.XMLHTTP);
}
catch (e)
{
xmlHttp=new ActiveXObject(Microsoft.XMLHTTP);
}
}
return xmlHttp;
}
The form which submits the ledger entry is this:
head
script src=ledger_select_account.js/script
script src=ledger_select_gifi.js/script
/head
center
table
trtd width=800
font face=times new roman
centeruNew Ledger Entry/u/centerp
center
table
form method=POST action=index.php?request=receive_ledger_entry_record
trtd align=rightfont face=times new romanName Record Source:/td
td
SELECT NAME=account_source onchange=showCustomer(this.value)
OPTION VALUE=0MAKE YOUR SELECTION/OPTION
OPTION VALUE=1Member Services Account/OPTION
OPTION VALUE=2Ledger Account/OPTION
OPTION VALUE=3Supplier/OPTION
OPTION VALUE=4Advertiser Account/OPTION
/SELECT
/td/tr
trtd align=rightfont face=times new romanAccount Reference:/td
td
div id=txtHintbAccount holder information will be listed here./b/div
/td/tr
trtd align=rightfont face=times new romanTransaction Type:/td
td
SELECT NAME=transaction_type onchange=showGIFI(this.value)
OPTION VALUE=0MAKE YOUR SELECTION/OPTION
OPTION VALUE=1Donation/OPTION
OPTION VALUE=2Expense/OPTION
OPTION VALUE=3Income/OPTION
OPTION VALUE=4PayPal Funds Transfer/OPTION
OPTION VALUE=5Payroll/OPTION
/SELECT
/td/tr
trtd align=rightfont face=times new romanGIFI Reference:/td
td
div id=txtGIFIbGIFI information will be listed here./b/div
/td/tr
trtd align=rightfont face=times new romanTransaction Date
(-MM-DD):/td
td
input type=text name=transaction_date size=40 maxlength=10
/td/tr
trtd/tdtd
table
trtd align=rightfont face=times new romanForeign Currency
Received:/td
td
font face=times new roman$ input type=text
name=foreign_currency_dollar_value size=20 maxlength=12
/td/tr
trtd align=rightfont face=times new romanForeign Currency
Identifier:/td
td
SELECT NAME=foreign_currency_identifier
OPTION VALUE=0/OPTION
OPTION VALUE=1U.S. Funds/OPTION
/SELECT
/td/tr
trtd
Re: [PHP] Re: PHP/AJAX File DragDrop
Dan wrote: Unfortunatly javascript can't access the filesystem so it can't get filenames. The closest way you could do something like this would be to use Java (not javascript, totally different). It's a permissions thing, just the way JS and everything else is designed. - Dan Andrei Verovski (aka MacGuru) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi ! Anyone knows PHP/AJAX library which allows to get full path of file dropped into web browser's window area? It is required for document archiving system in order to avoid multiple (or to be more precise, almost endless) usage of open file dialogs from the browser. Library should be compatible with Firefox (Lin, Win, Mac), IE and Safary. Thanks in advance for any suggestion(s). Andrei In fact you can access the filesystem with signed javascript scripts. Which by signing you Javascript, you will be allowed to access the local file system. But, again, it is all about the permissions. Jim -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: PHP/AJAX File DragDrop
Jim Lucas wrote: Dan wrote: Unfortunatly javascript can't access the filesystem so it can't get filenames. The closest way you could do something like this would be to use Java (not javascript, totally different). It's a permissions thing, just the way JS and everything else is designed. - Dan [···] Library should be compatible with Firefox (Lin, Win, Mac), IE and Safary. Thanks in advance for any suggestion(s). Andrei In fact you can access the filesystem with signed javascript scripts. Which by signing you Javascript, you will be allowed to access the local file system. But, again, it is all about the permissions. Jim Actually no. Javascript doesn't allow for client's FS access for security reasons, as noted before. What you're probably talking about is IE's proprietary implementation and the use of COM objects (and there goes the security), but Andrei says the solution should be cross-browser, so this doesn't look like an option. Rafael. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Re: PHP/AJAX File DragDrop
I think the risk is that the path shows lots of information about how your system is configured that is not necessary to transfer the file, so, for example if uploading something from you My Documents folder on windoz, why reveal what username you use for system signon, no sense leaving the door open. I would suggest you use something like a signed on user name to your site to organize uploads, and not depend on where a given user stores things on his system. Warren Vail -Original Message- From: Dan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 4:40 PM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP] Re: PHP/AJAX File DragDrop Unfortunatly javascript can't access the filesystem so it can't get filenames. The closest way you could do something like this would be to use Java (not javascript, totally different). It's a permissions thing, just the way JS and everything else is designed. - Dan Andrei Verovski (aka MacGuru) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi ! Anyone knows PHP/AJAX library which allows to get full path of file dropped into web browser's window area? It is required for document archiving system in order to avoid multiple (or to be more precise, almost endless) usage of open file dialogs from the browser. Library should be compatible with Firefox (Lin, Win, Mac), IE and Safary. Thanks in advance for any suggestion(s). Andrei -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: PHP/AJAX File DragDrop
Unfortunatly javascript can't access the filesystem so it can't get filenames. The closest way you could do something like this would be to use Java (not javascript, totally different). It's a permissions thing, just the way JS and everything else is designed. - Dan Andrei Verovski (aka MacGuru) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi ! Anyone knows PHP/AJAX library which allows to get full path of file dropped into web browser's window area? It is required for document archiving system in order to avoid multiple (or to be more precise, almost endless) usage of open file dialogs from the browser. Library should be compatible with Firefox (Lin, Win, Mac), IE and Safary. Thanks in advance for any suggestion(s). Andrei -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Re: PHP/AJAX File DragDrop
You can also use the FileReference ActionScript class in flash. This will not allow you to drop a file and get it uploaded (will it?) but it supports multiple file selection. There are some implementations in javascript that make use of this flash feature to upload multiple files interactively (search for SWFUpload in google, but there are others as well). But surely enough... if you require such a thing as drag and drop for files your best bet is a Java Applet. Rob -Original Message- From: Dan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 9:40 PM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP] Re: PHP/AJAX File DragDrop Unfortunatly javascript can't access the filesystem so it can't get filenames. The closest way you could do something like this would be to use Java (not javascript, totally different). It's a permissions thing, just the way JS and everything else is designed. - Dan Andrei Verovski (aka MacGuru) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi ! Anyone knows PHP/AJAX library which allows to get full path of file dropped into web browser's window area? It is required for document archiving system in order to avoid multiple (or to be more precise, almost endless) usage of open file dialogs from the browser. Library should be compatible with Firefox (Lin, Win, Mac), IE and Safary. Thanks in advance for any suggestion(s). Andrei -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP/AJAX File DragDrop
On Sat, 1 Dec 2007, Andrei Verovski (aka MacGuru) wrote: Hi ! Anyone knows PHP/AJAX library which allows to get full path of file dropped into web browser's window area? It is required for document archiving system in order to avoid multiple (or to be more precise, almost endless) usage of open file dialogs from the browser. Library should be compatible with Firefox (Lin, Win, Mac), IE and Safary. Thanks in advance for any suggestion(s). Andrei As others have noted, Javascript cannot return the full path to a client-side document for security reasons. If you need a multiple file upload interface, you might want to take a look at some extjs ALAX toolkit-based stuff, eg http://aariadne.com/uploadform/ http://extplorer.sourceforge.net/ Haven't used either of them, though. I do use extjs alot: http://extjs.com/ Normally I shy away from 'Web 2.0' kinda stuff, but I've had to develop some complex dynamic interfaces to a PHP/MySQL backend and had to make the leap. It's well-documented, the developers are active and helpful participants in the forums, and it seems to work pretty well cross-platform (haven't tried it on my Linux/Solaris boxes yet, but WinXP/Firefox, WinXP/IE, OSX/Firefox, OSX/Safari all seem to work pretty well. Had some quirks with OSX/Opera, but haven't had a chance to delve into that. I also use the HTML_AJAX package - http://pear.php.net/package/HTML_AJAX - as I still have some PHP4 left and can't use the native JSON functions. If extjs doesn't float your boat, you can always look into Scriptaculous, Dojo, YUI, many others. steve ... . Steve Edberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] . . Computer Consultant University of California, Davis . . (530)754-9127 . ... -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] PHP/AJAX File DragDrop
Hi ! Anyone knows PHP/AJAX library which allows to get full path of file dropped into web browser's window area? It is required for document archiving system in order to avoid multiple (or to be more precise, almost endless) usage of open file dialogs from the browser. Library should be compatible with Firefox (Lin, Win, Mac), IE and Safary. Thanks in advance for any suggestion(s). Andrei -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] instant messenger php + ajax
hi i am looking for an instant messenger for my web site i would like to enable also not register user to chat to the other not register user in my web site.. where i can find a source code like this ?
[PHP] Re: instant messenger php + ajax
Marco Sottana wrote: hi i am looking for an instant messenger for my web site i would like to enable also not register user to chat to the other not register user in my web site.. where i can find a source code like this ? Lots of the them out there.. google php ajax chat My personal favourite though has to be http://yurivish.com/yshout/ Bare in mind though, any PHP webserver based chat, will have a HUGE demand on the server. Check your bandwidth constantly, it's gonna increase. Darren -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: instant messenger php + ajax
i would like a one to one chat .. no one to everybody - Original Message - From: Darren Whitlen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: php-general@lists.php.net Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 10:05 AM Subject: [PHP] Re: instant messenger php + ajax Marco Sottana wrote: hi i am looking for an instant messenger for my web site i would like to enable also not register user to chat to the other not register user in my web site.. where i can find a source code like this ? Lots of the them out there.. google php ajax chat My personal favourite though has to be http://yurivish.com/yshout/ Bare in mind though, any PHP webserver based chat, will have a HUGE demand on the server. Check your bandwidth constantly, it's gonna increase. Darren -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: instant messenger php + ajax
Marco Sottana wrote: i would like a one to one chat .. no one to everybody - Original Message - From: Darren Whitlen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: php-general@lists.php.net Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 10:05 AM Subject: [PHP] Re: instant messenger php + ajax Marco Sottana wrote: hi i am looking for an instant messenger for my web site i would like to enable also not register user to chat to the other not register user in my web site.. where i can find a source code like this ? Lots of the them out there.. google php ajax chat My personal favourite though has to be http://yurivish.com/yshout/ Bare in mind though, any PHP webserver based chat, will have a HUGE demand on the server. Check your bandwidth constantly, it's gonna increase. Darren -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php So let me get the idea.. User comes onto the website, User talks to webmaster. Does the webmaster want to talk to everybody at the same time? Or just to one user at a time? Darren -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: instant messenger php + ajax
- Original Message - From: Darren Whitlen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: php-general@lists.php.net Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: instant messenger php + ajax Marco Sottana wrote: i would like a one to one chat .. no one to everybody - Original Message - From: Darren Whitlen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: php-general@lists.php.net Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 10:05 AM Subject: [PHP] Re: instant messenger php + ajax Marco Sottana wrote: hi i am looking for an instant messenger for my web site i would like to enable also not register user to chat to the other not register user in my web site.. where i can find a source code like this ? Lots of the them out there.. google php ajax chat My personal favourite though has to be http://yurivish.com/yshout/ Bare in mind though, any PHP webserver based chat, will have a HUGE demand on the server. Check your bandwidth constantly, it's gonna increase. Darren -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php So let me get the idea.. User comes onto the website, User talks to webmaster. Does the webmaster want to talk to everybody at the same time? Or just to one user at a time? 1)User come onto the website .. 2)website give at the user a name like guest.rand(1,1000); 3)website show a list with all user into the website 4)user can click over a name of over user .. website open a popup Darren -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Ajax Developer
At 1:58 PM -0400 5/9/07, Efrain Sarmiento wrote: Can someone clarify that for me...I got that directly off job description from Lehman. Thanks Then ask Lehman what a PhotoShop IDE is. And, while you're at it, ask if you can have a sky-hook. tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Ajax Developer
At 2:00 PM -0400 5/9/07, Daniel Brown wrote: Is it just me, or does it seem like everyone things AJAX is some sort of PHP extension or new way of programming in PHP? The name alone more or less says otherwise AJAX is supposed to be Asynchronous JavaScript And XML, right? Or am I just talking out of my ass again? I seem to be doing that a lot today for some reason Well.. the way I use AJAX is to send commands to a php script that then modifies the DOM. So, to me it's just another way for php to present data. Check this out: http://xn--nvg.com/ajax Try it and then look at the source. If you use FF, it will show the generated source. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Ajax?
JavaScript (and AJAX) took the fun out of programming. Before AJAX, programming for web was easy and fast. Now its the oposite. - Original Message - From: jekillen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Emil Edeholt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: PHP List php-general@lists.php.net Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] Ajax? On May 9, 2007, at 8:04 AM, Emil Edeholt wrote: Hi! What do you guys use to develop ajax applications and do you have any good articles on the subject? I've just about finished an ajaxish site but it wasn't fun. A lot of nesting javascript inside php calls, having to write the logic both in javascript and php and so on. The source looks ugly and was time consuming to debug. Thanks! Anything involving javascript development has several built in debugging facilities 1: Alert dialogs: You may find it a chore to learn how to use them effectively. But the current content of any variable can be displayed with an alert dialog. You have to pay attention to how strings are concatenated; with +, The actual variable name cannot be quoted. 2: Browser error reporting, in Netscape species, javascript console. Take a hint, all source code text should be formated for Unix/Linux ( line feed line endings) If you do scripting on a Classic Mac OS = OS9, the line endings are carriage; and Windows uses both carriage return and line feed. return. You will drive your self crazy cussing the console because it will not refer to lines containing syntax errors, but some disrelated lines. 3. View source window in browser to see exactly what the browser is getting on page load. 4. Forms: I have coded special forms just for the sake of development and debug of javascript apps. All globals are visible through out the script, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF SOME THAT ARE DEFINED IN SOURCED JS FILES; Opening a javascript window is in a function does not seem to register if the function is in a sourced file. 5. Patience, patience, patience, some masochism, Several large available paper back text books. No one will describe all you might need to know about issues like rollovers, DHTML, etc, Imagination and ingenuity, or the will to search and sift through others source code until you find what you are looking for, and then making it work for you. That's it, I have some suggestion that there are systems available for javascript but I have done without long enough to have my methods and approaches. One more thing, php and javascript work very well together. I have even written a function to display php variable values as javascript alert dialogs. It will not function as break points for php like it does with javascript, but at least you do not have to decipher php error smeared all over the screen. And Ajax, even though I have not cracked that particular aspect of javascript as yet, looks very worthwhile. Jeff K -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.4/790 - Release Date: 5/5/2007 10:34 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Ajax?
On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 08:52 -0300, Rangel Reale wrote: JavaScript (and AJAX) took the fun out of programming. Before AJAX, programming for web was easy and fast. Now its the oposite. Maybe you're doing it wrong :| Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Ajax?
Hi! What do you guys use to develop ajax applications and do you have any good articles on the subject? I've just about finished an ajaxish site but it wasn't fun. A lot of nesting javascript inside php calls, having to write the logic both in javascript and php and so on. The source looks ugly and was time consuming to debug. Thanks! Kind regards Emil -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Ajax Developer
AJAX Developer (Web Designer / Developer). MUST HAVE: 1 year AJAX Experience, HTML, CSS, DHTML, OOJS, XML, JAVASCRIRPT, J2EE, and at lease an IDE like Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Eclipse or similar. Jersey City, NJ, 6 months ongoing. $560/day C2C. _ Efrain Sarmiento Technical Recruiter MISI company p: 212.355.5585 x332 f: 212.751.5964 c: 917.365.5656 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Informed Usability | Innovative Solutions | Reliable Sourcing www.misicompany.com http://www.misicompany.com/ _ The information contained in this message is sent in the strictest confidence for the addressee only. It is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain legally privileged/confidential/proprietary information. If you have received this email in error you are requested to preserve its confidentiality and advise the sender.
Re: [PHP] Ajax Developer
Efrain Sarmiento wrote: AJAX Developer (Web Designer / Developer). MUST HAVE: 1 year AJAX Experience, HTML, CSS, DHTML, OOJS, XML, JAVASCRIRPT, J2EE, and at lease an IDE like Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Eclipse or similar. Jersey City, NJ, 6 months ongoing. $560/day C2C. Hands up everyone who uses the Photoshop IDE... -Stut -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Em Quarta 09 Maio 2007 12:12, Stut escreveu: Efrain Sarmiento wrote: AJAX Developer (Web Designer / Developer). MUST HAVE: 1 year AJAX Experience, HTML, CSS, DHTML, OOJS, XML, JAVASCRIRPT, J2EE, and at lease an IDE like Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Eclipse or similar. Jersey City, NJ, 6 months ongoing. $560/day C2C. Hands up everyone who uses the Photoshop IDE... =P _o/ hehehe How can I do an while loop in Photoshop CS 3?? =] Using the pen tool? On which layer? thanks! =] -- Davi Vidal [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Religion, ideology, resources, land, spite, love or just because... No matter how pathetic the reason, it's enough to start a war. pgpWAyX29KtcQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On May 9, 2007, at 10:12 AM, Stut wrote: Efrain Sarmiento wrote: AJAX Developer (Web Designer / Developer). MUST HAVE: 1 year AJAX Experience, HTML, CSS, DHTML, OOJS, XML, JAVASCRIRPT, J2EE, and at lease an IDE like Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Eclipse or similar. Jersey City, NJ, 6 months ongoing. $560/day C2C. Hands up everyone who uses the Photoshop IDE... Ohh! That's in CS3 right?!? Cool! I've gotta get me one of those! Ed -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 10:23 -0500, Edward Vermillion wrote: On May 9, 2007, at 10:12 AM, Stut wrote: Efrain Sarmiento wrote: AJAX Developer (Web Designer / Developer). MUST HAVE: 1 year AJAX Experience, HTML, CSS, DHTML, OOJS, XML, JAVASCRIRPT, J2EE, and at lease an IDE like Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Eclipse or similar. Jersey City, NJ, 6 months ongoing. $560/day C2C. Hands up everyone who uses the Photoshop IDE... Ohh! That's in CS3 right?!? Cool! I've gotta get me one of those! I'm much more partial to the Gimp IDE :) Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Em Quarta 09 Maio 2007 12:41, Robert Cummings escreveu: On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 10:23 -0500, Edward Vermillion wrote: On May 9, 2007, at 10:12 AM, Stut wrote: Efrain Sarmiento wrote: AJAX Developer (Web Designer / Developer). MUST HAVE: 1 year AJAX Experience, HTML, CSS, DHTML, OOJS, XML, JAVASCRIRPT, J2EE, and at lease an IDE like Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Eclipse or similar. Jersey City, NJ, 6 months ongoing. $560/day C2C. Hands up everyone who uses the Photoshop IDE... Ohh! That's in CS3 right?!? Cool! I've gotta get me one of those! I'm much more partial to the Gimp IDE :) MS Paint or Xpaint sounds little better to me... =] -- Davi Vidal [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Religion, ideology, resources, land, spite, love or just because... No matter how pathetic the reason, it's enough to start a war. pgpwVNnRgmJnk.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: [PHP] Ajax?
-Original Message- From: Emil Edeholt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 May 2007 16:05 To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP] Ajax? Hi! What do you guys use to develop ajax applications and do you have any good articles on the subject? I've just about finished an ajaxish site but it wasn't fun. A lot of nesting javascript inside php calls, having to write the logic both in javascript and php and so on. The source looks ugly and was time consuming to debug. Thanks! Kind regards Emil Have a look at the various frameworks available since these handle much of the nasty details: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_web_application_frameworks#PHP I've been using Qcodo (http://www.qcodo.com) for a recent web app and am impressed at how quickly I've been able to develop with it. For JavaScript/CSS, I've also been using Yahoo User Interface (YUI) components which I'm also really impressed with: http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/ The thing with frameworks and libraries is that everyone will have their favourite for one reason or another. You just have to find the one you feel most comfortable with. Hope that helps, Edward -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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-Original Message- From: Robert Cummings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 10:23 -0500, Edward Vermillion wrote: On May 9, 2007, at 10:12 AM, Stut wrote: Efrain Sarmiento wrote: AJAX Developer (Web Designer / Developer). MUST HAVE: 1 year AJAX Experience, HTML, CSS, DHTML, OOJS, XML, JAVASCRIRPT, J2EE, and at lease an IDE like Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Eclipse or similar. Jersey City, NJ, 6 months ongoing. $560/day C2C. Hands up everyone who uses the Photoshop IDE... Ohh! That's in CS3 right?!? Cool! I've gotta get me one of those! I'm much more partial to the Gimp IDE :) Ah, but can you code JAVASCRIRPT in the Gimp IDE? ;) I'm not sure why the job requires you to lease the IDE though - Photoshop is a bit pricey, but it's not that bad! E -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Ajax Developer
On May 9, 2007, at 10:41 AM, Robert Cummings wrote: On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 10:23 -0500, Edward Vermillion wrote: On May 9, 2007, at 10:12 AM, Stut wrote: Efrain Sarmiento wrote: AJAX Developer (Web Designer / Developer). MUST HAVE: 1 year AJAX Experience, HTML, CSS, DHTML, OOJS, XML, JAVASCRIRPT, J2EE, and at lease an IDE like Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Eclipse or similar. Jersey City, NJ, 6 months ongoing. $560/day C2C. Hands up everyone who uses the Photoshop IDE... Ohh! That's in CS3 right?!? Cool! I've gotta get me one of those! I'm much more partial to the Gimp IDE :) Do I need to update to RH5.2 to get that? I don't see it in my 5.0 distribution Ed -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On 5/9/07, Edward Kay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, but can you code JAVASCRIRPT in the Gimp IDE? ;) Is JAVASCRIRPT another of those Web 2.0 languages? ;-P -- Daniel P. Brown [office] (570-) 587-7080 Ext. 272 [mobile] (570-) 766-8107
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hey edward... from my reading.. i thought yahoo's user interface (yui) components where for interfacing with yahoo am i missing something here?? thanks -bruce -Original Message- From: Edward Kay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 8:44 AM To: Emil Edeholt; PHP General List Subject: RE: [PHP] Ajax? -Original Message- From: Emil Edeholt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 May 2007 16:05 To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP] Ajax? Hi! What do you guys use to develop ajax applications and do you have any good articles on the subject? I've just about finished an ajaxish site but it wasn't fun. A lot of nesting javascript inside php calls, having to write the logic both in javascript and php and so on. The source looks ugly and was time consuming to debug. Thanks! Kind regards Emil Have a look at the various frameworks available since these handle much of the nasty details: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_web_application_frameworks#PHP I've been using Qcodo (http://www.qcodo.com) for a recent web app and am impressed at how quickly I've been able to develop with it. For JavaScript/CSS, I've also been using Yahoo User Interface (YUI) components which I'm also really impressed with: http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/ The thing with frameworks and libraries is that everyone will have their favourite for one reason or another. You just have to find the one you feel most comfortable with. Hope that helps, Edward -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On 5/9/07, bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from my reading.. i thought yahoo's user interface (yui) components where for interfacing with yahoo am i missing something here?? Yes. :) The Yahoo! User Interface (YUI) Library is a set of utilities and controls, written in JavaScript, for building richly interactive web applications using techniques such as DOM scripting, DHTML and AJAX. http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/ -- Greg Donald http://destiney.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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I´ve been using the YUI library and, specifically for AJAX, the Connection Manager (http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/connection/), but also many of the other components in YUI. I find that some of the frameworks are a little heavy, covering both the JavaScript side and the PHP server side. In some you deal with the PHP side and in some misterious way JavaScript gets sent to the client, but they are too obscure for my taste, I prefer to know what goes on. YUI coupled with Firefox with the FireBug debugger plugin is a great combination and on the server side you are quite free to do and use whatever you want. And don't miss the videos of the presentations of Douglas Crockford on JavaScrit and the DOM. Satyam - Original Message - From: Emil Edeholt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: php-general@lists.php.net Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 5:04 PM Subject: [PHP] Ajax? Hi! What do you guys use to develop ajax applications and do you have any good articles on the subject? I've just about finished an ajaxish site but it wasn't fun. A lot of nesting javascript inside php calls, having to write the logic both in javascript and php and so on. The source looks ugly and was time consuming to debug. Thanks! Kind regards Emil -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.6/794 - Release Date: 08/05/2007 14:23 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Greg Donald escribió: On 5/9/07, bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from my reading.. i thought yahoo's user interface (yui) components where for interfacing with yahoo am i missing something here?? Yes. :) The Yahoo! User Interface (YUI) Library is a set of utilities and controls, written in JavaScript, for building richly interactive web applications using techniques such as DOM scripting, DHTML and AJAX. http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/ Prototype is very good too. http://www.prototypejs.org/ Combined with Rico you can do very interesting things: http://www.openrico.org/ -- select 'mmarques' || '@' || 'unl.edu.ar' AS email; - Martín Marqués | Programador, DBA Centro de Telemática| Administrador Universidad Nacional del Litoral - -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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hey greg! thanks for the update... have to have my guys check it out.. to be honest, i'm not sure where i got the impression that the yui was for yahoo!!! thanks mukch! -Original Message- From: Greg Donald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 9:28 AM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Ajax? On 5/9/07, bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from my reading.. i thought yahoo's user interface (yui) components where for interfacing with yahoo am i missing something here?? Yes. :) The Yahoo! User Interface (YUI) Library is a set of utilities and controls, written in JavaScript, for building richly interactive web applications using techniques such as DOM scripting, DHTML and AJAX. http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/ -- Greg Donald http://destiney.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Ajax Developer
On Wed, May 9, 2007 10:09 am, Efrain Sarmiento wrote: AJAX Developer (Web Designer / Developer). MUST HAVE: 1 year AJAX Experience, HTML, CSS, DHTML, OOJS, XML, JAVASCRIRPT, J2EE, and at lease an IDE like Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Eclipse or similar. Jersey City, NJ, 6 months ongoing. $560/day C2C. Photoshop as an IDE? That must be pretty interesting... :-) Where's the PHP? -- Some people have a gift link here. Know what I want? I want you to buy a CD from some indie artist. http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch Yeah, I get a buck. So? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Wed, May 9, 2007 10:12 am, Stut wrote: Efrain Sarmiento wrote: AJAX Developer (Web Designer / Developer). MUST HAVE: 1 year AJAX Experience, HTML, CSS, DHTML, OOJS, XML, JAVASCRIRPT, J2EE, and at lease an IDE like Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Eclipse or similar. Jersey City, NJ, 6 months ongoing. $560/day C2C. Hands up everyone who uses the Photoshop IDE... I switch to GIMP IDE ages ago. All the same features, albeit under different menus, but OpenSource and Free and runs on my OSes of choice. -- Some people have a gift link here. Know what I want? I want you to buy a CD from some indie artist. http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch Yeah, I get a buck. So? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Ajax Developer
Can someone clarify that for me...I got that directly off job description from Lehman. Thanks _ Efrain Sarmiento Technical Recruiter MISI company p: 212.355.5585 x332 f: 212.751.5964 c: 917.365.5656 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Informed Usability | Innovative Solutions | Reliable Sourcing www.misicompany.com _ The information contained in this message is sent in the strictest confidence for the addressee only. It is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain legally privileged/confidential/proprietary information. If you have received this email in error you are requested to preserve its confidentiality and advise the sender. -Original Message- From: Richard Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 1:56 PM To: Efrain Sarmiento Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Ajax Developer On Wed, May 9, 2007 10:09 am, Efrain Sarmiento wrote: AJAX Developer (Web Designer / Developer). MUST HAVE: 1 year AJAX Experience, HTML, CSS, DHTML, OOJS, XML, JAVASCRIRPT, J2EE, and at lease an IDE like Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Eclipse or similar. Jersey City, NJ, 6 months ongoing. $560/day C2C. Photoshop as an IDE? That must be pretty interesting... :-) Where's the PHP? -- Some people have a gift link here. Know what I want? I want you to buy a CD from some indie artist. http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch Yeah, I get a buck. So? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Wed, May 9, 2007 10:54 am, Daniel Brown wrote: On 5/9/07, Edward Kay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, but can you code JAVASCRIRPT in the Gimp IDE? ;) Is JAVASCRIRPT another of those Web 2.0 languages? ;-P No, but here's a Tip: If you spell it that way, the code you write just plain doesn't run, and nothing tells you what went wrong. *THAT* particular typo only wasted a half-day for me a couple weeks ago. Sigh. -- Some people have a gift link here. Know what I want? I want you to buy a CD from some indie artist. http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch Yeah, I get a buck. So? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Is it just me, or does it seem like everyone things AJAX is some sort of PHP extension or new way of programming in PHP? The name alone more or less says otherwise AJAX is supposed to be Asynchronous JavaScript And XML, right? Or am I just talking out of my ass again? I seem to be doing that a lot today for some reason On 5/9/07, Richard Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, May 9, 2007 10:09 am, Efrain Sarmiento wrote: AJAX Developer (Web Designer / Developer). MUST HAVE: 1 year AJAX Experience, HTML, CSS, DHTML, OOJS, XML, JAVASCRIRPT, J2EE, and at lease an IDE like Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Eclipse or similar. Jersey City, NJ, 6 months ongoing. $560/day C2C. Photoshop as an IDE? That must be pretty interesting... :-) Where's the PHP? -- Some people have a gift link here. Know what I want? I want you to buy a CD from some indie artist. http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch Yeah, I get a buck. So? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Daniel P. Brown [office] (570-) 587-7080 Ext. 272 [mobile] (570-) 766-8107
