Re: [PHP] Crypt Function-- Encryption and Decryption

2004-11-21 Thread Rens Admiraal

Mulley, Nikhil wrote:
Hi Rens,
Can you please be more specific or can you show some  practical  
examples or procedural way ?
 
 
Thanks,
Nikhil
 
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*From:* Rens Admiraal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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*Subject:* Re: [PHP] Crypt Function-- Encryption and Decryption
What would be the use of a hash if it was easy to recover ?
You can use it by storing the hash of a password, en when the user
supplies you his password in a script, you hash it again... and
compare those two hashes...
Trying to recover the value from which the hash is the result is
called cracking, and no programming!
Jon-EIrik Pettersen wrote:
Mulley, Nikhil wrote:
Hi All,

I have a password file , which has all the passwords words
encrypted with the Crypt Function
I know that Crypt uses one-way algorithm to generate the
encryptions and PHP has no Decrypt function , ( but can it be
developed to have one ?)
But I am eager to know whether it is really impossible to
decrypt the passwords , if possible , how it caqn be done. like
salts and all
Can somebody *please* throw more light on Crypt() and Encryption
and Decryption in this thread.
Thanks,
Nikhil
 

As far as I know the standard crypto-methots used in
crypt() is one-way-hashing. The data used when encrypting
is lost, the encrypted data is generated using this data. There
is no other methods to get these data back other than
brute-forcing (guess, encrypt with the same algorithm and compare)
but it may take months/years depending on the size of the orginal
data.


Re: [PHP] Crypt Function-- Encryption and Decryption

2004-11-21 Thread Rens Admiraal
What would be the use of a hash if it was easy to recover ?
You can use it by storing the hash of a password, en when the user 
supplies you his password in a script, you hash it again... and compare 
those two hashes...
Trying to recover the value from which the hash is the result is called 
cracking, and no programming!

Jon-EIrik Pettersen wrote:
Mulley, Nikhil wrote:
Hi All,

I have a password file , which has all the passwords words encrypted 
with the Crypt Function

I know that Crypt uses one-way algorithm to generate the encryptions 
and PHP has no Decrypt function , ( but can it be developed to have 
one ?)

But I am eager to know whether it is really impossible to decrypt the 
passwords , if possible , how it caqn be done. like salts and all

Can somebody *please* throw more light on Crypt() and Encryption and 
Decryption in this thread.

Thanks,
Nikhil
 

As far as I know the standard crypto-methots used in
crypt() is one-way-hashing. The data used when encrypting
is lost, the encrypted data is generated using this data. There
is no other methods to get these data back other than
brute-forcing (guess, encrypt with the same algorithm and compare)
but it may take months/years depending on the size of the orginal
data.


Re: [PHP] Crypt Function-- Encryption and Decryption

2004-11-21 Thread Jon-EIrik Pettersen
Mulley, Nikhil wrote:
Hi All,

I have a password file , which has all the passwords words encrypted with the 
Crypt Function
I know that Crypt uses one-way algorithm to generate the encryptions and PHP 
has no Decrypt function , ( but can it be developed to have one ?)
But I am eager to know whether it is really impossible to decrypt the passwords 
, if possible , how it caqn be done. like salts and all
Can somebody *please* throw more light on Crypt() and Encryption and Decryption 
in this thread.
Thanks,
Nikhil
 

As far as I know the standard crypto-methots used in
crypt() is one-way-hashing. The data used when encrypting
is lost, the encrypted data is generated using this data. There
is no other methods to get these data back other than
brute-forcing (guess, encrypt with the same algorithm and compare)
but it may take months/years depending on the size of the orginal
data.
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[PHP] Crypt Function-- Encryption and Decryption

2004-11-21 Thread Mulley, Nikhil
Hi All,

 

I have a password file , which has all the passwords words encrypted with the 
Crypt Function

I know that Crypt uses one-way algorithm to generate the encryptions and PHP 
has no Decrypt function , ( but can it be developed to have one ?)

But I am eager to know whether it is really impossible to decrypt the passwords 
, if possible , how it caqn be done. like salts and all

Can somebody *please* throw more light on Crypt() and Encryption and Decryption 
in this thread.

Thanks,

Nikhil