Re: [PHP] Gotta learn asp.net...

2005-11-10 Thread Jasper Bryant-Greene

Larry E. Ullman wrote:
Also, in my opinion, having a good knowledge of how to create a  dynamic 
Web site helps when going from PHP to ASP.NET. If you know  what the 
program must do in terms of functionality, protocol, etc.,  then it's 
mostly a matter of picking up the right syntax. I found  that ASP.NET is 
the opposite of PHP: doing something simple is  ridiculously hard but 
doing something kind of complex is pretty  simple. All the built in 
widgets and wizards help and the form  validation tools are really nice.


I wonder if ASP.NET have an email validation function? (For Richard 
Lynch's benefit.) :)


Jasper

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Re: [PHP] Gotta learn asp.net...

2005-11-10 Thread Larry E. Ullman

On Wed, November 9, 2005 6:54 pm, Joseph Szobody wrote:

*sigh* I'm a hardcore PHP programmer.. I've been using it for over
five years now, and would consider myself fairly advanced. I have  
a project
where I'm being forced to do some ASP.NET development, which I've  
never

touched. I need to learn it fast.


Nobody has enough money to make me do ASP again.


ASP.NET is leaps and bounds better than ASP. I would never use ASP  
but do do the occasional ASP.NET job (although PHP is my primary and  
preferred language).


I'm not sure about learning ASP.NET fast, but you should start by:
- Picking a language to use. VB Script and C# are the biggies. IMHO  
VB Script is easier, C# is better.
- Picking an IDE. WebMatrix is free and easy to use. Visual  
Studio .NET is expensive and not easy to use but potent.
- Knowing what database you'll be using. Probably Access (which  
totally sucks) or SQL Server (which kind of sucks).


Other than that, I personally always start with a good book. If you  
do that, pick a book that uses the same language and IDE that you'll  
be using.


Also, in my opinion, having a good knowledge of how to create a  
dynamic Web site helps when going from PHP to ASP.NET. If you know  
what the program must do in terms of functionality, protocol, etc.,  
then it's mostly a matter of picking up the right syntax. I found  
that ASP.NET is the opposite of PHP: doing something simple is  
ridiculously hard but doing something kind of complex is pretty  
simple. All the built in widgets and wizards help and the form  
validation tools are really nice.


Hope that helps,
Larry

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Re: [PHP] Gotta learn asp.net...

2005-11-10 Thread Richard Lynch
On Wed, November 9, 2005 6:54 pm, Joseph Szobody wrote:
> *sigh* I'm a hardcore PHP programmer.. I've been using it for over
> five
> years now, and would consider myself fairly advanced. I have a project
> where
> I'm being forced to do some ASP.NET development, which I've never
> touched. I
> need to learn it fast.

Personally, I would simply find a new job and quit.

Nobody has enough money to make me do ASP again.

That said, there have to be a ton of ASP jump-start resources out
there, but the people who know of them are more likely to be on ASP
lists than on the PHP list...

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Re: [PHP] Gotta learn asp.net...

2005-11-09 Thread Esteamedpw
VTC.com has some ASP tutorials... you can get their Monthly "University"  
program for $30.00 a month?


[PHP] Gotta learn asp.net...

2005-11-09 Thread Joseph Szobody
*sigh* I'm a hardcore PHP programmer.. I've been using it for over five 
years now, and would consider myself fairly advanced. I have a project where 
I'm being forced to do some ASP.NET development, which I've never touched. I 
need to learn it fast.

I'm thinking there must be some other folks around here who have been in 
similar situations. I'm looking for some pointers on good learning 
resources, specifically for someone who is an experienced PHP programmer, 
but who knows nothing about .NET. What helped you most in adapting your PHP 
skills for .NET?

Hope this is an appropriate question here.

Joseph 

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