Re: [PHP] New PHP User with a simple question
Paul M Foster wrote: > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 12:53:55PM -0600, Micah Gersten wrote: > > >> Paul M Foster wrote: >> > > > > >>> Please show me how *without Javascript* and *only with PHP* you can >>> change the content on a page interactively as the user described >>> *without* reloading the whole page. Xajax contains Javascript, which is >>> how it manages this feat. >>> >>> For Pete's sake people, this is a *new* PHP user who wanted a *simple* >>> solution to a relatively simple webpage problem. He's not looking for a >>> Javascript solution, or a framework solution, or an OOP solution. He's >>> not necessarily looking for a bulletproof, high security solution. He's >>> a *new* PHP user. He just wants to figure out how to do this simple >>> thing. Give him a *simple* answer. If you have to give him provisos >>> about security, OOP, or Javascript afterward, fine. >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> >>> >> I'm not saying that he should use it. I'm saying that *YOUR *claim was >> false. You should watch what you say. You said you *HAVE* to reload >> which is not true. I said nothing about without JavaScript. I agree >> that he shouldn't necessarily use that. That's why I snipped his stuff >> out and just quoted you. >> > > Since he asked the question on a *PHP* list, I assumed he wanted a *PHP* > solution, not a Javascript one. I also assumed that the OP was not a > Javascript programmer, since as a Javascript programmer, the solution > should have been obvious in Javascript. Ergo, my statements were in the > context of a *PHP* solution to his question. > > Moreover, his question indicated that he didn't understand some basic > fundamentals of the PHP execution model. Throwing a framework or > Javascript solution at him would have been like putting a 14 year old > behind the wheel of a Ferrari. > > But fair warning to all list members and future newbies who post here: > If you ask for a solution on *this* list, and you give indications that > you're not familiar with how PHP works with HTTP and HTML, then I will > give you a PHP-based solution, and avoid Javascript, Java, C, Perl, > Python, Ruby, Ruby on Rails, .NET, C++, C#, ECMAScript, Algol, PL/1, > assembler, APL, Fortran, COBOL, frameworks and other assorted odds and > ends which *might* do what you want, but aren't what you asked for. > > (Of course, I might give you a LISP/Scheme solution, though. ;-) > > > Paul > It's fine if you want to give a pure PHP solution, but please don't make false statements when doing so. Keep in mind that there are archives and someone reading them might think something is impossible when it in reality is very simple. Thank you, Micah Gersten onShore Networks Internal Developer http://www.onshore.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] New PHP User with a simple question
Kevin, Your link, with some modifications to fit my site layout, worked just as I was hoping for. Thank you very much. -- "Kevin Waterson" wrote in message news:20090126092451.7aab63ff.ke...@phpro.org... > >> > Sorry, I am also new to the etiquette of these mail lists. > > Hope this will get you started, > > http://www.phpro.org/tutorials/Introduction-to-PHP-templating.html > > Kevin > > http://phpro.org > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] New PHP User with a simple question
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 12:53:55PM -0600, Micah Gersten wrote: > Paul M Foster wrote: > > > > Please show me how *without Javascript* and *only with PHP* you can > > change the content on a page interactively as the user described > > *without* reloading the whole page. Xajax contains Javascript, which is > > how it manages this feat. > > > > For Pete's sake people, this is a *new* PHP user who wanted a *simple* > > solution to a relatively simple webpage problem. He's not looking for a > > Javascript solution, or a framework solution, or an OOP solution. He's > > not necessarily looking for a bulletproof, high security solution. He's > > a *new* PHP user. He just wants to figure out how to do this simple > > thing. Give him a *simple* answer. If you have to give him provisos > > about security, OOP, or Javascript afterward, fine. > > > > Paul > > > > > > I'm not saying that he should use it. I'm saying that *YOUR *claim was > false. You should watch what you say. You said you *HAVE* to reload > which is not true. I said nothing about without JavaScript. I agree > that he shouldn't necessarily use that. That's why I snipped his stuff > out and just quoted you. Since he asked the question on a *PHP* list, I assumed he wanted a *PHP* solution, not a Javascript one. I also assumed that the OP was not a Javascript programmer, since as a Javascript programmer, the solution should have been obvious in Javascript. Ergo, my statements were in the context of a *PHP* solution to his question. Moreover, his question indicated that he didn't understand some basic fundamentals of the PHP execution model. Throwing a framework or Javascript solution at him would have been like putting a 14 year old behind the wheel of a Ferrari. But fair warning to all list members and future newbies who post here: If you ask for a solution on *this* list, and you give indications that you're not familiar with how PHP works with HTTP and HTML, then I will give you a PHP-based solution, and avoid Javascript, Java, C, Perl, Python, Ruby, Ruby on Rails, .NET, C++, C#, ECMAScript, Algol, PL/1, assembler, APL, Fortran, COBOL, frameworks and other assorted odds and ends which *might* do what you want, but aren't what you asked for. (Of course, I might give you a LISP/Scheme solution, though. ;-) Paul -- Paul M. Foster -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] New PHP User with a simple question
Paul M Foster wrote: > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 12:03:20AM -0600, Micah Gersten wrote: > > >> Paul M Foster wrote: >> >>> >>> In case this has yet to be answered to your satisfaction... >>> >>> Your page will *have* to reload when the user presses the button, but >>> the majority of content can look the same, except for the content you >>> want to change. >>> >>> >>> >> This is absolutely not true. You can make the button call a PHP script >> with AJAX and just update the textbox. >> Check out: >> http://xajaxproject.org >> >> > > Please show me how *without Javascript* and *only with PHP* you can > change the content on a page interactively as the user described > *without* reloading the whole page. Xajax contains Javascript, which is > how it manages this feat. > > For Pete's sake people, this is a *new* PHP user who wanted a *simple* > solution to a relatively simple webpage problem. He's not looking for a > Javascript solution, or a framework solution, or an OOP solution. He's > not necessarily looking for a bulletproof, high security solution. He's > a *new* PHP user. He just wants to figure out how to do this simple > thing. Give him a *simple* answer. If you have to give him provisos > about security, OOP, or Javascript afterward, fine. > > Paul > > I'm not saying that he should use it. I'm saying that *YOUR *claim was false. You should watch what you say. You said you *HAVE* to reload which is not true. I said nothing about without JavaScript. I agree that he shouldn't necessarily use that. That's why I snipped his stuff out and just quoted you. Thank you, Micah Gersten onShore Networks Internal Developer http://www.onshore.com
Re: [PHP] New PHP User with a simple question
Bastien Koert wrote: > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Paul M Foster wrote: > >> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 12:03:20AM -0600, Micah Gersten wrote: >> >>> Paul M Foster wrote: In case this has yet to be answered to your satisfaction... Your page will *have* to reload when the user presses the button, but the majority of content can look the same, except for the content you want to change. >>> This is absolutely not true. You can make the button call a PHP script >>> with AJAX and just update the textbox. >>> Check out: >>> http://xajaxproject.org >>> >> Please show me how *without Javascript* and *only with PHP* you can >> change the content on a page interactively as the user described >> *without* reloading the whole page. Xajax contains Javascript, which is >> how it manages this feat. >> >> For Pete's sake people, this is a *new* PHP user who wanted a *simple* >> solution to a relatively simple webpage problem. He's not looking for a >> Javascript solution, or a framework solution, or an OOP solution. He's >> not necessarily looking for a bulletproof, high security solution. He's >> a *new* PHP user. He just wants to figure out how to do this simple >> thing. Give him a *simple* answer. If you have to give him provisos >> about security, OOP, or Javascript afterward, fine. >> >> Paul >> >> -- >> Paul M. Foster >> >> -- >> PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) >> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >> >> > The only real way then to avoid a page refresh with just PHP / HTML (for the > links) would be to use (i)frames and load the new content into the frame > Buy hey, that ability was here long before PHP was ever around, so that would not work either... :P -- Jim Lucas "Some men are born to greatness, some achieve greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon them." Twelfth Night, Act II, Scene V by William Shakespeare -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] New PHP User with a simple question
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Paul M Foster wrote: > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 12:03:20AM -0600, Micah Gersten wrote: > > > Paul M Foster wrote: > > > > > > In case this has yet to be answered to your satisfaction... > > > > > > Your page will *have* to reload when the user presses the button, but > > > the majority of content can look the same, except for the content you > > > want to change. > > > > > > > > > > This is absolutely not true. You can make the button call a PHP script > > with AJAX and just update the textbox. > > Check out: > > http://xajaxproject.org > > > > Please show me how *without Javascript* and *only with PHP* you can > change the content on a page interactively as the user described > *without* reloading the whole page. Xajax contains Javascript, which is > how it manages this feat. > > For Pete's sake people, this is a *new* PHP user who wanted a *simple* > solution to a relatively simple webpage problem. He's not looking for a > Javascript solution, or a framework solution, or an OOP solution. He's > not necessarily looking for a bulletproof, high security solution. He's > a *new* PHP user. He just wants to figure out how to do this simple > thing. Give him a *simple* answer. If you have to give him provisos > about security, OOP, or Javascript afterward, fine. > > Paul > > -- > Paul M. Foster > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > The only real way then to avoid a page refresh with just PHP / HTML (for the links) would be to use (i)frames and load the new content into the frame -- Bastien Cat, the other other white meat
Re: [PHP] New PHP User with a simple question
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 12:03:20AM -0600, Micah Gersten wrote: > Paul M Foster wrote: > > > > In case this has yet to be answered to your satisfaction... > > > > Your page will *have* to reload when the user presses the button, but > > the majority of content can look the same, except for the content you > > want to change. > > > > > > This is absolutely not true. You can make the button call a PHP script > with AJAX and just update the textbox. > Check out: > http://xajaxproject.org > Please show me how *without Javascript* and *only with PHP* you can change the content on a page interactively as the user described *without* reloading the whole page. Xajax contains Javascript, which is how it manages this feat. For Pete's sake people, this is a *new* PHP user who wanted a *simple* solution to a relatively simple webpage problem. He's not looking for a Javascript solution, or a framework solution, or an OOP solution. He's not necessarily looking for a bulletproof, high security solution. He's a *new* PHP user. He just wants to figure out how to do this simple thing. Give him a *simple* answer. If you have to give him provisos about security, OOP, or Javascript afterward, fine. Paul -- Paul M. Foster -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] New PHP User with a simple question OT
tedd schrieb: At 11:56 AM +0100 1/25/09, Carlos Medina wrote: Hi Ashley, yes this is the right answer. The "Problem" is not a PHP Question but a programming question. To be clear: i think, the "Problem" can you solve, if you get two or tree books or tutorials about the programming language. You should *try* to solve the problem self and then to post a question in a list or forum. I think this is the "normal" way. To the code i think this is very bad php code. You will get more XXS and other exploits with this code. Please tell me what is your site and i show you Regards Carlos Medina Carlos: Whoa dude -- this list IS for people to ask questions and from what the OP asked it WAS a php question. I totally agree with Ashley and your response is not common for this list. As to the OP's code being "bad" or whatever, he is asking for help. If you want to show him where his code is "bad", then be my guest -- but to tell him to go buy a book and come back to this list after he has reads it is not something you can dictate -- you have no control over this list. I suggest -- if you want to help, then do so. If not, then you go read a book. Cheers, tedd Tedd: Ok boss. Thank you. I will do. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] New PHP User with a simple question
Paul M Foster wrote: > > In case this has yet to be answered to your satisfaction... > > Your page will *have* to reload when the user presses the button, but > the majority of content can look the same, except for the content you > want to change. > > This is absolutely not true. You can make the button call a PHP script with AJAX and just update the textbox. Check out: http://xajaxproject.org Thank you, Micah Gersten onShore Networks Internal Developer http://www.onshore.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] New PHP User with a simple question
You may or may not find this worth reading: http://richardlynch.blogspot.com/2007/07/php-in-html.html Bottom line is that what you are trying to do can't be done in PHP. You'll have to resort to Javascript and DIV tags with display: none; switching to display: block; -- Some people ask for gifts here. I just want you to buy an Indie CD for yourself: http://cdbaby.com/search/from/lynch -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] New PHP User with a simple question
Christopher W wrote: At least I hope it is simple... I am trying to get an HTML menu link to set a variable's value. For example, when a user clicks the "Home" button on my page it would cause $page = "home"; or clicking the "About Us" button will set $page="about_us"; etc. I think this should be fairly simple but being completely new to php I just cannot seem to get it right. Any help would be greatly appreciate. Thank you in advance. Christopher, Rather then criticizing you, I would like to point you in the direction that you describe in your responses to the others that are. So, it sounds to me like you do not want to reload/change pages just to change the content of the current page. With PHP alone you cannot load new content without reloading the entire page, or involving one of the other methods listed below. I would say that you have two avenues to get this done. The first using a meld of AJAX & PHP http://nodstrum.com/2007/02/27/ajaxcontentload/ http://www.dhtmlgoodies.com/scripts/ajax-dynamic-articles/ajax-dynamic-articles.html http://www.dhtmlgoodies.com/scripts/ajax-dynamic-content/ajax-dynamic-content.html The second is with Javascript and/or CSS http://www.devarticles.com/c/a/HTML/Preloading-HTML-Content-with-CSS/ http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex17/switchcontent.htm Hope these help. -- Jim Lucas "Some men are born to greatness, some achieve greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon them." Twelfth Night, Act II, Scene V by William Shakespeare -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] New PHP User with a simple question
> > Sorry, I am also new to the etiquette of these mail lists. Hope this will get you started, http://www.phpro.org/tutorials/Introduction-to-PHP-templating.html Kevin http://phpro.org -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] New PHP User with a simple question
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 02:29:50AM -0500, Christopher W wrote:
> Sorry, I am also new to the etiquette of these mail lists.
>
> Anyway what I was attempting to do, in the full picture, was be able to just
> switch the text in the text area without actually changing pages. For
> example, if the user clicks "About Us" (from the home page) the page doesn't
> change, just the text (in the area I designated for text).
>
> Since I have never used php before (but have read some online and in books)
> what I was trying was:
>
> if ($page == "home") {echo $home_text;}
> elseif ($page == "about") {echo $about_text;}
> ...
> else {echo $error_text;}
>
> My problem is that I can't figure out how to get the link-click to assign
> the value to the variable. I didn't try any php for that end because I
> really didn't know where to begin.
>
> Thanks for the replies and the help. I truly appreciate it.
The reply I gave you earlier assumes you're doing this with a button,
not a link. If you're doing it with a link, it's slightly different. But
here's what you have to understand first: When you click on a link, you
load a different (or the same) page. Period. Web pages run on the HTTP
protocol, and one of the things about that protocol is that the server
knows virtually nothing about the context in which it's loading a page.
In other words, if you were on Page A and you go to Page B, the HTTP
protocol ensures that the server has *almost* no idea of what you did on
that page. There are some exceptions, two of which are GET and POST
variables. If you did something on a form in the page you came from,
then GET/POST variable will be visible to the server (and PHP) when you
get to the next page. If the "method" on your form is "post", as in:
then it will see POST variable. If you used the GET method instead, it
will see GET variables.
So if you want to communicate something to the next page you go to, you
will need to do it using a GET variable. GET variables are visible in
the navigation bar above your browser, and POST variables aren't.
So let's assume you want content.php to show "home" stuff if the user
was in index.php and pressed the "home" button. Then for the link the
push, you can do this:
Home
Note the "?section=home" part on the end of the URL? That's a GET
variable named "section" and it contains the contents "home". When you
construct the content.php page. Put in a "variant" section as I
explained in the last email, except make sure it tests for the GET
variable "section", like:
if ($_GET['section'] == 'home') ...
If you've programmed in other languages, PHP is a little difficult to
grasp, just because it has to deal with the HTTP protocol, and you're
embedding PHP in HTML pages. Otherwise its syntax is almost completely
C-like.
HTH,
Paul
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Re: [PHP] New PHP User with a simple question
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 02:40:08AM -0500, Christopher W wrote:
> Mr. Kubler,
>
> Thank you for the help. I have to admit, I am still in over my head, I
> think. Perhaps I should just stick to static pages...
>
> Anyway what I was attempting to do, in the full picture, was be able to just
> switch the text in the text area without actually changing pages. For
> example, if the user clicks "About Us" (from the home page)the page doesn't
> change, just the text (in the area I designated for text).
>
> Since I have never used php before (but have read some online and in books)
> what I was trying was:
>
> if ($page == "home") {echo $home_text;}
> elseif ($page == "about") {echo $about_text;}
> ...
> else {echo $error_text;}
>
> My problem is that I can't figure out how to get the link-click to assign
> the value to the variable. I didn't try any php for that end because I
> really didn't know where to begin. Perhaps I am just going about this the
> wrong way but from the extremely little I have learned about php, I thought
> that I could do it this way easily.
>
> Thanks for the replies and the help. I truly appreciate it.
>
In case this has yet to be answered to your satisfaction...
Your page will *have* to reload when the user presses the button, but
the majority of content can look the same, except for the content you
want to change.
Let's say you've named the button "section" and its value is "home" as
in:
When the user presses the button, the form now shows the value of
"section" as "home". PHP knows this has occurred. So you can make any
action occur by simply (in PHP):
if ($_POST['section'] == 'home') {
do_something();
}
In your case, you want a section of your HTML page to display something
else. So, wherever you want that content to be displayed in your HTML
page, do this:
The "" part tells Apache that the PHP part is over. If you're using
GET instead of POST for the form then change "$_POST" above to "$_GET".
Every item in a form yields a POST or GET variable which PHP can read,
just as it did above.
There are alternate ways to do this, but the above is probably the
simplest for you.
I recommend "Programming PHP" an O'Reilly book as a reference for the
language.
Paul
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Re: [PHP] New PHP User with a simple question
On Jan 24, 2009, at 11:06 PM, Christopher W wrote:
At least I hope it is simple...
I am trying to get an HTML menu link to set a variable's value. For
example, when a user clicks the "Home" button on my page it would
cause
$page = "home"; or clicking the "About Us" button will set
$page="about_us";
etc.
I think this should be fairly simple but being completely new to php
I just
cannot seem to get it right.
Any help would be greatly appreciate.
Hi Christopher,
Here's a code sample of something that I use to change the page
without reloading the entire thing... It is in the proces of
developing into somewhat of a template system where the presentation
info (The look of the site) is included in one file, and then when a
link is clicked it loads in the actual content for that page.
Let me know if you have any questions about it.
$sql = "SELECT * from raosetc_purl.schreur where
url='{$data[1]}' AND subscribed='0';";
$row[] = mysql_query($sql) or die("Database Error:
" .mysql_error());
$result = $row[0];
//Navigation must be below call to $data for it to function properly
include("nav.php");
while($row = mysql_fetch_assoc($result)){
echo <<
{$row['FName']}! It's great to see
you!
Logo">
HTML;
switch($url) {
case "design";
include("design.php");
//$purl = $data['1'];
break;
case "print";
include("print.php");
break;
case "mail";
include("mail.php");
break;
case "purl";
include("purl.php");
break;
case "test";
include("body.test.php");
break;
case "thankyou";
include("thankyou.php");
break;
default;
include("body.php");
break;
}
}
echo <<
HTML;
?>
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Re: [PHP] New PHP User with a simple question OT
On Jan 25, 2009, at 9:19 AM, tedd wrote: At 11:56 AM +0100 1/25/09, Carlos Medina wrote: Hi Ashley, yes this is the right answer. The "Problem" is not a PHP Question but a programming question. To be clear: i think, the "Problem" can you solve, if you get two or tree books or tutorials about the programming language. You should *try* to solve the problem self and then to post a question in a list or forum. I think this is the "normal" way. To the code i think this is very bad php code. You will get more XXS and other exploits with this code. Please tell me what is your site and i show you Regards Carlos Medina Carlos: Whoa dude -- this list IS for people to ask questions and from what the OP asked it WAS a php question. I totally agree with Ashley and your response is not common for this list. As to the OP's code being "bad" or whatever, he is asking for help. If you want to show him where his code is "bad", then be my guest -- but to tell him to go buy a book and come back to this list after he has reads it is not something you can dictate -- you have no control over this list. I suggest -- if you want to help, then do so. If not, then you go read a book. I agree completely with tedd here... If it wasn't for this list when I first started out... I would have given up... There was alot that didn't make sense and people on this list helped me get it sorted out. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] New PHP User with a simple question OT
At 11:56 AM +0100 1/25/09, Carlos Medina wrote: Hi Ashley, yes this is the right answer. The "Problem" is not a PHP Question but a programming question. To be clear: i think, the "Problem" can you solve, if you get two or tree books or tutorials about the programming language. You should *try* to solve the problem self and then to post a question in a list or forum. I think this is the "normal" way. To the code i think this is very bad php code. You will get more XXS and other exploits with this code. Please tell me what is your site and i show you Regards Carlos Medina Carlos: Whoa dude -- this list IS for people to ask questions and from what the OP asked it WAS a php question. I totally agree with Ashley and your response is not common for this list. As to the OP's code being "bad" or whatever, he is asking for help. If you want to show him where his code is "bad", then be my guest -- but to tell him to go buy a book and come back to this list after he has reads it is not something you can dictate -- you have no control over this list. I suggest -- if you want to help, then do so. If not, then you go read a book. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] New PHP User with a simple question
At 2:29 AM -0500 1/25/09, Christopher W wrote: My problem is that I can't figure out how to get the link-click to assign the value to the variable. I didn't try any php for that end because I really didn't know where to begin. It sounds to me like you're trying to create a smart menu. Perhaps this might help: http://sperling.com/examples/smart-menu/ Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] New PHP User with a simple question OT
Hi Ashley, yes this is the right answer. The "Problem" is not a PHP Question but a programming question. To be clear: i think, the "Problem" can you solve, if you get two or tree books or tutorials about the programming language. You should *try* to solve the problem self and then to post a question in a list or forum. I think this is the "normal" way. To the code i think this is very bad php code. You will get more XXS and other exploits with this code. Please tell me what is your site and i show you Regards Carlos Medina -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] New PHP User with a simple question
On Sun, 2009-01-25 at 10:51 +0100, Carlos Medina wrote:
> Michael Kubler schrieb:
> > The easiest way would be to use GET parameters (i.e data in the actual
> > URL).
> > There are a number of ways you can structure a HTML link to get what you
> > want.
> > You can have something basic (but not very elegant looking), like
> >Home
> >
> > Then in your index.php code you'd probably have something like :
> >
> > >$page = urldecode(*$_GET['page']); *
> >include_once header.inc; //Include a script that contains the
> >general header information
> >if(is_file(pages/*$page*.inc;)) //make sure they haven't requested a
> >non-existant file
> >{
> >include_once pages/*$page*.inc; //Doesn't have to be .inc you
> >could simply output HTML data if that's all your using.
> >}
> >else
> >{
> > include_once pages/Home.inc; //If the user wanted a file that
> >doesn't exist, then just take them to the home page (or you could
> >take them to an error page if that's what you want).
> >}
> >include_once footer.inc; //Which would contain the footer if you've
> >got one.
> >?>
> >
> >
> > This is approximately how I do it although sometimes have a functions
> > file I call, or a config file with basic presets, and various other
> > things. I use .inc (for inclusion) as the file extension, so I can
> > easily differentiate between .php files that customers will use (such as
> > index.php, admin.php, login.php, etc..), and the included files.
> >
> > In the header file I usually have something like that below.
> >
> > --- header.inc starts below this line ---
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > - Insert Company or Website Name
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >media="screen,projection,tv,tty,handheld,embossed,braille,aural"
> >type="text/css">
> > >type="text/css">
> >
> >
> >
> >HEADER INFORMATION (or image) HERE
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >*$main_navigation_list* = array(0 => array( 'name' => 'Home',
> >
> > 'url' => 'index.php?page=Contact',
> >
> > 'title' => 'The home page'),
> >
> > 1 => array('name' =>
> >'Contact' ,
> > 'url'
> >=> 'index.php?page=Contact',
> >
> > 'title' => 'The contact details')
> >);
> >?>
> >
> > >foreach(*$main_navigation_list* as *$index* => *$nav_list*)
> >{
> >echo ''. *$nav_list*['name'] . '';
> >}
> >?>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- END header.inc --
> >
> >
> >
> > In the header.inc I've manually created an array, then got PHP to go
> > through the array to add the name, URL and other details from the array,
> > but that's just to simplify this, usually I pull the navigation data
> > from a database (or if there's no MySQL installed I might unserialise it
> > from a file).
> >
> > There are other ways of pulling the data. If you want nice URLs, you can
> > have something like /pages/Home/ and then have a mod_rewrite rule in
> > Apache to then change that into index.php?page=Home, (although you'll
> > also need to change the to the new links. If you aren't running
> > on apache, you can manually find the page information by doing
> > print_r($_SERVER), and seeing what bits and pieces you can put together,
> > but that's not nearly as good or reliable.
> >
> > Sorry if there's too much info, but I'm guessing this is roughly what
> > you'll be doing.
> > If you want to have more than one variable (like say a sub page) then
> > you add *&* between each variable. E.g
> >
> >Home -
> >Archived News
> >
> > You can usually get away with just using *&* as the separator but it
> > probably won't validate properly if your making it in xhtml (as you
> > should be). Also, if your not sure what the %20 means (a space) then
> > look up urlencode
> > and urldecode .
> >
> > Michael Kubler
> > *G*rey *P*hoenix *P*roductions
> >
> >
> >
> > Christopher W wrote:
> >> At least I hope it is simple...
> >>
> >> I am trying to get an HTML menu link to set a variable's value. For
> >> example, when a user clicks the "Home" button on my page it would
> >> cause $page = "home"; or clicking the "About Us" button will set
> >> $page="about_us"; etc.
> >>
> >> I think this should be fairly simpl
Re: [PHP] New PHP User with a simple question
Christopher W schrieb:
Mr. Kubler,
Thank you for the help. I have to admit, I am still in over my head, I
think. Perhaps I should just stick to static pages...
Anyway what I was attempting to do, in the full picture, was be able to just
switch the text in the text area without actually changing pages. For
example, if the user clicks "About Us" (from the home page)the page doesn't
change, just the text (in the area I designated for text).
Since I have never used php before (but have read some online and in books)
what I was trying was:
if ($page == "home") {echo $home_text;}
elseif ($page == "about") {echo $about_text;}
...
else {echo $error_text;}
My problem is that I can't figure out how to get the link-click to assign
the value to the variable. I didn't try any php for that end because I
really didn't know where to begin. Perhaps I am just going about this the
wrong way but from the extremely little I have learned about php, I thought
that I could do it this way easily.
Thanks for the replies and the help. I truly appreciate it.
Hi Christopher,
please buy a PHP Book. Read it and if you have any questions come back.
Regards
Carlos Medina
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Re: [PHP] New PHP User with a simple question
Michael Kubler schrieb:
The easiest way would be to use GET parameters (i.e data in the actual
URL).
There are a number of ways you can structure a HTML link to get what you
want.
You can have something basic (but not very elegant looking), like
Home
Then in your index.php code you'd probably have something like :
This is approximately how I do it although sometimes have a functions
file I call, or a config file with basic presets, and various other
things. I use .inc (for inclusion) as the file extension, so I can
easily differentiate between .php files that customers will use (such as
index.php, admin.php, login.php, etc..), and the included files.
In the header file I usually have something like that below.
--- header.inc starts below this line ---
- Insert Company or Website Name
HEADER INFORMATION (or image) HERE
array( 'name' => 'Home',
'url' => 'index.php?page=Contact',
'title' => 'The home page'),
1 => array('name' =>
'Contact' ,
'url'
=> 'index.php?page=Contact',
'title' => 'The contact details')
);
?>
*$nav_list*)
{
echo ''. *$nav_list*['name'] . '';
}
?>
--- END header.inc --
In the header.inc I've manually created an array, then got PHP to go
through the array to add the name, URL and other details from the array,
but that's just to simplify this, usually I pull the navigation data
from a database (or if there's no MySQL installed I might unserialise it
from a file).
There are other ways of pulling the data. If you want nice URLs, you can
have something like /pages/Home/ and then have a mod_rewrite rule in
Apache to then change that into index.php?page=Home, (although you'll
also need to change the to the new links. If you aren't running
on apache, you can manually find the page information by doing
print_r($_SERVER), and seeing what bits and pieces you can put together,
but that's not nearly as good or reliable.
Sorry if there's too much info, but I'm guessing this is roughly what
you'll be doing.
If you want to have more than one variable (like say a sub page) then
you add *&* between each variable. E.g
Home -
Archived News
You can usually get away with just using *&* as the separator but it
probably won't validate properly if your making it in xhtml (as you
should be). Also, if your not sure what the %20 means (a space) then
look up urlencode
and urldecode .
Michael Kubler
*G*rey *P*hoenix *P*roductions
Christopher W wrote:
At least I hope it is simple...
I am trying to get an HTML menu link to set a variable's value. For
example, when a user clicks the "Home" button on my page it would
cause $page = "home"; or clicking the "About Us" button will set
$page="about_us"; etc.
I think this should be fairly simple but being completely new to php I
just cannot seem to get it right.
Any help would be greatly appreciate.
Thank you in advance.
I think this is the best way to open hackers a door to your system. Read
more about PHP please.
Regards
Carlos Medina
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Re: [PHP] New PHP User with a simple question
Mr. Kubler,
Thank you for the help. I have to admit, I am still in over my head, I
think. Perhaps I should just stick to static pages...
Anyway what I was attempting to do, in the full picture, was be able to just
switch the text in the text area without actually changing pages. For
example, if the user clicks "About Us" (from the home page)the page doesn't
change, just the text (in the area I designated for text).
Since I have never used php before (but have read some online and in books)
what I was trying was:
if ($page == "home") {echo $home_text;}
elseif ($page == "about") {echo $about_text;}
...
else {echo $error_text;}
My problem is that I can't figure out how to get the link-click to assign
the value to the variable. I didn't try any php for that end because I
really didn't know where to begin. Perhaps I am just going about this the
wrong way but from the extremely little I have learned about php, I thought
that I could do it this way easily.
Thanks for the replies and the help. I truly appreciate it.
--
"Michael Kubler" wrote in message
news:497c0275.80...@gmail.com...
> The easiest way would be to use GET parameters (i.e data in the actual
> URL).
> There are a number of ways you can structure a HTML link to get what you
> want.
> You can have something basic (but not very elegant looking), like
>
>Home
>
> Then in your index.php code you'd probably have something like :
>
>$page = urldecode(*$_GET['page']); *
>include_once header.inc; //Include a script that contains the
>general header information
>if(is_file(pages/*$page*.inc;)) //make sure they haven't requested a
>non-existant file
>{
>include_once pages/*$page*.inc; //Doesn't have to be .inc you
>could simply output HTML data if that's all your using.
>}
>else
>{
> include_once pages/Home.inc; //If the user wanted a file that
>doesn't exist, then just take them to the home page (or you could
>take them to an error page if that's what you want).
>}
>include_once footer.inc; //Which would contain the footer if you've
>got one.
>?>
>
>
> This is approximately how I do it although sometimes have a functions
> file I call, or a config file with basic presets, and various other
> things. I use .inc (for inclusion) as the file extension, so I can
> easily differentiate between .php files that customers will use (such as
> index.php, admin.php, login.php, etc..), and the included files.
>
> In the header file I usually have something like that below.
>
> --- header.inc starts below this line ---
>
>
>
>
>
> - Insert Company or Website Name
>
>
>
>
>
>
>media="screen,projection,tv,tty,handheld,embossed,braille,aural"
>type="text/css">
>type="text/css">
>
>
>
>HEADER INFORMATION (or image) HERE
>
>
>
>
>*$main_navigation_list* = array(0 => array( 'name' => 'Home',
>
>'url' => 'index.php?page=Contact',
>
>'title' => 'The home page'),
>
> 1 => array('name' =>
>'Contact' ,
> 'url'
>=> 'index.php?page=Contact',
>
>'title' => 'The contact details')
>);
>?>
>
>foreach(*$main_navigation_list* as *$index* => *$nav_list*)
>{
>echo ''. *$nav_list*['name'] . '';
>}
>?>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- END header.inc --
>
>
>
> In the header.inc I've manually created an array, then got PHP to go
> through the array to add the name, URL and other details from the array,
> but that's just to simplify this, usually I pull the navigation data
> from a database (or if there's no MySQL installed I might unserialise it
> from a file).
>
> There are other ways of pulling the data. If you want nice URLs, you can
> have something like /pages/Home/ and then have a mod_rewrite rule in
> Apache to then change that into index.php?page=Home, (although you'll
> also need to change the to the new links. If you aren't running
> on apache, you can manually find the page information by doing
> print_r($_SERVER), and seeing what bits and pieces you can put together,
> but that's not nearly as good or reliable.
>
> Sorry if there's too much info, but I'm guessing this is roughly what
> you'll be doing.
> If you want to have more than one variable (like say a sub page) then
> you add *&* between each variable. E.g
>
>Home -
>Archived News
>
> You can usually get away with just using *&* as the separator but it
> probably won't validate properly if your making it in xhtml (as you
> should be). Also, if your not sure what the %20 means (a space) then
> look up urlencode
> a
Re: [PHP] New PHP User with a simple question
Sorry, I am also new to the etiquette of these mail lists.
Anyway what I was attempting to do, in the full picture, was be able to just
switch the text in the text area without actually changing pages. For
example, if the user clicks "About Us" (from the home page) the page doesn't
change, just the text (in the area I designated for text).
Since I have never used php before (but have read some online and in books)
what I was trying was:
if ($page == "home") {echo $home_text;}
elseif ($page == "about") {echo $about_text;}
...
else {echo $error_text;}
My problem is that I can't figure out how to get the link-click to assign
the value to the variable. I didn't try any php for that end because I
really didn't know where to begin.
Thanks for the replies and the help. I truly appreciate it.
--
"Lars Torben Wilson" wrote in message
news:36d4833b0901242313r435860b3q7f3f4f0eea621...@mail.gmail.com...
> 2009/1/24 Christopher W :
>> At least I hope it is simple...
>>
>> I am trying to get an HTML menu link to set a variable's value. For
>> example, when a user clicks the "Home" button on my page it would cause
>> $page = "home"; or clicking the "About Us" button will set
>> $page="about_us";
>> etc.
>>
>> I think this should be fairly simple but being completely new to php I
>> just
>> cannot seem to get it right.
>>
>> Any help would be greatly appreciate.
>>
>> Thank you in advance.
>
> Hi there,
>
> A good way to increase your chance of getting a useful response is to
> post the smallest example you can which clearly illustrates the
> problem you're having. In this case, you say you're not able to get
> this to work, but we could waste quite a bit of time trying to guess
> what you've tried and what didn't work.
>
> In the simplest case, you could make your menu items look something
> like this: Home and then use $page
> = $_GET['page'] in your script, but I wouldn't recommend it since now
> you have user data floating around in your script and it will later
> become a pain in the butt to sanitize for security. For a learning
> script it'll be fine though.
>
>
> Torben
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Re: [PHP] New PHP User with a simple question
2009/1/24 Christopher W : > At least I hope it is simple... > > I am trying to get an HTML menu link to set a variable's value. For > example, when a user clicks the "Home" button on my page it would cause > $page = "home"; or clicking the "About Us" button will set $page="about_us"; > etc. > > I think this should be fairly simple but being completely new to php I just > cannot seem to get it right. > > Any help would be greatly appreciate. > > Thank you in advance. Hi there, A good way to increase your chance of getting a useful response is to post the smallest example you can which clearly illustrates the problem you're having. In this case, you say you're not able to get this to work, but we could waste quite a bit of time trying to guess what you've tried and what didn't work. In the simplest case, you could make your menu items look something like this: Home and then use $page = $_GET['page'] in your script, but I wouldn't recommend it since now you have user data floating around in your script and it will later become a pain in the butt to sanitize for security. For a learning script it'll be fine though. Torben -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] New PHP User with a simple question
The easiest way would be to use GET parameters (i.e data in the actual URL).
There are a number of ways you can structure a HTML link to get what you
want.
You can have something basic (but not very elegant looking), like
Home
Then in your index.php code you'd probably have something like :
This is approximately how I do it although sometimes have a functions
file I call, or a config file with basic presets, and various other
things. I use .inc (for inclusion) as the file extension, so I can
easily differentiate between .php files that customers will use (such as
index.php, admin.php, login.php, etc..), and the included files.
In the header file I usually have something like that below.
--- header.inc starts below this line ---
- Insert Company or Website Name
HEADER INFORMATION (or image) HERE
array( 'name' => 'Home',
'url' => 'index.php?page=Contact',
'title' => 'The home page'),
1 => array('name' =>
'Contact' ,
'url'
=> 'index.php?page=Contact',
'title' => 'The contact details')
);
?>
*$nav_list*)
{
echo ''. *$nav_list*['name'] . '';
}
?>
--- END header.inc --
In the header.inc I've manually created an array, then got PHP to go
through the array to add the name, URL and other details from the array,
but that's just to simplify this, usually I pull the navigation data
from a database (or if there's no MySQL installed I might unserialise it
from a file).
There are other ways of pulling the data. If you want nice URLs, you can
have something like /pages/Home/ and then have a mod_rewrite rule in
Apache to then change that into index.php?page=Home, (although you'll
also need to change the to the new links. If you aren't running
on apache, you can manually find the page information by doing
print_r($_SERVER), and seeing what bits and pieces you can put together,
but that's not nearly as good or reliable.
Sorry if there's too much info, but I'm guessing this is roughly what
you'll be doing.
If you want to have more than one variable (like say a sub page) then
you add *&* between each variable. E.g
Home -
Archived News
You can usually get away with just using *&* as the separator but it
probably won't validate properly if your making it in xhtml (as you
should be). Also, if your not sure what the %20 means (a space) then
look up urlencode
and urldecode .
Michael Kubler
*G*rey *P*hoenix *P*roductions
Christopher W wrote:
At least I hope it is simple...
I am trying to get an HTML menu link to set a variable's value. For
example, when a user clicks the "Home" button on my page it would cause
$page = "home"; or clicking the "About Us" button will set $page="about_us";
etc.
I think this should be fairly simple but being completely new to php I just
cannot seem to get it right.
Any help would be greatly appreciate.
Thank you in advance.
[PHP] New PHP User with a simple question
At least I hope it is simple... I am trying to get an HTML menu link to set a variable's value. For example, when a user clicks the "Home" button on my page it would cause $page = "home"; or clicking the "About Us" button will set $page="about_us"; etc. I think this should be fairly simple but being completely new to php I just cannot seem to get it right. Any help would be greatly appreciate. Thank you in advance. -- -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
