Re: [PHP] PHP book recommendations

2005-02-21 Thread Judson Vaughn
I second O'Reilly's PHP Cookbook.  Another recommendation is Larry 
Ullman's books, especially HP Advanced for the World Wide Web. I try to 
triangulate, using several books that come at the code differently.

Jud.
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Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
* Daniel Purdy [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 

[snip]
I'm looking for an easy to read PHP book that will help me learn a solid
foundation in PHP.
I'm already familiar with the language but want to make sure I'm coding
in the most efficient manner.
What's a few of the better books out there?
[/snip]
[snip jblanchard:]
I personally like the O'Reilly books on PHP, especially the PHP Cookbook
[/snip]
My personal favorites are the ones with the bright red covers published
by wrox (they are usually just titled the language, so in this case
PHP). I have found they provide excellent quick reference and also are
great for sitting down and reading through to get a better grasp of the
language. HTH!
   

I cannot disagree more. I have a copy of Professional PHP Programming
from circa 2000. It has a ton of real-world examples... that are
completely insecure and display really bad programming habits.
Additionally, the function listings at the back are not indexed, so if
you don't know, for instance, that the function 'split' is a regular
expression function, you'll never find it. The HTML reference was
complete fluff (shouldn't have even been in the book). 

I honestly haven't found an introductory PHP book I could recommend --
I'd look for a good book on programming and/or programming practices for
the web, and then figure out how to translate that into PHP (using
php.net as a reference).
 

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Re: [PHP] PHP book recommendations

2005-02-21 Thread M. Sokolewicz
O`Reilly's programming PHP is quite good too :)
Judson Vaughn wrote:
I second O'Reilly's PHP Cookbook.  Another recommendation is Larry 
Ullman's books, especially HP Advanced for the World Wide Web. I try to 
triangulate, using several books that come at the code differently.

Jud.
Judson Vaughn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Seiter Vaughn  Communications
12455 Plowman Court
Herndon, VA 20170
703.450.9740
svc

Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
* Daniel Purdy [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 

[snip]
I'm looking for an easy to read PHP book that will help me learn a solid
foundation in PHP.
I'm already familiar with the language but want to make sure I'm coding
in the most efficient manner.
What's a few of the better books out there?
[/snip]
[snip jblanchard:]
I personally like the O'Reilly books on PHP, especially the PHP Cookbook
[/snip]
My personal favorites are the ones with the bright red covers published
by wrox (they are usually just titled the language, so in this case
PHP). I have found they provide excellent quick reference and also are
great for sitting down and reading through to get a better grasp of the
language. HTH!
  

I cannot disagree more. I have a copy of Professional PHP Programming
from circa 2000. It has a ton of real-world examples... that are
completely insecure and display really bad programming habits.
Additionally, the function listings at the back are not indexed, so if
you don't know, for instance, that the function 'split' is a regular
expression function, you'll never find it. The HTML reference was
complete fluff (shouldn't have even been in the book).
I honestly haven't found an introductory PHP book I could recommend --
I'd look for a good book on programming and/or programming practices for
the web, and then figure out how to translate that into PHP (using
php.net as a reference).
 

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Re: [PHP] PHP book recommendations

2005-02-15 Thread Chris Shiflett
--- Bosky, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm looking for an easy to read PHP book that will help me learn a
 solid foundation in PHP.

If you need a strong foundation:

http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/learnphp5/

If you already have a strong foundation:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0672325616

Hope that helps.

Chris

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Re: [PHP] PHP book recommendations

2005-02-15 Thread Joe Harman
personally, I like Julie Meloni's books... PHP essentials.. and fast
and easy web development... these were some of the first books that i
bought and got started with... they are pretty easy to use, especially
if you are not into reading technical manuals

http://www.thickbook.com



On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:20:05 -0500, Joe Harman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 sorry... wrong address
 
 
 On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:19:46 -0500, Joe Harman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  personally, I like Julie Meloni's books... PHP essentials.. and fast
  and easy web development... these were some of the first books that i
  bought and got started with... they are pretty easy to use, especially
  if you are not into reading technical manuals
 
 
  On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 08:54:14 -0800 (PST), Chris Shiflett
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   --- Bosky, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm looking for an easy to read PHP book that will help me learn a
solid foundation in PHP.
  
   If you need a strong foundation:
  
   http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/learnphp5/
  
   If you already have a strong foundation:
  
   http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0672325616
  
   Hope that helps.
  
   Chris
  
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   Coming Soon http://httphandbook.org/
  
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RE: [PHP] PHP book recommendations

2005-02-15 Thread yangshiqi
I enjoy the Core PHP Programming, Third Edition by Leon Atkinson very
much.

 
Best regards,
Yang Shiqi
 
 
 
-Original Message-
From: Joe Harman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 3:20 AM
To: php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP book recommendations

personally, I like Julie Meloni's books... PHP essentials.. and fast
and easy web development... these were some of the first books that i
bought and got started with... they are pretty easy to use, especially
if you are not into reading technical manuals

http://www.thickbook.com



On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:20:05 -0500, Joe Harman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 sorry... wrong address
 
 
 On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:19:46 -0500, Joe Harman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  personally, I like Julie Meloni's books... PHP essentials.. and fast
  and easy web development... these were some of the first books that i
  bought and got started with... they are pretty easy to use, especially
  if you are not into reading technical manuals
 
 
  On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 08:54:14 -0800 (PST), Chris Shiflett
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   --- Bosky, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm looking for an easy to read PHP book that will help me learn a
solid foundation in PHP.
  
   If you need a strong foundation:
  
   http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/learnphp5/
  
   If you already have a strong foundation:
  
   http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0672325616
  
   Hope that helps.
  
   Chris
  
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   Coming Soon http://httphandbook.org/
  
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[PHP] PHP book recommendations

2005-02-14 Thread Bosky, Dave
I'm looking for an easy to read PHP book that will help me learn a solid
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I'm already familiar with the language but want to make sure I'm coding in
the most efficient manner.

What's a few of the better books out there?



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RE: [PHP] PHP book recommendations

2005-02-14 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip]
I'm looking for an easy to read PHP book that will help me learn a solid
foundation in PHP.

I'm already familiar with the language but want to make sure I'm coding
in
the most efficient manner.

What's a few of the better books out there?
[/snip]

I personally like the O'Reilly books on PHP, especially the PHP Cookbook

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RE: [PHP] PHP book recommendations

2005-02-14 Thread Daniel Purdy

[snip]
I'm looking for an easy to read PHP book that will help me learn a solid
foundation in PHP.

I'm already familiar with the language but want to make sure I'm coding
in the most efficient manner.

What's a few of the better books out there?
[/snip]
[snip jblanchard:]
I personally like the O'Reilly books on PHP, especially the PHP Cookbook
[/snip]


My personal favorites are the ones with the bright red covers published
by wrox (they are usually just titled the language, so in this case
PHP). I have found they provide excellent quick reference and also are
great for sitting down and reading through to get a better grasp of the
language. HTH!
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Re: [PHP] PHP book recommendations

2005-02-14 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
* Daniel Purdy [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 [snip]
 I'm looking for an easy to read PHP book that will help me learn a solid
 foundation in PHP.

 I'm already familiar with the language but want to make sure I'm coding
 in the most efficient manner.

 What's a few of the better books out there?
 [/snip]
 [snip jblanchard:]
 I personally like the O'Reilly books on PHP, especially the PHP Cookbook
 [/snip]


 My personal favorites are the ones with the bright red covers published
 by wrox (they are usually just titled the language, so in this case
 PHP). I have found they provide excellent quick reference and also are
 great for sitting down and reading through to get a better grasp of the
 language. HTH!

I cannot disagree more. I have a copy of Professional PHP Programming
from circa 2000. It has a ton of real-world examples... that are
completely insecure and display really bad programming habits.
Additionally, the function listings at the back are not indexed, so if
you don't know, for instance, that the function 'split' is a regular
expression function, you'll never find it. The HTML reference was
complete fluff (shouldn't have even been in the book). 

I honestly haven't found an introductory PHP book I could recommend --
I'd look for a good book on programming and/or programming practices for
the web, and then figure out how to translate that into PHP (using
php.net as a reference).

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RE: [PHP] PHP Book Recommendations

2001-02-17 Thread Boaz Yahav

And I remind you all to buy them at WeberDev.com and help
us pay the hosting :)

Sincerely

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Visit http://www.weberdev.com Today!!! 
To see where PHP might take you tomorrow.
 

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Can I get some recommendations on some good PHP
books. Something broad but with good novice
concepts

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[PHP] PHP Book Recommendations

2001-02-16 Thread Brian V Bonini

Can I get some recommendations on some good PHP
books. Something broad but with good novice
concepts

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Re: [PHP] PHP Book Recommendations

2001-02-16 Thread Egon Schmid (@vacation)

Brian V Bonini wrote:
 
 Can I get some recommendations on some good PHP
 books. Something broad but with good novice
 concepts

There are many at http://php.net/books.php. Maybe Leon Atkinsons Core
PHP (second edition) or Sterling Hughes Developer's Cookbook.

-Egon

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Re: [PHP] PHP Book Recommendations

2001-02-16 Thread ..s.c.o.t.t.. [gts]

I agree...

The red book "Professional PHP Programming"
(WROX "Programmer to Programmer" series)
is an exellent PHP book

but, if you're looking for novice level stuff, WROX
also published a companion called "Beginning PHP4".

i was fluent in perl when i picked up the professional
one, and had no problems with it... but i wouldnt 
reccomend it to people with little or no programming
experience... the professional book seems to take for 
granted a grasp of fundamental programming concepts,
if you're a true novice, get the "beginning php4" one
first (and then professional :)



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Re: [PHP] PHP Book Recommendations

2001-02-16 Thread Philip Olson


The most useful "second" book is :

PHP Developers Cookbook

It really is nice.  I say "second" because it's geared towards those that
understand a bit already but still, it'll even help the complete newbie
(easy to read).  Excellent tips, short-cuts, examples, etc.  Includes uses
of various PEAR classes too.

Regards,

Philip


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