Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
Hello, on 02/06/2007 01:25 PM tedd said the following: Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. gets me preference ??? Me get any money for this? Hey, go easy on the non-native speakers... I'm betting your Spanish is worse than his English... No doubt -- I have enough problems with English. My point was, or at least my failed attempt was: 1) humor; 2) pointing out a proof reading error in a request for roof reading skills. I found that ironically humorous. No disrespect was intended, it was just a jab between posters. My apologies if any offense was taken. Cheers, tedd PS: He is a native speaker, it's just not English. :-) No offense was taken on my part. I am aware that the PHPClasses site is not perfect for everybody. So, when I mention something in public related to the site, I am used to get reactions that really do not favour the site. I do not take that personally though that site is basically run by MMI (Me, Myself and I). -- Regards, Manuel Lemos Metastorage - Data object relational mapping layer generator http://www.metastorage.net/ PHP Classes - Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP http://www.phpclasses.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
Hello, on 02/06/2007 01:29 PM tedd said the following: Anyway, since you brought that up, I would like to clarify that this is often misunderstood issue. Nobody likes ads, including myself. Ads are obviously necessary to keep the site viable. Otherwise it would have been closed a long time ago. Why are ads necessary? I don't follow. Pay the bills. It may not be evident, but this is my full time day job. This is not an hobby site. Not only the site needs to generate revenue to pay for its operation costs, but also to keep me working full time on it. It is a privilege for me to be able to work in my own project at full time. But obviously I have to keep it as a viable business too. That is why the site would have been closed if it were not the ads. -- Regards, Manuel Lemos Metastorage - Data object relational mapping layer generator http://www.metastorage.net/ PHP Classes - Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP http://www.phpclasses.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
Hello, on 02/07/2007 01:53 AM Richard Lynch said the following: Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. gets me preference ??? Me get any money for this? Hey, go easy on the non-native speakers... I'm betting your Spanish is worse than his English... Thanks for helping to clarify the native speakers. Just a minor correction. My Spanish is not better than my English. I am a native Portuguese speaker. ;-) cultural_momentPortuguese is also a latin based language like Spanish, French, Italian and Romanian, but it is a distinct idiom./cultural_moment Dang I'm felling stoopid. I even have all the facts in my brain to have not made that mistake, had I matched up column M with row P... Sorry. No problem. No apologies are necessary. Nobody knows everything. Even if you knew it, it is ok to get confused once in a while. My memory used to be better when I was younger, or at least when I did not have to work overnight. -- Regards, Manuel Lemos Metastorage - Data object relational mapping layer generator http://www.metastorage.net/ PHP Classes - Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP http://www.phpclasses.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
At 8:39 PM -0600 2/5/07, Richard Lynch wrote: On Mon, February 5, 2007 10:09 am, tedd wrote: At 1:05 AM -0200 2/5/07, Manuel Lemos wrote: Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. gets me preference ??? Me get any money for this? Hey, go easy on the non-native speakers... I'm betting your Spanish is worse than his English... No doubt -- I have enough problems with English. My point was, or at least my failed attempt was: 1) humor; 2) pointing out a proof reading error in a request for roof reading skills. I found that ironically humorous. No disrespect was intended, it was just a jab between posters. My apologies if any offense was taken. Cheers, tedd PS: He is a native speaker, it's just not English. :-) -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
At 4:04 AM -0200 2/6/07, Manuel Lemos wrote: Anyway, since you brought that up, I would like to clarify that this is often misunderstood issue. Nobody likes ads, including myself. Ads are obviously necessary to keep the site viable. Otherwise it would have been closed a long time ago. Why are ads necessary? I don't follow. tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
tedd wrote: My point was, or at least my failed attempt was: 1) humor; 2) pointing out a proof reading error in a request for roof reading skills. I found that ironically humorous. HumoUrous roof reading skills you've got there. No disrespect was intended, it was just a jab between posters. Indeed. -Stut -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
On Tue, February 6, 2007 12:04 am, Manuel Lemos wrote: Hello, on 02/06/2007 12:39 AM Richard Lynch said the following: Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. gets me preference ??? Me get any money for this? Hey, go easy on the non-native speakers... I'm betting your Spanish is worse than his English... Thanks for helping to clarify the native speakers. Just a minor correction. My Spanish is not better than my English. I am a native Portuguese speaker. ;-) cultural_momentPortuguese is also a latin based language like Spanish, French, Italian and Romanian, but it is a distinct idiom./cultural_moment Dang I'm felling stoopid. I even have all the facts in my brain to have not made that mistake, had I matched up column M with row P... Sorry. -- Some people have a gift link here. Know what I want? I want you to buy a CD from some starving artist. http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch Yeah, I get a buck. So? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
At 1:05 AM -0200 2/5/07, Manuel Lemos wrote: Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. gets me preference ??? Me get any money for this? tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 11:09 -0500, tedd wrote: At 1:05 AM -0200 2/5/07, Manuel Lemos wrote: Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. gets me preference ??? Me get any money for this? No money you get! Tingly feeling of goodwill spread throughout you it will. Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
-Message d'origine- De : tedd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : lundi 5 février 2007 17:10 À : Manuel Lemos; php-general@lists.php.net Objet : Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted At 1:05 AM -0200 2/5/07, Manuel Lemos wrote: Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. gets me preference ??? Quote: good English writing skills :P Me get any money for this? tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
How many book reviews do you suppose Manuel has written in his life time? - Craige On 2/5/07, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Message d'origine- De: tedd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé: lundi 5 février 2007 17:10 À: Manuel Lemos; php-general@lists.php.net Objet: Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted At 1:05 AM -0200 2/5/07, Manuel Lemos wrote: Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. gets me preference ??? Quote: good English writing skills :P Me get any money for this? tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
At 11:14 AM -0500 2/5/07, Robert Cummings wrote: On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 11:09 -0500, tedd wrote: At 1:05 AM -0200 2/5/07, Manuel Lemos wrote: Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. gets me preference ??? Me get any money for this? No money you get! Tingly feeling of goodwill spread throughout you it will. Will what? Tingly feeling? Tingly feeling? I don't need no stinking tingly feeling! Paraphrased from Treasure of Sierra Madre -- but somehow, it doesn't sound right. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
Hello, on 02/05/2007 02:09 PM tedd said the following: At 1:05 AM -0200 2/5/07, Manuel Lemos wrote: Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. gets me preference ??? Me get any money for this? Good catch! ;-) Those that never commited a typo, throw the first stone! Oh, you just did! ;-) -- Regards, Manuel Lemos Metastorage - Data object relational mapping layer generator http://www.metastorage.net/ PHP Classes - Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP http://www.phpclasses.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
Hello, on 02/05/2007 02:14 PM Robert Cummings said the following: Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. gets me preference ??? Me get any money for this? No money you get! Tingly feeling of goodwill spread throughout you it will. Unfortunately, publishing book reviews is not the kind of thing that is worth the time it took me to develop the review system. That was true in the year 2000 and it is still true until today. Anyway, since the system is already done, hopefully it will help all book writers that are brave enough to invest plenty of time writing good PHP books. Often writing books is also not worth the effort. Many authors that try it, only write one book and then give up because the books do not sell enough and they realize they can make more doing something else like consulting. At least maybe the reviews can benefit the authors either helping the books sell more or getting them better known in the community and the consulting business. When that happens, I will be satisfied and feel compensated for all the time I invested in developing the review system. -- Regards, Manuel Lemos Metastorage - Data object relational mapping layer generator http://www.metastorage.net/ PHP Classes - Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP http://www.phpclasses.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
On Mon, February 5, 2007 10:09 am, tedd wrote: At 1:05 AM -0200 2/5/07, Manuel Lemos wrote: Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. gets me preference ??? Me get any money for this? Hey, go easy on the non-native speakers... I'm betting your Spanish is worse than his English... [This is aside from the ads jabs some are taking, which is easy to solve -- don't use his site.] -- Some people have a gift link here. Know what I want? I want you to buy a CD from some starving artist. http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch Yeah, I get a buck. So? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
On Mon, February 5, 2007 10:56 am, Manuel Lemos wrote: Often writing books is also not worth the effort. Many authors that try it, only write one book and then give up because the books do not sell enough and they realize they can make more doing something else like consulting. If writing the book isn't going to get you paying gigs because you're the expert having written the book, then you're almost for sure going to be getting paid less than minimum wage if you account the hours correctly, as I understand it. I can state for certain that being a Tech Reviewer is even worse pay and little odds of it making you any money, really. Though it is a nifty bullet point and gives you something to talk about in a job interview, where it can maybe pay off. -- Some people have a gift link here. Know what I want? I want you to buy a CD from some starving artist. http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch Yeah, I get a buck. So? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
Hello, on 02/06/2007 12:43 AM Richard Lynch said the following: Often writing books is also not worth the effort. Many authors that try it, only write one book and then give up because the books do not sell enough and they realize they can make more doing something else like consulting. If writing the book isn't going to get you paying gigs because you're the expert having written the book, then you're almost for sure going to be getting paid less than minimum wage if you account the hours correctly, as I understand it. Right. Most author write books because they love what they write about. I know very few people that wrote more than one PHP book. Dedicating time writing books is a big sacrifice. It is not the most efficient way to make a living. Anyway, keep in mind that a US minimum wage is a reasonable amount of money for people in other countries. Writing books is not such a bad money if they get published by an US or European publisher. The whole PHP community that buy their books should be thankful because some writers work very hard to make a living. Some authors of books that I reviewed in the PHPClasses site have written me asking if I could review their new books. If that encourages them to keep writing good books, I am pleased to help them. Unfortunately I do not have the time to review all books that I am asked to review. That is why I am encouraging other people with more time than me to work on it. I can state for certain that being a Tech Reviewer is even worse pay and little odds of it making you any money, really. Though it is a nifty bullet point and gives you something to talk about in a job interview, where it can maybe pay off. Right. Anyway, I am not talking about being Tech Reviewer of books that were not yet published. I am talking about published books, so there is not even a money compensation for people that publish reviews in the PHPClasses site. The only compensation is that reviewers will keep the review copies for themselves. -- Regards, Manuel Lemos Metastorage - Data object relational mapping layer generator http://www.metastorage.net/ PHP Classes - Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP http://www.phpclasses.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
Hello, on 02/06/2007 12:39 AM Richard Lynch said the following: Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. gets me preference ??? Me get any money for this? Hey, go easy on the non-native speakers... I'm betting your Spanish is worse than his English... Thanks for helping to clarify the native speakers. Just a minor correction. My Spanish is not better than my English. I am a native Portuguese speaker. ;-) cultural_momentPortuguese is also a latin based language like Spanish, French, Italian and Romanian, but it is a distinct idiom./cultural_moment [This is aside from the ads jabs some are taking, which is easy to solve -- don't use his site.] Right. After all everybody is free to go anywhere you want or not, with or without ads. Anyway, since you brought that up, I would like to clarify that this is often misunderstood issue. Nobody likes ads, including myself. Ads are obviously necessary to keep the site viable. Otherwise it would have been closed a long time ago. Anyway, for those very intolerant to ads, at least there is an option in the user options page that the can check to disable pop under and interstitial ads. This was never a secret, but I am not encouraging anybody to use that option either. The site needs the ad revenue generated by all the advertisiment. That option does not disable all ads, but at least disables probably the most annoying. For those that would like to see no ads at all and benefit from full site loading speed, after almost 5 years of promises, in the next months I will finally launch the package of premium services that among several other interesting benefits, it will provide an ad free site navigation, for a small monthly fee. I know that only those that real care about the site will adhere. But at least there will finally be an option for all those that avoid visiting the site because of the ads. -- Regards, Manuel Lemos Metastorage - Data object relational mapping layer generator http://www.metastorage.net/ PHP Classes - Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP http://www.phpclasses.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
Hello, Short version: the PHPClasses site is looking for reviewers of books of interest of the PHP users. Authors and publishers want to send me the books but nowadays I do not have the time to review most of them, if any. The candidates that are picked to review the available books will get free review copies. Just send a private message to info at phpclasses.org if you are interested. Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. If you have read interesting books, you can submit a review already here (you need to be a site subscriber of course): http://www.phpclasses.org/contribute.html If you have questions or comments, please read the longer version first: http://www.phpclasses.org/blog/post/60-User-submitted-book-reviews-and-package-required-PHP-versions.html -- Regards, Manuel Lemos Metastorage - Data object relational mapping layer generator http://www.metastorage.net/ PHP Classes - Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP http://www.phpclasses.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
