Re: [PHP] PNGs & PHP feedback
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 03:03:42 -0500
Eugene Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...[snip]...
> Yep, M$ has halted development of IE for the Mac for a while. But
> except for your regularly scheduled security fixes, M$ has halted
> development of IE for Windoze as well!
?? That's new! ('Must have been inside my cave for a long time...) I'm
sure next time you're going to tell me that they're "making" a new
standards-compliant browser based on mozilla ;)
> This is really annoying for
> me as a web developer because I can't take full advantage of CSS.
> I stopped using IE to check for the HTML correctness of my PHP code.
> As long as stick with simple CSS features, I now jump between
> Safari, Mozilla, and the W3C validators.
Good idea!
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Re: [PHP] PNGs & PHP feedback
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 04:41:28PM +0900, - Edwin - wrote: : : (Sorry if this is becoming OT...) : : Eugene Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: : > : > M$IE for the Mac uses a completely different codebase from the : > Windoze version and started with the home-grown Tasman engine, which : > at the time was probably the most standards-compliant engine : > compared to anything else on any other platform. : : "Surprise, surprise!" ? I heard they stopped the development of IE for : Mac. Too bad... Yep, M$ has halted development of IE for the Mac for a while. But except for your regularly scheduled security fixes, M$ has halted development of IE for Windoze as well! This is really annoying for me as a web developer because I can't take full advantage of CSS. I stopped using IE to check for the HTML correctness of my PHP code. As long as stick with simple CSS features, I now jump between Safari, Mozilla, and the W3C validators. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PNGs & PHP feedback
(Sorry if this is becoming OT...) Eugene Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (about M$IE and PNG) > > On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 11:31:46AM +0900, - Edwin - wrote: > : > : Curt Zirzow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > : > > : > It does have a problem reading alpha channels in the pngs > though.: > : Quite true. (I "forgot" that part...) Though it seems like it's > not a: problem for the IE on Macs... > > M$IE for the Mac uses a completely different codebase from the > Windoze version and started with the home-grown Tasman engine, which > at the time was probably the most standards-compliant engine > compared to anything else on any other platform. "Surprise, surprise!" ? I heard they stopped the development of IE for Mac. Too bad... > : ...and then I thought IE's problems were all about security and > : non-standard tags... ;) > > The M$ way is "embrace, extend, extinguish". > > http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish 'Seems like ^this^ doesn't work on OS X... Or, maybe they'll find a way to "buy" Safari? ;) - E - __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! BB is Broadband by Yahoo! http://bb.yahoo.co.jp/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PNGs & PHP feedback
(about M$IE and PNG) On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 11:31:46AM +0900, - Edwin - wrote: : : Curt Zirzow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: : > : > It does have a problem reading alpha channels in the pngs though. : : Quite true. (I "forgot" that part...) Though it seems like it's not a : problem for the IE on Macs... M$IE for the Mac uses a completely different codebase from the Windoze version and started with the home-grown Tasman engine, which at the time was probably the most standards-compliant engine compared to anything else on any other platform. : ...and then I thought IE's problems were all about security and : non-standard tags... ;) The M$ way is "embrace, extend, extinguish". http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PNGs & PHP feedback
Hi, Curt Zirzow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > It does have a problem reading alpha channels in the pngs > though. [/snip] Quite true. (I "forgot" that part...) Though it seems like it's not a problem for the IE on Macs... ...and then I thought IE's problems were all about security and non-standard tags... ;) - E - __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! BB is Broadband by Yahoo! http://bb.yahoo.co.jp/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PNGs & PHP feedback
* Thus wrote - Edwin - ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Hi, > > Eugene Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 02:40:42AM -0400, Joe Harman wrote: > > : > > : I am looking for some guidance... I am using PHP to make dynamic > > : buttons... Is the PNG image format a pretty safe thing to go with... > > : Standard wise? > > > > PNG support in M$ IE is still shaky. > > I think I've seen this problem when the images are viewed *individually* using IE. > However, there seems to be no problem when it's "inside" an HTML page... It does have a problem reading alpha channels in the pngs though. Curt -- "I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not so sure." -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PNGs & PHP feedback
Hi, Eugene Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 02:40:42AM -0400, Joe Harman wrote: > : > : I am looking for some guidance... I am using PHP to make dynamic > : buttons... Is the PNG image format a pretty safe thing to go with... > : Standard wise? > > PNG support in M$ IE is still shaky. I think I've seen this problem when the images are viewed *individually* using IE. However, there seems to be no problem when it's "inside" an HTML page... - E - __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! BB is Broadband by Yahoo! http://bb.yahoo.co.jp/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PNGs & PHP feedback
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 02:40:42AM -0400, Joe Harman wrote: : : I am looking for some guidance... I am using PHP to make dynamic : buttons... Is the PNG image format a pretty safe thing to go with... : Standard wise? PNG support in M$ IE is still shaky. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] PNGs & PHP feedback
Hello, I am looking for some guidance... I am using PHP to make dynamic buttons... Is the PNG image format a pretty safe thing to go with... Standard wise? Thanks for your input. Joe -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
