Re: [PHP] Random 404 screens

2013-02-10 Thread Jim Giner

On 2/9/2013 11:58 AM, Mike Mackintosh wrote:



On Saturday, February 9, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Geoff Shang wrote:


On Sat, 9 Feb 2013, Jim Giner wrote:


Lately, my web pages are giving me some problems. Once a day or so one or
more of my pages/scripts will give me a 404 error page saying my web page has
timed out. Problem is that the page was just displayed. I click on a link,
the page shows up, I click on a button on it to trigger some activity and
voila! An error. I hit refresh and my page is back and things work ok.




Since someone mentioned network issues, I will ask this question.

Is it actually a 404 page? That is to say, does the string 404
actually appear in the error document?

If it does, then this would rule out your home network, as 404 is a
response code returned by the webserver.

Geoff.


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What about your HTTP server (Apache, nginx, lighttpd)? Is is overloaded or all 
child-threads/workers busy?

I have no idea about how the host server is performing - but this has 
not happened before now.


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Re: [PHP] Random 404 screens

2013-02-10 Thread Andy McKenzie
On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Geoff Shang ge...@quitelikely.com wrote:
 On Sat, 9 Feb 2013, Jim Giner wrote:

 Lately, my web pages are giving me some problems.  Once a day or so one or
 more of my pages/scripts will give me a 404 error page saying my web page
 has timed out.  Problem is that the page was just displayed.  I click on a
 link, the page shows up, I click on a button on it to trigger some activity
 and voila!  An error.  I hit refresh and my page is back and things work ok.


 Since someone mentioned network issues, I will ask this question.

 Is it actually a 404 page?  That is to say, does the string 404 actually
 appear in the error document?

 If it does, then this would rule out your home network, as 404 is a response
 code returned by the webserver.

 Geoff.



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This is a good point, and one I hadn't thought of.  I saw Network
time out and thought network problems, but Geoff is right.  If it's
actually a 404, it's not a network problem between you and the server.

-Andy

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Re: [PHP] Random 404 screens

2013-02-10 Thread Jim Giner

On 2/10/2013 12:45 PM, Andy McKenzie wrote:

On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Geoff Shang ge...@quitelikely.com wrote:

On Sat, 9 Feb 2013, Jim Giner wrote:


Lately, my web pages are giving me some problems.  Once a day or so one or
more of my pages/scripts will give me a 404 error page saying my web page
has timed out.  Problem is that the page was just displayed.  I click on a
link, the page shows up, I click on a button on it to trigger some activity
and voila!  An error.  I hit refresh and my page is back and things work ok.



Since someone mentioned network issues, I will ask this question.

Is it actually a 404 page?  That is to say, does the string 404 actually
appear in the error document?

If it does, then this would rule out your home network, as 404 is a response
code returned by the webserver.

Geoff.



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This is a good point, and one I hadn't thought of.  I saw Network
time out and thought network problems, but Geoff is right.  If it's
actually a 404, it's not a network problem between you and the server.

-Andy

The page has a 404 code in it.  Next time I see one (been good today 
so far) I'll c/p it in here.


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Re: [PHP] Random 404 screens

2013-02-10 Thread Matijn Woudt
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 6:53 PM, Jim Giner jim.gi...@albanyhandball.comwrote:

 On 2/10/2013 12:45 PM, Andy McKenzie wrote:

 On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Geoff Shang ge...@quitelikely.com
 wrote:

 On Sat, 9 Feb 2013, Jim Giner wrote:

  Lately, my web pages are giving me some problems.  Once a day or so one
 or
 more of my pages/scripts will give me a 404 error page saying my web
 page
 has timed out.  Problem is that the page was just displayed.  I click
 on a
 link, the page shows up, I click on a button on it to trigger some
 activity
 and voila!  An error.  I hit refresh and my page is back and things
 work ok.



 Since someone mentioned network issues, I will ask this question.

 Is it actually a 404 page?  That is to say, does the string 404
 actually
 appear in the error document?

 If it does, then this would rule out your home network, as 404 is a
 response
 code returned by the webserver.

 Geoff.



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 This is a good point, and one I hadn't thought of.  I saw Network
 time out and thought network problems, but Geoff is right.  If it's
 actually a 404, it's not a network problem between you and the server.

 -Andy

  The page has a 404 code in it.  Next time I see one (been good today
 so far) I'll c/p it in here.


There are btw much web servers that provide an error, and then give an 404
error because they can't find an error page for that error code.

- Matijn


Re: [PHP] Random 404 screens

2013-02-10 Thread Jim Giner
Im pretty sure its not a script error cause it always works a second later

jg


On Feb 10, 2013, at 2:48 PM, Matijn Woudt tijn...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 
 
 On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 6:53 PM, Jim Giner jim.gi...@albanyhandball.com 
 wrote:
 On 2/10/2013 12:45 PM, Andy McKenzie wrote:
 On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Geoff Shang ge...@quitelikely.com wrote:
 On Sat, 9 Feb 2013, Jim Giner wrote:
 
 Lately, my web pages are giving me some problems.  Once a day or so one or
 more of my pages/scripts will give me a 404 error page saying my web page
 has timed out.  Problem is that the page was just displayed.  I click on a
 link, the page shows up, I click on a button on it to trigger some activity
 and voila!  An error.  I hit refresh and my page is back and things work ok.
 
 
 Since someone mentioned network issues, I will ask this question.
 
 Is it actually a 404 page?  That is to say, does the string 404 actually
 appear in the error document?
 
 If it does, then this would rule out your home network, as 404 is a response
 code returned by the webserver.
 
 Geoff.
 
 
 
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 This is a good point, and one I hadn't thought of.  I saw Network
 time out and thought network problems, but Geoff is right.  If it's
 actually a 404, it's not a network problem between you and the server.
 
 -Andy
 
 The page has a 404 code in it.  Next time I see one (been good today so 
 far) I'll c/p it in here.
 
 
 There are btw much web servers that provide an error, and then give an 404 
 error because they can't find an error page for that error code.
 
 - Matijn


[PHP] Random 404 screens

2013-02-09 Thread Jim Giner

This is a tough one.

Lately, my web pages are giving me some problems.  Once a day or so one 
or more of my pages/scripts will give me a 404 error page saying my web 
page has timed out.  Problem is that the page was just displayed.  I 
click on a link, the page shows up, I click on a button on it to trigger 
some activity and voila!  An error.  I hit refresh and my page is back 
and things work ok.


Some background.  My pages/appls/development does not do much of 
anything other than record/display stuff from my dbs and show off some 
pics.  Nothing fancy other than some js to enhance the viewing of these 
pages.  No playing with anything time-related and very few cookies.  So 
I don't have a clue as to what constitues a web page timeout.


Can anyone enlighten me as to what I should be looking for here?  Or 
even if it is something I'm the cause of?


For those who wish to experiment my site is jimginer dot net.  Can't 
guarantee you'll get the error, but you might.


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Re: [PHP] Random 404 screens

2013-02-09 Thread Andy McKenzie
On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Jim Giner jim.gi...@albanyhandball.com wrote:
 This is a tough one.

 Lately, my web pages are giving me some problems.  Once a day or so one or
 more of my pages/scripts will give me a 404 error page saying my web page
 has timed out.  Problem is that the page was just displayed.  I click on a
 link, the page shows up, I click on a button on it to trigger some activity
 and voila!  An error.  I hit refresh and my page is back and things work ok.

 Some background.  My pages/appls/development does not do much of anything
 other than record/display stuff from my dbs and show off some pics.  Nothing
 fancy other than some js to enhance the viewing of these pages.  No playing
 with anything time-related and very few cookies.  So I don't have a clue as
 to what constitues a web page timeout.

 Can anyone enlighten me as to what I should be looking for here?  Or even if
 it is something I'm the cause of?

 For those who wish to experiment my site is jimginer dot net.  Can't
 guarantee you'll get the error, but you might.

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Smart money is that it's nothing to do with you;  in my experience,
that's usually a network problem.  It could be on your end (I'm seeing
that a lot more often now that I've moved to a new house, or it could
be a problem with the server's connection.

I just loaded your page half a dozen times in short succession, and it
was fine, so that makes me think it's likely to be at your end...  or
somewhere between you and the server, you never know.

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Re: [PHP] Random 404 screens

2013-02-09 Thread Jim Giner

On 2/9/2013 11:21 AM, Andy McKenzie wrote:



Smart money is that it's nothing to do with you;  in my experience,
that's usually a network problem.  It could be on your end (I'm seeing
that a lot more often now that I've moved to a new house, or it could
be a problem with the server's connection.

I just loaded your page half a dozen times in short succession, and it
was fine, so that makes me think it's likely to be at your end...  or
somewhere between you and the server, you never know.

Well I feel better about my work - but now I guess I have to investigate 
if my home network is having a problem.


Thanks for taking the time.

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Re: [PHP] Random 404 screens

2013-02-09 Thread Geoff Shang

On Sat, 9 Feb 2013, Jim Giner wrote:

Lately, my web pages are giving me some problems.  Once a day or so one or 
more of my pages/scripts will give me a 404 error page saying my web page has 
timed out.  Problem is that the page was just displayed.  I click on a link, 
the page shows up, I click on a button on it to trigger some activity and 
voila!  An error.  I hit refresh and my page is back and things work ok.


Since someone mentioned network issues, I will ask this question.

Is it actually a 404 page?  That is to say, does the string 404 
actually appear in the error document?


If it does, then this would rule out your home network, as 404 is a 
response code returned by the webserver.


Geoff.


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Re: [PHP] Random 404 screens

2013-02-09 Thread Mike Mackintosh


On Saturday, February 9, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Geoff Shang wrote:

 On Sat, 9 Feb 2013, Jim Giner wrote:
 
  Lately, my web pages are giving me some problems. Once a day or so one or 
  more of my pages/scripts will give me a 404 error page saying my web page 
  has 
  timed out. Problem is that the page was just displayed. I click on a link, 
  the page shows up, I click on a button on it to trigger some activity and 
  voila! An error. I hit refresh and my page is back and things work ok.
  
 
 
 Since someone mentioned network issues, I will ask this question.
 
 Is it actually a 404 page? That is to say, does the string 404 
 actually appear in the error document?
 
 If it does, then this would rule out your home network, as 404 is a 
 response code returned by the webserver.
 
 Geoff.
 
 
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What about your HTTP server (Apache, nginx, lighttpd)? Is is overloaded or all 
child-threads/workers busy?