Re: [PHP] Schedule tasks from server
On Mon, February 4, 2008 8:30 am, Pieter du Toit wrote: > Is there a way that i can schedule tasks on my webserver that will > automatically fire on a certain time and date, without anyone visiting > the > website? > > This domain is hosted by a ISP and not by me. There is a low-level utility in Windows DOS whose name is "at" which is not unlike the lower-level command line utility in *nix named "at" (read: they're the same). So, in theory, on a Windows box, even if you don't have access to the fancy "Scheduled Tasks" GUI, one might have access to "at" in a DOS prompt... You could also grab any old box in your closet, throw Linux on it, and toss your code in to see if it runs, and try to assess how much work it would be to migrate. And, finally, for those stuck with horrible webhosts who provide no access to cron or a Windows-equivalent, there are free services out there that will "cron" an HTTP request for you. You then build a PHP script for that external service to visit that fires off whatever you want. You may or may not want to do things like password-protect it (and provide the http://user:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/daily.php URL to it) or perhaps have some logic in the code to make sure it doesn't run "too often" in some kind of denial of service attack. PS If your site gets at least SOME traffic, you could also Google for PHP solutions where you include something on your homepage that checks the DB for events that need doing. There used to be more than a few of these, back in the days when various "panels" (ugh!) didn't provide cron access. -- Some people have a "gift" link here. Know what I want? I want you to buy a CD from some indie artist. http://cdbaby.com/from/lynch Yeah, I get a buck. So? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Schedule tasks from server
Pieter du Toit wrote: 98% of the pages is PHP, and i dont know if all my code is *nix compatable, it should be, but i dont want to take the risk by moving, i already have to much to do still. As Richard said ,theirs the task scheduler in windows, but I would go with Paul's suggestion and move your site to a linux box, it will probably be better in the long run. Clive "Paul Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 16:46 +0200, Pieter du Toit wrote: I am using paradigmsolutions.co.za. I read about cronjobs, but aparently it is only available on unix or linux hosting, is this true? Well, why not just host on *nix then? I see your site is a MS Frontpage one, but most linux based ISP's also support that anyway. That way you get the best of both worlds. Err, just one question though, if you are using FP, where does the PHP come in? --Paul All Email originating from UWC is covered by disclaimer http://www.uwc.ac.za/portal/public/portal_services/disclaimer.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Schedule tasks from server
On Feb 4, 2008 11:05 AM, Richard Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > your code should be portable > >> > >> Except in reality, it probably isn't. Off the top of my head, think file > >> paths. > > > > Which is why I mentioned the exec() family. Otherwise, relative > > paths for includes will work regardless of the slash style (*nix / vs > > Windows \) preferred by the OS. Or is my as-still non-caffeinated > > brain missing something obvious here this morning? > > Well exec() et-al aren't the only thing that use paths. You might have > an include/require that begins with "C:\" for example. Which, in itself, is bad construct and makes it non-portable even on fellow Windows machines. -- Daniel P. Brown Senior Unix Geek -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Schedule tasks from server
> your code should be portable Except in reality, it probably isn't. Off the top of my head, think file paths. Which is why I mentioned the exec() family. Otherwise, relative paths for includes will work regardless of the slash style (*nix / vs Windows \) preferred by the OS. Or is my as-still non-caffeinated brain missing something obvious here this morning? Well exec() et-al aren't the only thing that use paths. You might have an include/require that begins with "C:\" for example. -- Richard Heyes http://www.websupportsolutions.co.uk Knowledge Base and Helpdesk software for £299 hosted for you - no installation, no maintenance, new features automatic and free -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Schedule tasks from server
On Feb 4, 2008 10:41 AM, Richard Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > your code should be portable > > Except in reality, it probably isn't. Off the top of my head, think file > paths. Which is why I mentioned the exec() family. Otherwise, relative paths for includes will work regardless of the slash style (*nix / vs Windows \) preferred by the OS. Or is my as-still non-caffeinated brain missing something obvious here this morning? -- Daniel P. Brown Senior Unix Geek -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Schedule tasks from server
> your code should be portable Except in reality, it probably isn't. Off the top of my head, think file paths. -- Richard Heyes http://www.websupportsolutions.co.uk Knowledge Base and Helpdesk software for £299 hosted for you - no installation, no maintenance, new features automatic and free -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Schedule tasks from server
On Feb 4, 2008 10:11 AM, Pieter du Toit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 98% of the pages is PHP, and i dont know if all my code is *nix compatable, > it should be, but i dont want to take the risk by moving, i already have to > much to do still. As I and others have said, Windows has the scheduled tasks equivalent to *nix cron jobs. However, just to add some info on your last message, unless you're using command-line-specific calls to system(), exec(), passthru(), etc., then your code should be portable across across all PHP-supported platforms. The PHP parsing engine is handling the code you write, not the OS. -- Daniel P. Brown Senior Unix Geek -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Schedule tasks from server
98% of the pages is PHP, and i dont know if all my code is *nix compatable, it should be, but i dont want to take the risk by moving, i already have to much to do still. "Paul Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 16:46 +0200, Pieter du Toit wrote: >> I am using paradigmsolutions.co.za. I read about cronjobs, but aparently >> it >> is only available on unix or linux hosting, is this true? > > Well, why not just host on *nix then? I see your site is a MS Frontpage > one, but most linux based ISP's also support that anyway. That way you > get the best of both worlds. > > Err, just one question though, if you are using FP, where does the PHP > come in? > > --Paul > > > All Email originating from UWC is covered by disclaimer > http://www.uwc.ac.za/portal/public/portal_services/disclaimer.htm > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Schedule tasks from server
On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 16:46 +0200, Pieter du Toit wrote: > I am using paradigmsolutions.co.za. I read about cronjobs, but aparently it > is only available on unix or linux hosting, is this true? Well, why not just host on *nix then? I see your site is a MS Frontpage one, but most linux based ISP's also support that anyway. That way you get the best of both worlds. Err, just one question though, if you are using FP, where does the PHP come in? --Paul All Email originating from UWC is covered by disclaimer http://www.uwc.ac.za/portal/public/portal_services/disclaimer.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Schedule tasks from server
I am using paradigmsolutions.co.za. I read about cronjobs, but aparently it is only available on unix or linux hosting, is this true? Cron is a *nix thing yes. Though Windows has the task scheduler. You'll need to check with your ISP to see if it's available or if there's an alternative. -- Richard Heyes http://www.websupportsolutions.co.uk Knowledge Base and Helpdesk software for £299 hosted for you - no installation, no maintenance, new features automatic and free -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Schedule tasks from server
Pieter du Toit wrote: > I am using paradigmsolutions.co.za. I read about cronjobs, but > aparently it is only available on unix or linux hosting, is this true? I'm sure a Windows hosting-setup will have something equivalent. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Schedule tasks from server
On Feb 4, 2008 9:30 AM, Pieter du Toit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi people > > Is there a way that i can schedule tasks on my webserver that will > automatically fire on a certain time and date, without anyone visiting the > website? In any case, yes but the method depends on whether it's a POSIX-based system (*nix, Linux, MacOS, etc.) or Windows machine. On the former, you'd use cron jobs, while on the latter, you'd use scheduled tasks. -- Daniel P. Brown Senior Unix Geek -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Schedule tasks from server
I am using paradigmsolutions.co.za. I read about cronjobs, but aparently it is only available on unix or linux hosting, is this true? "Paul Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 16:30 +0200, Pieter du Toit wrote: >> Is there a way that i can schedule tasks on my webserver that will >> automatically fire on a certain time and date, without anyone visiting >> the >> website? >> >> This domain is hosted by a ISP and not by me. > > Ask your ISP if they support cron jobs - that'll do it. If they don't > then I would suggest moving ISP's. > > I see you have an SA mail address - which ISP are you using? I probably > know the answer already if you can tell me ;) > > --Paul > -- > . > | Chisimba PHP5 Framework - http://avoir.uwc.ac.za | > :: > > > All Email originating from UWC is covered by disclaimer > http://www.uwc.ac.za/portal/public/portal_services/disclaimer.htm > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Schedule tasks from server
On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 16:30 +0200, Pieter du Toit wrote: > Hi people > > Is there a way that i can schedule tasks on my webserver that will > automatically fire on a certain time and date, without anyone visiting the > website? > > This domain is hosted by a ISP and not by me. > > Thanks > afaik you would need to "persuade" your isp to configure a cron-job for you. lg, michi -- Sautergasse 27-29/35 1160 Wien phone: 0043 650 2526276 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.webfischer.at -- __ __ ___ | \/ || __| | |\/| || _| |_| |_||_| -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Schedule tasks from server
On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 16:30 +0200, Pieter du Toit wrote: > Is there a way that i can schedule tasks on my webserver that will > automatically fire on a certain time and date, without anyone visiting the > website? > > This domain is hosted by a ISP and not by me. Ask your ISP if they support cron jobs - that'll do it. If they don't then I would suggest moving ISP's. I see you have an SA mail address - which ISP are you using? I probably know the answer already if you can tell me ;) --Paul -- . | Chisimba PHP5 Framework - http://avoir.uwc.ac.za | :: All Email originating from UWC is covered by disclaimer http://www.uwc.ac.za/portal/public/portal_services/disclaimer.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Schedule tasks from server
Hi people Is there a way that i can schedule tasks on my webserver that will automatically fire on a certain time and date, without anyone visiting the website? This domain is hosted by a ISP and not by me. Thanks -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
