Re: [PHP] namespaces ... coming to a php5.3 near you.

2008-09-12 Thread Robert Cummings
On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 11:39 +0200, Jochem Maas wrote:
> Jochem Maas schreef:
> > has anyone here downloaded/compiled 5.3 and played with namespaces?
> > have you encountered any issues/problems?
> 
> so no-one? really? none of you muppets ever even smelled a namespace?

I like to use techniques that have wide version applicability.
Namespaces are a great feature that I look forward to leveraging, but at
this time they would cause any application to become backward
incompatible with any PHP version less than 5.3. As it stands I've
always been particularly anal about using long class/function names
using the prefix technique to prevent collision.

Normally I'd kick the wheels a bit, but I haven't had a lot of time for
kicking wheels lately :/

Cheers,
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Re: [PHP] namespaces ... coming to a php5.3 near you.

2008-09-12 Thread Jochem Maas

metastable schreef:

Jochem Maas wrote:

Jochem Maas schreef:

has anyone here downloaded/compiled 5.3 and played with namespaces?
have you encountered any issues/problems?


so no-one? really? none of you muppets ever even smelled a namespace?

I'd like to hear from you as I've been asked to compile a reference 
documenting anything/everything
people may have come across (so far as namespaces go), if you have 
some reproduce code, all

the better.

rgds,
Jochem




I haven't tried php namespaces yet, but have implemented them for my own 
projects, to
1) avoid the ever enduring hassle of setting directory paths for every 
host where the project lives in one form or another (dev, test, 
production).
2) calling classes according to their logical structure, in stead of 
figuring out in what freaking folder I put the class.


namespaceMyProjectName('db.mysql.MySqlHandler');

Nice and easy, although at a performance cost atm. 


probably a big performance cost. that said I'd like to hear/see
some more of your implementation, could you elaborate?

I'm looking forward 
to seeing how PHP handles it.


well download an alpha of php5.3 and take a look, more testers
are needed ... this is a major addition and there are plenty of
edge cases (it seems) that have yet to be covered.


greetz,


Stijn





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Re: [PHP] namespaces ... coming to a php5.3 near you.

2008-09-12 Thread Jochem Maas

Lester Caine schreef:

Jochem Maas wrote:

Jochem Maas schreef:

has anyone here downloaded/compiled 5.3 and played with namespaces?
have you encountered any issues/problems?


so no-one? really? none of you muppets ever even smelled a namespace?

I'd like to hear from you as I've been asked to compile a reference 
documenting anything/everything
people may have come across (so far as namespaces go), if you have 
some reproduce code, all

the better.


Have to work through the 5.2 -> 5.3 issues first before DELIBERATELY 
introducing something that breaks compatibility with customer sites ;)


I am aware of your situation/opinion/etc from internals mailing list,
I'm interested to hear from people who have grabbed a copy of 5.3 and
had a go at *trying out* the new stuff.

Also I did stipulate 'play' which implies testing the new functionality,
not rolling it into production codebases.






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Re: [PHP] namespaces ... coming to a php5.3 near you.

2008-09-12 Thread metastable

Jochem Maas wrote:

Jochem Maas schreef:

has anyone here downloaded/compiled 5.3 and played with namespaces?
have you encountered any issues/problems?


so no-one? really? none of you muppets ever even smelled a namespace?

I'd like to hear from you as I've been asked to compile a reference 
documenting anything/everything
people may have come across (so far as namespaces go), if you have 
some reproduce code, all

the better.

rgds,
Jochem




I haven't tried php namespaces yet, but have implemented them for my own 
projects, to
1) avoid the ever enduring hassle of setting directory paths for every 
host where the project lives in one form or another (dev, test, production).
2) calling classes according to their logical structure, in stead of 
figuring out in what freaking folder I put the class.


namespaceMyProjectName('db.mysql.MySqlHandler');

Nice and easy, although at a performance cost atm. I'm looking forward 
to seeing how PHP handles it.


greetz,


Stijn



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Re: [PHP] namespaces ... coming to a php5.3 near you.

2008-09-12 Thread Lester Caine

Jochem Maas wrote:

Jochem Maas schreef:

has anyone here downloaded/compiled 5.3 and played with namespaces?
have you encountered any issues/problems?


so no-one? really? none of you muppets ever even smelled a namespace?

I'd like to hear from you as I've been asked to compile a reference 
documenting anything/everything
people may have come across (so far as namespaces go), if you have 
some reproduce code, all

the better.


Have to work through the 5.2 -> 5.3 issues first before DELIBERATELY 
introducing something that breaks compatibility with customer sites ;)


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Re: [PHP] namespaces ... coming to a php5.3 near you.

2008-09-12 Thread Jochem Maas

Jochem Maas schreef:

has anyone here downloaded/compiled 5.3 and played with namespaces?
have you encountered any issues/problems?


so no-one? really? none of you muppets ever even smelled a namespace?

I'd like to hear from you as I've been asked to compile a reference 
documenting anything/everything
people may have come across (so far as namespaces go), if you have some 
reproduce code, all

the better.

rgds,
Jochem




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[PHP] namespaces ... coming to a php5.3 near you.

2008-09-11 Thread Jochem Maas

has anyone here downloaded/compiled 5.3 and played with namespaces?
have you encountered any issues/problems?

I'd like to hear from you as I've been asked to compile a reference documenting 
anything/everything
people may have come across (so far as namespaces go), if you have some 
reproduce code, all
the better.

rgds,
Jochem

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