Re: [PHP] one more mysql question

2005-08-15 Thread John Nichel

Jochem Maas wrote:
snip

while were not on the subject 
John I have a question about your wife ...


She's 7 months pregnant, and down right mean at the moment.


oh shit wrong list ;-)


Doesn't seem to matter here, eh?


no no I meant to ask about sand - how do I make a CPU using the stuff?


Allright, now that was totally off-topic and uncalled for.  Pistols at 
Dawn!!!


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Re: [PHP] one more mysql question

2005-08-15 Thread John Nichel

Sebastian wrote:

they are just grumpy old men i guess..
it is not like you asked a windows question on a linux list.. i've seen 
stupid html questions here.. yet they get answered.


Not by me.  They'll get the same response from the 'grumpy old men' 
group as this topic did.


i always try to help when i can and if i cant offer help i dont say 
anything because that wasnt the way i was raised. it is rude.


How nice.

at least if it was too offtopic for the list someone could of just 
nicely said ask on the mysql list but that wasn't case.


It was 'too offtopic'...and he's been around long enough to know that he 
should ask MySQL questions on the MySQL list.



anyway, consider this a done deal as you already received help.


You've got my vote for sainthood.

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Re: [PHP] one more mysql question

2005-08-15 Thread Jochem Maas

John Nichel wrote:

Jochem Maas wrote:
snip


while were not on the subject 
John I have a question about your wife ...



She's 7 months pregnant, and down right mean at the moment.


been there (http://iamjochem.com/baby) - kind of
- congrats anyhow, and good luck!




oh shit wrong list ;-)



Doesn't seem to matter here, eh?


no no I meant to ask about sand - how do I make a CPU using the stuff?



Allright, now that was totally off-topic and uncalled for.  Pistols at 
Dawn!!!


isnt't it the [n]etiquette that if you demand a duel I get to decide on weapons?
that'll be Wooden Spoons at dawn if you please. ;-)



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Re: [PHP] one more mysql question

2005-08-15 Thread Jochem Maas

Sebastian wrote:

they are just grumpy old men i guess..


I'm niether - I believe John Nichel is a little older than I.
he for one has been on this list fielding questions longer than you
have been writing php code sebastian. complete noobs often get some slack,
even with offtopic questions + a gentle nudge - lazy people get a kick in the 
ass.
people who have been asking questions (primarily) for a while (e.g. afan)
will eventually run out of credit and find themselves on the shortend
of a bit John Nichel humor (for instance).

yes humor - at least I thought his comment was funny - which is part of
what makes this list fun to be on.

it is not like you asked a windows question on a linux list.. i've seen 
stupid html questions here.. yet they get answered.


HyperTextMarkupLanguage

PhpHypertextProcessor

you might see a reason why 'stupid HTML' question are possibly a little
more relevant, generally speaking, than pure SQL syntax questions.



i always try to help when i can and if i cant offer help i dont say 
anything because that wasnt the way i was raised. it is rude.


rude is lying about 9-11 to the whole world, or invading a country
in order to boost your country's weapons  oil industry, or gang-raping
12yo's (dutch news)

those are rude - maybe a bit of relativity is in order sebastian.



at least if it was too offtopic for the list someone could of just 
nicely said ask on the mysql list but that wasn't case.


anyway, consider this a done deal as you already received help.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hey! Stop it!
I put a question on wrong place. I was nailed for it by John. I 
accepted I was wrong. I apologized.


What do you want now? Sebastian wanted to help – in difference to you 
and John. Even it’s “wrong place”. I guess you would never stop and 
help to car in trouble on highway because you are IT or “it’s not your 
department”, ha?


not if it was Dubya's car. although I might swerve to catch him with a big 
puddle
of water ;-). actually I can't fix cars for shit but I have helped complete 
strangers
push their cars to the edge of the road before ... aren't I great ;-)



C’mon… It’s really not place to be sarcastic…


I was having a joke with John - if you took yourself a little less seriously
afan you might have been able to laugh too - besides I grew up in england...
where sarcasm is is part of national curriculum ;-) an art form no less. which
might account for something.





-afan



Jochem Maas wrote:


John Nichel wrote:


Sebastian wrote:





while were not on the subject 
John I have a question about your wife ...

oh shit wrong list ;-)

no no I meant to ask about sand - how do I make a CPU using the stuff?



take what other say with a grain of salt.. im sure you're using php 
to pull info from mysql anyway..






And he might be using Apache on Linux like the majority of PHP 
users. More than likely outputting some HTML and maybe some 
JavaScript. Probably using a PC too. So what?


the fact is without mysql php would be nowhere where it is today.. 
its like peanut butter w/o the jelly..






The fact is, without IBM, PHP would be nowhere it is today. Say, 
here's an idea, let's just make this the IBM and anything which 
relates to it list.



see my reply in the other email.. im sure it will work for you.






I'll be sure to tell everyone on the MySQL list that they can shut 
it down, since you have it covered over here.











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RE: [PHP] one more mysql question

2005-08-15 Thread Shaw, Chris - Accenture

I agree with Sebastian, there is no excuse for being arrogant and rude.
I understand the frustration, but is there any need for some of the replies
people get?

If I can, I will try to help anyone, even if the thread is OT.

C.

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Sebastian wrote:
 they are just grumpy old men i guess..
 it is not like you asked a windows question on a linux list.. i've seen

 stupid html questions here.. yet they get answered.

Not by me.  They'll get the same response from the 'grumpy old men'

group as this topic did.

 i always try to help when i can and if i cant offer help i dont say

 anything because that wasnt the way i was raised. it is rude.

How nice.

 at least if it was too offtopic for the list someone could of just

 nicely said ask on the mysql list but that wasn't case.

It was 'too offtopic'...and he's been around long enough to know that he

should ask MySQL questions on the MySQL list.

 anyway, consider this a done deal as you already received help.

You've got my vote for sainthood.

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Re: [PHP] one more mysql question

2005-08-15 Thread John Nichel

Shaw, Chris - Accenture wrote:

I agree with Sebastian, there is no excuse for being arrogant and rude.
I understand the frustration, but is there any need for some of the replies
people get?


Not that you're judging, eh?


If I can, I will try to help anyone, even if the thread is OT.


Great, I'm happy for you.  However, do those of us who would like this 
list to remain a PHP list a favor.  Help those with OT questions off list.


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RE: [PHP] one more mysql question

2005-08-15 Thread Jim Moseby
 -Original Message-
 From: Shaw, Chris - Accenture [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 11:49 AM
 To: PHP Mailing Lists
 Subject: RE: [PHP] one more mysql question
 
 
 
 I agree with Sebastian, there is no excuse for being arrogant 
 and rude.
 I understand the frustration, but is there any need for some 
 of the replies
 people get?
 
 If I can, I will try to help anyone, even if the thread is OT.
 

There is never any excuse for being rude.  That said, there is considerable
value in keeping this (or any) mailing list ON TOPIC.  There is also
considerable value for the end user to ask questions in relevant forums.
The original poster would likely have gotten enthusiastic and helpful
response from the MySQL list, whereas he got a generally cold response here.
Not because the list members here are rude, but because HE was rude to have
ignored generally known netiquette and posted the question anyway.

JM

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Re: [PHP] one more mysql question

2005-08-15 Thread Torgny Bjers
Shaw, Chris - Accenture wrote:

I agree with Sebastian, there is no excuse for being arrogant and rude.
I understand the frustration, but is there any need for some of the replies
people get?

If I can, I will try to help anyone, even if the thread is OT.

C.


On that note I think we can agree to disagree on various topics and
leave the beating of dead horses to another list, perhaps alt.flame or
something? :P

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Re: [PHP] one more mysql question

2005-08-15 Thread Esteamedpw
 
In a message dated 8/13/2005 6:33:16 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

while were not on the subject 
John I have a  question about your wife ...

oh shit wrong list  ;-)

no no I meant to ask about sand - how do I make a CPU using  the stuff?


lol... I thought that was pretty funny too? I would have laughed if it were  
directed at me... ahhh well... 
 
- Clint


Re: [PHP] one more mysql question

2005-08-13 Thread Jochem Maas

John Nichel wrote:

Sebastian wrote:


while were not on the subject 
John I have a question about your wife ...

oh shit wrong list ;-)

no no I meant to ask about sand - how do I make a CPU using the stuff?



take what other say with a grain of salt.. im sure you're using php to 
pull info from mysql anyway..



And he might be using Apache on Linux like the majority of PHP users. 
More than likely outputting some HTML and maybe some JavaScript. 
Probably using a PC too.  So what?


the fact is without mysql php would be nowhere where it is today.. its 
like peanut butter w/o the jelly..



The fact is, without IBM, PHP would be nowhere it is today.  Say, here's 
an idea, let's just make this the IBM and anything which relates to it 
list.



see my reply in the other email.. im sure it will work for you.



I'll be sure to tell everyone on the MySQL list that they can shut it 
down, since you have it covered over here.




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Re: [PHP] one more mysql question

2005-08-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hey! Stop it!
I put a question on wrong place. I was nailed for it by John. I 
accepted I was wrong. I apologized.


What do you want now? Sebastian wanted to help – in difference to you 
and John. Even it’s “wrong place”. I guess you would never stop and help 
to car in trouble on highway because you are IT or “it’s not your 
department”, ha?


C’mon… It’s really not place to be sarcastic…

-afan



Jochem Maas wrote:


John Nichel wrote:


Sebastian wrote:



while were not on the subject 
John I have a question about your wife ...

oh shit wrong list ;-)

no no I meant to ask about sand - how do I make a CPU using the stuff?



take what other say with a grain of salt.. im sure you're using php 
to pull info from mysql anyway..




And he might be using Apache on Linux like the majority of PHP users. 
More than likely outputting some HTML and maybe some JavaScript. 
Probably using a PC too. So what?


the fact is without mysql php would be nowhere where it is today.. 
its like peanut butter w/o the jelly..




The fact is, without IBM, PHP would be nowhere it is today. Say, 
here's an idea, let's just make this the IBM and anything which 
relates to it list.



see my reply in the other email.. im sure it will work for you.




I'll be sure to tell everyone on the MySQL list that they can shut it 
down, since you have it covered over here.






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Re: [PHP] one more mysql question

2005-08-13 Thread Sebastian

they are just grumpy old men i guess..
it is not like you asked a windows question on a linux list.. i've seen 
stupid html questions here.. yet they get answered.


i always try to help when i can and if i cant offer help i dont say 
anything because that wasnt the way i was raised. it is rude.


at least if it was too offtopic for the list someone could of just 
nicely said ask on the mysql list but that wasn't case.


anyway, consider this a done deal as you already received help.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hey! Stop it!
I put a question on wrong place. I was nailed for it by John. I 
accepted I was wrong. I apologized.


What do you want now? Sebastian wanted to help – in difference to you 
and John. Even it’s “wrong place”. I guess you would never stop and 
help to car in trouble on highway because you are IT or “it’s not your 
department”, ha?


C’mon… It’s really not place to be sarcastic…

-afan



Jochem Maas wrote:


John Nichel wrote:


Sebastian wrote:




while were not on the subject 
John I have a question about your wife ...

oh shit wrong list ;-)

no no I meant to ask about sand - how do I make a CPU using the stuff?



take what other say with a grain of salt.. im sure you're using php 
to pull info from mysql anyway..





And he might be using Apache on Linux like the majority of PHP 
users. More than likely outputting some HTML and maybe some 
JavaScript. Probably using a PC too. So what?


the fact is without mysql php would be nowhere where it is today.. 
its like peanut butter w/o the jelly..





The fact is, without IBM, PHP would be nowhere it is today. Say, 
here's an idea, let's just make this the IBM and anything which 
relates to it list.



see my reply in the other email.. im sure it will work for you.





I'll be sure to tell everyone on the MySQL list that they can shut 
it down, since you have it covered over here.









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[PHP] one more mysql question

2005-08-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I apology for mysql question posted here, but, as I said once, I like 
you guys more! :)


have two tables: orders and special_orders. foreign key is trans_no.
I can't figure it out how to create a query that pulls orders from the 
orders tables that are NOT in special_orders table?


Thanks for any help.

-afan

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Re: [PHP] one more mysql question

2005-08-12 Thread Philip Hallstrom
I apology for mysql question posted here, but, as I said once, I like you 
guys more! :)


have two tables: orders and special_orders. foreign key is trans_no.
I can't figure it out how to create a query that pulls orders from the 
orders tables that are NOT in special_orders table?


I can never remember the syntax, but you want to LEFT JOIN the tables and 
then only return rows where the resulting special_orders column is NULL.


something like this (most likely wrong syntax):

SELECT o.trans_no, s.trans_no FROM orders o LEFT JOIN special_orders s ON 
o.trans_no = s.trans_no WHERE s.trans_no IS NULL


But that should get you started...

-philip

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Re: [PHP] one more mysql question

2005-08-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I tried this one:
SELECT trans_no
FROM orders
WHERE trans_no IN (
SELECT trans_no
FROM special_orders )

but gives me an error:
You have an error in your SQL syntax. Check the manual that corresponds 
to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'SELECT 
trans_no FROM special_orders )' at line 5


???


Philip Hallstrom wrote:

I apology for mysql question posted here, but, as I said once, I like 
you guys more! :)


have two tables: orders and special_orders. foreign key is trans_no.
I can't figure it out how to create a query that pulls orders from 
the orders tables that are NOT in special_orders table?



I can never remember the syntax, but you want to LEFT JOIN the tables 
and then only return rows where the resulting special_orders column is 
NULL.


something like this (most likely wrong syntax):

SELECT o.trans_no, s.trans_no FROM orders o LEFT JOIN special_orders s 
ON o.trans_no = s.trans_no WHERE s.trans_no IS NULL


But that should get you started...

-philip





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Re: [PHP] one more mysql question

2005-08-12 Thread John Nichel

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I apology for mysql question posted here, but, as I said once, I like 
you guys more! :)


I like my wife more than I like the people on these lists, but I don't 
go asking her my MySQL questions.  I go to the MySQL list for that. 
What you like doesn't make your post any less off topic, or any less 
against netiquitte.  To me, it's even a bigger offense than the newbie 
wo doesn't know any better...you know you're question is off topic, and 
yet you ask anyway...numerous times.


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Re: [PHP] one more mysql question

2005-08-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

don't get this one:
from mysql.com:

SELECT s1 FROM t1 WHERE s1 NOT IN (SELECT s1 FROM t2);

my query:

select trans_no from orders where trans_no not in (select trans_no from 
special_orders);


and I'm getting an error:

You have an error in your SQL syntax. Check the manual that corresponds 
to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'select 
trans_to from printed_orders)' at line 1


Syntax error?

???

-afan


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I tried this one:
SELECT trans_no
FROM orders
WHERE trans_no IN (
SELECT trans_no
FROM special_orders )

but gives me an error:
You have an error in your SQL syntax. Check the manual that 
corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use 
near 'SELECT trans_no FROM special_orders )' at line 5


???


Philip Hallstrom wrote:

I apology for mysql question posted here, but, as I said once, I 
like you guys more! :)


have two tables: orders and special_orders. foreign key is trans_no.
I can't figure it out how to create a query that pulls orders from 
the orders tables that are NOT in special_orders table?




I can never remember the syntax, but you want to LEFT JOIN the tables 
and then only return rows where the resulting special_orders column 
is NULL.


something like this (most likely wrong syntax):

SELECT o.trans_no, s.trans_no FROM orders o LEFT JOIN special_orders 
s ON o.trans_no = s.trans_no WHERE s.trans_no IS NULL


But that should get you started...

-philip







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Re: [PHP] one more mysql question

2005-08-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

ok. accept critique. :(

@moderator: please take my mysql questions off the php list.

I apology to everybody for any inconviniance.

-afan


John Nichel wrote:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I apology for mysql question posted here, but, as I said once, I like 
you guys more! :)



I like my wife more than I like the people on these lists, but I don't 
go asking her my MySQL questions.  I go to the MySQL list for that. 
What you like doesn't make your post any less off topic, or any less 
against netiquitte.  To me, it's even a bigger offense than the newbie 
wo doesn't know any better...you know you're question is off topic, 
and yet you ask anyway...numerous times.




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Re: [PHP] one more mysql question

2005-08-12 Thread Sebastian

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I tried this one:
SELECT trans_no
FROM orders
WHERE trans_no IN (
SELECT trans_no
FROM special_orders )

but gives me an error:
You have an error in your SQL syntax. Check the manual that 
corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use 
near 'SELECT trans_no FROM special_orders )' at line 5


???


Philip Hallstrom wrote:

I apology for mysql question posted here, but, as I said once, I 
like you guys more! :)


have two tables: orders and special_orders. foreign key is trans_no.
I can't figure it out how to create a query that pulls orders from 
the orders tables that are NOT in special_orders table?




I can never remember the syntax, but you want to LEFT JOIN the tables 
and then only return rows where the resulting special_orders column 
is NULL.


something like this (most likely wrong syntax):

SELECT o.trans_no, s.trans_no FROM orders o LEFT JOIN special_orders 
s ON o.trans_no = s.trans_no WHERE s.trans_no IS NULL


But that should get you started...

-philip





try this (untested):

SELECT * FROM trans_no
LEFT JOIN special_orders ON (trans_no.id = special_orders.id)
WHERE special_orders.id IS NULL;

just change id to the primary key...


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Re: [PHP] one more mysql question

2005-08-12 Thread Sebastian
take what other say with a grain of salt.. im sure you're using php to 
pull info from mysql anyway..


the fact is without mysql php would be nowhere where it is today.. its 
like peanut butter w/o the jelly..


see my reply in the other email.. im sure it will work for you.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


ok. accept critique. :(

@moderator: please take my mysql questions off the php list.

I apology to everybody for any inconviniance.

-afan


John Nichel wrote:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I apology for mysql question posted here, but, as I said once, I 
like you guys more! :)




I like my wife more than I like the people on these lists, but I 
don't go asking her my MySQL questions.  I go to the MySQL list for 
that. What you like doesn't make your post any less off topic, or any 
less against netiquitte.  To me, it's even a bigger offense than the 
newbie wo doesn't know any better...you know you're question is off 
topic, and yet you ask anyway...numerous times.







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Re: [PHP] one more mysql question

2005-08-12 Thread John Nichel

Sebastian wrote:
take what other say with a grain of salt.. im sure you're using php to 
pull info from mysql anyway..


And he might be using Apache on Linux like the majority of PHP users. 
More than likely outputting some HTML and maybe some JavaScript. 
Probably using a PC too.  So what?


the fact is without mysql php would be nowhere where it is today.. its 
like peanut butter w/o the jelly..


The fact is, without IBM, PHP would be nowhere it is today.  Say, here's 
an idea, let's just make this the IBM and anything which relates to it 
list.



see my reply in the other email.. im sure it will work for you.


I'll be sure to tell everyone on the MySQL list that they can shut it 
down, since you have it covered over here.


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