[PHP] page design and possible conflict??

2004-04-08 Thread Andy B
hi..

this might be sort of ot and out of the range of the list but i had a site
design question: is it an absolute no no to put inset borders 3px wide
around EVERY table on the section of the site?? im trying to make an
attempt at making the site have some sort of layout standards and that
happen to be one of the new changes (my part) the site owner liked.. i didnt
think there was any huge rule for that as long as everybody could still use
the page...
possible conflict: the main person doing the site doesnt like it when there
are borders around any table at all and i was already told by him not to do
that or my stuff wont get added?? even though i was paid before i finished
the work *stress* dont know what to do...

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Re: [PHP] page design and possible conflict??

2004-04-08 Thread Andy B
dont know what his deal is but ok will close this idea now i guess..

- Original Message - 
From: Miles Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Andy B [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 7:41 AM
Subject: Re: [PHP] page design and possible conflict??


 You're right, ot  out of range.
 Seems to be an issue of taste and control.
 Could this be because the person in charge is confusing CSS borders with
 padding?
 MT
 At 07:19 AM 4/8/2004 -0400, you wrote:
 hi..
 
 this might be sort of ot and out of the range of the list but i had a
site
 design question: is it an absolute no no to put inset borders 3px wide
 around EVERY table on the section of the site?? im trying to make an
 attempt at making the site have some sort of layout standards and that
 happen to be one of the new changes (my part) the site owner liked.. i
didnt
 think there was any huge rule for that as long as everybody could still
use
 the page...
 possible conflict: the main person doing the site doesnt like it when
there
 are borders around any table at all and i was already told by him not to
do
 that or my stuff wont get added?? even though i was paid before i
finished
 the work *stress* dont know what to do...
 
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Re: [PHP] page design and possible conflict??

2004-04-08 Thread Red Wingate
ok

Am Donnerstag, 8. April 2004 14:45 schrieb Andy B:
 dont know what his deal is but ok will close this idea now i guess..

 - Original Message -
 From: Miles Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Andy B [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 7:41 AM
 Subject: Re: [PHP] page design and possible conflict??

  You're right, ot  out of range.
  Seems to be an issue of taste and control.
  Could this be because the person in charge is confusing CSS borders with
  padding?
  MT
 
  At 07:19 AM 4/8/2004 -0400, you wrote:
  hi..
  
  this might be sort of ot and out of the range of the list but i had a

 site

  design question: is it an absolute no no to put inset borders 3px wide
  around EVERY table on the section of the site?? im trying to make an
  attempt at making the site have some sort of layout standards and that
  happen to be one of the new changes (my part) the site owner liked.. i

 didnt

  think there was any huge rule for that as long as everybody could still

 use

  the page...
  possible conflict: the main person doing the site doesnt like it when

 there

  are borders around any table at all and i was already told by him not to

 do

  that or my stuff wont get added?? even though i was paid before i

 finished

  the work *stress* dont know what to do...
  
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RE: [PHP] page design and possible conflict??

2004-04-08 Thread Jason Sheets
Rather than doing something soley to comply with a standard you must sell
your client on the idea or not do it, they are the ones that ultimately must
live with the decision and be happy with it.  As a programmer it is your job
to make sure they have all the information and the pro's and cons of each
solution, after that point let your client hash it out, providing additional
information as needed. 

If you really like the way it looks provide a mockup of the front page with
the changes you are suggesting and one without the changes and explain the
benefits of your changes. 

At the end of the day after all information has been considered and a
decision has been made you are there to do what the client wants you to do,
not what you think or believe is best.

Who do you report to, the main site guy or the site owner?  If you report to
the site owner your responsibility is to him, likewise if you report to the
person doing the site it is to him.  A lot of times the maintenance person
feels like they should have got the programming job and are very resesntful
and hard to work with, if possible you should try to build a good working
relationship with him and stroke his ego a bit as the owner probably
selected him for some reason and he might have a say about future jobs and
at the least know other people in the business and positive advertising is
always good.

Jason

-Original Message-
From: Andy B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 5:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PHP] page design and possible conflict??

hi..

this might be sort of ot and out of the range of the list but i had a site
design question: is it an absolute no no to put inset borders 3px wide
around EVERY table on the section of the site?? im trying to make an
attempt at making the site have some sort of layout standards and that
happen to be one of the new changes (my part) the site owner liked.. i didnt
think there was any huge rule for that as long as everybody could still use
the page...
possible conflict: the main person doing the site doesnt like it when there
are borders around any table at all and i was already told by him not to do
that or my stuff wont get added?? even though i was paid before i finished
the work *stress* dont know what to do...

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