[PHP] page suck attack

2008-05-21 Thread robert

Hi
Every so often my site is attacked in which all URLS on my site are  
retrieved in the span of minutes. What is this called?? I mean what do  
I google for? I don't know where to begin.


I'm not sure if I am going to implement such at thing but I would like  
to be able to research it to know my options.


thank you
robert

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Re: [PHP] page suck attack

2008-05-21 Thread Gavin M. Roy
Search engines indexing your site?
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 11:54 AM, robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi
 Every so often my site is attacked in which all URLS on my site are
 retrieved in the span of minutes. What is this called?? I mean what do I
 google for? I don't know where to begin.

 I'm not sure if I am going to implement such at thing but I would like to
 be able to research it to know my options.

 thank you
 robert

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Re: [PHP] page suck attack

2008-05-21 Thread Dan Joseph
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 11:54 AM, robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi
 Every so often my site is attacked in which all URLS on my site are
 retrieved in the span of minutes. What is this called?? I mean what do I
 google for? I don't know where to begin.

 I'm not sure if I am going to implement such at thing but I would like to
 be able to research it to know my options.

 thank you
 robert

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Are you talking about a DOS attack? (Denial of Service) -- this is usually
where your site is flooded with hits and you can't get to it because its
overloaded.

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Re: [PHP] page suck attack

2008-05-21 Thread Jason Pruim
One thing you might want to check for before blocking it is looking in  
the logs and checking to see if it is one of the search engines that  
is grabbing your URL's... Which I would think you actually want :)



On May 21, 2008, at 11:54 AM, robert wrote:


Hi
Every so often my site is attacked in which all URLS on my site  
are retrieved in the span of minutes. What is this called?? I mean  
what do I google for? I don't know where to begin.


I'm not sure if I am going to implement such at thing but I would  
like to be able to research it to know my options.


thank you
robert

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RE: [PHP] page suck attack

2008-05-21 Thread Warren Vail
Hmmm, sounds like a search engine scan, Google or Yahoo Slurpy?  Do a
reverse lookup on the requesting IP.  I would think the goal would be to get
this increased?  You can stop it (or control it a bit) by placing a
robots.txt file in the root directory, then telling the robot which paths
not to follow (you can google for how to do this).

Warren 

 -Original Message-
 From: robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:54 AM
 To: PHP
 Subject: [PHP] page suck attack
 
 Hi
 Every so often my site is attacked in which all URLS on my 
 site are retrieved in the span of minutes. What is this 
 called?? I mean what do I google for? I don't know where to begin.
 
 I'm not sure if I am going to implement such at thing but I 
 would like to be able to research it to know my options.
 
 thank you
 robert
 
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Re: [PHP] page suck attack

2008-05-21 Thread robert
Not that i can tell. Yahoo and google have a signature: googlebot and  
slurp. both of them also check my site over a span of days. that's all  
good. The others come from regular isps as far as their IP tells me  
and the hits are within milliseconds.



On May 21, 2008, at 8:57 AM, Gavin M. Roy wrote:


Search engines indexing your site?
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 11:54 AM, robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi
Every so often my site is attacked in which all URLS on my site are
retrieved in the span of minutes. What is this called?? I mean what  
do I

google for? I don't know where to begin.

I'm not sure if I am going to implement such at thing but I would  
like to

be able to research it to know my options.

thank you
robert

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RES: [PHP] page suck attack

2008-05-21 Thread Thiago Pojda
Perhaps someone is accessing your website with some prefetching tool?


I'm not sure, but I think Fasterfox does that.


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-Mensagem original-
De: robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Enviada em: quarta-feira, 21 de maio de 2008 13:05
Para: PHP
Assunto: Re: [PHP] page suck attack

Not that i can tell. Yahoo and google have a signature: googlebot and  
slurp. both of them also check my site over a span of days. that's all  
good. The others come from regular isps as far as their IP tells me  
and the hits are within milliseconds.


On May 21, 2008, at 8:57 AM, Gavin M. Roy wrote:

 Search engines indexing your site?
 On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 11:54 AM, robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi
 Every so often my site is attacked in which all URLS on my site are
 retrieved in the span of minutes. What is this called?? I mean what  
 do I
 google for? I don't know where to begin.

 I'm not sure if I am going to implement such at thing but I would  
 like to
 be able to research it to know my options.

 thank you
 robert

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Re: [PHP] page suck attack

2008-05-21 Thread TG

Can you check your logs and look at the user agent for what's making the 
connections?  Could it just be a search engine crawler indexing your pages? 
 You can control access, usually, via a robots.txt exclusion file.

If it's someone else mirroring your site for some reason, some programs that 
do this will obey robots.txt settings.

If it's happening a lot and degrading the performance of your web server, 
then it may be a DOS (denial of service) attack.

By the basic description you gave, it doesn't sound like an attack.

-TG

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From: robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PHP php-general@lists.php.net
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 08:54:20 -0700
Subject: [PHP] page suck attack

 Hi
 Every so often my site is attacked in which all URLS on my site are  
 retrieved in the span of minutes. What is this called?? I mean what do  
 I google for? I don't know where to begin.
 
 I'm not sure if I am going to implement such at thing but I would like  
 to be able to research it to know my options.
 
 thank you
 robert


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Re: RES: [PHP] page suck attack

2008-05-21 Thread robert
Cool! yes Fasterfox could be it. If anyone cares, it also gave me some  
clues to what I was looking for: offline browsing. Certainly better  
keywords than page suck :)


thank you everyone!





On May 21, 2008, at 10:02 AM, Thiago Pojda wrote:


Perhaps someone is accessing your website with some prefetching tool?


I'm not sure, but I think Fasterfox does that.


Atenciosamente,
www.softpartech.com.br
Thiago Henrique Pojda
Desenvolvimento Web
+55 41 3033-7676
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ExcelĂȘncia em Softwares Financeiros
-Mensagem original-
De: robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviada em: quarta-feira, 21 de maio de 2008 13:05
Para: PHP
Assunto: Re: [PHP] page suck attack

Not that i can tell. Yahoo and google have a signature: googlebot and
slurp. both of them also check my site over a span of days. that's all
good. The others come from regular isps as far as their IP tells me
and the hits are within milliseconds.


On May 21, 2008, at 8:57 AM, Gavin M. Roy wrote:


Search engines indexing your site?
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 11:54 AM, robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



Hi
Every so often my site is attacked in which all URLS on my site  
are

retrieved in the span of minutes. What is this called?? I mean what
do I
google for? I don't know where to begin.

I'm not sure if I am going to implement such at thing but I would
like to
be able to research it to know my options.

thank you
robert

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Re: [PHP] page suck attack

2008-05-21 Thread Aschwin Wesselius

robert wrote:
Not that i can tell. Yahoo and google have a signature: googlebot and 
slurp. both of them also check my site over a span of days. that's all 
good. The others come from regular isps as far as their IP tells me 
and the hits are within milliseconds.

Hi,

Are the URL's legit? Or are there URL's being called that cause 404 
errors? Since there are bots out there scanning for vulnerable paths, 
like phpMyAdmin, phpBB, cgi-bin exploits etc.




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Re: RES: [PHP] page suck attack

2008-05-21 Thread Usamah M. Ali
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 8:51 PM, robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Cool! yes Fasterfox could be it. If anyone cares, it also gave me some
 clues to what I was looking for: offline browsing. Certainly better
 keywords than page suck :)

 thank you everyone!


Well, site rippers is a more suitable name today, as most people are on
fast DSL/cable connections so no need for offline browsing. Those days are
gone.. sigh!

Is your site content-heavy? It could be someone trying to download your
site's content to use for whatever reason it might be, or it might be just a
script kiddie trying enjoying his time. Anyway you should it take it
seriously and investigate the information available at your hand about the
source and cause of these actions.

Here's a nice tutorial on how to deal with these scripts by blocking them
through the use of robots.txt and .htaccess. It's a part of a series so
you'd better start from the first part.

Regards,
Usamah


Re: RES: [PHP] page suck attack

2008-05-21 Thread Usamah M. Ali
Sorry, the link:
http://www.javascriptkit.com/howto/htaccess13.shtml

Usamah

On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 1:15 AM, Usamah M. Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 8:51 PM, robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Cool! yes Fasterfox could be it. If anyone cares, it also gave me some
 clues to what I was looking for: offline browsing. Certainly better
 keywords than page suck :)

 thank you everyone!


 Well, site rippers is a more suitable name today, as most people are on
 fast DSL/cable connections so no need for offline browsing. Those days are
 gone.. sigh!

 Is your site content-heavy? It could be someone trying to download your
 site's content to use for whatever reason it might be, or it might be just a
 script kiddie trying enjoying his time. Anyway you should it take it
 seriously and investigate the information available at your hand about the
 source and cause of these actions.

 Here's a nice tutorial on how to deal with these scripts by blocking them
 through the use of robots.txt and .htaccess. It's a part of a series so
 you'd better start from the first part.

 Regards,
 Usamah



Re: [PHP] page suck attack

2008-05-21 Thread Michael McGlothlin

robert wrote:

Hi
Every so often my site is attacked in which all URLS on my site are 
retrieved in the span of minutes. What is this called?? I mean what do 
I google for? I don't know where to begin.


I'm not sure if I am going to implement such at thing but I would like 
to be able to research it to know my options.


thank you
robert

Each of our websites get a page sucked about every 5 seconds from Google 
alone. Sometimes seems a little aggressive but I'd rather they be 
indexing our websites than not. Other spiders are usually more moderate 
in my experience. I usually make sure my robots.txt blocks downloading 
css, scripting, images, and files by spiders so at least all they're 
getting is the HTML content that is actually useful.


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