Re: [PHP] Re: anchor name on URL
The Webkist engine afaik is licensed under the GPL, because of the use of the code from the original KHTML. I'm not sure how this fits with M$ proprietary plan however... Webkit is licensed under LGPL and BSD licenses. You say that, have you heard the latest for IE9? They're already planning it, and apparently it's going to use the Webkit engine! Actually they haven't planned that at all. There was a comment by Steve Ballmer in an interview that it was an interesting project, and something they may look at, but that comment was quickly countered the next day by Microsoft PR. Also, 'look at' != 'adopt'. They have no intention of using Webkit, as they feel it important that they're able to continue to 'extend the web' with proprietary additions to Trident. ;)
Re: [PHP] Re: anchor name on URL
Now I tend only to use it now for file management, FTP and testing websites. Beware that Konqueror has changed with KDE4. Now its main purpose is to be a web browser, whereas the new program Dolphin is used for file management etc. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: anchor name on URL
Craige Leeder wrote: Micah Gersten wrote: I'd rather all the engines follow the W3C standards so that you just have to make sure your web page is compliant. Thank you, Micah Gersten onShore Networks Internal Developer http://www.onshore.com Though I always script to W3 Standards, I could care less if browsers follow those standards, so long as we wind up closer and closer to a general set of rules we can obide by. Uh, only as long as that general set of rules is well documented. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: anchor name on URL
Per Jessen wrote: Craige Leeder wrote: Micah Gersten wrote: I'd rather all the engines follow the W3C standards so that you just have to make sure your web page is compliant. Thank you, Micah Gersten onShore Networks Internal Developer http://www.onshore.com Though I always script to W3 Standards, I could care less if browsers follow those standards, so long as we wind up closer and closer to a general set of rules we can obide by. Uh, only as long as that general set of rules is well documented. /Per Jessen, Zürich i never understand this, if i was makign a browser I'd be where's the rfc's then code it to implement those rfc's - why people choose not to is beyond me? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: anchor name on URL
Per Jessen wrote: Nathan Rixham wrote: Per Jessen wrote: Nathan Rixham wrote: i never understand this, if i was makign a browser I'd be where's the rfc's then code it to implement those rfc's - why people choose not to is beyond me? World domination is part of the reasoning ... /Per Jessen, Zürich well that bubble should have popped.. from some of my sites: Browser % visits Firefox 88.43% Internet Explorer 9.99% Firefox 46.89% Internet Explorer 37.66% Opera 7.36% Safari 5.39% Chrome 2.17% Firefox 46.80% Internet Explorer 42.45% Safari 5.36% Opera 3.07% Mozilla 1.22% I have not looked at any of my own stats for quite a while, but yours are just too good to be true :-) /Per Jessen, Zürich they're all music sites for the above.. site 1 = trance news, charts etc site 2 = radio station site 3 = mp3 download site was suprised myself the stats are inline with my techy sites which consitently sit around 60% firefox, 25% ie -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: anchor name on URL
although the crapness of firefox 3 may change that a bit.. Keh? FF3 is great IMO. -- Richard Heyes HTML5 Graphing for FF, Chrome, Opera and Safari: http://www.rgraph.org (Updated November 15th) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: anchor name on URL
Richard Heyes wrote: although the crapness of firefox 3 may change that a bit.. Keh? FF3 is great IMO. I thought that at first as well, then I noticed it was a bit unstable on windows xp/media center/tablet edition, on all my machines, then talked to workmates, friends, partner etc and they where finding the same, great feature set but more prone to crashing more than ff2 (regardless of clean installs, upgrades etc) however, on vista ultimate at home it's great and v stable.. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: anchor name on URL
Richard Heyes wrote: although the crapness of firefox 3 may change that a bit.. Keh? FF3 is great IMO. FF2 and FF# are not 100% compatible which made some of our web interfaces look wrong in FF3. I haven't been able to find the problem yet: FF2: http://jessen.ch/images/sam-menu-ff2.jpeg FF3: http://jessen.ch/images/sam-menu-ff3.jpeg Notice how the fonts are really quite different, in FF3 they make the long orange menu line spill over the page margin. No FF3 around here for a while yet. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: anchor name on URL
Nathan Rixham wrote: Per Jessen wrote: Nathan Rixham wrote: i never understand this, if i was makign a browser I'd be where's the rfc's then code it to implement those rfc's - why people choose not to is beyond me? World domination is part of the reasoning ... /Per Jessen, Zürich well that bubble should have popped.. from some of my sites: Browser % visits Firefox 88.43% Internet Explorer 9.99% Firefox 46.89% Internet Explorer 37.66% Opera 7.36% Safari 5.39% Chrome 2.17% Firefox 46.80% Internet Explorer 42.45% Safari 5.36% Opera 3.07% Mozilla 1.22% I have not looked at any of my own stats for quite a while, but yours are just too good to be true :-) /Per Jessen, Zürich -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: anchor name on URL
On 19 Nov 2008, at 12:01, Nathan Rixham wrote: from some of my sites: Browser % visits Firefox 88.43% Internet Explorer 9.99% Firefox 46.89% Internet Explorer 37.66% Opera 7.36% Safari 5.39% Chrome 2.17% Firefox 46.80% Internet Explorer 42.45% Safari 5.36% Opera 3.07% Mozilla 1.22% although the crapness of firefox 3 may change that a bit.. Browser stats depend greatly on the content of the site, as indicated by the differences between your three examples. One of the sites I manage appeals to Joe Public more than any other site I'm involved in, and the stats reflect the fact that most people use what comes with their computer, probably because they don't think there's a better option. Internet Explorer 80.86% Firefox 14.56% Safari 2.51% Mozilla0.85% Opera 0.61% Chrome 0.43% Playstation 3 0.07% SeaMonkey 0.02% Playstation Portable 0.01% Netscape 0.01% Firefox is certainly gaining, as is Safari, but IE is still the dominant player by far. The greatest accuracy for something like this comes from Hitwise, Comscore and similar companies. It's unfortunate that Google stopped publishing their stats as those would probably be as accurate as they could get. -Stut -- http://stut.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: anchor name on URL
Per Jessen wrote: Nathan Rixham wrote: Though I always script to W3 Standards, I could care less if browsers follow those standards, so long as we wind up closer and closer to a general set of rules we can obide by. Uh, only as long as that general set of rules is well documented. /Per Jessen, Zürich i never understand this, if i was makign a browser I'd be where's the rfc's then code it to implement those rfc's - why people choose not to is beyond me? World domination is part of the reasoning ... /Per Jessen, Zürich well that bubble should have popped.. from some of my sites: Browser % visits Firefox 88.43% Internet Explorer 9.99% Firefox 46.89% Internet Explorer 37.66% Opera 7.36% Safari 5.39% Chrome 2.17% Firefox 46.80% Internet Explorer 42.45% Safari 5.36% Opera 3.07% Mozilla 1.22% although the crapness of firefox 3 may change that a bit.. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: anchor name on URL
Nathan Rixham wrote: Though I always script to W3 Standards, I could care less if browsers follow those standards, so long as we wind up closer and closer to a general set of rules we can obide by. Uh, only as long as that general set of rules is well documented. /Per Jessen, Zürich i never understand this, if i was makign a browser I'd be where's the rfc's then code it to implement those rfc's - why people choose not to is beyond me? World domination is part of the reasoning ... /Per Jessen, Zürich -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: anchor name on URL
Yeti wrote: Just battling that fiasco myself. Konqueror and Dolphin combination just does not work for me which is a pity - and KDE4 . I was pointed to xfce which seems to be much more practical :) Having ditched the Windows 'development machine' everything is now on a nice linux box, but I was pulling my hair out with KDE4 I think one has to look at KDE4 as the bloaded windows manager many Windows switchers are looking for. With all its handy apps one does not have to worry about how to get programs one had pre-installed under Windows. For many unexperienced users it should make life alot easier. Whereas for the other 25% KDE still is a great window manager, but one should choose the must-haves before compiling it. With all its useless tools/apps or whatever it takes alot of time to compile (compare that to the linux kernel lol) and speaking for me, I don't want 2 Gigs of never used data on my disk. Forgot to hit - reply all - again :( List emails should reply to the list :) I think you have hit the nail on the head. Except that the 25% have problems finding things that have moved ... The one thing I needed was 'marbles' which was supposed to be KDE4 only, but it works fine under xfce, so I'm slowly culling anything else I don't need -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/lsces/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Re: anchor name on URL
-Original Message- From: Ashley Sheridan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 5:09 PM To: Yeti Cc: Boyd, Todd M.; PHP General Mailing List Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: anchor name on URL On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 14:58 -0800, Yeti wrote: I look forward to the day when markup isn't so bloated due to the inability of certain web browser franchises to get it right. Although I usually look at the future through an optimistic point of view, that day may never come. You say that, have you heard the latest for IE9? They're already planning it, and apparently it's going to use the Webkit engine! I've heard folks at Microsoft say, basically, Speed/efficiency was not a consideration. Ugh. Still waiting on Mozilla Minefield. // Todd -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Re: anchor name on URL
-Original Message- From: Ashley Sheridan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 5:58 PM To: Richard Heyes Cc: Yeti; Boyd, Todd M.; PHP General Mailing List Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: anchor name on URL On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 23:51 +, Richard Heyes wrote: Yeah, but it will mean that there will still be about 3 different rendering versions of IE out there by the time it comes out; 7, 8 and 9 (I'm fairly sure 6 will have gone to that good ol' web in the sky by that time) Sure, but depending on how closely it follows WebKit, could make testing on IE9, Safari and Chrome a breeze. -- Richard Heyes HTML5 Graphing for FF, Chrome, Opera and Safari: http://www.rgraph.org (Updated November 15th) Don't forget Konqueror in that list ;) It's not exactly the same engine after Apple forked it from KHTML, but it's quite close, and both Konqueror and Safari are said to be working a little more closely than before to share the work done to the rendering engines since the fork. I'm waiting for the day when Firefox starts using Google's V8 scripting engine! Firefox will probably go with their own improvements a la Minefield (instead of V8). As for WebKit, I think you guys are forgetting--it's an APPLE product. Do you seriously think they're going to let Microsoft use it in their web browser after they've hacked it to pieces and strung it back together into some bloated, inefficient monster? Well... maybe if the price is right. /shrug // Todd -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: anchor name on URL
On Wed, 2008-11-19 at 01:57 -0800, Yeti wrote: Now I tend only to use it now for file management, FTP and testing websites. Beware that Konqueror has changed with KDE4. Now its main purpose is to be a web browser, whereas the new program Dolphin is used for file management etc. I still use KDE3, Dolphin is just a lot slower, and not quite up to the mark yet as a file manager, and KDE4 has nothing that appeals to me yet. Give it a year and it may become stable enough to use for development purposes. Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Re: anchor name on URL
On Wed, 2008-11-19 at 08:27 -0600, Boyd, Todd M. wrote: -Original Message- From: Ashley Sheridan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 5:58 PM To: Richard Heyes Cc: Yeti; Boyd, Todd M.; PHP General Mailing List Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: anchor name on URL On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 23:51 +, Richard Heyes wrote: Yeah, but it will mean that there will still be about 3 different rendering versions of IE out there by the time it comes out; 7, 8 and 9 (I'm fairly sure 6 will have gone to that good ol' web in the sky by that time) Sure, but depending on how closely it follows WebKit, could make testing on IE9, Safari and Chrome a breeze. -- Richard Heyes HTML5 Graphing for FF, Chrome, Opera and Safari: http://www.rgraph.org (Updated November 15th) Don't forget Konqueror in that list ;) It's not exactly the same engine after Apple forked it from KHTML, but it's quite close, and both Konqueror and Safari are said to be working a little more closely than before to share the work done to the rendering engines since the fork. I'm waiting for the day when Firefox starts using Google's V8 scripting engine! Firefox will probably go with their own improvements a la Minefield (instead of V8). As for WebKit, I think you guys are forgetting--it's an APPLE product. Do you seriously think they're going to let Microsoft use it in their web browser after they've hacked it to pieces and strung it back together into some bloated, inefficient monster? Well... maybe if the price is right. /shrug // Todd The Webkist engine afaik is licensed under the GPL, because of the use of the code from the original KHTML. I'm not sure how this fits with M$ proprietary plan however... Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Re: anchor name on URL
-Original Message- From: Ashley Sheridan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 1:43 PM To: Boyd, Todd M. Cc: PHP General Mailing List Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: anchor name on URL ---8--- Don't forget Konqueror in that list ;) It's not exactly the same engine after Apple forked it from KHTML, but it's quite close, and both Konqueror and Safari are said to be working a little more closely than before to share the work done to the rendering engines since the fork. I'm waiting for the day when Firefox starts using Google's V8 scripting engine! Firefox will probably go with their own improvements a la Minefield (instead of V8). As for WebKit, I think you guys are forgetting--it's an APPLE product. Do you seriously think they're going to let Microsoft use it in their web browser after they've hacked it to pieces and strung it back together into some bloated, inefficient monster? Well... maybe if the price is right. The Webkist engine afaik is licensed under the GPL, because of the use of the code from the original KHTML. I'm not sure how this fits with M$ proprietary plan however... On that note... they're bringing jQuery (OSS Javascript framework) into the ASP.NET paradigm UNALTERED! That's right--they've admitted that they can't do better than the jQuery folks, and they're going to adopt it AS-IS. That made me very excited... especially since I've recently fallen in love with jQuery, and I am forced to use ASP.NET at work (though, to the chagrin of this list, I will admit: I like the .NET framework. A lot). Anyway, just thought I'd put the idea out there that not every person at Microsoft follows the find idea, FUBAR idea, repackage idea mindset. :) Their ASP.NET/VS crew has actually been pretty forward-thinking as of late. *cough* ... but, you know... PHP rules, too, and junk. // Todd -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: anchor name on URL
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 14:21 -0600, Stan wrote: Well ... you got me thinking ... I moved the placement of the named anchor to inside the first td tag in the row and it works (instead of inside the tr tag. Sorry. Ah, it seems that the doctype might have been to blame then, as an a tag cannot exist within a tr unless it is in a td or th. If in doubt, run your page through the W3C Validator, as it's a great help in catching bugs. Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Re: anchor name on URL
-Original Message- From: Ashley Sheridan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 2:34 PM To: Stan Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: anchor name on URL On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 14:21 -0600, Stan wrote: Well ... you got me thinking ... I moved the placement of the named anchor to inside the first td tag in the row and it works (instead of inside the tr tag. Sorry. Ah, it seems that the doctype might have been to blame then, as an a tag cannot exist within a tr unless it is in a td or th. If in doubt, run your page through the W3C Validator, as it's a great help in catching bugs. I also think it's worth mentioning that the XHTML standard will refer to the id attribute, not the name attribute, when searching for a link in the format #identifier. Many people double-up (putting the same value in both attributes) for backwards-compatibility. I look forward to the day when markup isn't so bloated due to the inability of certain web browser franchises to get it right. // Todd -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: anchor name on URL
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 14:58 -0800, Yeti wrote: I look forward to the day when markup isn't so bloated due to the inability of certain web browser franchises to get it right. Although I usually look at the future through an optimistic point of view, that day may never come. You say that, have you heard the latest for IE9? They're already planning it, and apparently it's going to use the Webkit engine! Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: anchor name on URL
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Ashley Sheridan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You say that, have you heard the latest for IE9? They're already planning it, and apparently it's going to use Microsoft's own version of the Webkit engine! Fixed your post, Ash. -- /Daniel P. Brown http://www.parasane.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ask me about our current hosting/dedicated server deals! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: anchor name on URL
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 18:09 -0500, Daniel P. Brown wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Ashley Sheridan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You say that, have you heard the latest for IE9? They're already planning it, and apparently it's going to use Microsoft's own version of the Webkit engine! Fixed your post, Ash. I don't think you fixed it, so much as wrote something else and made it look like I wrote it... Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: anchor name on URL
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Ashley Sheridan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think you fixed it, so much as wrote something else and made it look like I wrote it... Yes. -- /Daniel P. Brown http://www.parasane.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ask me about our current hosting/dedicated server deals! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: anchor name on URL
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 18:21 -0500, Daniel Brown wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Ashley Sheridan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think you fixed it, so much as wrote something else and made it look like I wrote it... Yes. -- /Daniel P. Brown http://www.parasane.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ask me about our current hosting/dedicated server deals! I'd really rather you didn't, please. Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: anchor name on URL
I look forward to the day when markup isn't so bloated due to the inability of certain web browser franchises to get it right. Although I usually look at the future through an optimistic point of view, that day may never come. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: anchor name on URL
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 6:29 PM, Ashley Sheridan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd really rather you didn't, please. And I'd rather you had a sense of humor. So in hindsight, we both learned something. -- /Daniel P. Brown http://www.parasane.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ask me about our current hosting/dedicated server deals! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: anchor name on URL
You say that, have you heard the latest for IE9? They're already planning it, and apparently it's going to use the Webkit engine! That would be nice, if only for the rather good canvas support, which I kinda have a vested interest in. -- Richard Heyes HTML5 Graphing for FF, Chrome, Opera and Safari: http://www.rgraph.org (Updated November 15th) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: anchor name on URL
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 23:44 +, Richard Heyes wrote: You say that, have you heard the latest for IE9? They're already planning it, and apparently it's going to use the Webkit engine! That would be nice, if only for the rather good canvas support, which I kinda have a vested interest in. -- Richard Heyes HTML5 Graphing for FF, Chrome, Opera and Safari: http://www.rgraph.org (Updated November 15th) Yeah, but it will mean that there will still be about 3 different rendering versions of IE out there by the time it comes out; 7, 8 and 9 (I'm fairly sure 6 will have gone to that good ol' web in the sky by that time) Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: anchor name on URL
Yeah, but it will mean that there will still be about 3 different rendering versions of IE out there by the time it comes out; 7, 8 and 9 (I'm fairly sure 6 will have gone to that good ol' web in the sky by that time) Sure, but depending on how closely it follows WebKit, could make testing on IE9, Safari and Chrome a breeze. -- Richard Heyes HTML5 Graphing for FF, Chrome, Opera and Safari: http://www.rgraph.org (Updated November 15th) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: anchor name on URL
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 23:51 +, Richard Heyes wrote: Yeah, but it will mean that there will still be about 3 different rendering versions of IE out there by the time it comes out; 7, 8 and 9 (I'm fairly sure 6 will have gone to that good ol' web in the sky by that time) Sure, but depending on how closely it follows WebKit, could make testing on IE9, Safari and Chrome a breeze. -- Richard Heyes HTML5 Graphing for FF, Chrome, Opera and Safari: http://www.rgraph.org (Updated November 15th) Don't forget Konqueror in that list ;) It's not exactly the same engine after Apple forked it from KHTML, but it's quite close, and both Konqueror and Safari are said to be working a little more closely than before to share the work done to the rendering engines since the fork. I'm waiting for the day when Firefox starts using Google's V8 scripting engine! Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: anchor name on URL
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Ashley Sheridan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't forget Konqueror in that list ;) It's not exactly the same engine after Apple forked it from KHTML, but it's quite close, and both Konqueror and Safari are said to be working a little more closely than before to share the work done to the rendering engines since the fork. A few years ago, that was the only browser I'd use for web surfing. I'm honestly not sure where it's market share is now, but I'd guess only in the 1% range. It's a shame it's a viable player on the field. -- /Daniel P. Brown http://www.parasane.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ask me about our current hosting/dedicated server deals! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: anchor name on URL
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 19:01 -0500, Daniel P. Brown wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Ashley Sheridan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't forget Konqueror in that list ;) It's not exactly the same engine after Apple forked it from KHTML, but it's quite close, and both Konqueror and Safari are said to be working a little more closely than before to share the work done to the rendering engines since the fork. A few years ago, that was the only browser I'd use for web surfing. I'm honestly not sure where it's market share is now, but I'd guess only in the 1% range. It's a shame it's a viable player on the field. -- /Daniel P. Brown http://www.parasane.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ask me about our current hosting/dedicated server deals! Now I tend only to use it now for file management, FTP and testing websites. Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: anchor name on URL
Ashley Sheridan wrote: On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 23:51 +, Richard Heyes wrote: Yeah, but it will mean that there will still be about 3 different rendering versions of IE out there by the time it comes out; 7, 8 and 9 (I'm fairly sure 6 will have gone to that good ol' web in the sky by that time) Sure, but depending on how closely it follows WebKit, could make testing on IE9, Safari and Chrome a breeze. -- Richard Heyes Don't forget Konqueror in that list ;) It's not exactly the same engine after Apple forked it from KHTML, but it's quite close, and both Konqueror and Safari are said to be working a little more closely than before to share the work done to the rendering engines since the fork. I'm waiting for the day when Firefox starts using Google's V8 scripting engine! Ash I'd rather all the engines follow the W3C standards so that you just have to make sure your web page is compliant. Thank you, Micah Gersten onShore Networks Internal Developer http://www.onshore.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: anchor name on URL
Micah Gersten wrote: I'd rather all the engines follow the W3C standards so that you just have to make sure your web page is compliant. Thank you, Micah Gersten onShore Networks Internal Developer http://www.onshore.com Though I always script to W3 Standards, I could care less if browsers follow those standards, so long as we wind up closer and closer to a general set of rules we can obide by. If IE 9 does take on Webkit, that's one step closer. It means one less set of arbitrary rules to develop for, which is one step closer to a standard. Just my opinion. I guess it's the same as the fact that I don't care so much for any given standards, as much as I do for the idea of those standards. Bad standards are still 7 steps ahead of no standards at all. - Craige -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
