Re: [PHP] the best 1 book for php
On 7 April 2011 05:15, Kirk Bailey kbai...@howlermonkey.net wrote: If I only had 1 book on php, what would it be? I wouldn't. Not a book JUST on PHP. The book which I'm actually enjoying the most is Code Complete by Steve McConnell. It is subtitled A Practical Handbook of Software Construction. I am a self taught developer. As such, I missed out on a lot of the best practise methodologies that have been proven to assist in helping a developer play well with others. The book covers no particular language, but gives you an understanding on how to write software. A second edition is now available - http://www.cc2e.com / http://onlinepriceguide.co.uk/v2/book_comparison.php?code=0735619670title=Code+Completeauthor=Steven+C+McConnell (for a UK price comparison list). Richard. -- Richard Quadling Twitter : EE : Zend @RQuadling : e-e.com/M_248814.html : bit.ly/9O8vFY -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] the best 1 book for php
Hello Kirk, Php manual from php.net :-). -- With best regards from Ukraine, Andre Skype: Francophile My blog: http://oire.org/menelion (mostly in Russian) Twitter: http://twitter.com/m_elensule Facebook: http://facebook.com/menelion Original message From: Kirk Bailey kbai...@howlermonkey.net To: PHP General Date created: , 7:15:40 AM Subject: [PHP] the best 1 book for php If I only had 1 book on php, what would it be? -- end Very Truly yours, - Kirk Bailey, Largo Florida kniht +-+ | BOX | +-+ think -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] the best 1 book for php
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Kirk Bailey kbai...@howlermonkey.net wrote: If I only had 1 book on php, what would it be? -- end Very Truly yours, - Kirk Bailey, Largo Florida My most common reference is, as other people have said, www.php.net. But when I reach for a paper book for some reason, it's usually because I can't remember something really basic, and I reach for Beginning PHP4 from WROX press. It's out of date, but the concepts are still right, and the basic stuff still works the same way. I haven't bought the newer Beginning PHP5 yet, but if I were going to buy just one, it would probably be that. -Alex -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] the best 1 book for php
At 12:15 AM -0400 4/7/11, Kirk Bailey wrote: If I only had 1 book on php, what would it be? The Bible. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] the best 1 book for php
On 7 April 2011 13:51, Andy McKenzie amckenz...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Kirk Bailey kbai...@howlermonkey.net wrote: If I only had 1 book on php, what would it be? -- end Very Truly yours, - Kirk Bailey, Largo Florida My most common reference is, as other people have said, www.php.net. But when I reach for a paper book for some reason, it's usually because I can't remember something really basic, and I reach for Beginning PHP4 from WROX press. It's out of date, but the concepts are still right, and the basic stuff still works the same way. I haven't bought the newer Beginning PHP5 yet, but if I were going to buy just one, it would probably be that. -Alex -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php If you are on Windows or have a CHM viewer, then the offline manuals available from http://www.php.net/download-docs.php are as good as a book as it gets. There is a version of PhD ready to roll which produces the CHM files with the user notes embedded, so you can get the whole kablooey in 1 go. Richard. -- Richard Quadling Twitter : EE : Zend @RQuadling : e-e.com/M_248814.html : bit.ly/9O8vFY -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] the best 1 book for php
On 7 April 2011 14:41, tedd tedd.sperl...@gmail.com wrote: At 12:15 AM -0400 4/7/11, Kirk Bailey wrote: If I only had 1 book on php, what would it be? The Bible. I've reliably informed that many people believe the bible covers such things as the beginning of the universe, the dawn of man and aliens, but PHP? That's a new one. -- Richard Quadling Twitter : EE : Zend @RQuadling : e-e.com/M_248814.html : bit.ly/9O8vFY -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] the best 1 book for php
[snip] I've reliably informed that many people believe the bible covers such things as the beginning of the universe, the dawn of man and aliens, but PHP? That's a new one. [/snip] I think it is in the Psalms somewhere. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] the best 1 book for php
session_start(); // genesis // do stuff session_destroy(); // revelation -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] the best 1 book for php
On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 00:15 -0400, Kirk Bailey wrote: If I only had 1 book on php, what would it be? -- end Very Truly yours, - Kirk Bailey, Largo Florida kniht +-+ | BOX | +-+ think The best answer I can think to your question is: It depends. That said, can I suggest PHP in Action by Reiersol, Baker and Shiflett I believe it covers a good variety of topics. http://books.google.com/books?id=8TnUOQAACAAJdq=PHP+in +actionhl=ensrc=bmrrei=6cmdTY7eD8Gk8QOyufm2BAsa=Xoi=book_resultct=resultresnum=1ved=0CCgQ6AEwAA -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] the best 1 book for php
introduction 2 PHP and MySql,Larry ullman
Re: [PHP] the best 1 book for php
On Apr 7, 2011, at 7:19 AM, Marc Guay wrote: session_start(); // Genesis // do stuff session_destroy(); // Revelation Now THAT'S clever! =:) I'm half way though Beginning PHP 5.3 by Matt Doyle and I like it a lot. Very readable, and up-to-date. Marc -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] the best 1 book for php
Kirk Bailey wrote: If I only had 1 book on php, what would it be? I have to disagree with the php.net 'docs' being the best book. Though most of us will have a php.net tab open in your browser every time we write code, it's not the same learning that comes with a good book IMO. Reading a book can give a more robust understanding to a language, perhaps especially when starting out. You get to listen in on the author's perceptions of tools, theories of practice, etc.. which can help with concepts, reasoning, and understanding etc.. Perhaps you start to get a similar type of learning with a good talk list combined with php.net however... perhaps with a bit of spam. ;-) Anyway, someone mentioned Larry Ullman's books and I'd have to second that suggestion. Donovan -- D Brooke -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] the best 1 book for php
On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 02:54:45PM -0500, Donovan Brooke wrote: Kirk Bailey wrote: If I only had 1 book on php, what would it be? I have to disagree with the php.net 'docs' being the best book. Though most of us will have a php.net tab open in your browser every time we write code, it's not the same learning that comes with a good book IMO. Reading a book can give a more robust understanding to a language, perhaps especially when starting out. You get to listen in on the author's perceptions of tools, theories of practice, etc.. which can help with concepts, reasoning, and understanding etc.. Perhaps you start to get a similar type of learning with a good talk list combined with php.net however... perhaps with a bit of spam. ;-) Anyway, someone mentioned Larry Ullman's books and I'd have to second that suggestion. I agree regarding php.net. php.net is a great resource for function references. It is less of a great resource for basic language elements and such, mainly because of the way it's indexed. It's much harder to find a full explanation of something like heredocs on the site than an explanation of, say the date() function. However, if you're trying to learn the language, a book is a better companion than php.net. I'd recommend the O'Reilly book Programming PHP by Lerdorf, Tatroe MacIntyre. Before I discovered php.net, it was my bible (not the one Tedd referred to). Paul -- Paul M. Foster http://noferblatz.com http://quillandmouse.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] the best 1 book for php
http://www.php.net/ On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Kirk Bailey kbai...@howlermonkey.net wrote: If I only had 1 book on php, what would it be? -- end Very Truly yours, - Kirk Bailey, Largo Florida kniht +-+ | BOX | +-+ think -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] the best 1 book for php
+1 1. Always current 2. Usable evolving examples On 4/6/2011 9:23 PM, Michael Shadle wrote: http://www.php.net/ On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Kirk Baileykbai...@howlermonkey.net wrote: If I only had 1 book on php, what would it be? -- end Very Truly yours, - Kirk Bailey, Largo Florida kniht +-+ | BOX | +-+ think -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Jim Lucas www.cmsws.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] the best 1 book for php
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Kirk Bailey kbai...@howlermonkey.netwrote: If I only had 1 book on php, what would it be? -- end Very Truly yours, - Kirk Bailey, Largo Florida kniht +-+ | BOX | +-+ think -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php This is going to sound a little silly, but I'm going to say [drumroll...] K R (The C Programming Language) Let me explain. I've recently reread (most of it anyway) K R, and the whole time I was reading I felt like I was studying up on PHP just as much as C. There's no language that played a bigger role in the design decisions, and this is clearly evident when you listen to the core developers. In fact, even this past week Rasmus said on the PHP Dev list, Argh! Everyone should be forced to learn a bit of C. Like many PHP functions, the name and argument order is right out of libc, a sentiment he's expressed before. I must admit that I tend to think of PHP as C code that includes garbage collection of lots of very practical web goodies. And, the book itself is a gem in terms of clarity, brevity, and sage advice. So, read (or read again for the umpteenth time) K R, and then fill in the gaps with PHP.net. And, on the rare occasion you would need more speed than your PHP script is providing, you'll be able to write you're own extension to PHP using it's older brother, C. Adam -- Nephtali: A simple, flexible, fast, and security-focused PHP framework http://nephtaliproject.com
