Re: [PHP] Any netscape users out there?
Dan Ostrowski wrote: Post data makes Netscape REFUSE to show the underlying source code! It's virtually impossible to design form handling stuff when I can't see the code that's generated when i send post data. Is this a bug and how do you fix it?? i've never seen this problem in ns, at least not with the stuff i've designed in the past. do you have a page/form somewhere we could look at? -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Any netscape users out there?
It happens ANYWHERE there is post info for me. Not just on my own PHP development pages. I was just wondering if there was a setting on Netscape to fix this kind of thing. regards, dan On Tue, 03 Sep 2002 10:07:11 -0600 Ashley M. Kirchner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan Ostrowski wrote: Post data makes Netscape REFUSE to show the underlying source code! It's virtually impossible to design form handling stuff when I can't see the code that's generated when i send post data. Is this a bug and how do you fix it?? i've never seen this problem in ns, at least not with the stuff i've designed in the past. do you have a page/form somewhere we could look at? -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Any netscape users out there?
Netscape 4.xx series is notorious for caching issues. When you post data and then try to view the source code netscape thinks it has expired and thus gone. Another issue is when you resize the view source window, netscape reloads the page *ack*. On my site at http://www.wocmud.org I think my no cache headers even cause netscape to choke since I can't get page source on any of my pages in the 4.xx series. My solution is to use Mozilla/Netscape 7 to view the source when I need to and just use the 4.xx brokwser when I want to make sure it looks ok visually. HTH, Rob. --- Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: Dan Ostrowski wrote: Post data makes Netscape REFUSE to show the underlying source code! It's virtually impossible to design form handling stuff when I can't see the code that's generated when i send post data. Is this a bug and how do you fix it?? i've never seen this problem in ns, at least not with the stuff i've designed in the past. do you have a page/form somewhere we could look at? -- .-. | Robert Cummings | :-`. | Webdeployer - Chief PHP and Java Programmer | :--: | Mail : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Phone : (613) 731-4046 x.109 | :--: | Website : http://www.webmotion.com | | Fax : (613) 260-9545 | `--' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Any netscape users out there?
Robert Cummings wrote: My solution is to use Mozilla/Netscape 7 to view the source when I need to and just use the 4.xx brokwser when I want to make sure it looks ok visually. d'oph. this might be way i never bothered - i use mozilla as well to check code. :) -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Any netscape users out there?
Which is strange because I use Netscape 6. Hmm... Perhaps I should upgrade to 7. Also, would the fact that I have Netscape 4.x installed on the same machine as my Netscape 6 cause anything funny to bleed over, you think? Perhaps its a shared library thing.. hmmm... Well thanks for the advice... regards, dan -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Any netscape users out there?
Dan Ostrowski wrote: I develop mostly in a Linux environment anymore, but I have a problem with Netscape and PHP. Well, not so much with PHP but developing it with Netscape. Post data makes Netscape REFUSE to show the underlying source code! It's virtually impossible to design form handling stuff when I can't see the code that's generated when i send post data. Is this a bug and how do you fix it?? regards, dan Netscape 4xx is in many respects a difficult browser because it is not standards compliant and is bug-ridden. Many developers wish people would stop using it. Use Mozilla instead during development and check and just use Netscape 4xx as one of the browsers you test your site with -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Any netscape users out there?
Shouldn't be any bleeding from shared libraries. but then I'm on Linux and your probably under windows, and so I don't know for sure anymore :) Cheers, Rob. Dan Ostrowski wrote: Which is strange because I use Netscape 6. Hmm... Perhaps I should upgrade to 7. Also, would the fact that I have Netscape 4.x installed on the same machine as my Netscape 6 cause anything funny to bleed over, you think? Perhaps its a shared library thing.. hmmm... Well thanks for the advice... regards, dan -- .-. | Robert Cummings | :-`. | Webdeployer - Chief PHP and Java Programmer | :--: | Mail : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Phone : (613) 731-4046 x.109 | :--: | Website : http://www.webmotion.com | | Fax : (613) 260-9545 | `--' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Any netscape users out there?
hmmm... must be a bug. Same thing happens on Mozilla as Netscape. Anything with post data greys out the view source button, and I can't get it open. Weird. Time to hit some Linux IRC rooms. dan On Tue, 03 Sep 2002 12:56:02 -0400 Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan Ostrowski wrote: Windows? No, Xwindows... :) I hate M$ stuff. I am on linux. I hear ya brother :) Hmmm.. maybe I will just use Mozilla for the time being then. regards, dan On Tue, 03 Sep 2002 12:50:42 -0400 Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shouldn't be any bleeding from shared libraries. but then I'm on Linux and your probably under windows, and so I don't know for sure anymore :) Cheers, Rob. Dan Ostrowski wrote: Which is strange because I use Netscape 6. Hmm... Perhaps I should upgrade to 7. Also, would the fact that I have Netscape 4.x installed on the same machine as my Netscape 6 cause anything funny to bleed over, you think? Perhaps its a shared library thing.. hmmm... Well thanks for the advice... regards, dan -- .-. | Robert Cummings | :-`. | Webdeployer - Chief PHP and Java Programmer | :--: | Mail : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Phone : (613) 731-4046 x.109 | :--: | Website : http://www.webmotion.com | | Fax : (613) 260-9545 | `--' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Any netscape users out there?
Simply hold down the control key and then push the r key while looking at the source code window. That will cause the page source to repost, and you will see the resulting source code. HTH, Peter Janett New Media One Web Services New Upgrades Are Now Live!!! Windows 2000 accounts - Cold Fusion 5.0 and Imail 7.1 Sun Solaris (UNIX) accounts - PHP 4.1.2, mod_perl/1.25, Stronghold/3.0 (Apache/1.3.22), MySQL 3.23.43 PostgreSQL coming soon! http://www.newmediaone.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] (303)828-9882 - Original Message - From: Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Dan Ostrowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [PHP GENERAL] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [PHP] Any netscape users out there? Netscape 4.xx series is notorious for caching issues. When you post data and then try to view the source code netscape thinks it has expired and thus gone. Another issue is when you resize the view source window, netscape reloads the page *ack*. On my site at http://www.wocmud.org I think my no cache headers even cause netscape to choke since I can't get page source on any of my pages in the 4.xx series. My solution is to use Mozilla/Netscape 7 to view the source when I need to and just use the 4.xx brokwser when I want to make sure it looks ok visually. HTH, Rob. -- - Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: Dan Ostrowski wrote: Post data makes Netscape REFUSE to show the underlying source code! It's virtually impossible to design form handling stuff when I can't see the code that's generated when i send post data. Is this a bug and how do you fix it?? i've never seen this problem in ns, at least not with the stuff i've designed in the past. do you have a page/form somewhere we could look at? -- .-. | Robert Cummings | :-`. | Webdeployer - Chief PHP and Java Programmer | :--: | Mail : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Phone : (613) 731-4046 x.109 | :--: | Website : http://www.webmotion.com | | Fax : (613) 260-9545 | `--' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Any netscape users out there?
Dan Ostrowski wrote: hmmm... must be a bug. Same thing happens on Mozilla as Netscape. Anything with post data greys out the view source button, and I can't get it open. Weird. Time to hit some Linux IRC rooms. Hmmm, I don't have that probem under Mozilla *grin*. Of course it didn't reload either like the other post suggest with the CTRL-r Cheers, Rob. -- .-. | Robert Cummings | :-`. | Webdeployer - Chief PHP and Java Programmer | :--: | Mail : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Phone : (613) 731-4046 x.109 | :--: | Website : http://www.webmotion.com | | Fax : (613) 260-9545 | `--' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Any netscape users out there?
Ctrl r worked for me -Original Message- From: Peter Janett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 10:00 AM To: Robert Cummings; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Dan Ostrowski; [PHP GENERAL] Subject: Re: [PHP] Any netscape users out there? Simply hold down the control key and then push the r key while looking at the source code window. That will cause the page source to repost, and you will see the resulting source code. HTH, Peter Janett New Media One Web Services New Upgrades Are Now Live!!! Windows 2000 accounts - Cold Fusion 5.0 and Imail 7.1 Sun Solaris (UNIX) accounts - PHP 4.1.2, mod_perl/1.25, Stronghold/3.0 (Apache/1.3.22), MySQL 3.23.43 PostgreSQL coming soon! http://www.newmediaone.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] (303)828-9882 - Original Message - From: Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Dan Ostrowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [PHP GENERAL] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [PHP] Any netscape users out there? Netscape 4.xx series is notorious for caching issues. When you post data and then try to view the source code netscape thinks it has expired and thus gone. Another issue is when you resize the view source window, netscape reloads the page *ack*. On my site at http://www.wocmud.org I think my no cache headers even cause netscape to choke since I can't get page source on any of my pages in the 4.xx series. My solution is to use Mozilla/Netscape 7 to view the source when I need to and just use the 4.xx brokwser when I want to make sure it looks ok visually. HTH, Rob. -- - Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: Dan Ostrowski wrote: Post data makes Netscape REFUSE to show the underlying source code! It's virtually impossible to design form handling stuff when I can't see the code that's generated when i send post data. Is this a bug and how do you fix it?? i've never seen this problem in ns, at least not with the stuff i've designed in the past. do you have a page/form somewhere we could look at? -- .-. | Robert Cummings | :-`. | Webdeployer - Chief PHP and Java Programmer | :--: | Mail : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Phone : (613) 731-4046 x.109 | :--: | Website : http://www.webmotion.com | | Fax : (613) 260-9545 | `--' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
