php-general Digest 19 May 2007 23:23:54 -0000 Issue 4800

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php-general Digest 19 May 2007 23:23:54 - Issue 4800

Topics (messages 255229 through 255237):

Re: PHP5 Static functions called through __call() that don't exist... yet
255229 by: Emil Ivanov
255234 by: Greg Beaver

Re: Security Question, re directory permissions
255230 by: Tijnema
255235 by: Al

Re: php5 cert
255231 by: Greg Donald

Re: Just to prove my point (used to be - Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the 
list)
255232 by: Stut
255233 by: Stut

Re: Include files
255236 by: Haydar TUNA

Re: mime type over http post?
255237 by: Ray

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Hi,

I also think this a good proposal, but you might consider writing to the 
internals group, as this group is only for discussions and most of the 
people that read it are PHP users and have no idea how the language is made 
(including me).

Regards,
Emil Ivanov
Jared Farrish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hi all,

 Here is more code, with a test case included. What I would prefer to do is
 call TypeAssist::$string(), instead of TypeAssist::$a-string(). Or at 
 least
 __construct() the $a object.

 code
 ?php
 if (!class_exists('TypeAssert')) {
class TypeAssert {
public static $a;
public static $assert;
private static $types = array(
'array','bool','float','integer','null','numeric',
'object','resource','scalar','string'
);
function __construct() {
self::$assert = self::$a;
}
public static function __call($method,$arguments) {
$obj = self::assertStandardTypes($arguments[0]);
return $obj-$method;
}
public static function assertStandardTypes($para) {
$r = TypeAssert::getTypesObject();
foreach ($r as $type=$v) {
$func = is_.strtolower($type);
if (function_exists($func) === true) {
if ($func($para) === true) {
$r-$type = true;
} else {
$r-$type = false;
}
}
}
return $r;
}
public static function getTypesObject() {
$obj = (object) '';
for ($i = 0; $i  count(self::$types); $i++) {
$obj-{self::$types[$i]} = (bool) false;
}
return $obj;
}
}
 }
 TypeAssert::$a = new TypeAssert();
 echo(pre\n);
 switch($_GET['type']) {
case 'int':
$test = 100;
$_test = 100;
break;
case 'float':
$test = 100.001;
$_test = 100.001;
break;
case 'null':
$test = null;
$_test = 'null';
break;
case 'object':
$test = TypeAssert::$a;
$_test = '[object]';
break;
default:
$test = 'string';
$_test = 'string';
break;
 }
 foreach (TypeAssert::getTypesObject() as $type = $v) {
echo(divis_b style=\color: #00a;\$type/b(b$_test/b) === .
  (TypeAssert::$assert-$type($test)?
   'b style=color: #0a0;true/b':
   'b style=color: #a00;false/b').
   /div\n
);
 }
 echo(/pre\n);
 ?
 /code

 Original Message Text

 Hi all,

 I am building an assertType object using static functions. What I want to
 keep away from is the following:

 code
 public static function assertString($para){
 return $answer;
 };
 public static function assertBool($para){
 return $answer;
 };
 ...
 public static function assertArray($para){
 return $answer;
 };
 /code

 What I would like to do is replace this with the following:

 code
 if (!class_exists('TypeAssert')) {
 class TypeAssert {
 private static $types = array(
 'array','bool','float','integer','null','numeric',
 'object','resource','scalar','string'
 );
 public static function __call($method,$arguments) {
 $obj = self::assertStandardTypes($arguments[0]);
 return $obj-$method;
 }
 public static function assertStandardTypes($para) {
 $r = TypeAssert::getTypesObject();
 if (is_array($para))$r-array = true;
 if (is_bool($para)) $r-bool = true;
 if (is_float($para))$r-float = true;
 if (is_integer($para))  $r-integer = true;
 if (is_null($para)) $r-null = true;
 if (is_numeric($para))  $r-numeric = true;
 if (is_object($para))   $r-object = true;
 if (is_resource($para)) $r-resource = true;
 if (is_scalar($para))   $r-scalar = true;
 

Re: [PHP] php5 cert

2007-05-19 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, Greg Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anyone wanna share their insights into the php5 cert test?

As worthless as the php4 cert.

Kevin


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[PHP] Re: PHP5 Static functions called through __call() that don't exist... yet

2007-05-19 Thread Emil Ivanov
Hi,

I also think this a good proposal, but you might consider writing to the 
internals group, as this group is only for discussions and most of the 
people that read it are PHP users and have no idea how the language is made 
(including me).

Regards,
Emil Ivanov
Jared Farrish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hi all,

 Here is more code, with a test case included. What I would prefer to do is
 call TypeAssist::$string(), instead of TypeAssist::$a-string(). Or at 
 least
 __construct() the $a object.

 code
 ?php
 if (!class_exists('TypeAssert')) {
class TypeAssert {
public static $a;
public static $assert;
private static $types = array(
'array','bool','float','integer','null','numeric',
'object','resource','scalar','string'
);
function __construct() {
self::$assert = self::$a;
}
public static function __call($method,$arguments) {
$obj = self::assertStandardTypes($arguments[0]);
return $obj-$method;
}
public static function assertStandardTypes($para) {
$r = TypeAssert::getTypesObject();
foreach ($r as $type=$v) {
$func = is_.strtolower($type);
if (function_exists($func) === true) {
if ($func($para) === true) {
$r-$type = true;
} else {
$r-$type = false;
}
}
}
return $r;
}
public static function getTypesObject() {
$obj = (object) '';
for ($i = 0; $i  count(self::$types); $i++) {
$obj-{self::$types[$i]} = (bool) false;
}
return $obj;
}
}
 }
 TypeAssert::$a = new TypeAssert();
 echo(pre\n);
 switch($_GET['type']) {
case 'int':
$test = 100;
$_test = 100;
break;
case 'float':
$test = 100.001;
$_test = 100.001;
break;
case 'null':
$test = null;
$_test = 'null';
break;
case 'object':
$test = TypeAssert::$a;
$_test = '[object]';
break;
default:
$test = 'string';
$_test = 'string';
break;
 }
 foreach (TypeAssert::getTypesObject() as $type = $v) {
echo(divis_b style=\color: #00a;\$type/b(b$_test/b) === .
  (TypeAssert::$assert-$type($test)?
   'b style=color: #0a0;true/b':
   'b style=color: #a00;false/b').
   /div\n
);
 }
 echo(/pre\n);
 ?
 /code

 Original Message Text

 Hi all,

 I am building an assertType object using static functions. What I want to
 keep away from is the following:

 code
 public static function assertString($para){
 return $answer;
 };
 public static function assertBool($para){
 return $answer;
 };
 ...
 public static function assertArray($para){
 return $answer;
 };
 /code

 What I would like to do is replace this with the following:

 code
 if (!class_exists('TypeAssert')) {
 class TypeAssert {
 private static $types = array(
 'array','bool','float','integer','null','numeric',
 'object','resource','scalar','string'
 );
 public static function __call($method,$arguments) {
 $obj = self::assertStandardTypes($arguments[0]);
 return $obj-$method;
 }
 public static function assertStandardTypes($para) {
 $r = TypeAssert::getTypesObject();
 if (is_array($para))$r-array = true;
 if (is_bool($para)) $r-bool = true;
 if (is_float($para))$r-float = true;
 if (is_integer($para))  $r-integer = true;
 if (is_null($para)) $r-null = true;
 if (is_numeric($para))  $r-numeric = true;
 if (is_object($para))   $r-object = true;
 if (is_resource($para)) $r-resource = true;
 if (is_scalar($para))   $r-scalar = true;
 if (is_string($para))   $r-string = true;
 return $r;
 }
 public static function getTypesObject() {
 $obj = (object) '';
 for ($i = 0; $i  count(self::$types); $i++) {
 $obj-{self::$types[$i]} = (bool) false;
 }
 return $obj;
 }
 }
 }
 echo('pre');
 echo(TypeAssert::string('test'));
 echo('/pre');
 /code

 I don't think this is possible (see 
 http://marc.info/?l=php-generalm=114558851102060w=2
 ). But I would LIKE for it to work (currently, the above code doesn't).

 Anybody have any insight on how I might get this to work?

 Thanks!

 --
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 Intermediate Web Developer
 Denton, Tx

 Abraham Maslow: If the only tool you have is a hammer, you tend to see
 every problem as a nail. $$




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Re: [PHP] Security Question, re directory permissions

2007-05-19 Thread Tijnema

On 5/19/07, itoctopus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm genuinely interested to know with whom you're hosting...


No problem, it's www.dapx.com, it hasn't a lot security, safe_mode is
off for example.
If you know the right stuff from another user on the same server, you
can actually do some nice stuff :)

Tijnema





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Tijnema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On 5/19/07, Al [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How can anyone, other than the staff, get into my site?  Far as I know,
 other users can't get out of their own domain
 space and into mine.

 That's quite easy, especially when you have SSH access.
 Of course, it will only work with specific settings, and that might be
 blocked on some hosts, but it works for me.
 On my host, accounts for domains are just in /home
 so let's say i have 2 accounts, account a  b.
 their directorys are resp. /home/a  /home/b.
 When i create a diretory with account a at /home/a/dir, and i chmod it
 757, i can write a file there from account b.

 Tijnema

 Tijnema wrote:
  On 5/19/07, Al [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  But, SSH and telnet, etc. require authentication login-in and all the
  executables you mentioned [and others] require
  someone who has access to upload a harmful file to start with.  Right?
  Once they are in there, they can do anything they
  please anyhow.
 
  Al.
 
  Well, you were talking about a shared linux host, so other people,
  from a different account, could just upload files, and if you have a
  directory with 757, that user could write to it.
 
  Tijnema
 
  Tijnema ! wrote:
   On 5/18/07, Al [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   How can they write or edit files there without having ftp access or
   the site's file manager?
  
   SSH access? Telnet maybe? PHP script? CGI script? ASP script?
  
   There are a lot of possible ways someone can write there.
  
   Tijnema
  
   Tijnema ! wrote:
On 5/18/07, Al [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm on a shared Linux host and have been wondering about
  security and
directory other [world] permissions.
   
The defaults are 755. The 'others' [world] can read them only.
   
Is there a security hole if a dir on the doc root if a directory
  has
permissions 757?
   
If there is a security problem, what is it?
   
Thanks...
   
   
If you have a directory with 757 permissions, world can create
new
files there.
   
And if you give files 757 (or 646) permissions, then world can
  edit
that file.
   
So if you have a doc dir, you probably don't want extra files
there.
It's not really a security problem, but if somebody notices it,
he
might write files there.
   
Tijnema
  
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Re: [PHP] php5 cert

2007-05-19 Thread Greg Donald

On 5/19/07, Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

As worthless as the php4 cert.


Mine has been very valuable to me, lots more job interviews and
freelance work compared to before I got it.


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Re: [PHP] Just to prove my point (used to be - Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list)

2007-05-19 Thread Stut

Jim Lucas wrote:

PHP Developer wrote:
some people don't remove the Re: prefix when answering to the 
questions It opens a new topic on the list and that's not appropriate 
. Thank ya


   -
Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story.
 Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. 


Clients that rely on the subject to determine if it a new thread are 
broken.


In fact, if you looked the headers of your email you will see a line 
like this


message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

my client takes that line and make a reference to it like this.

references: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

it will also create a new message-id: line.  something like this.

message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

if anybody replies to my message, the process is repeated.

Real, non-broken, email clients rely on the above lines to determine how 
messages belong to one another.   Again, it has nothing to do with the 
subject line.  Look at the subject line of this message.


As always it's not quite that simple. The problem is that there are no 
hard and fast rules regarding mail headers, so when threading you can't 
guarantee anything.


The standard, or accepted reference algorithm for threading emails can 
be found at http://www.jwz.org/doc/threading.html and is, I believe, 
still used in a large number of clients including Thunderbird. Gmail 
almost certainly uses their own concoction, but it probably follows 
similar rules.


-Stut

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Re: [PHP] Just to prove my point (used to be - Re: [PHP] People's misbehavior on the list)

2007-05-19 Thread Stut

Tijnema wrote:

Anyway, it works a lot better than Megasoft Outlook or such, they
don't group anything...


By default, no. But you can organise messages by thread. I don't like 
the way they display it, but I wish people would get their facts 
straight before passing comment on the easy target.


-Stut

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[PHP] Re: PHP5 Static functions called through __call() that don't exist... yet

2007-05-19 Thread Greg Beaver
Jared Farrish wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I am building an assertType object using static functions. What I want to
 keep away from is the following:
 
 code
 public static function assertString($para){
return $answer;
 };
 public static function assertBool($para){
return $answer;
 };
 ...
 public static function assertArray($para){
return $answer;
 };
 /code
 
 What I would like to do is replace this with the following:
 
 code
 if (!class_exists('TypeAssert')) {
class TypeAssert {
private static $types = array(
'array','bool','float','integer','null','numeric',
'object','resource','scalar','string'
);
public static function __call($method,$arguments) {
$obj = self::assertStandardTypes($arguments[0]);
return $obj-$method;
}
public static function assertStandardTypes($para) {
$r = TypeAssert::getTypesObject();
if (is_array($para))$r-array = true;
if (is_bool($para)) $r-bool = true;
if (is_float($para))$r-float = true;
if (is_integer($para))  $r-integer = true;
if (is_null($para)) $r-null = true;
if (is_numeric($para))  $r-numeric = true;
if (is_object($para))   $r-object = true;
if (is_resource($para)) $r-resource = true;
if (is_scalar($para))   $r-scalar = true;
if (is_string($para))   $r-string = true;
return $r;
}
public static function getTypesObject() {
$obj = (object) '';
for ($i = 0; $i  count(self::$types); $i++) {
$obj-{self::$types[$i]} = (bool) false;
}
return $obj;
}
}
 }
 echo('pre');
 echo(TypeAssert::string('test'));
 echo('/pre');
 /code
 
 I don't think this is possible (see
 http://marc.info/?l=php-generalm=114558851102060w=2). But I would LIKE
 for
 it to work (currently, the above code doesn't).
 
 Anybody have any insight on how I might get this to work?

Hi Jared,

I think you meant to post to php-general, but I can answer your question.

***PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO PEAR-GENERAL THANK YOU***

You can achieve what you want through this kind of code

?php

class TypeChecker
{
private static $types = array(
'array','bool','float','integer','null','numeric',
'object','resource','scalar','string'
);
public static $singleton;
static function init()
{
self::$singleton = new TypeChecker;
}
function __call($method, $args)
{
$test = new StdClass;
foreach (self::$types as $thing) {
$test-$thing = ${is$thing}($args[0]);
}
return $test-$method;
}
}
TypeChecker::init()
echo TypeChecker::$singleton-string('test');
?

However, I don't see any benefit to using static methods here.  Just use
an object.

?php

class TypeChecker
{
private $types = array(
'array','bool','float','integer','null','numeric',
'object','resource','scalar','string'
);
function __call($method, $args)
{
$test = new StdClass;
foreach (self::$types as $thing) {
$test-$thing = ${is$thing}($args[0]);
}
return $test-$method;
}
}
$check = new TypeChecker;
echo $check-string('test');
?

If you're trying to do several assertions and separate them into
classes, do something like so:

?php
class Tester
{
public $type;
...
function __construct()
{
$this-type = new TypeChecker;
}
}
$check = new Tester;
echo $check-type-string('test');
?

Greg

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Re: [PHP] Security Question, re directory permissions

2007-05-19 Thread Al

I use Hosting Matters.  It is super reliable and solid.

itoctopus wrote:

I'm genuinely interested to know with whom you're hosting...



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[PHP] Re: Include files....

2007-05-19 Thread Haydar TUNA
Hello,
Short tags (? ?) are only available when they are enabled via the 
short_open_tag php.ini configuration file directive, or if php was 
configured with the --enable-short-tags option. Did you configure your 
php.ini file?

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Jason Pruim [EMAIL PROTECTED], haber iletisinde sunlari 
yazdi:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Okay, Very Newbie-ish question coming!

 I can't figure out why my include won't work... Here's the text:

 index.php:
 ?PHP

 include 'defaults.php';

 $link = mysql_connect($server, $username, $password) or die('Could
 not connect: ' . mysql_error());
 echo 'Connected successfully BR';
 mysql_select_db($database) or die('Could not select database: ' .
 mysql_error());
 echo 'DB selected BR';

 $result = mysql_query($query) or die(mysql_error());
 $num=mysql_numrows($result);
 $i= 0;


 while($i  $num) {

 $FName = mysql_result($result, $i,FName);
 $LName = mysql_result($result,$i,LName);
 $Add1 = mysql_result($result, $i,Add1);
 $Add2 = mysql_result($result, $i,Add2);
 $City = mysql_result($result, $i,City);
 $State = mysql_result($result, $i,State);
 $Zip = mysql_result($result, $i,Zip);
 $Date = date(m-d-y h:i:s,mysql_result($result, $i, Date));
 $Record = mysql_result($result, $i, Record);
 $subName = mysql_result($result, $i,subName);
 $subEmail = mysql_result($result, $i,subEmail);
 $subPhone = mysql_result($result, $i,subPhone);
 $chkMember = unserialize(mysql_result($result, $i,chkMember));
 $chkAdd = unserialize(mysql_result($result, $i,chkAdd));
 $chkDel = unserialize(mysql_result($result, $i, chkDel));

 $i++;

 //echo P$Record $FName, $LName,/P P$Add1,BR $Add2,BR/P
 P$City, $State, $Zip,/P $Date,BR $subName, $subEmail,
 $subPhone, $chkMember[$row], $chkAdd[$row], $chkDel[$row]BR;

 echo H3Name Address/H3;
 echo P id ='test' $FName $LName $Add1 $Add2 $Date/P;

 };




 ?
 *
 defaults.php:

 $server = 'localhost';
 $username = 'USERNAME';
 $password = 'PASSWORD';
 $database = 'DATABASE';
 $query = 'SELECT * FROM current';

 Yes I changed the values of username, password, and database. But
 when I use the same info inside the index.php file it all works just
 fine. Here is the error that it gives me:

 [Fri May 18 15:32:07 2007] [error] PHP Notice:  Undefined variable:
 server in /Volumes/RAIDer/webserver/Documents/tests/legion/index.php
 on line 5
 [Fri May 18 15:32:07 2007] [error] PHP Notice:  Undefined variable:
 username in /Volumes/RAIDer/webserver/Documents/tests/legion/
 index.php on line 5
 [Fri May 18 15:32:07 2007] [error] PHP Notice:  Undefined variable:
 password in /Volumes/RAIDer/webserver/Documents/tests/legion/
 index.php on line 5
 [Fri May 18 15:32:07 2007] [error] PHP Warning:  mysql_connect() [a
 href='function.mysql-connect'function.mysql-connect/a]: Access
 denied for user 'USERNAME'@'localhost' (using password: NO) in /
 Volumes/RAIDer/webserver/Documents/tests/legion/index.php on line 5


 Thanks in advance for helping me through my obvious friday afternoon
 brain fart...




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Re: [PHP] mime type over http post?

2007-05-19 Thread Ray
Thanks for your help everybody.
I think I'll give the other company a link to this thread for the next person 
who asks for help.
Ray

On Wednesday 16 May 2007 6:57 pm, Oliver Block wrote:
 Hello Ray,

 1. create the xml markup (dom)
 2. open a connection to the 3rd party server (fsockopen)
 3. send the header (fputs)
 4. send the body (fputs)
 5. close the connection

 Additional Questions?

 Best Regards,

 Oliver

 P.S: I just know better where to look for information:-)

 - original Nachricht 

 Betreff: [PHP] mime type over http post?
 Gesendet: Mi, 16. Mai 2007
 Von: Ray[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Hello,
  I'm trying to write a web-based aplication that talks to a third party
  server.
  I'm having a hard time getting support from from them. the method of
  comunication (direct quote from their docs is:
  Data will be transferred to [server] via an HTTP POST operation using
  the MIME type, text/xml
 
  can anybody tell me what this means or how I do it using php?
  Thanks,
  Ray
 
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[PHP] Adserver programming with php

2007-05-19 Thread Merlin

Hi there,

I am thinking about creating a kind of adserver which is customized for 
my needs. As I would be most confident in doing this with php, I am 
asking myself if this is the right choice or if it would be wiser to 
take a C++ aproach for example to get a higher performance just in case 
the site grows fast.
Do you guys think that a php build webserver would be able to scale and 
perform well enough for serving millions of adimpressions daily?


Thank you for any advice,

Merlin

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Re: [PHP] Adserver programming with php

2007-05-19 Thread Davi
Em Sábado 19 Maio 2007 21:15, Merlin escreveu:
 I am thinking about creating a kind of adserver which is customized for
 my needs. As I would be most confident in doing this with php, I am
 asking myself if this is the right choice or if it would be wiser to
 take a C++ aproach for example to get a higher performance just in case
 the site grows fast.
 Do you guys think that a php build webserver would be able to scale and
 perform well enough for serving millions of adimpressions daily?


IIRC, AFAIK, using PHP or C or Java or C++ or anything else, your webserver 
will do all the dirty work...

If you'd portuguese skills, read [1], otherwise, I'll recomend you to build 
careful your server... And just put Web server (i.e. Apache) on it... DB 
server, mail server and other server must be in other machines...
Build careful means: use a _good_ Linux distro... If you can use Gentoo [2], 
you'll get better results...

[1] - http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-user-br/msg_11719.xml
[2] - www.gentoo.org

HTH


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Re: [PHP] Adserver programming with php

2007-05-19 Thread Jim Lucas

Merlin wrote:

Hi there,

I am thinking about creating a kind of adserver which is customized for 
my needs. As I would be most confident in doing this with php, I am 
asking myself if this is the right choice or if it would be wiser to 
take a C++ aproach for example to get a higher performance just in case 
the site grows fast.
Do you guys think that a php build webserver would be able to scale and 
perform well enough for serving millions of adimpressions daily?


Thank you for any advice,

Merlin



Just build the darn thing.

It is a simple script, if you find that performance is an issue, then 
change your approach.


You can't tell me that your site will explode in usage over night and 
you wont get the chance to change your design before things get out of hand.


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[PHP] Re: Adserver programming with php

2007-05-19 Thread Al

Use php and get the site on the air ASAP, so it generates revenue.

You can a quickly and cheaply upgrade the hardware if the need arises.  The OS and webserver software will probably make 
a bigger difference.  Seems like I recall someone said Google and Yahoo use PHP.


Merlin wrote:

Hi there,

I am thinking about creating a kind of adserver which is customized for 
my needs. As I would be most confident in doing this with php, I am 
asking myself if this is the right choice or if it would be wiser to 
take a C++ aproach for example to get a higher performance just in case 
the site grows fast.
Do you guys think that a php build webserver would be able to scale and 
perform well enough for serving millions of adimpressions daily?


Thank you for any advice,

Merlin


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Re: [PHP] Re: Adserver programming with php

2007-05-19 Thread Larry Garfield
Google is a Python shop primarily, but Yahoo employs a good chunk of the PHP 
internals development team, like Rasmus and Sara Goleman.  They do a ton with 
PHP.

On Saturday 19 May 2007, Al wrote:
 Use php and get the site on the air ASAP, so it generates revenue.

 You can a quickly and cheaply upgrade the hardware if the need arises.  The
 OS and webserver software will probably make a bigger difference.  Seems
 like I recall someone said Google and Yahoo use PHP.

 Merlin wrote:
  Hi there,
 
  I am thinking about creating a kind of adserver which is customized for
  my needs. As I would be most confident in doing this with php, I am
  asking myself if this is the right choice or if it would be wiser to
  take a C++ aproach for example to get a higher performance just in case
  the site grows fast.
  Do you guys think that a php build webserver would be able to scale and
  perform well enough for serving millions of adimpressions daily?
 
  Thank you for any advice,
 
  Merlin


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