Re: Announce: 7fach BlitzMenu
Congratulations! On March 12, 2015 7:29:02 PM CET, Alexander Burger a...@software-lab.de wrote: Hello list, let me announce 7fach BlitzMenu, our first attempt for a public application since 9 years :) It is for gastronomers, restaurants or canteens, to maintain their dishes and beverages in a database, and allow them to generate their daily or weekly menus with just a few mouse clicks. Independent from the question whether it will be a commercial success (I hope it does), it has some interesting aspects from a technical (PicoLisp) point of view: 1. It allows the user to directly edit PostScript layout templates in a Canvas. Then these layouts can be combined with groups of articles from the database to generate PDF and HTML files. 2. I found out that the '+Bag' relations can be nested. This allows the creation of multi-dimensional data structures, directly in the DB model. Normally, a (+List +Bag) represents a two-dimensional table, which maps to a '+Chart' in the GUI. To my own surprise, it works also if an element in a bag is a (+List +Bag) again (i.e. nested Bags), resulting in a three-dimensional structure: (rel grp (+List +Bag) # Groups/Articles ((+Bool)) # Aktive ((+String)) # Description ((+List +Bag) # Articles ((+Bool)) # Aktive ((+Link) (+Art)) ) )# Article And: I found a way to allow direct editing of these structures in the GUI, by connecting charts on the different levels with radio buttons. In principle, this can be extended to as many dimensions as desired. The system is ready for production use now, and can be found at http://BlitzMenu.7fach.de Initial language is German, but you can switch to English if you like. Other languages are planned but not yet supported. The second entry in the navigation on the left is Introduction. Here you may view a short video (without sound) showing the basic usage. And the third entry is Try yourself. If you click on Start demo application you get a private demo database in a sandbox, where you can play around yourself. Note that your data are lost when you close the browser session. Please don't submit the form on New registration (unless, of course, you want to become a customer ;) ♪♫ Alex -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe -- Skickat från min Android-telefon med K-9 E-post. Ursäkta min fåordighet.
Google Code closing
Hi, It looks like PicoLisp will have to move from Google Code: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/03/google-to-close-google-code-open-source-project-hosting/ Maybe GitHub could be a good alternative? I like being able to keep an eye on what Alex is working on. ;-) /Jon-- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Google Code closing
Github.com is really nice. On March 13, 2015 9:02:10 AM CET, Jon Kleiser jon.klei...@fsat.no wrote: Hi, It looks like PicoLisp will have to move from Google Code: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/03/google-to-close-google-code-open-source-project-hosting/ Maybe GitHub could be a good alternative? I like being able to keep an eye on what Alex is working on. ;-) /Jon-- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe -- Skickat från min Android-telefon med K-9 E-post. Ursäkta min fåordighet.
Re: Google Code closing
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Jon Kleiser jon.klei...@fsat.no wrote: Maybe GitHub could be a good alternative? I like being able to keep an eye on what Alex is working on. ;-) +1 for GitHub please -- If technology is your thing plan to die reading manuals --Gene Woolsey -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Google Code closing
Github.com is more than a repo, it's a community of developers. On March 13, 2015 12:56:32 PM CET, Alexander Burger a...@software-lab.de wrote: Hi all, Alea iacta est :) Mike Pechkin has set up a repo at bitbucket. More next week. ♪♫ Alex -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe -- Skickat från min Android-telefon med K-9 E-post. Ursäkta min fåordighet.
RE: Google Code closing
Mike Pechkin has set up a repo at bitbucket. More next week. [...] Github.com is more than a repo, it's a community of developers. Once the repo is available on bitbucket, it will be trivial to set up an automatic mirror. Philosophically, I favor bitbucket. Pragmatically, I favor github(R). A mirror (with bitbucket being primary) serves both masters. If no one on the list already knows how to set up the automatic mirror and volunteers to do it, I'll volunteer to learn how to do it. Cheers, --Dave
Re: Google Code closing
Everyone's comments are valid, but we need to remember: For PicoLisp's user base to grow, lowering barriers to entry should be the first priority. On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Loyall, David david.loy...@nebraska.gov wrote: Mike Pechkin has set up a repo at bitbucket. More next week. [...] Github.com is more than a repo, it's a community of developers. Once the repo is available on bitbucket, it will be trivial to set up an automatic mirror. Philosophically, I favor bitbucket. Pragmatically, I favor github(R). A mirror (with bitbucket being primary) serves both masters. If no one on the list already knows how to set up the automatic mirror and volunteers to do it, I'll volunteer to learn how to do it. Cheers, --Dave
Re: Google Code closing
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 9:23 PM, Alexander Burger a...@software-lab.de wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 02:04:21PM +0100, Jakob Eriksson wrote: Github.com is more than a repo, it's a community of developers. Hmm, this may well be. I have no idea, as I personally have no deep interest in code repositories. The power of the github community worth consideration. It might attract the attention of exceptional talent... -- tom
Re: Google Code closing
The power of the github community and the level of talent there are impressive. Seems like others have generally recognized that: http://www.engadget.com/2015/03/13/google-code-closing/. Cheers. On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 09:41:11PM +0800, Tamas Herman wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 9:23 PM, Alexander Burger a...@software-lab.de wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 02:04:21PM +0100, Jakob Eriksson wrote: Github.com is more than a repo, it's a community of developers. Hmm, this may well be. I have no idea, as I personally have no deep interest in code repositories. The power of the github community worth consideration. It might attract the attention of exceptional talent... -- tom -- Joe Golden -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Google Code closing
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 02:04:21PM +0100, Jakob Eriksson wrote: Github.com is more than a repo, it's a community of developers. Hmm, this may well be. I have no idea, as I personally have no deep interest in code repositories. We discussed and discuss such things in IRC usually. Those who offer their help first win ;) ♪♫ Alex -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Google Code closing
I'm on both networks and we actually use both at work and we are paid users of both. The current idea is to use bitbucket for the in-house private source repos and github for the open source projects. I don't have a strong preference for either one, because I think git is suck in general. I was a long time fan of http://darcs.net , but I didn't have the chance to use it recently. I have to admit though that the lack of proper interactive commit tool for darcs puts it behind git, no matter how crap git is otherwise. :( It really makes me sad but I'm not skilled enough to write such a tool... The equivalent of github in darcs land is http://hub.darcs.net which looks very simple but quite powerful actually and u can host it yourself too. There is http://fossil-scm.org too which has a lot of nice aspects, like size, built-in wiki, etc, but there is no equivalent of github for it as far as I know. These last 2 are closer to the spirit of picolisp's minimalis, that's why I thought it's worth mentioning them. -- tom
Re: Google Code closing
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Alexander Williams a...@unscramble.co.jp wrote: Everyone's comments are valid, but we need to remember: For PicoLisp's user base to grow, lowering barriers to entry should be the first priority. The choice of the repo wouldn't have any effect on pure picolisp users, but on developers or translators of the language. Except maybe for contributing to documentation. Personaly, I'd prefer git/GitHub since I already tried to contribute to a project on BitBucket but failed miserably. Anyway, I'm more a user than a dev of picolisp. https://code.google.com/p/support-tools/wiki/MigratingToBitbucket seems to require several steps. https://code.google.com/export-to-github/ seems to be more automated, but: «The Google Code Exporter is experiencing extremely high traffic. The export queue is full. Please come back later. » chri -- http://profgra.org/lycee/ (site pro) http://delicious.com/profgraorg (liens, favoris) https://twitter.com/profgraorg http://microalg.info -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
27 implementations of a Lisp
Hi, I thought some people here might be interested by this: https://github.com/kanaka/mal Excerpt from the readme: ««« Mal is a learning tool. See the make-a-lisp process guide. Each implementation of mal is separated into 11 incremental, self-contained (and testable) steps that demonstrate core concepts of Lisp. The last step is capable of self-hosting (running the mal implementation of mal). The mal (make a lisp) steps are: step0_repl step1_read_print step2_eval step3_env step4_if_fn_do step5_tco step6_file step7_quote step8_macros step9_try stepA_mal »»» chri -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Google Code closing
And github.com has like, what, 1000 times more developers. :-) On March 13, 2015 4:32:05 PM CET, Alexander Williams a...@unscramble.co.jp wrote: Everyone's comments are valid, but we need to remember: For PicoLisp's user base to grow, lowering barriers to entry should be the first priority. On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Loyall, David david.loy...@nebraska.gov wrote: Mike Pechkin has set up a repo at bitbucket. More next week. [...] Github.com is more than a repo, it's a community of developers. Once the repo is available on bitbucket, it will be trivial to set up an automatic mirror. Philosophically, I favor bitbucket. Pragmatically, I favor github(R). A mirror (with bitbucket being primary) serves both masters. If no one on the list already knows how to set up the automatic mirror and volunteers to do it, I'll volunteer to learn how to do it. Cheers, --Dave -- Skickat från min Android-telefon med K-9 E-post. Ursäkta min fåordighet.
