RE: [pinhole-discussion] Hardware geeks

2001-03-21 Thread Andy Schmitt
yep, I'll second that!!
andy
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  In a message dated 3/21/01 1:38:47 PM Pacific Standard Time,
  tima...@hotmail.com writes:



Well,you know, a lot of people hide behind the equipment question and
think
that if only they had the right or a really good camera they could
be
great photographers. What is really missing is the confidence in
themselves
and their own vision. They don't really believe it's the person that
clicks
the shutter (removes the lenscap?)that creates the magic. Too bad they
are
afraid to screw up, to allow that old serendipidy to happen.


  You know what? I love technology,But i think some of my best work has come
  from my little expermentsand not from my high tech crap :)
  just my 2 cents,
  Harry
  Figurefoto.com


Re: [pinhole-discussion] Hardware geeks

2001-03-21 Thread Benno Jones
Well, I'm kinda a hardware geek, but I have no illusions as to a camera
making me a better photographer in terms of technique, I just love
cameras! :-)  I think they're often beautiful pieces of machinery and
fun to fool around with.  When I got my Exakta VX-IIa, I just sat and
looked at it for an hour or so.  What a beautiful camera it is!  Much
more aesthetically pleasing than my Nikon N70, which for all it's
features is just a black piece of plastic.  I love the look of my two
Zero2000s much more than my Leonardo 4x5 just because Zernike makes them
look nice with varnish and brass.  Both take great shots, but the
Zero2000 is out where I can see it.

However, I do believe that depending on your needs a certain piece of
camera equipment can make you a better photographer in that if you
really need an incredibly sharp photo, or you really need a macro lens,
or you really need a telephoto lens to make the shot you want, then you
probably really need that piece of equipment.  Of course, the equipment
is just facilitating the ideas in this case, they didn't create them. 
But without them, you can't be the photographer you want to be.

Hope that makes some kind of sense.

Benno Jones

Tina Martin wrote:
 
 Well,you know, a lot of people hide behind the equipment question and think
 that if only they had the right or a really good camera they could be
 great photographers. What is really missing is the confidence in themselves
 and their own vision. They don't really believe it's the person that clicks
 the shutter (removes the lenscap?)that creates the magic. Too bad they are
 afraid to screw up, to allow that old serendipidy to happen.
 Tina
 
  They weren't the least bit interested, when I showed them the cap and my
 zone plate matted (and hand colored) images.
 
 Not supprizing, they are all hardware geeks. They are in love with the
 machines, and not the images they produce. Photographs are only an excuse
 to play with their toys. When I run into people that only wan't to talk
 about their cameras and lenses my responce has become - show me what you
 have done, not what you own. Kurt
 
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Hardware geeks

2001-03-21 Thread edwin gendron
Well,you know, a lot of people hide behind the equipment question 
and think that if only they had the right or a really good 
camera they could be great photographers. What is really missing is 
the confidence in themselves and their own vision.
*Very true, it is creative vision, or a good eye,  that makes a 
wonderful photo. (or painting, or whatever) I once worked in a photo 
store  had a woman come in, steam coming out of her ears and demand 
to know why the Nikon she bought from us made crappy photos!!
she said it's an expensive camera, I paid plenty,  and I want to 
know why it doesn't take good pictures!!

Oh boy!!
The camera won't do it for you, you have to.
Nothing will compare to a well conceived and well executed idea.

 They don't really believe it's the person that clicks the shutter 
(removes the lenscap?)that creates the magic. Too bad they are 
afraid to screw up, to allow that old serendipidy to happen.

Yeah, they probably are.
I think that the flip side of this coin,  is that I do believe that a 
certain amount of gear IS helpful, and can improve on what you are 
capable of doing. (differing focal length pinholes, a zone plate or 
rangefinder for proper framing, different focal-length lenses for 
lens photo)

Beyond that  line though,  lies the title gearhead


Re: [pinhole-discussion] Hardware geeks

2001-03-21 Thread Figurefoto
In a message dated 3/21/01 1:38:47 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
tima...@hotmail.com writes:


 Well,you know, a lot of people hide behind the equipment question and think 
 that if only they had the right or a really good camera they could be 
 great photographers. What is really missing is the confidence in themselves 
 and their own vision. They don't really believe it's the person that clicks 
 the shutter (removes the lenscap?)that creates the magic. Too bad they are 
 

You know what? I love technology,But i think some of my best work has come 
from my little expermentsand not from my high tech crap :)
just my 2 cents,
 Harry 
 A HREF=http://www.figurefoto.com/;Figurefoto.com/A


Re: [pinhole-discussion] Hardware geeks

2001-03-21 Thread Tina Martin
Well,you know, a lot of people hide behind the equipment question and think 
that if only they had the right or a really good camera they could be 
great photographers. What is really missing is the confidence in themselves 
and their own vision. They don't really believe it's the person that clicks 
the shutter (removes the lenscap?)that creates the magic. Too bad they are 
afraid to screw up, to allow that old serendipidy to happen.

Tina

They weren't the least bit interested, when I showed them the cap and my 
zone plate matted (and hand colored) images.


Not supprizing, they are all hardware geeks. They are in love with the 
machines, and not the images they produce. Photographs are only an excuse 
to play with their toys. When I run into people that only wan't to talk 
about their cameras and lenses my responce has become - show me what you 
have done, not what you own. Kurt


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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pinhole photo book on Venice

2001-03-21 Thread B2MYOUNG
In a message dated 3/20/01 5:54:55 PM, pen...@home.com writes:

 THAT IS WHAT IT'S CALLED A NON-KOSHER MENCHE!! 

 
LOL

Kosher, smosher...you don't have to be Jewish to be a mensche!
leezy



Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pinhole photo book on Venice

2001-03-21 Thread B2MYOUNG
In a message dated 3/20/01 5:08:40 PM, guy.glori...@sympatico.ca writes:

 Hmmm. ...   ..  .Are  menches allowed 
to
have fun, I mean real fun, like doing crazy things in the middle of the 
night,
eating dessert before the soup, walking in the rain without rain boots or an
umbrella, making soap bubbles in the bath?  I mean, all these crazy things, 
like
replacing a Hasselblad by a pinhole camera and having fun?   Hope so!   
...-:))
 

Yep! Those are some of the pre-requisites. To be a menche...ya' gotta' have 
fun!
leezy