RE: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid 545 back
See my reply to Mark. Regards Derek Derek Watkins Associates 27 Bray's Lane Coventry CV2 4DT Tel:024 7645 4419 Fax:024 7645 8989 Mobile: 077 7893 3094 -Original Message- From: INTERNET:pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: 03 September 2001 12:48 To: INTERNET:pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject:Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid 545 back My experience with pinhole color polaroid is that you get terrible ugly green color shifts.
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid 545 back
My experience with pinhole color polaroid is that you get terrible ugly green color shifts. - Original Message - From: mdelman mdel...@rochester.rr.com To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 3:57 AM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid 545 back Derek: Do you have similar exposure time information for other ISO's of polaroid film BW and color) Thanks. -Mark - Original Message - From: Calfee, Laura lcal...@central.uh.edu To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 5:46 PM Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid 545 back just what I was looking for. Thanks so much! -Original Message- From: Derek Watkins [mailto:100015@compuserve.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 8:59 AM To: 'INTERNET:pinhole-discussion@p at ???' Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid 545 back Laura Excuse me for butting in. I regularlyuse Type 55 at ISO 25 and use the following reciprocity corrections: Indicated exposure Correction factor Final exposure 8 seconds 2x 16 seconds 16 seconds 2.5x40 seconds 32 seconds 3x 96 seconds 64 seconds 4x 256 seconds 2 minutes 5x 10 minutes 4 minutes 6x 24 minutes Hope this helps. Regards Derek Watkins -- From: INTERNET:pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: 27 August 2001 22:13 To: 'pinhole-discussion@p at ???' Subject:RE: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid 545 back Bill, When you rate Type 55 at ISO 25, is there a need to calculate for reciprocity failure. If so, how do you do so? I've been using Type 55 with my Leonardo with some good results but I've just been guessing at the exposures. I'd appreciate any suggestions you have. Laura ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid 545 back
Likewise the new Kodak single sheet readyloads. Best success if you load it while holding it in your hand, then insert in camera. It's easier to tell if it's hooked properly. - Original Message - From: Katharine Thayer ktha...@pacifier.com To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid 545 back Andy Schmitt wrote: The 545 back is only for Polaroid sheet film..It does allow you to use Polaroid where previously only sheet film holders could go. I've heard some people trying to use ready-loads in them but without much success... The instruction sheet that comes with Fuji Quickload film includes instructions for how to use it with the Polaroid 545 back as well as with the Fuji Quickload back, so apparently Fuji at least thinks the Fuji Quickload works fine in the Polaroid back. Katharine Thayer ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
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Andy Schmitt wrote: The 545 back is only for Polaroid sheet film..It does allow you to use Polaroid where previously only sheet film holders could go. I've heard some people trying to use ready-loads in them but without much success... The instruction sheet that comes with Fuji Quickload film includes instructions for how to use it with the Polaroid 545 back as well as with the Fuji Quickload back, so apparently Fuji at least thinks the Fuji Quickload works fine in the Polaroid back. Katharine Thayer
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid 545 back
just what I was looking for. Thanks so much! -Original Message- From: Derek Watkins [mailto:100015@compuserve.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 8:59 AM To: 'INTERNET:pinhole-discussion@p at ???' Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid 545 back Laura Excuse me for butting in. I regularlyuse Type 55 at ISO 25 and use the following reciprocity corrections: Indicated exposure Correction factor Final exposure 8 seconds 2x 16 seconds 16 seconds 2.5x40 seconds 32 seconds 3x 96 seconds 64 seconds 4x 256 seconds 2 minutes 5x 10 minutes 4 minutes 6x 24 minutes Hope this helps. Regards Derek Watkins -- From: INTERNET:pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: 27 August 2001 22:13 To: 'pinhole-discussion@p at ???' Subject:RE: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid 545 back Bill, When you rate Type 55 at ISO 25, is there a need to calculate for reciprocity failure. If so, how do you do so? I've been using Type 55 with my Leonardo with some good results but I've just been guessing at the exposures. I'd appreciate any suggestions you have. Laura ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid 545 back
Laura Excuse me for butting in. I regularlyuse Type 55 at ISO 25 and use the following reciprocity corrections: Indicated exposure Correction factor Final exposure 8 seconds 2x 16 seconds 16 seconds 2.5x40 seconds 32 seconds 3x 96 seconds 64 seconds 4x 256 seconds 2 minutes 5x 10 minutes 4 minutes 6x 24 minutes Hope this helps. Regards Derek Watkins -- From: INTERNET:pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: 27 August 2001 22:13 To: 'pinhole-discussion@p at ???' Subject:RE: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid 545 back Bill, When you rate Type 55 at ISO 25, is there a need to calculate for reciprocity failure. If so, how do you do so? I've been using Type 55 with my Leonardo with some good results but I've just been guessing at the exposures. I'd appreciate any suggestions you have. Laura
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid 545 back
Hi all ! You will find plenty of practical info and useful advices on the Large Format site maintained by QT Luong, where a whole chapter is devoted to all kinds of holders and specially Grafmatik, Readyload, Fuji, Polaroïd . Have a look at it! The address is : http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~qtluong/photography/lf/holders.html Hope it can help ! Happy pinholing, from France Jean - Original Message - From: lva l...@pamho.net To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid 545 back
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid 545 back
I have two packs of TriX Film Packs that will fit your back if you want them. They went out of date in Sept. 1969. Mike Vande Bunt wrote: Just a warning for any of you who may be looking for a Graphic Polaroid pack film adapter (I got one as part of an oscilloscope camera): Do not accidentally bid on a Graphic Film Pack Adapter -- this was for non-instant packs of sheet film that used a pull-tab system like the Polaroid packs, BUT the film packs used by these holders have not been made for many years. Make certain that the auction listing specifically states Polaroid in the description. -- Chris Peregoy | http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~peregoy | http://imda.umbc.edu/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid 545 back
Kodak have discontinued the double sided sheet readyload film, but are now producing a sigle film envelope to go in a new holder - not released yet. However they say it will fit the 545 back without a problem. Tests reported on the web are very encouraging. Cost (in UK) is @ £20 a box of 20 envelopes of TMAX that is @ 25% more than the cost of the normal T Max sheets. I am going to give it a try as it beats walking around with a stack of film holders. Very interesting. Do you know if Kodak has Tmax 100 as readyloads for 8x10 holders? Brahma
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid 545 back
Reportedly (www.graflex.org) the 545 back CAN be used with Fiji Quickloads and the Kodak equivalent that I can't seem to remember the name of. (Though the correct holders for those film loads are cheaer than a 545 if you have no interest in using Polaroid materials...) Mike Vande Bunt Sally Bowker wrote: Terry, Are you wanting to use polaroid film in the 545 back or are you thinking of somehow using it as a holder for regular sheet film? That would be very interesting to me also if it's possible. Sally Bowker Can anyone give me advice on using sheet film in a polaroid 545 back on a pinhole camera? Results with different films etc. Thanks, Terry ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
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Don't use the 3000 speed bw film unless you have an actual shutter; the exposures are usually in the fraction of a second range. WITH a shutter it is a great film to use becaue you can hand hold the camera. (I have used it in a Speed Graphic with pinhole.) Mike Vande Bunt Ann King wrote: Can anyone give me advice on using sheet film in a polaroid 545 back on a pinhole camera? Results with different films etc. Thanks, Terry
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More thread hijacking... Years ago I did some fiddling with single sheet 4x5 polaroid. I was trying to make a do-it-yourself polaroid back on a pinhole camera. I never got it working - but didn't persist. I did discover that one can take a polaroid sheet, expose it in the standard single sheet back, pull the sheet out without engaging the rollers, and process the film by rolling something smooth rigid and round over the chemical pod. This bursts the pod and processes the film. No need for a somewhat expensive back - the film is expensive enough! If one could make up a latch and darkslide stop they would have a workable DIY polaroid back. Gord On Sun, 26 Aug 2001, Guillermo wrote: I don't mean to hijack the thread but, talking about Polaroid, there are at eBay quite a few number of Graphic Polaroid adapters that take Polaroid pack film, I believe this is the less expensive 600 type of film (665 for instance is the positive+negative film). They don't go for a lot of money and IMO can easily be used in a pinhole set up, you know, screwed to wooden box, taped to a cardboard box, etc. Just thought to let you people know, for the benefit os those that, like me, didn't know this things existed. Guillermo ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ - Gordon J. Holtslander Dept. of Biology hol...@duke.usask.ca112 Science Place http://duke.usask.ca/~holtsgUniversity of Saskatchewan Tel (306) 966-4433 Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Fax (306) 966-4461 Canada S7N 5E2 -
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid 545 back
It's been so long I don't remember. I do recall, though, that there's a table of reciprocity corrections for different films in Steve Simmons' book on using the view camera. - Original Message - From: Calfee, Laura To: 'pinhole-discussion@p at ???' Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 3:58 PM Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid 545 back Bill, When you rate Type 55 at ISO 25, is there a need to calculate for reciprocity failure. If so, how do you do so? I've been using Type 55 with my Leonardo with some good results but I've just been guessing at the exposures. I'd appreciate any suggestions you have. Laura . - Original Message - From: Bill Erickson To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid 545 back The fact that you use readyloads in a polaoid back is entirely coincidental to the outcome. Polaroid type 55, exposed at ISO 25, will give you excellenmt BW negatives. The new Kodak single sheet readyloads should work well also. The image size of the polaroid holder is a trifel smaller than the regular holder, but that's a minor point.
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid 545 back
Bill, When you rate Type 55 at ISO 25, is there a need to calculate for reciprocity failure. If so, how do you do so? I've been using Type 55 with my Leonardo with some good results but I've just been guessing at the exposures. I'd appreciate any suggestions you have. Laura . - Original Message - From: Bill Erickson mailto:erick...@hickorytech.net To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? mailto:pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid 545 back The fact that you use readyloads in a polaoid back is entirely coincidental to the outcome. Polaroid type 55, exposed at ISO 25, will give you excellenmt BW negatives. The new Kodak single sheet readyloads should work well also. The image size of the polaroid holder is a trifel smaller than the regular holder, but that's a minor point.
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid 545 back
I don't mean to hijack the thread but, talking about Polaroid, there are at eBay quite a few number of Graphic Polaroid adapters that take Polaroid pack film, I believe this is the less expensive 600 type of film (665 for instance is the positive+negative film). They don't go for a lot of money and IMO can easily be used in a pinhole set up, you know, screwed to wooden box, taped to a cardboard box, etc. Just thought to let you people know, for the benefit os those that, like me, didn't know this things existed. Guillermo
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--- Colin Talcroft ctalcr...@yahoo.com wrote: I was surprised to see someone here say that people say they have trouble with them. The only difficult thing is that removing them from the holder is sometimes difficult, but I find the Polaroid films difficult to remove too (removing them without putting them through the built-in processing rollers). I have yet to be able to successfully do this. Normally, the metal portion detatchs itself from the unit, ruining the negative. I gave up on this quite some time back (way too expensive to continue trying). Cheers - george = Handmade Photographic Images http://members.home.net/hmpi/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid 545 back
Kodak have discontinued the double sided sheet readyload film, but are now producing a sigle film envelope to go in a new holder - not released yet. However they say it will fit the 545 back without a problem. Tests reported on the web are very encouraging. Cost (in UK) is @ £20 a box of 20 envelopes of TMAX that is @ 25% more than the cost of the normal T Max sheets. I am going to give it a try as it beats walking around with a stack of film holders. Robin
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid 545 back
The fact that you use readyloads in a polaoid back is entirely coincidental to the outcome. Polaroid type 55, exposed at ISO 25, will give you excellenmt BW negatives. The new Kodak single sheet readyloads should work well also. The image size of the polaroid holder is a trifel smaller than the regular holder, but that's a minor point. - Original Message - From: Ann King To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 9:11 AM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid 545 back Can anyone give me advice on using sheet film in a polaroid 545 back on a pinhole camera? Results with different films etc. Thanks, Terry
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interesting...I've had so many people in other newsgroups berate the combination... I'll have to give it a try.. thanks andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Colin Talcroft Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 2:22 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid 545 back I use the Polaroid 545 back with the Kodak Ready Loads all the time with great success. They are very easy to use. I don't know what range of films is available in the Ready Load format, but I use the T-Max 100 version. They come in boxes of ten with two sheets in each. You expose one side, remove it and then turn it over to use the other side--much like a traditional film holder. I was surprised to see someone here say that people say they have trouble with them. The only difficult thing is that removing them from the holder is sometimes difficult, but I find the Polaroid films difficult to remove too (removing them without putting them through the built-in processing rollers). In fact, I have ruined more Polaroid film doing this than I have the Ready Loads. I recommend them if you can afford the extra expense. The per-sheet cost of the film will be higher than if you loaded sheet film into ordinary holders. Colin __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid 545 back
I use the Polaroid 545 back with the Kodak Ready Loads all the time with great success. They are very easy to use. I don't know what range of films is available in the Ready Load format, but I use the T-Max 100 version. They come in boxes of ten with two sheets in each. You expose one side, remove it and then turn it over to use the other side--much like a traditional film holder. I was surprised to see someone here say that people say they have trouble with them. The only difficult thing is that removing them from the holder is sometimes difficult, but I find the Polaroid films difficult to remove too (removing them without putting them through the built-in processing rollers). In fact, I have ruined more Polaroid film doing this than I have the Ready Loads. I recommend them if you can afford the extra expense. The per-sheet cost of the film will be higher than if you loaded sheet film into ordinary holders. Colin __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid 545 back
Terry, Are you wanting to use polaroid film in the 545 back or are you thinking of somehow using it as a holder for regular sheet film? That would be very interesting to me also if it's possible. Sally Bowker Can anyone give me advice on using sheet film in a polaroid 545 back on a pinhole camera? Results with different films etc. Thanks, Terry
[pinhole-discussion] Polaroid 545 back
Can anyone give me advice on using sheet film in a polaroid 545 back on a pinhole camera? Results with different films etc. Thanks, Terry