Re: [pinhole-discussion] Newbie Intro. and a few questions-How to develop ortho

2002-08-13 Thread George L Smyth
--- jmeyerh...@aol.com wrote:
 How do you develop ortho film for continuous tone? Thank you...j

Use dilute Dektol.  I use Dektol 1+15, though I may opt for 1+10 through 1+20
depending upon the scene and its final purpose (I might use 1+10 if I am going
to print with the Van Dyke process).  Best thing to do is to experiment.

Cheers-

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Newbie Intro. and a few questions-How to develop ortho

2002-08-13 Thread JMeyerhofe
How do you develop ortho film for continuous tone? Thank you...j



Re: [pinhole-discussion] Newbie Intro. and a few questions

2002-08-13 Thread Gordon J. Holtslander
Hi:

For my pinhole stuff I mostly shoot 8x10, but I use ortho film but develop
it as continuous tone film. My 8x10 film costs me CA$70.00 for 100 sheets
I contact print these images, usually on cyanotype.

This can actually make things very convenient.

I recently returned from a vacation.  As an experiment I packed two
pinhole cameras, a pack of 8x10 ortho film, developer, fix a safe light, 3
trays, a small piece of upholstory foam, some large metal spring clips and
some cyanotype paper I had coated.

We were staying with friends.  I asked ahead of time if I could use their
laundry room as a makeshift darkroom.

I was able to load my cameras, and process the film in the laundry room.
All I needed to do was plug in my safelight and put the trays on the
counter (a freezer actually).  They had a laundry sink as well which made
things very convenient.  I dried the film by hanging it from a hanger with
a wooden clothes pin.

To make prints I found a piece of glass and a piece of scrap plywood - a
contact frame.  To print I sandwiched the 8x10 neg, cyanotype paper and
foam between the glass and the wood and clipped it together.  I then set
it out in the sun for 10 minutes and then developed the cyanotype in a
tray of tap water, and hung it to dry.

I left my friends with a small collection of 8x10 and 4x10 cyanotype
prints.  They were enthralled with how one can make fascinating pictures
with the simplest technology.

Large format orhto and cyanotype make for a very simple and convenient
combination.  No expensive darkroom necessary - just a room that can be
made dark and the sun :)

Contact printing large pinhole negs gives pretty sharp looking images.

If you want to try alternative processes cyanotype is the cheapest and
easiest.

Gord

On Mon, 12 Aug 2002, Fox, Robert wrote:

 Short introduction:  I'm an amateur photographer in the Washington DC area
 shooting mostly medium format on-location portraits and architectural stuff.
 I shoot mostly BW print, but also use transparencies (usually Fuji Provia
 100). I am fascinated by the potential of pinhole photography and am looking
 to buy a pre-made camera after seeing the beautiful examples on the resource
 page. I use mostly all-manual cameras, so getting into pinhole feels pretty
 natural. I hate the way modern electronics can get in the way of the image
 making process.

 Are there any practical reasons to shoot at 4x5 rather than 8x10?  I suppose
 it would be easy enough to do both, but I'm wondering about people's
 preferences for architectural and portrait work. The multi-format Zero2000
 looks like a good starter as well given the choice of formats for standard
 roll film.

 I must say I am blown away by the quality and creativeness of the images I
 have seen on the April 28 pinhole day gallery -- really inspiring! One of
 the best photographic events I've ever seen -- simple and powerful.

 Anyway, I'm here to learn and am glad to participate.

 R.J.





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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Newbie Intro. and a few questions

2002-08-12 Thread Mark Beauchamp
William Erickson wrote:

 The rolls are just in there loose, with a pressure plate that tends to push
 them out of position. The lid seems to be engineered so closely that it does
 hang up when you try to put it on. Worse than trying to load a Leica. You
 need good vision to see the numbers on the back of the film because the hole
 is so small and deep.

Hi

I have the Zero Image 2000 (6X6 version) and I find it fairly easy to load.
Place the feed spool on the brass knob, pull out some of the paper leader, feed
it into the slot on the take-up spool, give it a turn, place the take up spool
on the brass knob.  Now use two fingers to create tension between the two
spools and slide on the back.  Creating tension stops the paper from buckling
and catching on the back.  Place the top on the camera and turn the winding
knob until it lines up with the groove on the take-up spool and it falls into
place.  Tighten the lock down knob and you are ready to advance to first
frame.  Hopefully this makes some sense, though I do work as a motion picture
camera assistant and compared to some movie camera loading and threading  still
cameras don't pose much of a challenge.

I do agree that it is sometimes difficult to read the number especially in low
light due to the hole being so deep, but hey it's made of wood.

I do like this camera but do find it too fast (if this makes sense) in bright
sunlight.  You need 50 ASA film  or you find yourself with less than one second
exposures.

--Mark




Re: [pinhole-discussion] Newbie Intro. and a few questions

2002-08-12 Thread Fox, Robert
William,

Thanks for the feedback -- can you tell me why the 6x9 multi format Zero was
so hard to load? I've heard there can be some difficulty in getting the lid
on over the film rolls. The results I've seen from this camera have been
very nice, although 5x4 beckons!

R.J.
R.J. Fox
Member Reference Team
Member Communications Mgmt.
(202) 434-3429; r...@aarp.org



Re: [pinhole-discussion] Newbie Intro. and a few questions

2002-08-12 Thread William Erickson
I just spent a week helping a friend load his new multiformat zero etc. What
a pain! As for 4x5 vs 8x10, 4x5 gives you a lot more choices. 8x10 satisfies
the purist. Look at choices at www.pinholeresource.com.
- Original Message -
From: Fox, Robert r...@aarp.org
To: Pinhole List (E-mail) pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 8:20 AM
Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Newbie Intro. and a few questions


 Short introduction:  I'm an amateur photographer in the Washington DC area
 shooting mostly medium format on-location portraits and architectural
stuff.
 I shoot mostly BW print, but also use transparencies (usually Fuji Provia
 100). I am fascinated by the potential of pinhole photography and am
looking
 to buy a pre-made camera after seeing the beautiful examples on the
resource
 page. I use mostly all-manual cameras, so getting into pinhole feels
pretty
 natural. I hate the way modern electronics can get in the way of the image
 making process.

 Are there any practical reasons to shoot at 4x5 rather than 8x10?  I
suppose
 it would be easy enough to do both, but I'm wondering about people's
 preferences for architectural and portrait work. The multi-format Zero2000
 looks like a good starter as well given the choice of formats for standard
 roll film.

 I must say I am blown away by the quality and creativeness of the images I
 have seen on the April 28 pinhole day gallery -- really inspiring! One of
 the best photographic events I've ever seen -- simple and powerful.

 Anyway, I'm here to learn and am glad to participate.

 R.J.









RE: [pinhole-discussion] Newbie Intro. and a few questions

2002-08-12 Thread Fox, Robert
George,

Thanks your the links and information -- your images are outstanding. Your
comments about the extra costs of doing 8x10 are definitely a big issue. I
don't think I'll jump into alternative processes to get started, so roll
film should be fine for now. I'm looking forward to a new way of seeing the
world!

R.J.


-Original Message-
From: George L Smyth [mailto:glsm...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 9:43 AM
To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Newbie Intro. and a few questions



--- Fox, Robert r...@aarp.org wrote:
[clip]
 Are there any practical reasons to shoot at 4x5 rather than 8x10?  I
suppose
 it would be easy enough to do both, but I'm wondering about people's
 preferences for architectural and portrait work. The multi-format Zero2000
 looks like a good starter as well given the choice of formats for standard
 roll film.

8X10 film is four times more expensive than 4X5 film (makes sense).  The
bulk
of an 8X10 camera, along with the slide holders, make things much more
difficult to work with.  Then again, if you are going to use an alternative
process to print, then you will probably want a larger negative to work
with. 
I've got some examples at
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/hmpi/Projects/BearSkins/BearSkins.htm if you
would like to take a look.

An alternative to regular 8X10 film is to use halftone film of that size,
which
costs considerably less.  The image Jimmy (found at
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/hmpi/Pinhole/Images/PinholeImages.htm) was
made
with this film.

I would also direct you to the Pinhole FAQ located at
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/hmpi/Pinhole/Articles/FAQ/pin_faq.htm.  There
you
will find enough information to get you going in the right direction.

Cheers -

george

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Newbie Intro. and a few questions

2002-08-12 Thread G.Penate
- Original Message -
From: Fox, Robert r...@aarp.org


 Are there any practical reasons to shoot at 4x5 rather than 8x10?

4x5 is more, well, practical: smaller, less costly to operate, easier to carry
and you don't have to get a second mortage to buy an enlarger (if you wanted
larger than 8x10 prints, and eventually you would), 4x5 enlargers are readily
available.  Also, you could buy an inexpensive real 4x5 camera and use it for
pinhole work, i.e.: grey calumet, super graphic, any of the other graphic press
cameras, etc.

  I suppose it would be easy enough to do both

That's right.   My first 8x10 was a cardboard box.

 but I'm wondering about people's
 preferences for architectural and portrait work. The multi-format Zero2000
 looks like a good starter as well given the choice of formats for standard
 roll film.

You can't go wrong with a Zero2000 they are truly functional pieces of art!

Welcome to the list.

Guillermo






Re: [pinhole-discussion] Newbie Intro. and a few questions

2002-08-12 Thread George L Smyth
--- Fox, Robert r...@aarp.org wrote:
[clip]
 Are there any practical reasons to shoot at 4x5 rather than 8x10?  I suppose
 it would be easy enough to do both, but I'm wondering about people's
 preferences for architectural and portrait work. The multi-format Zero2000
 looks like a good starter as well given the choice of formats for standard
 roll film.

8X10 film is four times more expensive than 4X5 film (makes sense).  The bulk
of an 8X10 camera, along with the slide holders, make things much more
difficult to work with.  Then again, if you are going to use an alternative
process to print, then you will probably want a larger negative to work with. 
I've got some examples at
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/hmpi/Projects/BearSkins/BearSkins.htm if you
would like to take a look.

An alternative to regular 8X10 film is to use halftone film of that size, which
costs considerably less.  The image Jimmy (found at
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/hmpi/Pinhole/Images/PinholeImages.htm) was made
with this film.

I would also direct you to the Pinhole FAQ located at
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/hmpi/Pinhole/Articles/FAQ/pin_faq.htm.  There you
will find enough information to get you going in the right direction.

Cheers -

george

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[pinhole-discussion] newbie question

2002-02-01 Thread Glenn Friedel
Hello all!
I am new to pinholes and I have a question on exposure I was hoping someone
could answer.  I am in the process of making a camera with a .34mm pinhole
and a focal length of 75mm.  I want to use illfochrome paper instead of
negative or film.  I can't figure out my exposure because I don't know what
ASA to rate the paper.  Does anyone have any tips that would help me to
determine my exposure time?
Many thanks in advance...
Glenn



Re: [pinhole-discussion] newbie

2000-12-21 Thread Figurefoto
Matti,
Welcome aboard.If you are a pinhole nut ,like the rest of us,you should feel 
right at home here :)
I look forward to seeing some of your photos.

 Harry 
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[pinhole-discussion] newbie

2000-12-21 Thread Matti J Koskinen
hi all

I joined this list last weekend and been lurking a week, so it's time
to introduce myself.

I've a computer engineer by profession and been photographing since
mid-seventies. Last winter I got interested in pinhole-photography.
Original reason was that I read Ansel Adams' The Camera and made after
that a short search in the Internet about pinhole cameras and found a
lot of ideas and pictures etc. After that I've built several cameras
from tea boxes, cookie tins and 35 mm film cans. I've been using Kodak
Polymax RC II, but it's been snowless winter here in Finland, so cookie
tin cam needs several hours to expose a paper negative, so I mounted a
used disposable camera in one of them and loaded it with APX 400. But
the results are horrible: using an electric tape as shutter is not a
good solution, the cookie tin vibrates too much and the focal length is
too long also. Using just a pinhole in a 35mm SLR body cap works much
much better. Now I've planning to build a 120 film pinhole camera, but
let's see what thats going to be. (and when :-)

Happy holidays to all and excuse some newbie questions:

I have no idea what zone plate means and also how print swap is
organized. I'd be very happy if someone could give me some light
(e.g from a pinhole :-)

best

-matti
mjkos...@sci.fi