Re: [Pkg-games-ubuntu] [Bug 109434] Re: Installing a server for a game automatically auto-inits and runs every boot.

2016-08-23 Thread Rhonda D'Vine 
Hi,

* Franck  [2016-08-23 14:27:46 CEST]:
> On Ubuntu 16.04, I was hit by the unexpected (by me) behaviour of
> wesnoth-server, and noticed it just now (after probably 6 month running
> the server on each boot. My first idea was to go to
> /etc/default/wesntoh, looking for a ENABLE=1, but there is none.

 Of course there is none because that's an approach to the issue that
was rather a strange approach in the first place.

 systemctl disable wesnoth-1.12-server  # would be the proper way

 But: It doesn't get enabled by default in the package, since the 1.8
times, 6 years ago.  See above.


> So I think that:
> - the fact that the server will run on each boot should be much more obvious 
> on installation

 This shouldn't be the case.  I'll have to test that in an 16.04
environment, but as far as I can tell this shouldn't happen.

> - there should be simple way to disable it (something like
/etc/default/wesnoth)

 "systemctl disable wesnoth-1.12-server" is the simple way and works
with every single service.  No strange file that might or might not be
supported or used.

> I support the view that installing a game server is most of the time for
> playing a network game occasionally, and running a permanent game server
> is probably a less frequent use case (which might require explicitly
> enabling the server on boot)

 That's why it was changed six years ago.  :)


> (notice this bug was opened... 8 years ago)

 (notice this "bug" was resolved in wesnoth... 6 years ago)

 Enjoy,
Rhonda
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Title:
  Installing a server for a game automatically auto-inits and runs every
  boot.

Status in tremulous package in Ubuntu:
  Incomplete
Status in wesnoth package in Ubuntu:
  Won't Fix
Status in wesnoth-1.8 package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released

Bug description:
  Binary package hint: tremulous-server

  Summary:  Installing the means to start a server for an entertainment
  game automatically puts it into the /etc/rc* startup sequence, thereby
  potentially opening a large security hole.  This happens with little
  information to the end user, and should be _optional_ or offer a quick
  and easy way to see what is happening with the rc* startup sequences.

  Affects:  tremulous-server, wesnoth-server to mention two.  I suspect
  there are more.

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Re: [Pkg-games-ubuntu] [Bug 109434] Re: Installing a server for a game automatically auto-inits and runs every boot.

2010-03-15 Thread Gerfried Fuchs 
Hi!

* Gabriel M. gabrielmo...@gmail.com [2010-03-15 19:01:17 CET]:
 This bug shouldn't be left to expire. The typical use for wesnothd
 server is to do a lan game, maybe once a week, nobody leaves it to run
 all the time except the few well-known servers hosted on wesnoth.org.

 I'm with you - but I don't like an approach to have wesnothd singled
out like that. This is calling for a bigger fix than just in wesnoth,
see former comments, installing server packages are expected to have
them running, that's part of the policy.

 I don't know if you realize it, but usability for this is currently
 much better on Windows, since it doesn't shove a constantly running
 service down your throat: wesnoth just starts the server as needed and
 then kills it once every participant has disconnected.

 That though is something I just discussed with upstream, and this is
indeed the case. I am reconsider my standing on that grounds and offer a
switch for this, but it will take a bit to come up with a proper
approach. I fear this is too late for lucid to get included.

 Thanks for the additional ping and proper arguments!
Rhonda

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Installing a server for a game automatically auto-inits and runs every boot.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/109434
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Status in “tremulous” package in Ubuntu: Incomplete
Status in “wesnoth” package in Ubuntu: Incomplete

Bug description:
Binary package hint: tremulous-server

Summary:  Installing the means to start a server for an entertainment game 
automatically puts it into the /etc/rc* startup sequence, thereby potentially 
opening a large security hole.  This happens with little information to the end 
user, and should be _optional_ or offer a quick and easy way to see what is 
happening with the rc* startup sequences.

Affects:  tremulous-server, wesnoth-server to mention two.  I suspect there are 
more.



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