Re: [Pkg-kde-extras] [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#875029: [lightdm] Future Qt4 removal from Buster

[Yves-Alexis Perez]

On Fri, 2017-09-15 at 10:22 -0300, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote:
> Ideally they should get removed *before* qt4 itself, but there is no
> need to rush. A good moment to consider asking for their removals is
> whenever we set the bugs' severities to important, which won't happen
> soon. On the other hand, knowing that you already stated that they can
> be removed alongside Qt 4 itself I *will* ask for their removal citing
> your replies whenever we get to remove Qt4. But again, the sooner the
> better, as some other packages might be depending on yours (you won't
> believe the amount of strange things you might find out when removing
> packages...).

When both dependencies are removed I'll stop building the liblightdm binary
packages. Feel free to ping me at that point :)

Regards,
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Re: [Pkg-kde-extras] [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#875029: [lightdm] Future Qt4 removal from Buster

[Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer]

On 15 September 2017 at 06:31, Ralf Jung  wrote:
> Hi,
[snip]
> lightdm-kde upstream seems entirely dead for 4 years now.  I won't do a
> port to Qt5.  So I guess what I should do is ask for lightm-kde to be
> removed from the repository.  Lisandro, can I wait with that until you
> really remove Qt4 or should I rather do this ASAP?

First of all, thanks you all for your replies.

Ideally they should get removed *before* qt4 itself, but there is no
need to rush. A good moment to consider asking for their removals is
whenever we set the bugs' severities to important, which won't happen
soon. On the other hand, knowing that you already stated that they can
be removed alongside Qt 4 itself I *will* ask for their removal citing
your replies whenever we get to remove Qt4. But again, the sooner the
better, as some other packages might be depending on yours (you won't
believe the amount of strange things you might find out when removing
packages...).

Thanks!

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Re: [Pkg-kde-extras] [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#875029: [lightdm] Future Qt4 removal from Buster

[Ralf Jung]

Hi,


>>> Therefore, please take the time and:
>>> - contact your upstream (if existing) and ask about the state of a Qt5
>>> port of your application
>>> - if there are no activities regarding porting, investigate whether there 
>>> are
>>> suitable alternatives for your users
>>> - if there is a Qt5 port that is not yet packaged, consider packaging it
>>> - if both the Qt4 and the Qt5 versions already coexist in the Debian
>>> archives, consider removing the Qt4 version
>>
>> I have to admit I'm not really interested in the Qt lightdm components so I'd
>> be just fine in disabling Qt4 stuff. But some packages like lightdm-kde-
>> greeter and razorqt-lightdm-greeter actually use it, so I guess some
>> coordination will be needed. I'm adding them to the loop.
> 
> Thanks for keeping me in the loop.
> 
> RazorQt it's Qt4 only, the project has merged along with LXDE as LXQt
> (hopefully LXQt is or will be Qt5-ready).
> 
> All components (incl. razorqt-lightdm-greeter) are part of the same
> source package.  So all of it will get removed at the same time, along
> with Qt4 or before.

(lightdm-kde Debian maintainer here)

lightdm-kde upstream seems entirely dead for 4 years now.  I won't do a
port to Qt5.  So I guess what I should do is ask for lightm-kde to be
removed from the repository.  Lisandro, can I wait with that until you
really remove Qt4 or should I rather do this ASAP?

Kind regards,
Ralf

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Re: [Pkg-kde-extras] [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#875029: [lightdm] Future Qt4 removal from Buster

[Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo]

2017-09-14 21:17 GMT+02:00 Yves-Alexis Perez :
> On Sat, 2017-09-09 at 22:10 +0200, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote:
>> In order to make this move, all packages directly or indirectly depending on
>> the Qt4 libraries have to either get ported to Qt5 or eventually get
>> removed from the Debian repositories.
>>
>> Therefore, please take the time and:
>> - contact your upstream (if existing) and ask about the state of a Qt5
>> port of your application
>> - if there are no activities regarding porting, investigate whether there are
>> suitable alternatives for your users
>> - if there is a Qt5 port that is not yet packaged, consider packaging it
>> - if both the Qt4 and the Qt5 versions already coexist in the Debian
>> archives, consider removing the Qt4 version
>
> I have to admit I'm not really interested in the Qt lightdm components so I'd
> be just fine in disabling Qt4 stuff. But some packages like lightdm-kde-
> greeter and razorqt-lightdm-greeter actually use it, so I guess some
> coordination will be needed. I'm adding them to the loop.

Thanks for keeping me in the loop.

RazorQt it's Qt4 only, the project has merged along with LXDE as LXQt
(hopefully LXQt is or will be Qt5-ready).

All components (incl. razorqt-lightdm-greeter) are part of the same
source package.  So all of it will get removed at the same time, along
with Qt4 or before.


Cheers.
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Re: [Pkg-kde-extras] [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#875029: [lightdm] Future Qt4 removal from Buster

[Yves-Alexis Perez]

On Sat, 2017-09-09 at 22:10 +0200, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote:
> In order to make this move, all packages directly or indirectly depending on
> the Qt4 libraries have to either get ported to Qt5 or eventually get
> removed from the Debian repositories.
> 
> Therefore, please take the time and:
> - contact your upstream (if existing) and ask about the state of a Qt5
> port of your application
> - if there are no activities regarding porting, investigate whether there are
> suitable alternatives for your users
> - if there is a Qt5 port that is not yet packaged, consider packaging it
> - if both the Qt4 and the Qt5 versions already coexist in the Debian
> archives, consider removing the Qt4 version

I have to admit I'm not really interested in the Qt lightdm components so I'd
be just fine in disabling Qt4 stuff. But some packages like lightdm-kde-
greeter and razorqt-lightdm-greeter actually use it, so I guess some
coordination will be needed. I'm adding them to the loop.

Regards,
-- 
Yves-Alexis

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