Re: towards KDE 4.5? (mail to -release, filling the needed info)

2010-08-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, August 04, 2010 05:31:22 am Tom Albers wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 12:25:05 +0300, Modestas Vainius 
> 
> wrote:
> >> Finally, it is kdepim. The "official" planning currently says they will
> >> skip 4.5.0 and release with 4.5.1 and well, the changes will be big.
> >> Should we keep 4.4.x anyway?
> > 
> > My vote goes to kdepim 4.4.x stack. kdepim-akonadi will be too fresh and
> > 
> > untested for stable Debian release.
> 
> +1.
> Nowhere near ready for debian stable.

Kubuntu is staying with kdepim 4.4.x for it's next release.  I understand 
Fedora is likely to do this as well.  I think there's roughly a zero percent 
chance of it being ready for a Debian stable release.

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Re: towards KDE 4.5? (mail to -release , filling the needed info)

2010-08-04 Thread Tom Albers

On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 12:25:05 +0300, Modestas Vainius 
wrote:
>> Finally, it is kdepim. The "official" planning currently says they will
>> skip 4.5.0 and release with 4.5.1 and well, the changes will be big.
>> Should we keep 4.4.x anyway?
> 
> My vote goes to kdepim 4.4.x stack. kdepim-akonadi will be too fresh and

> untested for stable Debian release.

+1.
Nowhere near ready for debian stable.
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Re: towards KDE 4.5? (mail to -release, filling the needed info)

2010-08-04 Thread Modestas Vainius
Hello,

On trečiadienis 04 Rugpjūtis 2010 08:57:44 Ana Guerrero wrote:
> Thanks for all your answers so far!
> Now the next step is mailing the release team, I have voluntered with this
> part, but as as you know, I have not been around lately and I need some
> help recollecting information.
> 
> The plan is: shipping into the next stable release with KDE 4.5.x where
> x is hopefully at least >=2 with Qt 4.7.

2 will still be too buggy (it always is). I would estimate 1 at the end of 
August (sooner than 1 month), 2 at the end of September, 3 at the end of 
October. We should stress to RT than KDE point releases won't have any effect 
on the rest of the archive, not even shlibs bump of anything (example 4.4.4 -> 
4.4.5 which went flawlessly). They have nothing to worry about.

> The 4.5.0 release is in 2 days and we are far from having packages ready,
> so as Modestas pointed, we could ship then wherever we have something
> ok for general public at qt-kde.d.n and later upload 4.5.1 directly to the
> archive.
> 4.5.1 is supposed to be released in the 2nd week of September.

As I said above, I expect it to be released way sooner. Quoting dirk:


Unfortunately it seems
that lots of fixes are being backported at the moment, so we have to delay
the rest to an early 4.5.1 release it seems. 


> About KDE 4.5, gkiagia, Modestas: what have you found so far? As I have
> understood it, we should have not problems with the soname bumps/additions/
> removals (if any) out of KDE (SC).

Nop, there will definitely be removals and soname bumps out of KDE SC (some 
workspace libs, libkonq5, kdegraphics libs). A couple of packages will need to 
be binNMUed. That's definitely digikam (maybe new upstream release even), 
kphotoalbum, ktorrent, konq-plugins, kmess, kdiff3, probably a few more.

> Finally, it is kdepim. The "official" planning currently says they will
> skip 4.5.0 and release with 4.5.1 and well, the changes will be big.
> Should we keep 4.4.x anyway?

My vote goes to kdepim 4.4.x stack. kdepim-akonadi will be too fresh and 
untested for stable Debian release.

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