Re: [nepomuk-kde] Plasma activities and Nepomuk

2009-08-11 Thread Leo Sauermann

excellent,

when you guys have built the model for plasma,
be so nice and post a message to the usercontext mailinglist
(usercont...@lists.opendfki.de)

best
Leo

It was Hari krishna Anandhan who said at the right time 11.08.2009 08:31 
the following words:

Hi Leo,

On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 12:02 AM, Leo Sauermannleo.sauerm...@dfki.de wrote:
  

I think you guys still did not check out the links I have posted,
because if you did, you would be talking about UserWorkContextThreads
which are the high-level user activity you are talking about.



Actually I had read them completely! Last time, me and Sebastian Trüg
had agreed that ContextThreads (given in that onto) are more aligned
with tracking NOPs (medium and long term), and are not currently
suited to what we need right now! I am sure we would be using most of
it at later phases when we bring NOPs into the picture, but for now we
have much simpler needs ;)

Cheers,
Hari

  



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Re: [nepomuk-kde] Plasma activities and Nepomuk

2009-08-08 Thread Leo Sauermann

A short reminder:

a completly working implementation with applications on top (such as 
clicked-link history, etc, ...) was done open source complete with 
ontologies and algorithms:


http://usercontext.opendfki.de/
http://lists.opendfki.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/usercontext
http://dev.nepomuk.semanticdesktop.org/wiki/UserWorkContext

I think this thread is currently reinventing this.

best
Leo



It was Ivan Čukić who said at the right time 08.08.2009 11:13 the 
following words:

 be in it anyways, the contextChanged signal would have the new context,
 that would contain not only the activity name but also the type..

I'd rather have a typeForActivity(String activityName) than having the 
parameter type as a part of the signal. (since type is defined by the activity 
name which should be unique)


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Re: [nepomuk-kde] Plasma activities and Nepomuk

2009-08-03 Thread Leo Sauermann
Ho,

this discussion comes up every X months on this list, check out the 
following leads:
* the plasma folks wanted to do it in ?january?, check their mail archives
* Hari Krishna Anandhan started discussing about it in August 2008

Scientifically, the NEPOMUK EU project which did all the research to 
come to the RDF and ontologies also has an off-the-shelf solution for 
the problem which is well thought.
here is the open source reference implementation, ontologies, 
documentation, and community site:
http://usercontext.opendfki.de/
http://lists.opendfki.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/usercontext
http://dev.nepomuk.semanticdesktop.org/wiki/UserWorkContext

Hari pointed to his page in August 2008, which he worked on a bit and 
then had to give up maintaining for 6 months, but THIS WEEK hari wrote 
to me personally, that he is up again and motivated to continue, so you 
guys should stick your heads together (cc Hari)
http://techbase.kde.org/User_talk:Harikrishna

Note though, that the plasma folks have their own thing in their head 
regarding this topic, so maybe I am missing someone important who 
actually does all the decisions, but I am sure she/he will reply.

best
Leo


It was Ivan Čukić who said at the right time 31.07.2009 17:17 the 
following words:
 A.S. This is a multi-list message, so make sure you reply to both 
 plasma-devel 
 and nepomuk-kde lists.

 Hi all,

 As you probably know, plasma has the concept of activities. This is something 
 that is supposed to become global concept, and not only plasma-local.

 Use-cases:
  - When John switches to the /work/ activity, he wants the favourites in 
 Kickoff/KMenu/Lancelot/Raptor/... to be the applications related to work.
  - When Eric switches to the /internet/ activity, he wants the file open/save 
 dialogue to contain 'Downloads', 'Pictures' etc. folders in the places side-
 panel.
  - Terry starts KDevelop to work on his project. The rest of the environment 
 switches to /kde development/ activity.

 Ok, enough with examples.

 Since the current activity is not only a plasma-thing, and could exist even 
 without plasma, we (plasma devs) decided it should be published through 
 nepomuk.

 My question here is what is the best way to do it.

 The most basic thing that comes to mind is a nepomuk resource, which the 
 other 
 application listen to using the sopranoStatementAdded() signal in 
 SopranoModel.

 The other approach (DanielW pointed it out) is something like the nepomuk 
 service example located in playground (/base/nepomuk-kde/usercontext/service/)

 So, what is the best way to do this?

 Cheerio,
 Ivan
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