Re: [Framework-Team] pypi ticket for adding Plone 5.0 to trove tags

2014-04-16 Thread Maurits van Rees

Giacomo Spettoli schreef op 15-04-14 15:32:


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On 04/15/2014 12:50 PM, Johannes Raggam wrote:
 I just opened a ticket on the pypi issue tracker to add
 Framework :: Plone :: 5.0 to the trove tags.

 https://sourceforge.net/p/pypi/support-requests/366/

 Looks like, Plone is the only project, which has version-specific trove
 tags. https://pypi.python.org/pypi?%3Aaction=list_classifiers

 Should we give up these version specific tags?

IMHO no one would really trust the classifiers list for knowing the 
plugin's compatibility. I normally take a look at the README (when I'm 
lucky) and to the code (when I'm not lucky).


When I am working on a package in the collective and wonder what it is 
supposed to be compatible with, I do look at the classifiers, so that I 
know with which Plone versions I should be testing any changes that I 
make. I like that.
Of course they can be out of date, just like a remark in the readme can 
be out of date.


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Re: [Framework-Team] pypi ticket for adding Plone 5.0 to trove tags

2014-04-16 Thread Johannes Raggam
I'm a bit undecided on that topic.
On the one hand, it would be super-handy to consistently use these
classifiers. Although, the process of getting them into the PyPi list is
a bit tedious.
On the other hand, I don't like to be Plone the project, which spams the
list of trove classifiers with version specific ones. We already have 7,
while every other Framework just has one.

FYI, the issue on sourceforge was rejected:

http://sourceforge.net/p/pypi/support-requests/366/

Sorry, we only add classifiers that would be in active use. Please
ask again when you have a number of Plone 5.0 related packages which
would have that classifier.




On Wed, 2014-04-16 at 11:01 +0200, Maurits van Rees wrote:
 Giacomo Spettoli schreef op 15-04-14 15:32:
 
  
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  On 04/15/2014 12:50 PM, Johannes Raggam wrote:
   I just opened a ticket on the pypi issue tracker to add
   Framework :: Plone :: 5.0 to the trove tags.
  
   https://sourceforge.net/p/pypi/support-requests/366/
  
   Looks like, Plone is the only project, which has version-specific
  trove
   tags. https://pypi.python.org/pypi?%3Aaction=list_classifiers
  
   Should we give up these version specific tags?
  
  IMHO no one would really trust the classifiers list for knowing the
  plugin's compatibility. I normally take a look at the README (when
  I'm lucky) and to the code (when I'm not lucky).
 
 When I am working on a package in the collective and wonder what it is
 supposed to be compatible with, I do look at the classifiers, so that
 I know with which Plone versions I should be testing any changes that
 I make. I like that.
 Of course they can be out of date, just like a remark in the readme
 can be out of date.
 
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Re: [Framework-Team] pypi ticket for adding Plone 5.0 to trove tags

2014-04-15 Thread Giacomo Spettoli

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On 04/15/2014 12:50 PM, Johannes Raggam wrote:
 I just opened a ticket on the pypi issue tracker to add
 Framework :: Plone :: 5.0 to the trove tags.

 https://sourceforge.net/p/pypi/support-requests/366/

 Looks like, Plone is the only project, which has version-specific trove
 tags. https://pypi.python.org/pypi?%3Aaction=list_classifiers

 Should we give up these version specific tags?

IMHO no one would really trust the classifiers list for knowing the
plugin's compatibility. I normally take a look at the README (when I'm
lucky) and to the code (when I'm not lucky).

I agree that maybe the versioning doesn't make much sense and, in the
best of all the possible universes, it would be better to move the
current classifiers to something more linked to the purpose of the
package that you're publishing.
For example:

Framework :: Plone :: Theme
Framework :: Plone :: Plugin

But, truth be told, I don't know how much work would this take and if
this is doable by the Plone community or it has to be done by the pypi
maintainers.

I asked to some colleague of mine and, even though everybody uses them
in the packages, no one ever really used those classifiers for searching
packages or whatever.

So.././much effort for a low gain

My 2c

Giacomo



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