Re: [PLUG] Lost digital mode on video card
So any suggestions? Do a full power cycle, not just reset/reboot to see if something in the hardware got wedged. Doesn't solve the hardware/driver issue but it's all I got. NealS ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Slackware upgrade trouble...
I'm trying to upgrade Slackware 10.1 to Slackware 13. So far, I have determined that upgrading to Slackware 11's glibc is necessary. Maybe now xz will work? I'm getting an error that external command xz cannot be found even though I can see it under /bin and /usr/bin no problem. How do I get pkgtool which I have upgraded to the Slackware 13 version to see it? I have also upgraded tar, had to downgrade it first. I'm trying to follow UPGRADE.txt and I'm stuck trying to install findutils. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Slackware upgrade trouble...
On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 16:37 -0700, drew wymore wrote: On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Michael C. Robinson plu...@robinson-west.com wrote: I'm trying to upgrade Slackware 10.1 to Slackware 13. So far, I have determined that upgrading to Slackware 11's glibc is necessary. Maybe now xz will work? I'm getting an error that external command xz cannot be found even though I can see it under /bin and /usr/bin no problem. How do I get pkgtool which I have upgraded to the Slackware 13 version to see it? I have also upgraded tar, had to downgrade it first. I'm trying to follow UPGRADE.txt and I'm stuck trying to install findutils. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug You absolutely can't upgrade from 10.1 to 13 directly. You've got to step from like 10.1 - 11.1 to 12 - 13 Pat moved the package format from tgz to xz as it's a far better compression format, in fact I believe Fedora is using it some capacity too. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug Is it just glibc that needs to be upgraded 10.1 to 11.0 to 12.0 to 12.2 to 13? I hate to have to download the whole Slackware 11, 12, and 12.2 distributions. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Slackware upgrade trouble...
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Michael C. Robinson plu...@robinson-west.com wrote: On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 16:37 -0700, drew wymore wrote: On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Michael C. Robinson plu...@robinson-west.com wrote: I'm trying to upgrade Slackware 10.1 to Slackware 13. So far, I have determined that upgrading to Slackware 11's glibc is necessary. Maybe now xz will work? I'm getting an error that external command xz cannot be found even though I can see it under /bin and /usr/bin no problem. How do I get pkgtool which I have upgraded to the Slackware 13 version to see it? I have also upgraded tar, had to downgrade it first. I'm trying to follow UPGRADE.txt and I'm stuck trying to install findutils. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug You absolutely can't upgrade from 10.1 to 13 directly. You've got to step from like 10.1 - 11.1 to 12 - 13 Pat moved the package format from tgz to xz as it's a far better compression format, in fact I believe Fedora is using it some capacity too. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug Is it just glibc that needs to be upgraded 10.1 to 11.0 to 12.0 to 12.2 to 13? I hate to have to download the whole Slackware 11, 12, and 12.2 distributions. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug You're gonna have to do a full package upgrade. glibc, the utils and pkgtool itself since there was the compression arch change. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Slackware upgrade trouble...
Hello, Though I haven't been on the Slak train in a while, I will say from experience with other distros, doing upgrades can be bumpy, and doing one from such distant versions can result in lots of hair-pulling. Best results are usually from saving your personal data and installing fresh. This prevents any issues similar to what you describe. A good way to do this is to have /home on a separate partition. This way you save everything you want to keep in your /home directory, and you just reformat / (and any other partitions you have). You can backup your configurations in /etc and other places temporarily in /home (I usually do that with tar.gz files). HTH -- Matt M. LinuxKnight On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Michael C. Robinson plu...@robinson-west.com wrote: I'm trying to upgrade Slackware 10.1 to Slackware 13. So far, I have determined that upgrading to Slackware 11's glibc is necessary. Maybe now xz will work? I'm getting an error that external command xz cannot be found even though I can see it under /bin and /usr/bin no problem. How do I get pkgtool which I have upgraded to the Slackware 13 version to see it? I have also upgraded tar, had to downgrade it first. I'm trying to follow UPGRADE.txt and I'm stuck trying to install findutils. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Slackware upgrade trouble...
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Matt McKenzie lnxkni...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Though I haven't been on the Slak train in a while, I will say from experience with other distros, doing upgrades can be bumpy, and doing one from such distant versions can result in lots of hair-pulling. Best results are usually from saving your personal data and installing fresh. This prevents any issues similar to what you describe. A good way to do this is to have /home on a separate partition. This way you save everything you want to keep in your /home directory, and you just reformat / (and any other partitions you have). You can backup your configurations in /etc and other places temporarily in /home (I usually do that with tar.gz files). HTH -- Matt M. LinuxKnight On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Michael C. Robinson plu...@robinson-west.com wrote: I'm trying to upgrade Slackware 10.1 to Slackware 13. So far, I have determined that upgrading to Slackware 11's glibc is necessary. Maybe now xz will work? I'm getting an error that external command xz cannot be found even though I can see it under /bin and /usr/bin no problem. How do I get pkgtool which I have upgraded to the Slackware 13 version to see it? I have also upgraded tar, had to downgrade it first. I'm trying to follow UPGRADE.txt and I'm stuck trying to install findutils. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug Michael - It will take me some time but I have the ISOs going all the way back to 10.1 and I can setup a virtual machine and figure out the magic needed to get you up to 13. In my experience though you really can't jump more than one major revsion. So if you're at 10.1 go to 11.1 then 12.2 and then 13 .. should be doable. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Linux Clinic Sunday August 15 1PM Free Geek
It may be 93 Farenheit on the coming third Sunday, and Free Geek has something approximating air conditioning. Bring your overheated Linux machine, and its overheated owner, to 1731 Southeast 10th Avenue Portland. We will help you install cool new distros, chillin' new apps, or new window managers such as icewm on your Linux machine. We have keyboards, mice, displays, power, wired and wireless internet. So come on over and hang with Tux the Penguin and his pals, and really frost the software monopolists! Keith -- Keith Lofstrom kei...@keithl.com Voice (503)-520-1993 KLIC --- Keith Lofstrom Integrated Circuits --- Your Ideas in Silicon Design Contracting in Bipolar and CMOS - Analog, Digital, and Scan ICs ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] [PLUG-ANNOUNCE] Linux Clinic Sunday August 15 1PM Free Geek
Hey Keith You are really a Linux Evangelist, aren't you? Take care... Gil Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 20:18:27 -0700 From: kei...@kl-ic.com To: plug-annou...@lists.pdxlinux.org Subject: [PLUG-ANNOUNCE] Linux Clinic Sunday August 15 1PM Free Geek It may be 93 Farenheit on the coming third Sunday, and Free Geek has something approximating air conditioning. Bring your overheated Linux machine, and its overheated owner, to 1731 Southeast 10th Avenue Portland. We will help you install cool new distros, chillin' new apps, or new window managers such as icewm on your Linux machine. We have keyboards, mice, displays, power, wired and wireless internet. So come on over and hang with Tux the Penguin and his pals, and really frost the software monopolists! Keith -- Keith Lofstrom kei...@keithl.com Voice (503)-520-1993 KLIC --- Keith Lofstrom Integrated Circuits --- Your Ideas in Silicon Design Contracting in Bipolar and CMOS - Analog, Digital, and Scan ICs ___ PLUG-announce mailing list plug-annou...@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Slackware upgrade trouble...
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Michael C. Robinson plu...@robinson-west.com wrote: I'm trying to upgrade Slackware 10.1 to Slackware 13. So far, I have determined that upgrading to Slackware 11's glibc is necessary. Maybe now xz will work? I'm getting an error that external command xz cannot be found even though I can see it under /bin and /usr/bin no problem. How do I get pkgtool which I have upgraded to the Slackware 13 version to see it? I have also upgraded tar, had to downgrade it first. I'm trying to follow UPGRADE.txt and I'm stuck trying to install findutils. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug Welcome to Linux, and an unstable ABI between versions ;) For example, Solaris has binary compatibility from Solaris 2.3 to 9.0, no such luck with Linux. I suggest you upgrade in steps as recommended by the release notes, major upgrades are rarely supported in big jumps like you're attempting. -- Brent Jones br...@servuhome.net ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Solaris - Was: Slackware upgrade trouble...
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:42 PM, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.net wrote: On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 21:57:25 -0700 Brent Jones br...@servuhome.net dijo: Welcome to Linux, and an unstable ABI between versions ;) For example, Solaris has binary compatibility from Solaris 2.3 to 9.0, no such luck with Linux. How much does Solaris cost? ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug Nothing ;-) Oracle releases an official version and there is the OpenSolaris project although that seems doomed if I am to believe what I've read. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
