Re: [PLUG] cloning old drive

[Denis Heidtmann]

I have asked at Free Geek some weeks ago--they just snickered.  They do not
keep anything that old.

I have just received a bunch of old drives between 2 and 4 G.  If they do
not work, I will take you up on your offer to search your bone pile.  That
comment about Compaq does not sound good--if true it could really stand in
the way of our efforts.

-Denis

On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 7:48 PM, Neal  wrote:

> I don't know if it handles win3.x or not but Macrium Reflect has never let
> me down. There's a free version for home use available online, or at least
> there was when I cloned the HD on my laptop to an SSD a month ago.
>
> I was going to use CloneZilla but it was way too, uh, flexible for my
> attention span that day.
>
> You will no doubt have to play around with the CHT parameters to get a
> drive different from the original 1GB to boot. Seems I recall some Compaqs
> requiring a system utilities floppy to modify some/most/all BIOS settings.
>
> I might have an old 1GB drive hiding somewhere in the deep recesses of the
> computer dung^H^H^H^Hroom if you can't get there with a bigger drvie.
> Alternately and probably quicker, does FreeGeek keep anything that small
> around, or send them right to the shredder?
>
> Regards,
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Re: [PLUG] cloning old drive

[Neal]

I don't know if it handles win3.x or not but Macrium Reflect has never let
me down. There's a free version for home use available online, or at least
there was when I cloned the HD on my laptop to an SSD a month ago.

I was going to use CloneZilla but it was way too, uh, flexible for my
attention span that day.

You will no doubt have to play around with the CHT parameters to get a
drive different from the original 1GB to boot. Seems I recall some Compaqs
requiring a system utilities floppy to modify some/most/all BIOS settings.

I might have an old 1GB drive hiding somewhere in the deep recesses of the
computer dung^H^H^H^Hroom if you can't get there with a bigger drvie.
Alternately and probably quicker, does FreeGeek keep anything that small
around, or send them right to the shredder?

Regards,
NealS
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[PLUG] Cascadia IT Conference

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Good morning,

I have a special discount for Portland Linux Group, sponsored by LOPSA.

When you register for CasITConf, at https://casitconf.org/, select the  
LOPSA Discount registration and use the code  
LOPSA-CasITConf16.

Are you looking to increase your system or network administration skills?  
Would you like to get some professional development training from the  
leaders in the field? If so, please check out Cascadia IT Conference  
(http://casitconf.org) happening on March 11th and 12th in Seattle, WA for  
some incredible training opportunities including classes such as:

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Administrators, and The Practice of System and Network  
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as a top instructor at Interop many times since 1997.

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Check out http://casitconf.org/casitconf16/schedule/ for a full schedule of  
classes and talks by industry leaders and writers. The deadline for early  
bird discounts is Feb 28th so sign up today at  
http://casitconf.org/casitconf16/register-now/ for some of the best IT  
training and professional development in the Pacific Northwest.

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Re: [PLUG] Docker done right

[Louis Kowolowski]

On Mar 2, 2016, at 11:54 AM, Michael Dexter  wrote:
> 
> On 3/2/16 10:11 AM, Louis Kowolowski wrote:
>> Michael, nice writeup!
>> 
>> https://www.ixsystems.com/whats-new/2015/07/22/docker-done-right/
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> I hear it hit LinkedIn but then I hear the port may need some love.
> 
> Going to give it a try before bhyvecon.
> 
It did get to linkedin. I also saw that comment. I haven’t had a chance to play 
with it yet, but at the very least, its promising. Doesn’t depend on a single 
process to run all the jails either ;-)

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Re: [PLUG] Docker done right

[Michael Dexter]

On 3/2/16 10:11 AM, Louis Kowolowski wrote:
> Michael, nice writeup!
>
> https://www.ixsystems.com/whats-new/2015/07/22/docker-done-right/

Thanks!

I hear it hit LinkedIn but then I hear the port may need some love.

Going to give it a try before bhyvecon.

Michael

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[PLUG] Docker done right

[Louis Kowolowski]

Michael, nice writeup!

https://www.ixsystems.com/whats-new/2015/07/22/docker-done-right/

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[PLUG] March PLUG Advanced Topics: INFORMAL Meeting at the Lucky Lab

[Michael Dexter]

Hello all,

I will not be able to attend the March PLUG Advanced Topics meeting and 
no one has come forward with an alternative plan and keyholder.

I suggest people meet informally at the Lucky Lab on Hawthorne or simply 
hack on something presentation-worthy at home.

All the best,

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[PLUG-ANNOUNCE] March PLUG Advanced Topics: INFORMAL Meeting at the Lucky Lab

[Michael Dexter]

Hello all,

I will not be able to attend the March PLUG Advanced Topics meeting and 
no one has come forward with an alternative plan and keyholder.

I suggest people meet informally at the Lucky Lab on Hawthorne or simply 
hack on something presentation-worthy at home.

All the best,

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[PLUG-ANNOUNCE] THURSDAY: March PLUG Meeting: Networking with Puppet and Cumulus

[Michael Dexter]

Portland Linux/Unix Group General Meeting Announcement

Who: Kris Amundson
What: Networking with Puppet and Cumulus
Where: PSU, 1930 SW 4th Ave. Room FAB 86-01 (Lower Level)
When: Thursday, March 3rd, 2016 at 7pm
Why: The pursuit of technology freedom
Stream: http://pdxlinux.org/live (PSU WiFi Permitting)

Network Switches. This phrase conjures up thoughts of expensive boxes 
with operating systems out of reach to the user. While CLIs have 
improved, there are times where you really want a bash prompt to install 
a cron script or two, or run a packet capture through some python.

That day is here. We now have a few Linux based NOS distributions with a 
standard linux-server experience with many ports of line-rate ethernet 
interfaces. We will be exploring Cumulus Linux, a Debian-based NOS that 
has a growing list of hardware support.

This session will be an introduction to Cumulus and some puppet code on 
how to configure them. I'll have some hardware in tow and also discuss 
the virtual image.

About Kris

Kris Amundson is part of the Ops team at Puppet Labs here in Portland. 
He has been building networks since the mid 90s and his career travels 
include working for Cisco VARs, operating PSU's campus network, 
co-founding OpenSourcery, building networks atop wind turbines and 
running the network for 21 months at the South Pole Antarctica.

Calagator Page: http://calagator.org/events/1250469566

Many will head to the Lucky Lab at 1945 NW Quimby St. after the meeting.

Rideshares Available

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[PLUG] THURSDAY: March PLUG Meeting: Networking with Puppet and Cumulus

[Michael Dexter]

Portland Linux/Unix Group General Meeting Announcement

Who: Kris Amundson
What: Networking with Puppet and Cumulus
Where: PSU, 1930 SW 4th Ave. Room FAB 86-01 (Lower Level)
When: Thursday, March 3rd, 2016 at 7pm
Why: The pursuit of technology freedom
Stream: http://pdxlinux.org/live (PSU WiFi Permitting)

Network Switches. This phrase conjures up thoughts of expensive boxes 
with operating systems out of reach to the user. While CLIs have 
improved, there are times where you really want a bash prompt to install 
a cron script or two, or run a packet capture through some python.

That day is here. We now have a few Linux based NOS distributions with a 
standard linux-server experience with many ports of line-rate ethernet 
interfaces. We will be exploring Cumulus Linux, a Debian-based NOS that 
has a growing list of hardware support.

This session will be an introduction to Cumulus and some puppet code on 
how to configure them. I'll have some hardware in tow and also discuss 
the virtual image.

About Kris

Kris Amundson is part of the Ops team at Puppet Labs here in Portland. 
He has been building networks since the mid 90s and his career travels 
include working for Cisco VARs, operating PSU's campus network, 
co-founding OpenSourcery, building networks atop wind turbines and 
running the network for 21 months at the South Pole Antarctica.

Calagator Page: http://calagator.org/events/1250469566

Many will head to the Lucky Lab at 1945 NW Quimby St. after the meeting.

Rideshares Available

PLUG Page with information about all PLUG events: http://pdxlinux.org/
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See you there!

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Re: [PLUG] Conservancy plea deadline!

[Michael Dexter]

On 2/29/16 7:20 PM, wes wrote:
> donated $120. I hope it gets matched.

If on the 29th, YES and they made their quota for the deadline!

Thanks!

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Re: [PLUG] cloning old drive

[Robert Citek]

On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 8:42 PM, Denis Heidtmann
 wrote:
> Anybody here have suggestions?  What cloning SW is suggested?

Windows 3.1, Compaq, 1GB hard drive.   I am going to guess that this
is a 90's-era system (i.e. about 20 years old).  So, that drive
probably uses an IDE connector and the CPU is probably a 486 or
earlier Pentium.  It's a small miracle that the system is still
running.

But that's just a guess.  Can you provide us with a bit more detail
about the hardware?  For example, does it have a CD ROM drive?  What
model Compaq is it?

While you may not know what software was used to clone the drive, how
was the clone performed?  For example, did you boot from a CD or
remove the drive or something else?

My inclination would be to remove the drive, connect it to a USB/IDE
adapter, image it using dd on a linux laptop, and run the image within
VirtualBox to verify that the imaging worked[1].

Good luck and let us know how things turn out.

[1] http://www.agix.com.au/use-a-dd-image-as-a-disk-for-a-virtualbox-guest/

Regards,
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Re: [PLUG] cloning old drive

[Denis Heidtmann]

Thanks for all the replies.  It will take a few days--the machine is not
with me--,then I will give some of these suggestions a try.

-Denis

On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 6:19 AM, Josiah Luscher  wrote:

> I've had very good experiences with Redo ( http://redobackup.org ).
>
> Having said that I've had all sorts of problems (not related to redo)
> getting partitioning tables to match exactly and 4k sector alignment, etc...
>
> I'm guessing your going to have to get down and dirty with fdisk /
> gparted.  Can you post the output of fdisk for each drive?
>
> On March 1, 2016 8:42:22 PM PST, Denis Heidtmann <
> denis.heidtm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >I am working with an old computer with custom hardware and SW than
> >cannot
> >be regenerated.  We want to clone the HD so that if the existing one
> >fails
> >we have a chance of being able to continue using the system.  The HD is
> >1G;
> >the OS is Windows 3.1; the computer is a compaq.
> >
> >A clone was attempted to a 20G HD, but it will not boot (I forgot the
> >error
> >message, but it finally said not a system disk.)  And at this point I
> >do
> >not know what SW was used to do the cloning.
> >
> >My first guess is that the BIOS cannot  handle the drive, even though
> >the
> >cloning leaves only 1G available.  Is this a likely explanation?  My
> >second
> >guess is that perhaps Compaq did something non-standard to prevent
> >drives
> >other than theirs from being used.  (They would not be the first nor
> >the
> >last company to be SOBs.)
> >
> >I have searched for ideas, but the answers are so varied that I do not
> >know
> >which ones to trust.
> >
> >Anybody here have suggestions?  What cloning SW is suggested?
> >
> >(If this question is unacceptable for a Linux group, I can move it to
> >Talk.)
> >
> >-Thanks,
> >-Denis
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Re: [PLUG] cloning old drive

[Josiah Luscher]

I've had very good experiences with Redo ( http://redobackup.org ).  

Having said that I've had all sorts of problems (not related to redo) getting 
partitioning tables to match exactly and 4k sector alignment, etc...

I'm guessing your going to have to get down and dirty with fdisk / gparted.  
Can you post the output of fdisk for each drive?

On March 1, 2016 8:42:22 PM PST, Denis Heidtmann  
wrote:
>I am working with an old computer with custom hardware and SW than
>cannot
>be regenerated.  We want to clone the HD so that if the existing one
>fails
>we have a chance of being able to continue using the system.  The HD is
>1G;
>the OS is Windows 3.1; the computer is a compaq.
>
>A clone was attempted to a 20G HD, but it will not boot (I forgot the
>error
>message, but it finally said not a system disk.)  And at this point I
>do
>not know what SW was used to do the cloning.
>
>My first guess is that the BIOS cannot  handle the drive, even though
>the
>cloning leaves only 1G available.  Is this a likely explanation?  My
>second
>guess is that perhaps Compaq did something non-standard to prevent
>drives
>other than theirs from being used.  (They would not be the first nor
>the
>last company to be SOBs.)
>
>I have searched for ideas, but the answers are so varied that I do not
>know
>which ones to trust.
>
>Anybody here have suggestions?  What cloning SW is suggested?
>
>(If this question is unacceptable for a Linux group, I can move it to
>Talk.)
>
>-Thanks,
>-Denis
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