Re: [PLUG] ANNOUNCEMENT: Portland Linux/Unix Group Celebrates 30 years at this month's General Meeting!

2024-03-29 Thread Russell Senior




On 3/29/24 19:55, Russell Senior wrote:

What: 30th Anniversary Meeting
Where: 5500 SW Dosch Rd, Portland
When: Thursday, April 4, 2024 at 7 PM
Why: The pursuit of technology freedom

The Portland Linux/Unix Group has been meeting since 30 years ago this 
month.
Please join us for a celebratory gathering to recognize our continuing 
longevity.
It isn't possible to say right now who the speaker will be, but we'll 
work something
out. More important than who is speaking is getting together to 
recognize the
community of helpers that we are. Whether you are an old timer, there 
at the beginning,
or someone who used to attend but haven't in a while, or someone who 
just started
attending recently, or someone who has never attended before, we 
welcome you and

hope that you can join us!



I feel like there should be cake. I wonder if there are any volunteers 
that can help make that happen?



--
Russell Senior
PLUG Volunteer
russ...@pdxlinux.org


[PLUG-ANNOUNCE] ANNOUNCEMENT: Portland Linux/Unix Group Celebrates 30 years at this month's General Meeting!

2024-03-29 Thread Russell Senior

What: 30th Anniversary Meeting
Where: 5500 SW Dosch Rd, Portland
When: Thursday, April 4, 2024 at 7 PM
Why: The pursuit of technology freedom

The Portland Linux/Unix Group has been meeting since 30 years ago this month.
Please join us for a celebratory gathering to recognize our continuing 
longevity.
It isn't possible to say right now who the speaker will be, but we'll work 
something
out. More important than who is speaking is getting together to recognize the
community of helpers that we are. Whether you are an old timer, there at the 
beginning,
or someone who used to attend but haven't in a while, or someone who just 
started
attending recently, or someone who has never attended before, we welcome you and
hope that you can join us!


Rules and Requests:

Masks are encouraged but not required.

PLUG is open to everyone and does not tolerate abusive behavior on its mailing 
lists or at its meetings

--
Russell Senior
PLUG Volunteer
russ...@pdxlinux.org
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[PLUG] ANNOUNCEMENT: Portland Linux/Unix Group Celebrates 30 years at this month's General Meeting!

2024-03-29 Thread Russell Senior

What: 30th Anniversary Meeting
Where: 5500 SW Dosch Rd, Portland
When: Thursday, April 4, 2024 at 7 PM
Why: The pursuit of technology freedom

The Portland Linux/Unix Group has been meeting since 30 years ago this month.
Please join us for a celebratory gathering to recognize our continuing 
longevity.
It isn't possible to say right now who the speaker will be, but we'll work 
something
out. More important than who is speaking is getting together to recognize the
community of helpers that we are. Whether you are an old timer, there at the 
beginning,
or someone who used to attend but haven't in a while, or someone who just 
started
attending recently, or someone who has never attended before, we welcome you and
hope that you can join us!


Rules and Requests:

Masks are encouraged but not required.

PLUG is open to everyone and does not tolerate abusive behavior on its mailing 
lists or at its meetings

--
Russell Senior
PLUG Volunteer
russ...@pdxlinux.org


Re: [PLUG] Deleting directory in $HOME

2024-03-29 Thread Rich Shepard

On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, David Bridges wrote:


I do not use xfce but more than likely it is using xdg-user* stuff

Take a look in ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs

I modified the values to be what I wanted a long time ago on my system
because I the directories listed in that file were recreated after I
deleted them.


David,

Thank you. I had no idea that user-dir.dirs existed. Sure enough, all the
default Slackware installation directories in $HOME are there. I commented
out all of them.

Much appreciated lesson,

Rich


Re: [PLUG] Deleting directory in $HOME

2024-03-29 Thread Rich Shepard

On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, King Beowulf wrote:


Anything Xfce and X.org creates in $HOME as a default will just get
recreated if you remove/delete.  Just because YOU don't sue a config
does not mean the DE (Xfce or X) does not use it.


Ed,

The Desktop directory is not a configuration file; it's a user directory.


If you insist:
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/206594/why-cant-i-delete-this-file-as-root


Interesting. On the laptop ~/Desktop has only one attribute: e. That's not
shown in the man page and it's neither i or a. Perhaps removing the e
(whatever that is -- I'll look for an explanation) will help.

Thanks,

Rich


Re: [PLUG] Loading ~/.Xmodmap on laptop [FIXED]

2024-03-29 Thread Rich Shepard

On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, King Beowulf wrote:


That doesn't look right for Slackware.  Use the default one for 15.0.

1. exit Xfce
2. make sure logged as your normal user, no GUI or X running, and not as
root
3. run "xwmconfig"
4. choose any OTHER desktop, hit OK
5. run "xwmconfig" again, choose Xfce, Ok


Ed,

Ah. my bad. I hadn't considered that xwmconfig changes with the versions. Of
course, it's been a long time since I upgraded to 14.2 and I've forgotten a
lot of details.


to start X and Xfce you simply
$ startx
 DO NOT RUN startxfce4 DIRECTLY!!! 


I don't. startx is an alias in ~/.bash_profile.


Make sure that the new X and Xfce stuff from 15.0 is installed in /etc
and you did NOT copy ANY old settings from 14.2.


Nope. All 15.0.

Much thanks,

Rich


Re: [PLUG] Deleting directory in $HOME

2024-03-29 Thread King Beowulf
On 3/29/24 09:17, Rich Shepard wrote:
> Xfce4 adds a few Capitalized directories in a user's ~/ when it's installed.
> I've never used them and had no problems deleting them until now: the
> Desktop directory (755 perms) will not be removed either by me or by root.
> It has 2 hardlinks: the current and parent directories.
>
> The xfce mail list is very quiet; no posts since I rejoined yesterday. My
> web searches haven't found a reason why a directory owned by me and in the
> users group cannot be removed.
>
> A clue stick will be appreciated.
>
> TIA,
>
> Rich
Rich,

Anything Xfce and X.org creates in $HOME as a default will just get 
recreated if you remove/delete.  Just because YOU don't sue a config 
does not mean the DE (Xfce or X) does not use it.

If you insist:

https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/206594/why-cant-i-delete-this-file-as-root






Re: [PLUG] Loading ~/.Xmodmap on laptop

2024-03-29 Thread King Beowulf
On 3/29/24 07:28, Rich Shepard wrote:
> This has been an issue with me on all laptops I've owned: despite ~/.xinitrc
> containing:
>
> #!/bin/sh
> # $XConsortium: xinitrc.cpp,v 1.4 91/08/22 11:41:34 rws Exp $
>
> usermodmap=$HOME/.Xmodmap
> /usr/bin/xmodmap $HOME/.Xmodmap
> userresources=$HOME/.Xresources
> sysmodmap=$HOME/.Xmodmap
>
> #if [ -f $userresources ]; then
> #xrdb -merge $userresources
> #fi
>
> virtual consoles do not load it when I startxfce4 and open v.t.s.
>
> What am I missing?
>
> TIA,
>
> Rich


Rich,

That doesn't look right for Slackware.  Use the default one for 15.0.

1. exit Xfce
2. make sure logged as your normal user, no GUI or X running, and not as 
root
3. run "xwmconfig"
4. choose any OTHER desktop, hit OK
5. run "xwmconfig" again, choose Xfce, Ok

This will copy the correct startup script from 
/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.xfceto ~/.xinitrc.  Don't monkey with it or use 
an old one from 14.2.

to start X and Xfce you simply

$ startx

 DO NOT RUN startxfce4 DIRECTLY!!! 

Make sure that the new X and Xfce stuff from 15.0 is installed in /etc 
and you did NOT copy ANY old settings from 14.2.

Have fun!

-Ed





[PLUG] Deleting directory in $HOME

2024-03-29 Thread Rich Shepard

Xfce4 adds a few Capitalized directories in a user's ~/ when it's installed.
I've never used them and had no problems deleting them until now: the
Desktop directory (755 perms) will not be removed either by me or by root.
It has 2 hardlinks: the current and parent directories.

The xfce mail list is very quiet; no posts since I rejoined yesterday. My
web searches haven't found a reason why a directory owned by me and in the
users group cannot be removed.

A clue stick will be appreciated.

TIA,

Rich


[PLUG] Loading ~/.Xmodmap on laptop

2024-03-29 Thread Rich Shepard

This has been an issue with me on all laptops I've owned: despite ~/.xinitrc
containing:

#!/bin/sh
# $XConsortium: xinitrc.cpp,v 1.4 91/08/22 11:41:34 rws Exp $

usermodmap=$HOME/.Xmodmap
/usr/bin/xmodmap $HOME/.Xmodmap
userresources=$HOME/.Xresources
sysmodmap=$HOME/.Xmodmap

#if [ -f $userresources ]; then
#xrdb -merge $userresources
#fi

virtual consoles do not load it when I startxfce4 and open v.t.s.

What am I missing?

TIA,

Rich