[PLUG] attack on sshd via xz
I'm surprised to see that no one has mentioned this on PLUG yet, though it's been flying around the rest of the tech sphere on the internet pretty heavily over the last week. I will share it here in case any list member hasn't seen it yet elsewhere and if anyone is interested in this subject. The short version is, someone (potentially many someones) attempted to insert malicious code into the Linux pipeline which would have resulted in them being able to log in to any system running that code without authorization. The attempt was caught before it reached any major level of distribution and stopped, but the fact that it even got that far is alarming. Here is a NYT article covering the sequence of events in a pretty approachable way: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/03/technology/prevent-cyberattack-linux.html And for those who do not feel motivated to create an account on the NYT website: https://archive.ph/tc9bN Keith's email is broken, so he asked me to pass this along to the list. -wes
Re: [PLUG] gawk: a pattern that separates two similar strings
On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 10:47 AM Rich Shepard
wrote:
> I've downloaded a data file where the permit type can be Active, Inactive,
> or Draft.
>
> Removing all Draft records was easy. Removing all Inactive records has so
> far escaped my gawk (and LO Calc) efforts because Inactive contains the
> substring 'active'.
>
> My script:
> BEGIN { FS = OFS = "," }
>NR ~ /1/ { print $0 }
>$4 == "Inactive" { next }
>$4 == "Active" { print $0 }
>
> I've also tried with matching:
>$4 ~ /Inactive/ { next }
>$4 ~ /Active/ { print $0 }
>
> And, of course, specifying only field 4 containing Active also fails.
>
> My AWK books and web searches haven't taught me how to write a pattern that
> matches only 'active' and not 'inactive.'
>
> Would the substr() function do the job? E.g,, substr(Active,1,6)
>
> Here are two sample records:
> 410 Auto Wrecking,410 Auto Wrecking,So3011780,Inactive,Industrial SW
> GP,27865 Sr 410 E,Buckley,Pierce,98321
> 410 Auto Wrecking,410 Auto Wrecking,WAR011780,Active,Industrial SW
> GP,27865 Sr 410 E,Buckley,Pierce,98321
>
>
you can exclude lines containing a given value with grep.
grep -v Inactive input.txt
this could cause problems if one of the other fields contained the word
Inactive but it's a start.
-wes
Re: [PLUG] Identifing external hard drives so they consistently mount
On Fri, Jan 19, 2024 at 8:03 AM Rich Shepard wrote: > The MediaSonic Probox is permanently plugged into a USB port on the host. > It's not in-and-out like thumb drives. > > this does not matter. USB detects devices in an unpredictable order. this behavior is inherent to the design. there are also plenty of conditions that can cause a USB host to reset, causing a re-detection of all devices while the system is running. you're already switching to labels, so this won't make any difference once you get that working. but thought it may be useful to keep in mind in the future. -wes
Re: [PLUG] playing around with the wget command finally worked
I imagine the intention of the robots file (in this case set to disallow all "automated" requests) is to reduce web crawler traffic. what's ironic is that the worst offenders already ignore it. -wes On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 2:32 PM American Citizen wrote: > I am making a good faith effort to contact the site administrators. What > is ironic is that anyone can use the save page command in the standard > browser tools and get the file that way without asking at all. > > On 11/20/23 13:58, American Citizen wrote: > > At the risk of being blocked by the Skalfti website, I found that the > > following wget command grabs one and only one file > > > > %wget -r -A 'index.js' -e robots=off -O index.js https://vafri.is/quake/ > > > > Notice that I had to give the file a name using the -O option, and it > > is stored in the current working directory. > > > > I read that using the option -e robots=off is considered rude.. is > > that generally so? > > > > Thanks for bearing with me on this question, as this is the very first > > time I have used wget to grab one specific file, but not knowing > > exactly where in the directory tree of the website the file is located. > > > > Randall > > > > >
Re: [PLUG] playing around with the wget command finally worked
On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 1:58 PM American Citizen wrote: > > I read that using the option -e robots=off is considered rude.. is that > generally so? > > yes, that is generally the case. you are explicitly, intentionally, working against the intentions of the site administrator. it's like riding a skateboard right past a "no skateboarding" sign. the sign is there for a reason, in the same way that the robots file is there for a reason. that reason may or may not be relevant to what you're actually doing. you can't know whether it is or not, so a nice person simply assumes that it applies, and abides by the rule. a rude person flagrantly disregards the rule or even finds motivation to do the opposite. most of us fall somewhere in between those two poles most of the time :) -wes
Re: [PLUG] question about freecarrierlookup.com and txt messages
I tried it yesterday when the post was first made and got the same result - invalid number. I tried again just now and it is working. so it appears to have been an outage on their end. -wes On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 6:28 AM MC_Sequoia wrote: > Firstly, I didn't know about this website and service. It worked for me. I > got the carrier, sms & mms gateways. It even gave me a carrier for my > Google Voice number, which I thought it would return invalid number. >
Re: [PLUG] Root cannot delete file
On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 12:28 PM Bill Barry wrote: > On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 1:18 PM Rich Shepard > wrote: > > > On Mon, 30 Oct 2023, Rich Shepard wrote: > > > > > I tried renaming without success. I'll try using mc (Midnight > Commander). > > > > mc also failed to remove that file. > > > > Rich > > > > Maybe it has nothing to do with the strange character in the filename, > maybe it is set to immutable. > > Try > lsattr > if there is an i for immutable then > chattr -i crazyfilename > > > Bill > I would also suggest running an fsck on that filesystem. -wes
Re: [PLUG] Is it dead, Jim?
On Thu, Feb 9, 2023 at 3:51 PM Ben Koenig wrote: > > Looks like you clicked "reply all" which sent the email to both domains, > resulting in a double post. Also I'm not convinced mail is being delivered > on schedule.. I think this is happening even when only sending to p...@pdxlinux.org - I think tidal's system is delivering emails twice? for some reason? > > For the record, which domain are we supposed to be using? I see no mention > of lists.pdxlinux.org on the website > https://pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > lists.pdxlinux.org is still on spiretech, which is due to be decommissioned "real soon now" -wes
Re: [PLUG] PLUG mailing list issues
would you be able to specify any posts which were not received? you can link to them straight from the archive page if that's easy for you. -wes On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 6:17 PM King Beowulf wrote: > Hello, > > I'm having some difficulty seeing list posts from some domains, notably > protonmail.com. When viewing the web list archive there is a mismatch > to what arrives in Thunderbird. Yep, I've checked "spam" etc. Also, > the plug-announce and plug-talk lists do not seem to match the > email/password credentials of the plug lists. Take a peek when you get a > chance. No hurry. > > I also tied emailing the list emails listed on mailman and password > reset reminder, but these all kick back > > host mail.pdxlinux.org[69.168.62.104] said: 550 > 5.1.1 : Recipient address rejected: User > unknown in virtual mailbox table (in reply to RCPT TO command) > > for all three. > > -Ed > > >
Re: [PLUG] UPS failure modes, not fully considered ...
now that it's way too late to point this out, but maybe it'll help someone somday: most UPSes can be configured to not play the sound. -wes On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 10:30 PM Russell Senior wrote: > I think (but may be mistaken) that I mentioned this here several months > ago, that I had an APC Back-UPS something-or-other complain about failing > batteries. And that I replaced the batteries, but the confounded thing kept > beeping at me, reliably, every 14 minutes and 53 seconds. The UPS is in my > basement, you can hear it throughout the ground floor of the house, more > faintly on the second floor, and super loud in the basement itself. In > April, I bought a diagnostic cable to try to figure out what it was > complaining about, but I didn't get anything informative out of it. > > Then, months later, just about a week ago, having considered just finding > the wire to the speaker that was making the sound and cutting it, I was > standing in a particular spot in the basement where the direction to the > beep could be discriminated at the exact moment it happened to beep, and I > got a clue: the direction wasn't exactly in the direction I expected. > Another minute of closer inspection, and it appeared that *A COMPLETELY > DIFFERENT UPS* was responsible for the beeps. > > The replacement battery arrived today, and I plugged it in. > > The house seems eerily quiet now. > > -- > Russell >
Re: [PLUG] Did PLUG Mailman change?
it's complicated, but the short version is that I would call it intentional, yes. -wes On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 3:09 PM Paul Heinlein wrote: > I'm seeing new List-Id headers in the PLUG-TALK traffic. They were > and have become > . Was that change planned? > > I only ask because I key on those headers for shuffling PLUG messages > to a certain inbox. > > -- > Paul Heinlein > heinl...@madboa.com > 45°22'48" N, 122°35'36" W >
Re: [PLUG] One ethernet port, two subnets
On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 4:56 PM, Rich Shepard <rshep...@appl-ecosys.com> wrote: > On Mon, 6 Nov 2017, Russell Senior wrote: > > >> Is there a way to either connect to a second subnet or to switch between > >> two subnets without rebooting? > > > > Yes. > > Russell, > >Please point me to some docs so I can re-learn how to do this. > > Rich > > I never heard of any need to interact with /proc to do this. I simply add the IP address I wish to occupy on that subnet to the desired interface. Example: I have 2 subnets served by 1 switch (with no VLANs configured) Subnet 1 is 192.168.1.0 Subnet 2 is 192.168.2.0 I can configure eth0 on my system with 2 IP addresses, for example 192.168.1.3 and 192.168.2.4, each with a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0. Now I can communicate with devices on either subnet, even though they can't communicate with each other. If the above doesn't work for you, we may need to learn more about your setup. Given what you've mentioned previously on this topic, I'm going to guess that you're trying to arrange it such that you can talk to the Ubiquiti router both on its default subnet as well as the one the rest of your network uses, without having to re-number your interface every time you try to change something. This is exactly the sort of thing I used to do when I was playing with these devices a lot. -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] PoE on router
On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 4:37 PM, Rich Shepard <rshep...@appl-ecosys.com> wrote: >A question for you experts. The Ubiquiti ER-X has 5 RJ-45 Ethernet > ports, > but two are marked for PoE In and PoE Out. If I'm using the A/C power > supply > can I use these to ports as regular Ethernet access points? > > Yes. -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Configuring ports on wrt54g
On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Rich Shepard <rshep...@appl-ecosys.com> wrote: > On Thu, 26 Oct 2017, wes wrote: > > > You definitely do. It'll be under "port forwarding" related settings, > > possibly under Advanced or Firewall. > > Wes, > >Under Applications & Gaming there are columns for PortRange that have no > services listed. I assume from what you wrote that I'd fill in the first > row > as: > Application Start End ProtocolIP address Enable >smtp 2525 Both 192.168.55.1 Yep > > Otherwise, I see nothing under Advanced (settings) and no Firewall setup. > > Rich > Ahh yes, "Applications & Gaming" sounds familiar. This looks right to me. -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Configuring ports on wrt54g
On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Rich Shepard <rshep...@appl-ecosys.com> wrote: >I have the wrt56g configured on both LAN and WAN sides. Do I need to > explicitly open port 25 (smtp) to receive/send mail? If so, on what > tab/subtab is this located? I'm not finding anything related to ports on > the > configuration pages. > > Rich > You definitely do. It'll be under "port forwarding" related settings, possibly under Advanced or Firewall. -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Router configuration
On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 11:06 AM, Rich Shepard <rshep...@appl-ecosys.com> wrote: > On Thu, 26 Oct 2017, Alexandre Bedard wrote: > > > What kind of performance are you expecting? Netgear's F model numbers > denote > > 100mbps devices, so if downloading a large file, the max theoretical > speed > > you could get in or out is 12MB/sec > > Alexandre/Dan: > >I'm reading conflicting information. You write that the FVS-318 is > capable > of handling 100mbps (which is what the installation tech told me) while Dan > 100mbps is the LAN side rating; no significant processing goes into moving packets from one LAN port to another. writes, "SmallNetBuilder's review of it from 2002 shows its maximum upload > and download throughput as about 7 mbps: > https://www.smallnetbuilder.com/lanwan/lanwan-reviews/24591- > netgearprosafevpnfirewallreview?showall==6 > > This refers to the device's routing speed capability. "Routing" is the act of moving a packet from one network to another. In your case, from the LAN to the WAN and vice versa. This takes non-trivial amounts of CPU processing power to accomplish, especially if one has the firewall enabled, as that causes even more time to be spent inspecting the contents of each packet as it traverses the interfaces. >If you're getting within 1-2 mbps of 7 mbps download speeds, then you're > basically at the limit of your router's capabilities." > >Do I use the wrt54g with firmware from 2006 or buy something new > (ethernet, not wireless)? > > It's not the firmware; it's the CPU of the device. The general consensus from random people on the internet seems to be that the wrt54g can do about 20mpbs, so it should be able to handle your 15mbit connection easily. -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Bug? with tab completion in terminal
you did state that there is plenty of space available, but did you check all drives/partitions? -wes On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 7:33 PM, John Jason Jordan <joh...@gmx.com> wrote: > A few days ago, while attempting to get information about a movie file > that had a long and complicated name I just typed the first couple of > letters and then hit tab. Here is an example from just now: > > mkvmerge -i The_bash: cannot create temp file for > here-document: No space left on device > > I had typed 'The_' before hitting tab. And, of course, there are > terabytes of free space available. > > When this first occurred a few days ago I started to post a query here, > but was delayed in sending it. A few hours later I discovered that the > problem had resolved itself, so I killed the post that I was going to > send. But tonight it is back, so I probably need to solve the problem. > > In case it is important, I almost always use Gnome terminal, but last > time it happened I experimented by going to a real command line > (Ctrl-Alt-F1), where the problem continued. In other words, it is > probably not Gnome terminal. > > The computer is Xubuntu 14.04, up to date. > > Observations and suggestions welcome. > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Clinic on Sunday
Reminder, the Linux Clinic is this Sunday, 1-5pm. Bring your ailing systems or questions and we will try to help, or at least get you pointed in a useful direction. Free Geek 1731 SE 10th Ave Portland, OR 97214 -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Web pages display no body text [was: Configuring fc-cache search path]
On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Rich Shepard <rshep...@appl-ecosys.com> wrote: > On Wed, 4 Oct 2017, Rich Shepard wrote: > > > Please provide suggestions on tests to run or other diagnostics so I > can > > isolate what changed in the past week. > >Update: It's not a DNS issue. Host returned the IP address for > linuxquestions.org (75.126.162.205). Pointing firefox to that IP address > did not display any text. > This test does not rule out DNS issues at all. However DNS is pretty far down the list of most likely causes of the symptoms you describe. > >Web searches found nothing relevant. > > Have you tried Chrome/Chromium? In either browser, pressing F12 should bring up a debug console (aka "developer tools" and various other names). You can poke around in the various tabs here to see if anything sticks out (as in, maybe it's highlit in red). Note that on the Network tab, you have to refresh the page while that tab is selected to get full results. Next, I'd hit ctrl+u to view the source. Does content appear in the source which does not appear in the rendered version? If there's a missing font, the font name will be findable (though perhaps not obvious) somewhere in the source. -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] a question on "mv" command
On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 8:20 PM, VY <vyau5...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks again for all the replies. > > I have a further question on this. > > Is doing "mv *" considered "bad coding"? > > In general, no matter which language I do, I try to avoid any side-effect. > > It reduces readability in the code. Hard to debug when you have pages > after pages of code that consists > of a lot of "side effects". > I much prefer > > "mv a c" > "mv b c" > > if I want to move directory a and b into c. > > Am I old school or is this not applicable in shell scripting? > > If nothing else, it's impractical to say the least... how often do you have to move everything in a directory (except the final entry in the list) into one directory, which happens to be that final entry? And even if that were somehow reliably the case, imagine yourself coming back to read your code after a year or two has passed. Will you understand what it's doing then? That should be your #1 concern. -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Clinic on Sunday
Reminder, the Linux Clinic is this Sunday, 1-5pm. Bring your ailing systems or questions and we will try to help, or at least get you pointed in a useful direction. Free Geek 1731 SE 10th Ave Portland, OR 97214 -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Troubleshooting ssh
On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 9:23 AM, Rich Shepard <rshep...@appl-ecosys.com> wrote: > On Tue, 5 Sep 2017, wes wrote: > > > I think your hosts file entry is backwards > > wes, > >That's the format it's had since 1997. > > hrm. you're right. what do "ping salmo" and "ping 192.168.55.1" return? -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Troubleshooting ssh
I think your hosts file entry is backwards -wes On Tuesday, September 5, 2017, Rich Shepard <rshep...@appl-ecosys.com> wrote: > On Tue, 5 Sep 2017, Rich Shepard wrote: > > > ssh: count not connect to host salmo:: Name or service not known' > > Change 'count' to 'could'. > > Rich > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org <javascript:;> > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Need help: application builds on 64-bit but not 32-bit systems
On Friday, September 1, 2017, Tomas Kuchta <tomas.kuchta.li...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > How do you run Alpine on Android? > > > Use ssh :-) -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Linux Widows Guide
> > We are considering a project over the next year: > writing a "Linux Widow's Guide". > What would go in this guide that isn't in Linux For Dummies? -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Cheap printer for Raspberry Pi idea
I found an old HP deskjet 1000 at a thrift store that takes a plain 12v dc power supply. I got it for the same goal, to power it straight off the car. Haven't bothered to search for ink yet -wes On Monday, August 21, 2017, Dave <w7...@comcast.net> wrote: > Battery printers have existed for many decades Michael but I wouldn't > know where to refer you today. Household appliance repairmen and others > carry them on the job for tech analysis reports and receipts. Should not > be too hard to find an OEM. Someone here should know. -Dave. > > > On 8/20/2017 11:08 PM, Michael Barnes wrote: > > Good to know. What would be really great is to find a similar printer > that > > would run from 12VDC. I'd like to set up a completely portable fly-away > > package that ran from 12VDC to utilize battery/vehicle/solar power. > > > > Michael > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Dave <w7...@comcast.net <javascript:;>> > wrote: > > > >> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/pipermail/plug/2017-August/087027.html > >> > >> Here's a follow-up report: > >> > >> /I ordered an HP Deskjet 1112 from Amazon for this application. It > claims > >> // > >> //to have full support for Linux Debian (RPi?) and Mint via USB. For $29 > >> it's // > >> //worth a try. If it works, it should be a perfect small addition to a > // > >> //stand-alone RPi student learning station.// > >> / > >> > > >> > >> Received the HP Deskjet 1112 and installed it first in Windows 7 to make > >> sure it worked. Then installed it to a Raspberry Pi 3B. > >> > >> The software installation went mostly smoothly, carefully following the > >> detailed instructions and accepting the defaults found at: > >> > >> http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html > >> > >> They are close enough. (You do NOT have to worry about editing some ??? > >> file mentioned. It's not on the RPi.) > >> > >> The only glitch was the install requires a root/superuser password. If I > >> had one it apparently didn't like it so I added *sudo passwd root* and > >> made "*root*" the password. That worked. In the future I'll do up front > >> before beginning the software install to get it out of the way. > >> > >> I'm quite pleased with the results. For the price, it is a lot of > >> printer; quick, and excellent quality. But the HP software isn't > >> perfect. I can't get it to print the last page first despite a tab to > >> that effect, and it doesn't print footers despite showing them on the > >> screen. Since the printed text appears to be a little larger than it > >> should that probably explains the missing footers. I may be doing > >> something wrong, but again, for $29, and having an easy RPi3 Install, > >> this ain't bad. > >> > >> Will also be installing the 1112 to a Linux MINT machine just to wring > >> it out some more and see what happens. Hope this helps someone. > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> PLUG mailing list > >> PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org <javascript:;> > >> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > >> > > ___ > > PLUG mailing list > > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org <javascript:;> > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org <javascript:;> > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Cheap printer for Raspberry Pi idea
I have a pop-can shaped inverter that fits nicely in a cup holder. It's not so powerful it they causes problems with power draw. On really hot days, I plug a fan in so I can pretend I'm ok with not having air conditioning. -wes On Tuesday, August 22, 2017, Tom <tomas.kuchta.li...@gmail.com> wrote: > I solved this kind of portability, and more, by purchasing an inverter. > I find that way more universal than trying to get stuff working on > battery power with unstable voltage. True 110V socket in the car is > awesome for road and marine trips. The size of the inverter is about > 15x20x5cm. > If you chose to go this route, I would advice to get true sine wave > inverter. It costs 2-3x more but it works way better than the square > and/or modified sine wave inverters. They (not the true sine wave one) > caused my power bricks + the inverter to overheat and it was bloody > noisy. You can draw max 15A out of lighter socket in the car so 120 > -150W inverter is all you can feed without wiring it directly to the > battery. I got it in Frys' after returning the cheaper modified sine > wave one. > Hope it helps, Tomas > On Sun, 2017-08-20 at 23:08 -0700, Michael Barnes wrote: > > Good to know. What would be really great is to find a similar printer > > that > > would run from 12VDC. I'd like to set up a completely portable fly > > -away > > package that ran from 12VDC to utilize battery/vehicle/solar power. > > > > Michael > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Dave <w7...@comcast.net <javascript:;>> > wrote: > > > > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/pipermail/plug/2017-August/087027.html > > > > > > Here's a follow-up report: > > > > > > /I ordered an HP Deskjet 1112 from Amazon for this application. It > > > claims > > > // > > > //to have full support for Linux Debian (RPi?) and Mint via USB. > > > For $29 > > > it's // > > > //worth a try. If it works, it should be a perfect small addition > > > to a // > > > //stand-alone RPi student learning station.// > > > / > > > --- > > > - > > > > > > Received the HP Deskjet 1112 and installed it first in Windows 7 to > > > make > > > sure it worked. Then installed it to a Raspberry Pi 3B. > > > > > > The software installation went mostly smoothly, carefully following > > > the > > > detailed instructions and accepting the defaults found at: > > > > > > http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html > > > > > > They are close enough. (You do NOT have to worry about editing some > > > ??? > > > file mentioned. It's not on the RPi.) > > > > > > The only glitch was the install requires a root/superuser password. > > > If I > > > had one it apparently didn't like it so I added *sudo passwd root* > > > and > > > made "*root*" the password. That worked. In the future I'll do up > > > front > > > before beginning the software install to get it out of the way. > > > > > > I'm quite pleased with the results. For the price, it is a lot of > > > printer; quick, and excellent quality. But the HP software isn't > > > perfect. I can't get it to print the last page first despite a tab > > > to > > > that effect, and it doesn't print footers despite showing them on > > > the > > > screen. Since the printed text appears to be a little larger than > > > it > > > should that probably explains the missing footers. I may be doing > > > something wrong, but again, for $29, and having an easy RPi3 > > > Install, > > > this ain't bad. > > > > > > Will also be installing the 1112 to a Linux MINT machine just to > > > wring > > > it out some more and see what happens. Hope this helps someone. > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > PLUG mailing list > > > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org <javascript:;> > > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > > > ___ > > PLUG mailing list > > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org <javascript:;> > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org <javascript:;> > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG-ANNOUNCE] Clinic on Sunday
Reminder, the Linux Clinic is this Sunday, 1-5pm. Bring your ailing systems or questions and we will try to help, or at least get you pointed in a useful direction. Free Geek 1731 SE 10th Ave Portland, OR 97214 Side note: I will be running as fast as I can to join the ridiculous traffic jam headed south immediately after the clinic, so please arrive early if possible. Thank you -wes ___ PLUG-announce mailing list PLUG-announce@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce
[PLUG] Clinic on Sunday
Reminder, the Linux Clinic is this Sunday, 1-5pm. Bring your ailing systems or questions and we will try to help, or at least get you pointed in a useful direction. Free Geek 1731 SE 10th Ave Portland, OR 97214 Side note: I will be running as fast as I can to join the ridiculous traffic jam headed south immediately after the clinic, so please arrive early if possible. Thank you -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Century Link sales at the door
more likely, your particular salesperson was trying to make a better commission. it is entirely possible to get better prices for better services from CL. not sure what you mean by the "not on super service" point - literally anything is better than comcast. -wes On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 8:39 PM, Denis Heidtmann <denis.heidtm...@gmail.com> wrote: > The young lady said that fiber to the home is SO much better--reliable, > etc. I asked about the download speed. 40. Up? 20. Cost? I think it was > just under $100. (Phone and internet; no TV). How do they expect to compete > with Comcast if their intro stuff is more expensive? Certainly not on > superior service. > > My son plays one off the other to keep lower prices. Maybe Century Link is > dropping out of that game on the west side. > > -Denis > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Advanced Topics
> > > > Wes, does someone from Free Geek need to be present? > > > not necessarily. they're not handing out keys to just anyone like they used to, but we can get people in as needed. -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Advanced Topics
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 4:00 PM, Michael Dexter <dex...@ambidexter.com> wrote: > On 7/24/17 7:25 PM, Alan wrote: > > Looks like Advanced Topics is not being run anymore. > > > > Do people want me to start it up again? > > > > I am going to try and get to the next meeting. We can discuss it there. > > That's your call. The change in Free Geek's building policy made it a > bit of a pain. They officially want payment and want someone from Free > Geek to be present for the meeting. They are willing to waive the fee > but strangely not remove it from the contract as per our last discussion. > > The new building policy hasn't really been a challenge for me or John. I think the much tougher obstacles are scheduling topics and speakers, and being able to be present for all the meetings. -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG-ANNOUNCE] Clinic on Sunday
Reminder, the Linux Clinic is this Sunday, 1-5pm. Bring your ailing systems or questions and we will try to help, or at least get you pointed in a useful direction. Free Geek 1731 SE 10th Ave Portland, OR 97214 -wes ___ PLUG-announce mailing list PLUG-announce@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce
[PLUG] Clinic on Sunday
Reminder, the Linux Clinic is this Sunday, 1-5pm. Bring your ailing systems or questions and we will try to help, or at least get you pointed in a useful direction. Free Geek 1731 SE 10th Ave Portland, OR 97214 -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] newegg security
On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 7:40 AM, Galen Seitz <gal...@seitzassoc.com> wrote: > On 07/04/17 08:55, Galen Seitz wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Yesterday I went to the newegg web site to buy a disk. I opened a > > private browsing session in Firefox and went to newegg.com. I then > > clicked on the login link on their home page. At this point my memory > > gets a bit fuzzy, but I believe it was at that point I got a "Your > > connection is not secure" page from Firefox. At that point I followed a > > link from the Firefox page to the SSL Labs' test page. I ran a test on > > secure.newegg.com and it came back with a grade of F. Unfortunately I > > subsequently closed the firefox private session, losing the test > > information and the IP address. This morning I tried the SSL test again > > on secure.newegg.com, and the resulting score was A+. Now I'm left > > wondering what was going on yesterday. Has anyone else encountered > > this? I *really* wish I hadn't deleted that page with the F score. > > > > FWIW, my Firefox is ESR 52.2.0. > > OK, tried it again this morning and got the insecure connection problem > again. the next time it fails, right away, drop to a command line and issue "ping secure.newegg.com" - this will tell you which IP your system is using for this address currently. however, the issue may not be with this hostname specifically. it could easily be some other part of the page it's complaining about. perhaps taking a screenshot of the error page (also showing the URL) would be helpful. this mailing list doesn't allow attachments, so you can either send it to me directly for my opinion, or upload it to imgur.com or some other place and post the link for everyone to see. -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Current state of Linux voice recognition
Speech recognition recognition is built in to any smart phone. May not serve your high-frequency research purposes, but it'll help you take notes without issue. -wes On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 6:52 AM, Richard Owlett <rowl...@cloud85.net> wrote: > Up until about ten years ago, while still using Windows, I was following > voice recognition. At that time the only option was commercial product > which cost too much and wasn't a good match for my desires at that time. > > Time has passed and I'm retired. What I'm looking for would be a large > vocabulary, single speaker, continuous speech system. The application > would be straight text note taking - I'm a slow and lousy typist. > > I'm already investigating good microphones with good A/D resolution and > preferably high sample rate [I've ideas on pre-processing I would like > to experiment with]. > > Can anyone recommend some survey articles &/or competent current reviews. > TIA > > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] backup drive in a NexStar dock
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 12:27 PM, Denis Heidtmann <denis.heidtm...@gmail.com > wrote: > On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 9:48 AM, wes <p...@the-wes.com> wrote: > > > replace drive adapter and press any key to continue > > > > -wes > > > > By "drive adapter" I assume you mean the NexStar model NSY-D100 hard drive > dock. What should I replace it with? I chose a HD dock because I use the > drive only once per week, so it does not make sense to have it running all > the time with such low usage. But these things are prone to issues. I > took the thing apart, and I cannot say I am impressed with the > workmanship. But I found nothing that I could pin the problems on. If I > can find a way to check the power supply voltages (5V and 12V) I will do > that. > > > > yes, the thing you're using to connect the drive to the system. if the problem goes away, we know it was that. if it continues, we're pretty sure it's the drive itself. -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] backup drive in a NexStar dock
replace drive adapter and press any key to continue -wes On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Denis Heidtmann <denis.heidtm...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have a 500GB WD hard drive installed in a dock. A number of weeks ago > fsck reported pages of errors. A few of you looked at a sample of the > messages and suggested that I had disconnected the drive while it was being > written. I had not done that (intentionally). More recently the desktop > reported the drive did not exist. I powered the drive off, removed and > reinserted the disk, the sata connector and the power plug. I tried again > and the drive was accessible. The backup seemed to go normally. Today the > same "no such drive" message appeared. > > It seems likely that the fsck issues were in fact due to a disconnect > similar to what causes the "no such drive" symptoms. > > So the possible causes are the sata connection, the drive's connection in > the dock, and the power supply. How might I trouble shoot this? > > Thanks, > -Denis > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] ssh vs vpn
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Michael Barnes <barnmich...@gmail.com> wrote: > As I understand it (I've forgotten a lot more than I remember), a vpn > provides a secure tunnel between your computer and the distant network. You > would use ssh and other protocols to connect via the vpn tunnel. So, it is > not really a vpn vs. ssh issue. It is a matter of making the ssh connection > out in the open over the Internet, or through the secure tunnel provided by > the vpn. > > ssh offers connection forwarding, and so can be used as a sort of poor-man's vpn. I would say, for a single user with a little patience, it would be sufficient for most needs. the patience is needed because there isn't a way (that I'm aware of) to forward multiple ports at once, as is the default with vpn software. additionally, one needs to alter the way their local client software connects to get it to use the ssh tunnel, whereas that can be handled automagically with a proper vpn in place. -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Tracing mail sent via postfix
> > >Is there a tool that can trace an outgoing message and determine where > it > got lost if it does not reach the intended recipient? > > nope. it's all guesswork and black magic. -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Dell Latitide BIOS upgrades [UPDATED]
On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 10:20 AM, Rich Shepard <rshep...@appl-ecosys.com> wrote: > On Mon, 19 Jun 2017, wes wrote: > > >> AFUWIN.EXE* E5410A16.exe* > >> BOOTLOG.TXT* M2100A06.exe* > > > copy E5410A16.exe and M2100A06.exe to the flash drive. > > Wes, > >Done. > > > ... then, boot to the flash drive. then, execute the exe which matches > > the model number of the system you're working on currently. > >If I understand correctly, I need to change the BIOS setting so the USB > flash drive is the first to be seen as bootable. Correct? After the upgrade > I return the cdrom drive to boot first in the BIOS settings. > that's one way to do it. another would be to use the key which prompts the BIOS to ask you which device to boot from. on dells, this is usually f11 or f12. >BTW, the Dell tech with whom I spoke didn't answer my question whether > the > new BIOS version (A06) supports booting from the SSD. Time will tell. > I suspect this issue is not so straightforward that anyone we could talk to would have the answer. there is no special support a BIOS must have in order to boot from an SSD. SSDs aren't terribly different from other drives as far as the BIOS is concerned. something deep behind the scenes is at play here. if a BIOS update fixes it, it will be because it included a fix for some other thing which happened to also fix this issue. this happens far more often than I like to think about. -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Dell Latitide BIOS upgrades [UPDATED]
On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Rich Shepard <rshep...@appl-ecosys.com> wrote: > On Mon, 19 Jun 2017, Rich Shepard wrote: > > > 0 upon a time I had a 128M thumb drive with a version of DOS on it > > which upgraded the E5410's BIOS. I cannot find that flash drive now and > need > > to make another one. > >Aha! I found the drive. It's 4G, not 128M, but that's OK. Loaded the two > new BIOS files and the contents of the drive now are: > > 070830s.ROM* COMMAND.COM* MSDOS.SYS* > AFUDOS.EXE* DOS Flash Utility User Guide.pdf* UCOREW64.SYS* > AFUWIN.EXE* E5410A16.exe* Ucoredll.dll* > BOOTLOG.PRV* IO.SYS*Ucoresys.sys* > BOOTLOG.TXT* M2100A06.exe* Ucorevxd.vxd* > >I assume that after booting the portable, I insert the drive in a USB > port, mount the thumb drive, and (with the thumb drive as the cwd) at the > command line enter afudos.exe ... or do I just invoke the new BIOS .exe > file? It's been about 6 years since I upgraded the E5410's BIOS so I don't > remember how to do it. > >Clue stick needed. > > Rich > copy E5410A16.exe and M2100A06.exe to the flash drive. then, boot to the flash drive. then, execute the exe which matches the model number of the system you're working on currently. -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Dell Latitide BIOS upgrades
> > >Once upon a time I had a 128M thumb drive with a version of DOS on it > which upgraded the E5410's BIOS. I cannot find that flash drive now and > need > to make another one. I assume that FreeDOS will work (haven't used it > before) and I assume that I need some sort of tool to actually perform the > upgrades. > I've used freeDOS for this successfully, but I've also read there are cases where it doesn't work. there isn't a special tool for it, just run the EXE once you can boot into an environment from which it will run. -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Any Z915 users out there? - was [Re: Problem using a T-mobile Z915 Hotspot on a Linux machine]
> > > Something somewhere that tells the OS exists and where/how connected. > the Z915 does this, via a mechanism called DHCP. overriding the values provided by DHCP _can_ break your access, if you do it wrong, but is easily reversible by undoing the changes. I fondly remember simplicity of an acoustic coupler. IIRC I once used > one not even RS232 but a 20 mA current loop. > I remember 12AX7's and 026's > > this only works if the connection is 1-to-1. at some point, someone will have to decide how information gets from one end of a web to the other. -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Problem using a T-mobile Z915 Hotspot on a Linux machine
> > If I enter the numeric IP # referenced in resolv.conf into the browser's > address bar I see the screen used to access the setup of the Z915 from this, I conclude that the Z915 is instructing its connected clients to pass DNS requests through itself. it probably runs a cache to reduce load on t-mobile's DNS servers. if you wanted, you could alter the Z915's config to use different DNS servers itself, rather than overriding them at the client level. your preference. > > 1. Would using a "foreign" DNS cause me problems with T-mobile? > no. 2. Without a numeric IP in resolv.conf, how would my OS know how/where > to access the Z915? > define "access" - in this case, resolv.conf only controls where your system looks for answers to DNS queries. with no entries in this file, your system would be unable to find those answers, and your internet connection would be usable only by IP address (as in, not very practical). > > > > > Those are the Google nameservers. > > Anything with Google makes me wary. > I use 4.2.2.2 personally, but it's operated by Verizon so probably not much better than Google. at some point you just have to pick your poison. -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG-ANNOUNCE] Clinic on Sunday
Reminder, the Linux Clinic is this Sunday, 1-5pm. Bring your ailing systems or questions and we will try to help, or at least get you pointed in a useful direction. We will spend the first portion of our time on a presentation about the basics of networking. Free Geek 1731 SE 10th Ave Portland, OR 97214 -wes ___ PLUG-announce mailing list PLUG-announce@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce
[PLUG] Clinic on Sunday
Reminder, the Linux Clinic is this Sunday, 1-5pm. Bring your ailing systems or questions and we will try to help, or at least get you pointed in a useful direction. We will spend the first portion of our time on a presentation about the basics of networking. Free Geek 1731 SE 10th Ave Portland, OR 97214 -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Understanding where e-mails can get lost
> > >Is there anything I can run from here to try to find why these > newsletters > never arrive while other messages have no problems? > > Rich > newsletters and other automated mailings are often sent through a third party provider, which introduces the complexity of validating that provider as an authorized party to send emails on behalf of that domain. normally a domain is configured to announce only its own mail server as valid for sending emails. extra steps are needed to give a mail sending service the same level of authorization. additionally, these services are often miscategorized as sources of spam, since many people misuse the reporting function in their email service to report legit automated emails as spam. which means, their mass-mail provider might be blacklisted at your end, which may or may not show up in your logs, depending on how it's set up. even if it does show up, it may not have the sender's name in it anywhere, so a grep for it wouldn't yield results. it may show up as "attempted connection from 1.2.3.4, denied due to blacklist" or similar. of course, if you don't know where it's connecting from, you don't know what to look for. it may also not show up at all, either due to configuration, or perhaps because the block occurs upstream from your location. as in, your ISP could be blocking traffic from that IP address. not terribly likely, but I've seen it before. I once had to argue with network engineers at amazon, years ago when that was actually a real thing that happened (ever), because they were blocking traffic from my network while insisting that they weren't. if they're truly getting bounces from your address, ask them to forward you a copy of the bounce message. this should be easy enough, even for a non-technically-inclined person. more likely, if they're using a mass-mail service, they get a dashboard report of their mailing, along with stats for things like successful and failed deliveries, which may be reported as "bounce rate" or similar. it'll be up to the service to either provide (or not provide) any features for seeing why a given email failed. are you friends with anyone who does get the newsletter successfully? ask them to forward you a copy of it (preferably with headers included), so you can examine the differences between that one and an email that reaches you. or, you can use an account at a different mail service (gmail or whatever) to sign up for the newsletter, then see if you get it there. if you do, you can then compare the headers of that one to those of an individual email you receive successfully on your primary account. -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG-ANNOUNCE] Practical Networking - Basics
Our friend Tomas is volunteering to help us learn more about networking! We will hold a small instructional class at the beginning of our next Clinic, which is this Sunday from 1-5 at Free Geek. He intends to cover basic IPV4, routing, DHCP, DNS and NAT. If people bring their computers and if they are interested, we can do practical networking setup and see how things work in the left over time. We'll do the class at the very start of Clinic time, at 1pm sharp. If you're interested in the general presentation, please feel free to arrive a few minutes early. If you're coming for the Clinic, we'll still help you quietly on the other end of the room until the talk is over. The length of time we put into it will entirely depend on the audience. We're here to provide what you're looking for! -wes ___ PLUG-announce mailing list PLUG-announce@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce
[PLUG] Practical Networking - Basics
Our friend Tomas is volunteering to help us learn more about networking! We will hold a small instructional class at the beginning of our next Clinic, which is this Sunday from 1-5 at Free Geek. He intends to cover basic IPV4, routing, DHCP, DNS and NAT. If people bring their computers and if they are interested, we can do practical networking setup and see how things work in the left over time. We'll do the class at the very start of Clinic time, at 1pm sharp. If you're interested in the general presentation, please feel free to arrive a few minutes early. If you're coming for the Clinic, we'll still help you quietly on the other end of the room until the talk is over. The length of time we put into it will entirely depend on the audience. We're here to provide what you're looking for! -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Trackball middle button pastes string twice [FIXED ... MAYBE]
On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 8:09 PM, Michael Barnes <barnmich...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Rich Shepard <rshep...@appl-ecosys.com> > wrote: > > > > >On a related note, eBay has these really old units for sale > > starting at $188. I wonder if any have been sold. > > > > Rich > > > > Seriously? $188? I had to look. These things are running anywhere from $180 > to over $800!!! Are these people nuts? It's just a trackball for goodness > sake. I didn't pay that much for the computer! Maybe I better start locking > mine in a safe at night. > > Michael > > or maybe we should start making some of our own to sell -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Make RPM
http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=lmgtfy -wes (I'm sorry, I just could not resist) On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Tom <tomas.kuchta.li...@gmail.com> wrote: > I apologize if this did not come across as genuine question about how > was this Google search visualized. > I find this useful and elegant and I can see possible use of this, > especially if this can be universally applicable other web apps/forms. > I have thought about asking privately, but I truly believe that it > might be of value to others too. > Perhaps I should have used different Subject line. > Tomas > On Sun, 2017-05-21 at 09:05 -0700, Galen Seitz wrote: > > On 05/20/17 19:13, Tom wrote: > > > Would you be willing to share your filling Google form education > > > class > > > creation know-how Paul? > > > Would it be universally applicable to other web applications? > > > I am sure that the answer is just another G search away, but I am > > > at > > > loss what to look for ... > > > > Tom, I'm guessing you intended that as snark. Regardless, Paul has > > definitely made contributions on the "how to build an rpm" subject. > > > > <https://www.madboa.com/geek/specs/> > > > > If you're curious how I found that, well, I've been on this list a > > *long* time. I knew that if I put 'heinlein rpm' into google, I'd > > probably find a link to one of Paul's web pages. As it turns out, it > > was the second link. > > > > > > galen > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Clinic on Sunday
Reminder, the Linux Clinic is this Sunday, 1-5pm. Bring your ailing systems or questions and we will try to help, or at least get you pointed in a useful direction. Free Geek 1731 SE 10th Ave Portland, OR 97214 -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG-ANNOUNCE] Clinic on Sunday
Reminder, the Linux Clinic is this Sunday, 1-5pm. Bring your ailing systems or questions and we will try to help, or at least get you pointed in a useful direction. Free Geek 1731 SE 10th Ave Portland, OR 97214 -wes ___ PLUG-announce mailing list PLUG-announce@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce
Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu upgrade
well, I don't have any more ideas for you right now, but if you don't get it figured out by this weekend, the PLUG Clinic is this Sunday, 1-5pm. 1731 SE 10th Ave, 97214. -wes On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 11:37 PM, Michael Barnes <barnmich...@gmail.com> wrote: > It also looks like it is not using IPV4, only IPV6. Strange. > > > On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 10:40 PM, Michael Barnes <barnmich...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > More info seems to lead to more questions. Apparently this has something > > to do with systemd. I guess this is a new (to me) thing and it changes > the > > way stuff is named. So, what used to be eth0 is now enp3s0. But, trying > the > > usual network commands with that don't work either. > > > > Michael > > > > > > On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 10:04 PM, wes <p...@the-wes.com> wrote: > > > >> my first step is usually to find the model number in the lspci output, > and > >> the google that number along with ubuntu 16.04 and see if anyone's > posted > >> a > >> guide. > >> > >> -wes > >> > >> On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 9:28 PM, Michael Barnes <barnmich...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > Installed 16.04 LTS via flash drive to new hard drive. Only took a few > >> > minutes! Previous DVD installs took much, much longer. Anyhow, so far, > >> no > >> > network. Sadly, my Linux memory has become very foggy, so please > forgive > >> > the noobie type questions. I don't seem to be finding eth0. Using > >> lspci, I > >> > find the info for the onboard Broadcom Ethernet adapter, but under > >> > 'Capabilities' it says ". Running ifconfig does not > show > >> > eth0, but it does show enp3s0. If I try "sudo ifup eth0" I get > "Unknown > >> > interface eth0." > >> > > >> > I'm kind of surprised at the minimum of questions and the speed of the > >> > install. I wonder what else will not be working? > >> > > >> > Thanks for your comments, > >> > > >> > Michael > >> > > >> > > >> > On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 8:42 PM, Michael Barnes < > barnmich...@gmail.com> > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > > I figured the quickest and easiest was probably to start all over. > It > >> > > looks like all my files, pictures, documents, etc. are still intact. > >> I'll > >> > > just stick in a new hard drive, install 16.04 LTS from scratch, then > >> copy > >> > > what I need from the old drive to the new one. Thanks for everyone's > >> > > comments. > >> > > > >> > > Michael > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 12:51 AM, Nat Taylor <biob...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >> instead of comparing xorg files, I'd want to get it to try to > >> > >> automagically > >> > >> configure stuff fresh, maybe with a *sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg* > and > >> a > >> > >> *sudo > >> > >> apt update && sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt dist-upgrade* > >> > >> Maybe try dpkg-reconfiguring your window manager (unity?) > >> > >> -- did it disable the universe or multiverse for the upgrade and do > >> you > >> > >> need to reenable it? > >> > >> Check your /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ > >> > >> > >> > >> Did you do the upgrade to 16.04 by manually editing the sources, or > >> did > >> > >> you > >> > >> use the tool in the Software Center, or did you do-release-upgrade > >> from > >> > >> the > >> > >> command line? > >> > >> > >> > >> On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Michael Barnes < > >> barnmich...@gmail.com> > >> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > Yeah, I got to thinking after I started I shouldn't have done > that. > >> > >> > Everything has been packed away for almost a year. It seems I've > >> > >> forgotten > >> > >> > more than I remember. A new hard drive is probably in order. I'll > >> have > >> > >> to > >> > >> > compare Xorg files and look at drivers loaded between the two > >> &
Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu upgrade
my first step is usually to find the model number in the lspci output, and the google that number along with ubuntu 16.04 and see if anyone's posted a guide. -wes On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 9:28 PM, Michael Barnes <barnmich...@gmail.com> wrote: > Installed 16.04 LTS via flash drive to new hard drive. Only took a few > minutes! Previous DVD installs took much, much longer. Anyhow, so far, no > network. Sadly, my Linux memory has become very foggy, so please forgive > the noobie type questions. I don't seem to be finding eth0. Using lspci, I > find the info for the onboard Broadcom Ethernet adapter, but under > 'Capabilities' it says ". Running ifconfig does not show > eth0, but it does show enp3s0. If I try "sudo ifup eth0" I get "Unknown > interface eth0." > > I'm kind of surprised at the minimum of questions and the speed of the > install. I wonder what else will not be working? > > Thanks for your comments, > > Michael > > > On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 8:42 PM, Michael Barnes <barnmich...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > I figured the quickest and easiest was probably to start all over. It > > looks like all my files, pictures, documents, etc. are still intact. I'll > > just stick in a new hard drive, install 16.04 LTS from scratch, then copy > > what I need from the old drive to the new one. Thanks for everyone's > > comments. > > > > Michael > > > > > > On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 12:51 AM, Nat Taylor <biob...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> instead of comparing xorg files, I'd want to get it to try to > >> automagically > >> configure stuff fresh, maybe with a *sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg* and a > >> *sudo > >> apt update && sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt dist-upgrade* > >> Maybe try dpkg-reconfiguring your window manager (unity?) > >> -- did it disable the universe or multiverse for the upgrade and do you > >> need to reenable it? > >> Check your /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ > >> > >> Did you do the upgrade to 16.04 by manually editing the sources, or did > >> you > >> use the tool in the Software Center, or did you do-release-upgrade from > >> the > >> command line? > >> > >> On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Michael Barnes <barnmich...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > Yeah, I got to thinking after I started I shouldn't have done that. > >> > Everything has been packed away for almost a year. It seems I've > >> forgotten > >> > more than I remember. A new hard drive is probably in order. I'll have > >> to > >> > compare Xorg files and look at drivers loaded between the two > versions. > >> > Just have to remember how to do all that. > >> > > >> > Michael > >> > > >> > > >> > On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 1:44 PM, Edward Koenig <kingbeow...@gmail.com > > > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > > Michael > >> > > If the new version boots and you can ssh to log in, then most likely > >> > > either X.org or a GPU driver did not update fully or correctly. This > >> is > >> > > very typical for proprietary nvidia drivers, or any proprietary > >> hardware > >> > > drivers that install a kernel module. You might try using the > command > >> > line > >> > > tools to reinstall the GPU and X bits. I'm not sure it Ubuntu > >> switched > >> > to > >> > > wayland with this release so perhaps check on that. Remember to > read > >> the > >> > > release notes etc before clicking "upgrade" > >> > > > >> > > Nuking from orbit, as Dick suggests after backup, will certainly > work. > >> > > Personally run a Linux distribution to avoid such "windowesque" > fixes. > >> > > > >> > > Ed > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > On May 12, 2017, at 11:36 AM, Dick Steffens < > d...@dicksteffens.com> > >> > > wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > >> On 05/12/2017 11:24 AM, Michael Barnes wrote: > >> > > >> I rebooted again and at the grub screen chose 14.04LTS. > Everything > >> > came > >> > > up > >> > > >> normally. After login, I get a pop-up window that says 14.04 is > out > >> > > dated > >> > > >> and no longer suppo
Re: [PLUG] Comcast repeatedly asks for activation
I don't have any answers for you on the Comcast front, but I can explain why Google gives you an error screen rather than an activation screen. It's because Google (as a company) insists on using SSL encryption for all web traffic. Encrypted traffic is more difficult to redirect, and Comcast doesn't do it. If you were to manually enter http://www.google.com, you would probably get the activation screen. Normally, Google would forcibly redirect you to https://www.google.com (note the added S), which your browser then caches and pops up automatically for you next time, which is then un-redirectable by Comcast. -wes On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Denis Heidtmann <denis.heidtm...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Saturday 5/6 we could not reach the internet. After much conversation > w/comcast they sent a technician out on Sunday. He arrived early, seemed > knowledgeable. I had an old (rented) modem beyond eol. I had received in > the mail a replacement modem from Comcast many months ago, still in the > unopened box. (Why I had not installed it is for another discussion.) He > installed it, activated it, and everything seemed fine. > > The following morning (Mon.) the internet was not accessible again. Much > more phone conversation later it appeared that I needed to activate the > modem. Went through that process, which terminated in a screen saying "You > can now use your Xfinity service. But wait; you need give the modem time > to reset." I gave it some time, tried to close the browser, but was told > there was a download in progress. I waited a short time, tried again, same > download in progress msg, closed anyway. Now a strange binary file > appeared in my download folder "unconfirmed 792430.crdownload". But the > internet was accessible throughout the day. > > The following morning (Tues.) the same thing happened. I went through the > activation, this time not closing the browser until all was done. No > strange file. Internet fine until the next morning (Wed.; today) same > issue. I activated again, which restored internet access, but this time I > called. They sent a technician again. This guy I am not so sure about; he > had no explanation for the repeated need to activate. He left his card, > and told me to call him tomorrow if the problem repeats, and not to > activate--wait so he can see the issue. This what I plan to do. > > The symptoms are that when trying to get to a site (other than Google) > from the browser, I get the Comcast Activation screen. The tech said that > is the screen one gets when first installing a new modem. (When I try to go > to Google.com, I get the msg. that I cannot reach the internet..) > > It occurs to me that perhaps Comcast still has me and the previous modem > linked, so they keep wanting to activate the new modem. > > Any ideas? > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Change firefox open tab order
On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 5:37 PM, Rich Shepard <rshep...@appl-ecosys.com> wrote: > On Mon, 8 May 2017, John Jason Jordan wrote: > > > I have always been able to drag tabs around, including from one window to > > another window, and if I drag a tab completely off of Firefox it opens > the > > tab in a new window. > >This stopped working a couple of years ago. > >I can move a tap to another position but as soon as I lift my finger > from > the trackball button the tab snaps back to its original position. > > > I wonder if the problem is in your Firefox. > >Not too likely. It's been this way for quite a few versions. > > > I've never heard of this. I just went and installed Firefox version 45.9.0 (esr) and ran it, and re-arranged my tabs like normal. So something weird must be going on with your particular setup. -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Change firefox open tab order
What version are you running? -wes On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Rich Shepard <rshep...@appl-ecosys.com> wrote: >Once upon a time with earlier versions of firefox I could change the > sequence of open tabs by moving them. Then firefox removed that feature. Is > there a way of moving open tab order in the newer firefox version? > >My web searches turn up initial tab order, how to use firefox tabs, and > similar results, but not what I'm looking for. Except for a question about > doing this on andriod and the answer is that it's not possible on that OS. > > Rich > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG-ANNOUNCE] Clinic on Sunday
Reminder, the Linux Clinic is this Sunday, 1-5pm. Bring your ailing systems or questions and we will try to help, or at least get you pointed in a useful direction. Free Geek 1731 SE 10th Ave Portland, OR 97214 -wes ___ PLUG-announce mailing list PLUG-announce@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce
[PLUG] Clinic on Sunday
Reminder, the Linux Clinic is this Sunday, 1-5pm. Bring your ailing systems or questions and we will try to help, or at least get you pointed in a useful direction. Free Geek 1731 SE 10th Ave Portland, OR 97214 -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Backup RPi SD card
That is a good point, the best plan may just be to put an antenna on a pole and run the lead inside. I don't know anything about the equipment in that area. -wes On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 12:01 AM, Chuck Hast <wch...@gmail.com> wrote: > Well, if you have 1-2 bars a directional antenna will give you some gain, > If you can add 5 db to that you should be pretty good. Wonder what they > are using out there? I have an app that shows me which band the radio > is working, I will have to look and see what it is. If you look at > directional > cellular antennas there are quite a few. As to the device, I have been > looking > at several devices all of them are some sort of cell modem, I am trying to > find one that uses PoE and is in a weather proof case. Having lived in > FL I know what salt air is all about. In Tampa anything outside had a life > of about 2 years if it was any of the common metals. I.e. Aluminium, most > steel, and iron. About the only thing that had a reasonable life was SS. > > Back on the antenna thing, yes, if you can add some elevation to it even > better. Vegetation is evil. the NW is no better than tropical rain forest > and > in some cases worse, the needles on some of the conifers are 1/2 and 1/4 > wave length at some of the common used frequencies and those needles > really suck up the RF. I had a similar situation in S. New Jersey, those > needles were near enough to 800Mhz wavelength to cause major attenuation. > 1/4 wave is about 9.8cm, which is about the same length as those pine > needles > in S. New Jersey woods. > > Gotta get to bed, am in San Diego tonight gotta go to LA (yetch) tomorrow. > Flew in to LAX from PDX this morning drove down to SAN. Did a job now > back to LA for another one. Then home, the only thing I am going to miss > from here is the sun... > > > > On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 11:33 PM, wes <p...@the-wes.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wes, the neighbor that has the connectivity issues, do they have AT > > > coverage on their property? If so I would certainly look into that > > > offering. > > > > > > > > > > > I usually got 1-2 bars of signal strength on my AT phone. I didn't try > > other carriers. I suspect it would be much higher with just a little > > elevation, but he's right on the coast so weather protection is extra > > important. Probably more important than the device used - it could just > be > > a phone with tethering enabled. But the salt gets into everything and > > wrecks and ruins so fast. > > > > I wish he was a neighbor, sadly he's a 6 hour drive away (Gold Beach), > so I > > have to be extra careful about solutions I set up out there. > > > > -wes > > ___ > > PLUG mailing list > > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > > > > -- > > Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT -- > Glass, five thousand years of history and getting better. > The only container material that the USDA gives blanket approval on. > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Backup RPi SD card
> > > > Wes, the neighbor that has the connectivity issues, do they have AT > coverage on their property? If so I would certainly look into that > offering. > > > I usually got 1-2 bars of signal strength on my AT phone. I didn't try other carriers. I suspect it would be much higher with just a little elevation, but he's right on the coast so weather protection is extra important. Probably more important than the device used - it could just be a phone with tethering enabled. But the salt gets into everything and wrecks and ruins so fast. I wish he was a neighbor, sadly he's a 6 hour drive away (Gold Beach), so I have to be extra careful about solutions I set up out there. -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Backup RPi SD card
If you do this, I would be very interested in what equipment you go with and the results. I have a friend who lives in a rural area currently on dial-up because of how awful hughesnet is. I drove around his yard looking for the best cell reception and got myself stuck. luckily it was in a spot that worked! -wes On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 7:05 PM, Chuck Hast <wch...@gmail.com> wrote: > Oh, ok. Yes, I am looking at getting a WX proof modem, something that uses > PoE, and directional antennas, put a shack up on the ridge and use solar or > wind to keep it powered and run the link down to the house using some > fibre. > > Actually put up some sort of tower and mount the whole thing in a WX proof > box, put the radio and antenna up on top of the tower, and hang the box at > the bottom. The power and media converter will be in that box, perhaps an- > other box for the batteries below it. Keep the out gas out of the equipment > box. > > If I can get the AT offer of 250GB for $60/mo I will be very happy as I > am > getting taken to the cleaners with Hughesnet. > > On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 5:06 PM, wes <p...@the-wes.com> wrote: > > > I was referring to your idea of putting an LTE gateway up on a ridge. > Just > > thinking of water and sun protection, nothing extraordinary. > > > > -wes > > > > On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 8:36 AM, Chuck Hast <wch...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Are you talking about ESD or physically protecting the device? The > remote > > > sensors are wireless so a lightning strike would take them out but > > probably > > > not do much to the rest of it unless it comes through the 110v line, or > > the > > > EMP > > > was too high, in that case there just is not much you can do about the > > EMP, > > > it is cheaper to replace the RPi and console that block for the EMP. I > > used > > > to > > > live in lightning prone areas, Costa Rica and Tampa, FL. I have seen my > > > fair > > > share of lightning damage, one thing I learned was to run all long > > network > > > runs as fiber rather than Cat5/6. No issues with EMP with the fiber. > > > > > > The console and RPi are inside the home so they are protected. > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 10:58 PM, wes <p...@the-wes.com> wrote: > > > > > > > What do you plan to use for weather protection? > > > > > > > > -wes > > > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 9:54 PM, Chuck Hast <wch...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Tomás > > > > > Sorry I should have got back on and told you I found it, but the > > > charge > > > > > rate > > > > > is only 1.5 amp, the other unit is 2.0 amp. The RPi doing the WeeWx > > > stuff > > > > > pulls data every 60 seconds, writes to the DB and then sends it out > > to > > > > WU, > > > > > CWOP and Findu.com. When it does that it pulls a wee bit more > current > > > > > that usual. So I am going to give the other unit a try as I have > the > > > PSU > > > > > for > > > > > it. I will also power the Acurite console off of it. If this > works I > > > > have > > > > > a whole > > > > > boat load of places I am going to do that trick. Indeed if we do > not > > > move > > > > > out > > > > > of this place, I am going to put an RPi up on the ridge above the > > > house > > > > > with > > > > > a AT LTE modem on it, AT has an offer of 250GB/mo @ $60/mo or > 500 > > > > > GB/mo @ $100/mo. They just came out with the offer last month, it > is > > > > > directed > > > > > at some states back east, but people are calling and getting the > > > offering > > > > > every- > > > > > where they have put in LTE. At this time I have 50GB @ $110/mo with > > > > Hughes > > > > > net, and they suck royally. So I can put an RPi up on the ridge and > > run > > > > > about > > > > > 500ft of fibre down to the hou
Re: [PLUG] Backup RPi SD card
I was referring to your idea of putting an LTE gateway up on a ridge. Just thinking of water and sun protection, nothing extraordinary. -wes On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 8:36 AM, Chuck Hast <wch...@gmail.com> wrote: > Are you talking about ESD or physically protecting the device? The remote > sensors are wireless so a lightning strike would take them out but probably > not do much to the rest of it unless it comes through the 110v line, or the > EMP > was too high, in that case there just is not much you can do about the EMP, > it is cheaper to replace the RPi and console that block for the EMP. I used > to > live in lightning prone areas, Costa Rica and Tampa, FL. I have seen my > fair > share of lightning damage, one thing I learned was to run all long network > runs as fiber rather than Cat5/6. No issues with EMP with the fiber. > > The console and RPi are inside the home so they are protected. > > > On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 10:58 PM, wes <p...@the-wes.com> wrote: > > > What do you plan to use for weather protection? > > > > -wes > > > > On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 9:54 PM, Chuck Hast <wch...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Tomás > > > Sorry I should have got back on and told you I found it, but the > charge > > > rate > > > is only 1.5 amp, the other unit is 2.0 amp. The RPi doing the WeeWx > stuff > > > pulls data every 60 seconds, writes to the DB and then sends it out to > > WU, > > > CWOP and Findu.com. When it does that it pulls a wee bit more current > > > that usual. So I am going to give the other unit a try as I have the > PSU > > > for > > > it. I will also power the Acurite console off of it. If this works I > > have > > > a whole > > > boat load of places I am going to do that trick. Indeed if we do not > move > > > out > > > of this place, I am going to put an RPi up on the ridge above the > house > > > with > > > a AT LTE modem on it, AT has an offer of 250GB/mo @ $60/mo or 500 > > > GB/mo @ $100/mo. They just came out with the offer last month, it is > > > directed > > > at some states back east, but people are calling and getting the > offering > > > every- > > > where they have put in LTE. At this time I have 50GB @ $110/mo with > > Hughes > > > net, and they suck royally. So I can put an RPi up on the ridge and run > > > about > > > 500ft of fibre down to the house let the RPi handle the cell modem and > > get > > > rid of Hughesnet. Whattavampire they are. That one I will power with > the > > > "kludge" as it will be a much better option there. May even try some > > solar > > > to see how much the batteries will keep up that way. Use an RPi to > > monitor > > > that too. > > > > > > If I get the job I am angling for I will not need to worry about it, > but > > I > > > can > > > always find something for an RPi to do. > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 8:21 PM, Tom <tomas.kuchta.li...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > Follow the second link, scroll down to product description about half > > > > way through the page, and check the Duo-Charge Section: > > > > Product description > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Offer Type:19200mAH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TeckNet PowerTitan T2 19200mAH > External > > > > Battery: > > > > Save time whe
Re: [PLUG] Backup RPi SD card
What do you plan to use for weather protection? -wes On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 9:54 PM, Chuck Hast <wch...@gmail.com> wrote: > Tomás > Sorry I should have got back on and told you I found it, but the charge > rate > is only 1.5 amp, the other unit is 2.0 amp. The RPi doing the WeeWx stuff > pulls data every 60 seconds, writes to the DB and then sends it out to WU, > CWOP and Findu.com. When it does that it pulls a wee bit more current > that usual. So I am going to give the other unit a try as I have the PSU > for > it. I will also power the Acurite console off of it. If this works I have > a whole > boat load of places I am going to do that trick. Indeed if we do not move > out > of this place, I am going to put an RPi up on the ridge above the house > with > a AT LTE modem on it, AT has an offer of 250GB/mo @ $60/mo or 500 > GB/mo @ $100/mo. They just came out with the offer last month, it is > directed > at some states back east, but people are calling and getting the offering > every- > where they have put in LTE. At this time I have 50GB @ $110/mo with Hughes > net, and they suck royally. So I can put an RPi up on the ridge and run > about > 500ft of fibre down to the house let the RPi handle the cell modem and get > rid of Hughesnet. Whattavampire they are. That one I will power with the > "kludge" as it will be a much better option there. May even try some solar > to see how much the batteries will keep up that way. Use an RPi to monitor > that too. > > If I get the job I am angling for I will not need to worry about it, but I > can > always find something for an RPi to do. > > On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 8:21 PM, Tom <tomas.kuchta.li...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Follow the second link, scroll down to product description about half > > way through the page, and check the Duo-Charge Section: > > Product description > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Offer Type:19200mAH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TeckNet PowerTitan T2 19200mAH External > > Battery: > > Save time when charging! > > > > . > > . > > . > > Duo-Charge: > > The Duo-Charge function enables charging of the PowerTitan while it > > recharges a connected device such as an iPhone or iPad. > > ... > > Besides the battery capacity, there does not seem to be functional > > difference between the chargers. Either of them should keep mostly idle > > RPi running for at close to a day. I have 6500mAh USB charger running > > RPi + PWM hat + WiFi dongle + a few sensors on a robot cart for about 8 > > -9-hours straight. The Pi lasts much longer than the other battery pack > > feeding the motors. > > I should have mentioned it in my original post, I thought that it is > > obvious: > > If your RPi consumes close to or more than the charging current max 2A > > (depending on your actual power supply) - about 10% to power the > > charger = ~1800mA --> your battery pack will not recharge after the > > outage. In such case you would have to come up with different UPS > > solution. > > Best luck, Tomas > > On Sun, 2017-04-09 at 19:23 -0700, Chuck Hast wrote: > > > Tomas, > > > The second selection looks more like what I am looking for but the > > > first one > > > will certainly work. But I do not see mention of pass through > > > charging or > > > charge while charging. > > > > > > Went ahead and bought the first selection. > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 6:46 AM, Nat Taylor <biob...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I use something like that second battery to power my pi, it's just > > > > a cell > > > > phone charger, I'm not sure what running it while plugged in does > > > > to it's > > > > life. One could put it on a timer so the power cuts, it drains > > > > the > > > > battery for a while, then charges back up if that was advantageous > > > > for > > > > battery life... > > > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 2:39 AM T
Re: [PLUG] Using ssh-agent and ssh-add
On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Rich Shepard <rshep...@appl-ecosys.com> wrote: > On Thu, 30 Mar 2017, Rich Shepard wrote: > > > My laptops are not always on. When I do fire up one and want to exchange > > files with the desktop each transaction requires my typing my passphrase. > > Can I add ssh-agent and ssh-add to ~/.bash_profile so I need type the > > passphrase only once after booting a host? > >A bit of research tells me that's not practical. But, when I turn on a > portable I can invoke ssh-agent bash followed by ssh-add and the > passphrase. > That will hold it until I shut down the system > >If there's a more efficient way I'd appreciate learning it. > > Rich > well... at the risk of getting bashed by security fans, you could always... not have a passphrase on your ssh key? -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Monitor... dead audio
he did specify that he can send the audio elsewhere, but he likes the Westinghouse monitor's speakers and wants to fix them. personally, I'd verify that it doesn't work with another device first. -wes On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 2:01 AM, benjamin barber <starwor...@gmail.com> wrote: > doesn't the Raspberry Pi have an audio output of its own? > > On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:31 PM, Chuck Hast <wch...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Folks, > > I have a Westinghouse 37" monitor. It has HDMI and if there is audio on > the > > HDMI it should be heard through the speakers on the monitor. This thing > has > > great video, I would like to fix the audio issue if I can, I use the > thing > > with an > > RPi. So far I have hit zero on finding a service manual. > > > > The model is a LVM-37w3se. It has a Westinghouse logo on it and you can > > find the USER manuals all over the 'net, but the service manual shines in > > it's > > absence. > > > > It is great for a traininig monitor and since it does not have the > receiver > > in it > > people are not going to be able to move it to TV channels and use it > when I > > am not around. I guess if the Pi is hooked up to it they could do video > > that > > way but there are ways to defeat that (remove Pi and put in pocket) I was > > using > > it to give my wife some training (she does not like to wear glasses and > > this > > monitor was great for that), but now I have to push audio to an > alternative > > audio device, unit had great audio, it just died. > > > > -- > > > > Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT -- > > Glass, five thousand years of history and getting better. > > The only container material that the USDA gives blanket approval on. > > ___ > > PLUG mailing list > > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] USB to ethernet adapters
On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 2:10 AM, Richard Owlett <rowl...@cloud85.net> wrote: > On 03/20/2017 04:56 PM, Tom wrote: > > I have used the adapter Wes suggested and it works like a charm on > > Linux, and it is good price for $10. > > If you need to buy local (limited choice) and want to be sure that it > > works, why not bring a laptop and try to plug it in it should show as > > a network card. > > Primarily because the way they state their "return policy" I doubt they > would allow it. Secondarily, > 'evidence from you and Wes have for a particular model working' > PLUS 'reports on web that a different model does not' > PLUS 'package labeling saying it is for a specific Apple computer' > EQUALS 'not worth the hassle' > > > Amazon in particular is fanatical about allowing returns for any reason or no reason. -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Network server and client simultaneously on same hardware? Possible? How reasonable?
I don't know how strange your siblings claim you to be, but whatever it is,
you're probably more so.
-wes
On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Richard Owlett <rowl...@cloud85.net> wrote:
> Thank-you wes and Rich.
> So I'm not quite as strange as my siblings claim ;/
>
> On 03/20/2017 03:33 PM, wes wrote:
> > you certainly can. simply point your browser (aka HTTP client) at
> > http://localhost. configure apache (aka HTTP server) to serve the
> desired
> > website with the virtualhost defined as "localhost" and you should be
> good
> > to go.
> >
> > -wes
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 1:24 PM, Richard Owlett <rowl...@cloud85.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >> My Pastor has asked me to administer the church's new website {designed
> >> and hosted by a consultant using WordPress}. I would like to run my own
> >> copy of standard WordPress physically locally for self-education.
> >> Reading wordpress.org, WordPress inherently assumes it is running under
> >> Apache (IIRC). I have an old desktop which physically does not have
> >> ethernet - the reason for another thread. In the meantime, can I run a
> >> client and server simultaneously on my one other operable machine?
> >>
> >> TIA
> >>
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Re: [PLUG] USB to ethernet adapters
On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Richard Owlett <rowl...@cloud85.net> wrote: > On 03/20/2017 03:28 PM, wes wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 12:59 PM, Richard Owlett <rowl...@cloud85.net> > > wrote: > > > >> On 03/19/2017 08:25 AM, David wrote: > >>> On 03/19/2017 05:45 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > >>>> The recent thread about the Lantronix XPort caught my attention. > >>>> A quick search found a variety of USB to ethernet adapters. > >>>> > >>>> I will be visiting a local Staples next week. Their website lists > >> several. > >>>> What should I look for? > >>>> A better question might be "What should I avoid?" > >>>> TIA > >>> > >>> I can't speak for Staples specifically, but I recently bought a laptop > >>> without RJ-45 on-board and successfully used both an old Netgear FA120 > >>> and an Apple USB-RJ45 without any problems. > >> > >> I visited the local Staples. All they stock locally is an Apple product, > >> MC704ll/A. The package label says it is for use with only a Macbook Air. > >> A web search was inconclusive - 1 says can't work, 1 says works fine. > >> > >> Is that the model you have? > >> Should it work easily with Debian Jessie? > >> TIA > >> > >> > >> > > sounds like a lot of extra money for uncertain function. I would be very > > surprised to find that this model won't work on any mainstream linux > > distribution, however I'm not willing to bet $20 on that expectation. > > Nor I ;/ > That is why I asked if it was the model David used. > > >This one: > > https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ET4KHJ2 > > does work on any OS you can dream up. > > It was Amazon and Ebay, from their respective foundings, which > are my primary reason for dealing with with brick-b-mortar vendors. > There is one more local vendor to check. They are now primarily an IT > consultant, but I've been a low volume customer for >20 years, since > they started as a consumer oriented storefront. > don't think I misunderstand; I too strongly prefer a physical presence whenever possible. however it's just not always practical, and paying 300% of the price for that privilege simply doesn't add up after a while. how bout this. I'll mail you my adapter and you can test it out. if you like it, send me $10 and I'll just order another one. if not I dunno, keep it or throw it away and I'll just order another one anyway :) -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Network server and client simultaneously on same hardware? Possible? How reasonable?
you certainly can. simply point your browser (aka HTTP client) at
http://localhost. configure apache (aka HTTP server) to serve the desired
website with the virtualhost defined as "localhost" and you should be good
to go.
-wes
On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 1:24 PM, Richard Owlett <rowl...@cloud85.net> wrote:
> My Pastor has asked me to administer the church's new website {designed
> and hosted by a consultant using WordPress}. I would like to run my own
> copy of standard WordPress physically locally for self-education.
> Reading wordpress.org, WordPress inherently assumes it is running under
> Apache (IIRC). I have an old desktop which physically does not have
> ethernet - the reason for another thread. In the meantime, can I run a
> client and server simultaneously on my one other operable machine?
>
> TIA
>
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Re: [PLUG] USB to ethernet adapters
On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 12:59 PM, Richard Owlett <rowl...@cloud85.net> wrote: > On 03/19/2017 08:25 AM, David wrote: > > On 03/19/2017 05:45 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > >> The recent thread about the Lantronix XPort caught my attention. > >> A quick search found a variety of USB to ethernet adapters. > >> > >> I will be visiting a local Staples next week. Their website lists > several. > >> What should I look for? > >> A better question might be "What should I avoid?" > >> TIA > > > > I can't speak for Staples specifically, but I recently bought a laptop > > without RJ-45 on-board and successfully used both an old Netgear FA120 > > and an Apple USB-RJ45 without any problems. > > I visited the local Staples. All they stock locally is an Apple product, > MC704ll/A. The package label says it is for use with only a Macbook Air. > A web search was inconclusive - 1 says can't work, 1 says works fine. > > Is that the model you have? > Should it work easily with Debian Jessie? > TIA > > > sounds like a lot of extra money for uncertain function. I would be very surprised to find that this model won't work on any mainstream linux distribution, however I'm not willing to bet $20 on that expectation. This one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ET4KHJ2 does work on any OS you can dream up. -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] PLUG Advanced Topics Volunteer?
I can be there to let people in, but my networking skills are largely fictional so I would not want to take on the responsibility of organizing topics or speakers. -wes On Monday, March 20, 2017, Vedanta Teacher <orevedantateac...@gmail.com> wrote: > Everyone, > > 00: What about using the Tuesday evening meeting to > discus any needed changes in PLUG? Sorry for the > simplicity of logic. > > 01: Wes provided access @ FG Sunday so that option > still seems to work. > > 02: I don't "work in the field" so I wouldn't have the necessary > contacts. And working in health care I have wildly unstable > schedules & wouldn't have the necessary availability. > > Blessings, > > Paul W. > > > On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 2:12 AM, Michael Dexter <dex...@ambidexter.com > <javascript:;>> > wrote: > > > On 3/19/17 9:27 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: > > > I could not possibly manage advanced topics because I know so little > > > about the subject. But I wanted to take a moment to thank Michael for > > > all he has done for PLUG! > > > > You are welcome and thank YOU JJJ for your years of help. (Plus the > > great typesetting talk) > > > > Michael Dexter > > PLUG Volunteer > > ___ > > PLUG mailing list > > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org <javascript:;> > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org <javascript:;> > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] CentOS 6.x to CentOS 7.x
It's not just centos, most distros struggle to do major upgrades without a lot of problems. Solving this problem is the major focus of rolling release distros like Gentoo and Arch. -wes On Friday, March 17, 2017, benjamin barber <starwor...@gmail.com> wrote: > I agree with Thomas, upgrading major Centos releases does seem to cause > trouble > > On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 6:09 PM, Thomas Groman <tgrom.autom...@nuegia.net > <javascript:;>> > wrote: > > > I highly discourage you from trying to upgrade major CentOS releases. > > Something always goes wrong. It's also about that time to be upgrading > > everything from scratch when RHEL/CentOS release cycles end. There is > > more than just packages needing to be upgraded. the whole system is > > different. For example; CentOS 6 uses SysV INIT while CentOS 7 uses > > SystemD INIT with compatibility symbolic links for legacy INIT only > > programs. Trust me it is more difficult and time consuming to upgrade a > > CentOS6 box to CentOS 7 than to just start a new CentOS 7 box and > > migrate your stuff over. You don't want be be running EOL software > > especially in a production environment. > > > > > > On 03/16/2017 04:49 PM, Michael Christopher Robinson wrote: > > > I have a custom compiled perl and to update to the last CentOS 6.x > > > packages I have to add --skip-broken. That appears to be working. > > > One concern, > > > > > > [admin@goose yum.repos.d]$ ls -R > > > .: > > > CentOS-Base.repo epel-testing.repomirrors-rpmforge- > > > testing > > > CentOS-Debuginfo.repo error.txtremove > > > CentOS-Media.repo fc6.repo.bak rpmforge.repo > > > CentOS-Vault.repo mirrors-rpmforge > > > epel.repo mirrors-rpmforge-extras > > > > > > ./remove: > > > adobe-linux-x86_64.repo > > > [admin@goose yum.repos.d]$ > > > > > > There are multiple non stock repositories here. How do I find out what > > > non standard packages are installed? I'm hoping that perl-5.18.1 is > > > the only custom compiled and installed package. I can't do an in-place > > > upgrade until I do something about perl and the nonstandard > > > packages? I wish I could build an rpm from the installed perl... > > > ___ > > > PLUG mailing list > > > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org <javascript:;> > > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > > ___ > > PLUG mailing list > > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org <javascript:;> > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org <javascript:;> > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Clinic on Sunday
Reminder, the Linux Clinic is this Sunday, 1-5pm. Bring your ailing systems or questions and we will try to help, or at least get you pointed in a useful direction. Free Geek 1731 SE 10th Ave Portland, OR 97214 -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Fax Server
I'd be interested. -wes On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 3:05 PM, Scott Howard <show...@k-hlaw.com> wrote: > Our fax server that Aaron built for us has died. Is there anyone on the > listserve that would like to build a fax server for us. > > Scott Howard > P.O. Box 40044 > Portland, Oregon. 97240-0044 > T. 503-796-0909 > F. 503-802-4757 > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Seeking opinion on new century link 1G install
> > > I thought all computers, printers and other devices were all going > through the Netgear. How can something that is 192.168.0.1 (the CL > modem) be working on the same network as 192.168.1.x ? > > simple: the device with IP address 192.168.1.1 has a default gateway defined of 192.168.0.1. if it works, great. don't touch it. it's far from ideal, but also far from uncommon. -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Seeking opinion on new century link 1G install
You should remove the Netgear from the network. Once you do that, set your laptop back to 192.168.0.x and everything should work again. -wes On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 8:13 PM, John Jason Jordan <joh...@gmx.com> wrote: > On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 15:24:39 -0800 > John Jason Jordan <joh...@gmx.com> dijo: > > >Alea jacta est. Today I went to the 'store' in Hollywood and signed up. > >(It's not a store, there's no merchandise for sale there, but I didn't > >argue with them.) The 1 GB service is $70 a month, plus 3.99 for a > >'recovery fee,' whatever that is, and installation is free. And I opted > >to lease the modem for the time being, so the total comes to $83.97, > >less $9.99 after I get my own modem. Installation is Tuesday 2/28. > > > >Can't wait to tell Comcast to go suck eggs. > > The installer came today. The appointment was for a window of 10 am to > 2 pm, and at 10:15 he called and said he needed another 45 minutes at > his current job and then he would be here. I thought it was nice of him > to let me know, even though he had no obligation to do so. > > When he arrived we surveyed the layout of the house, the current > Comcast line, and what the best options were. He was very considerate > of my desire to keep my house looking like a house and not a structure > with a web of wires hanging all over it. The decision as to where and > how to install the connection was mutual. And now that it is finished I > am happy to say that it is not very visible. > > I had a lot of issues with the paperwork that I got from the Hollywood > office (a few notes scribbled on the back of a business card) and the > PDF file that came in an e-mail that I didn't receive until yesterday. > There was nothing about data limits, guarantees of speed, and several > other issues. An old lawyer saw is 'if it's not in writing it's not > worth the paper it's printed on.' So this morning I called to cancel the > installation, knowing that this would get me to someone with some > facts. It did, and the gentleman who I spoke to said that the installer > would bring the real contract. And indeed, he did, although it was on > an IPad and the only option was to accept or reject. And the installer > did not bring this to me until after the installation was complete. I > wondered what he would do if I refused. The document was 16 pages long > and it was impossible to digest it fully under the circumstances, but I > did get one fact straight: I can cancel the service anytime in the > first 30 days without penalty, although there are severe cancellation > fees if you cancel after the first 30 days (it's a two-year contract). > So I spent five minutes trying to skim through the legal stuff and then > agreed to it. > > Then, with the installer standing by, the new modem connected and the > router reset, I sat down at my laptop (my main computer) to see if it > all worked. It did, so I opened a Firefox tab to speedtest.net to see > what I would get. I got about 750 down and about 900 up. Not bad > compared to the 55 down and 5-6 up from Comcast. And I should add that > the gentleman I spoke to this morning said that CenturyLink guaranteed > 85% of the rate that I was paying for. I haven't finished reviewing the > contract, so I'm not sure if that is in there. > > Now for the annoying news. My laptop works fine with the new modem, but > I have problems with other devices. The new modem was set to > 192.168.0.1, which is the address that my Netgear R6250 router was > already set to. On encountering the conflict the router graciously > reset itself to 192.168.1.1. This seems to have solved the problem with > the laptop, but my desktop computer was still set to '0', so it was > unable to connect to anything. With the command line I succeeded in > setting the desktop to 192.168.1.1, which succeeded in getting it to > see other devices on my own network, but it still can't get to the > internet. > > Also, my Synology DS216j NAS is apparently still set to '0' and nothing > on the network can see it. Synology has a web-based too for configuring > it, but the tool can't find the Synology because it is still on '0' > when everything else is on '1.' I tried to reset the Netgear to '0' > temporarily in order to fix the Synology, but the Netgear 'Genie' web > based configuration tool allows me no options to change its IP address > manually. The manual says 'click on this' and displays what the screen > is supposed to show, including boxes for manually entering IP addresses, > but when I 'click on this' absolutely nothing happens - the screen > that is supposed to appear does not appear. There must be a way to > change its settings without the tool. I'll call them tomorrow. > > That's enough for
Re: [PLUG] question on Mozilla Firefox holding up Yast2 system admin program
Also, if you could possibly copy/paste the full command and output, or post a screenshot somewhere, that would be most helpful. -wes On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 2:48 PM, Tom <tomas.kuchta.li...@gmail.com> wrote: > I still do not think that what you see is Firefox related. > Are you trying to use Yast2 remotely from another machine? If so, how > do you log in? Ssh/VNC/.? > To give you head start for further follow up, here is little Yast2 > trivia if you run on local machine: > * Yast2 needs to be started as root > * on SuSE, sudo does not forward X traffic, so running: sudo yast2 > will start Yast2 in text (ncurses) mode. You might not like that. > * To get Yast2 to come in X GUI, use following commands: > - become root: su >- start Yast2: yast2 > If you need to run yast on remote machine and want X GUI, The best way > is to use VNC. > Hope it helps, Tomas > On Sat, 2017-02-25 at 12:36 -0800, logical american wrote: > > On 2/23/2017 10:10 AM, wes wrote: > > > I think you're still in "too terse" territory. We are not familiar > > > with any > > > way for Firefox to "block" any other application from opening. What > > > do you > > > actually see when you try to open Yast2 while Firefox is already > > > running? > > Wes: > > > > I went back and checked again. It was the yast2 command which > > failed, > > but because it could NOT open an X-window. Unfortunately the message > > which popped up on my screen indicated that Firefox had blocked the > > command from executing from the CLI terminal window. > > > > This most likely was caused by some gnome interception of the error > > code > > and an attempt to identify the cause. > > > > I understand that the true cause was the inability of yast2 to > > properly > > open up a new popup window. > > > > Thanks for your questions and telling me to be more specific and less > > terse. > > > > - Randall > > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] question on Mozilla Firefox holding up Yast2 system admin program
On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 9:57 AM, logical american <website.read...@gmail.com > wrote: > On 2/22/2017 10:38 PM, Tom wrote: > > Can you describe what do you mean? How is Firefox blocking Yast2? > > Are you: > > a) Downloading some one-click package from OBS expecting Firefox to > > start Yast2? > > b) Starting Yast2 from command line and something tells you that > > Firefox prevents it from running? > sorry about being too terse. > > I was starting Yast2 from the command line, in one gnome terminal > window, but I had another firefox window open already. > > I was totally surprised, when firefox blocked the CLI command from > executing. > > - Randall > I think you're still in "too terse" territory. We are not familiar with any way for Firefox to "block" any other application from opening. What do you actually see when you try to open Yast2 while Firefox is already running? And also, please confirm that opening Yast2 in this way does work when Firefox is not running. -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Other options besides VNC (or RDP)
TeamViewer. It works amazingly well, and is also priced at the level of something that works amazingly well. -wes On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Roderick Anderson <raander...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm looking for any other options to remote into a graphical desktop > besides VNC or RDP. > > I'd like a client that runs on Linux and Android with MAC and Windows a > bonus. Server should run on Linux with Android, MAC and Windows as > another bonus. > > I remember coming across something, while searching for something > compeletely different, but the name now eludes me. Must be a case of > CRS. :-( > > > TIA, > Rod > -- > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG-ANNOUNCE] Clinic on Sunday
Reminder, the Linux Clinic is this Sunday, 1-5pm. Bring your ailing systems or questions and we will try to help, or at least get you pointed in a useful direction. Free Geek 1731 SE 10th Ave Portland, OR 97214 -wes ___ PLUG-announce mailing list PLUG-announce@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce
[PLUG] Clinic on Sunday
Reminder, the Linux Clinic is this Sunday, 1-5pm. Bring your ailing systems or questions and we will try to help, or at least get you pointed in a useful direction. Free Geek 1731 SE 10th Ave Portland, OR 97214 -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Free UPS
I'll take your batteries if you're looking to offload them -wes On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 12:01 AM, Chuck Hast <wch...@gmail.com> wrote: > Rats, wish I had seen that as I need one. I have some batteries that have > time on them but they still have life, would have been easy to put them to > work. > > I wish I had brought a 5KVW unit with me from Tampa, but did not, now I can > use it. > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 8:13 PM, John Jason Jordan <joh...@gmx.com> wrote: > > > On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 17:08:25 -0800 > > John Jason Jordan <joh...@gmx.com> dijo: > > > > Both are spoken for. > > ___ > > PLUG mailing list > > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > > > > -- > > Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT -- > Glass, five thousand years of history and getting better. > The only container material that the USDA gives blanket approval on. > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Clinic
not all of the big vancouver streets are clear, I have found that it's about the same proportion in portland. -wes On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 3:40 PM, Chuck Hast <wch...@gmail.com> wrote: > Funny, the streets up here in WA are all nice and clean... Wonder if that > salt > helps??? The only place I have ice is on my private road to my place, but > all > of the public streets are clear. > > > On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 7:42 PM, John Jason Jordan <joh...@gmx.com> wrote: > > > On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 14:56:38 -0800 > > wes <p...@the-wes.com> dijo: > > > > >I intend to be there for at least the first hour or so. if no one > > >shows up, I may leave. if anyone seeing this does plan to show, please > > >reply so I know to wait for you. > > > > I am planning on being there also, although I will have to rely on > > TriMet. All the streets in my area are sheets of glazed packed snow and > > my only vehicle is a pickup - the worst possible vehicle in snow. > > ___ > > PLUG mailing list > > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > > > > -- > > Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT -- > Glass, five thousand years of history and getting better. > The only container material that the USDA gives blanket approval on. > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Needed: Modern equivalent of a "null-modem cable"
> > > As to "You will then need appropriate file sharing configurations > that will work cross platform." That was one of the reasons I > wasn't going to object to WinXP unilaterly declaring itself Host. > I was expecting "reasonable" error messages that would trigger > the response "Knew I should have ...". > > I use filezilla on windows, both for client and server functions. -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Third Sunday clinic
I plan to be there for at least the beginning. if no one else shows up, I may leave early. -wes On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 6:59 PM, Fillard Spring-Rhyne < fspringrh...@hevanet.com> wrote: > Is PLUG holding its third Sunday clinic as scheduled tomorrow, from > 1:00-5:00pm at Free Geek? > > Thank you! > > Fillard > 503-777-MATH (6284) > > "Letting 49% of the voters go unrepresented is so nineteenth century." > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Clinic
On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 11:35 AM, Rich Shepard <rshep...@appl-ecosys.com> wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jan 2017, John Jason Jordan wrote: > > > I just realized that tomorrow is the third Sunday of January. According > to > > the weather people the snow is not going to melt until Monday night. > > > > Comments? > >Cancel. Don't know about Portland streets but here in east county > (Troutdale, Gresham, etc.) they're quite slippery with packed snow. > >Currently 21F with 27mph winds and gusts to 39mph; wind chill makes > temperature feel like 1-3F this morning. Nothing's melted or ablated since > Wednesday. > > Rich > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > I intend to be there for at least the first hour or so. if no one shows up, I may leave. if anyone seeing this does plan to show, please reply so I know to wait for you. -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Needed: Modern equivalent of a "null-modem cable"
all you need to do is set an IP address on each system. use your google-fu to find out how to do this in the OS running on each of those systems. for example: https://www.google.com/#safe=off=how+to+set+an+ip+address+on+windows+xp https://www.google.com/#safe=off=how+to+set+an+ip+address+on+debian the IP addresses should not be the same on both systems, but they should have the same first 3 sets of numbers. for example: 192.168.1.2 192.168.1.3 -wes On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 6:53 AM, Richard Owlett <rowl...@cloud85.net> wrote: > I suspect what I'm looking for is ONE 3 ft piece of terminated > Cat6 cable ;) > I have two laptops - one (a Lenovo T43) speaks only WinXP Pro, > the other (a Lenovo T430) only Debian Jessie. > Sometime back I attempted to have them communicate via ethernet - > hence the availability of the Cat6 cable. As far as I got was > both sides recognized that electrically the other existed. > My LAN knowledge is ~= "null set". > My non-productive web search turned up only references that > PRESUMED the goal was connecting a multiplicity of devices. I > could not sift the wheat from the chaff. > At power on the WinXP reports as a unconnected ethernet Host. > If it wants to be top dog, so be it. > My goal is to transfer some large data files from the WinXP box > to the Debian box. > Can someone point me to appropriate educational material that is > focused on connecting EXACTLY two computers by exactly one piece > of cable. > There shall be ABSOLUTELY no mention of hubs, routers, switches, etc. > Gee, any hint I'm frustrated ;/ > TIA > > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] [PLUG-ANNOUNCE] Clinic on Sunday
I haven't missed a clinic due to weather yet. the last bad storm in 2008 was interesting but I still went. we'll see what sunday brings us -wes On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 12:37 PM, Vedanta Teacher < orevedantateac...@gmail.com> wrote: > Wes, > 11 January 2017 > >I gave a friend a system in Linux Mint 18.0 and she unknowingly > downloaded > something wrong and now the error "APT get is corrupted" . She may need a > fresh install. > >Having said that there is 1' + of snow today where I live in North > Portland > so I'm not sure she'll make it (I work that day) but I will encourage her > if she > is able. > > The Linux mascot is a Penguin so I bet its good in the snow... > > Blessings, > Paul W. > > On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 10:57 AM, wes <p...@the-wes.com> wrote: > > > Reminder, the Linux Clinic is this Sunday, 1-5pm. Bring your ailing > > systems or questions and we will try to help, or at least get you pointed > > in a useful direction. > > > > Free Geek > > 1731 SE 10th Ave > > Portland, OR 97214 > > -wes > > > > ___ > > PLUG-announce mailing list > > plug-annou...@lists.pdxlinux.org > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce > > > > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Clinic on Sunday
Reminder, the Linux Clinic is this Sunday, 1-5pm. Bring your ailing systems or questions and we will try to help, or at least get you pointed in a useful direction. Free Geek 1731 SE 10th Ave Portland, OR 97214 -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Looking for PC/Main board x686 (could be K7) with 2-3 EISA slots
On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 5:17 PM, Russell Senior <russ...@personaltelco.net> wrote: > >>>>> "Pete" == Pete Lancashire <p...@petelancashire.com> writes: > > Pete> Sadly I've given up on FG. I was looking for a couple 8" DS floppy > Pete> drives, had a request to see if I could recover some CAD > Pete> data. Someone said the same thing so I called FG. Confirmed they > Pete> still had them but they would not sell them to me, had to be > Pete> scrapped, gave some super lame excuses. > > Was the excuse "they are in our museum"? I can't image that they are > still walking in the door in this day and age. I've only seen them > once, in the mid-1980s and they were obsolete then. That was 30 years > ago. > > > I get excuses from them like "we can't spare the staff to research and price every part that comes in" - so they only put a set list of parts in the store and that's all they'll sell. they used to occasionally do a thing called a "parts safari" where you could go in and dive through their boxes of sorted stuff they didn't plan to sell before they sent it off to recycling. it's been a few years since I last heard about it though. -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Sites aimed at fostering wiki CONTENT?
1. being wrong is ok. when you find information that doesn't work for you, but don't have something better to replace it with, you can place a note near it. something like (note: this doesn't work in montana during a full moon). hopefully others will see it and either add to it or correct it. but if they don't know to look, they are less likely to. 2. I think if you stipulate that what you're doing is for a very specific application, perhaps even in the page title itself, it will be more likely to help others with similar goals, and less likely to be clobbered by the mainstream users. in the worst case, your page gets deleted and you will have at least tried. then, if this becomes the recurring pattern in practice, the next logical step may be to set up your own wiki. -wes On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 6:22 AM, Richard Owlett <rowl...@cloud85.net> wrote: > I have asked many questions (some odd;) and have received much > useful feedback. > Some have suggested creating or adding to wiki pages. > For two reasons I hesitate to create/edit a page on an > established wiki (e.g. wiki.debian.org): > > 1. The strong possibility I could have my facts wrong. There have > been cases where I could demonstrate current wiki content was > wrong and have been chided for not changing it myself - it being > a wiki after all. I did not know the correct information &/or > could not see replacing known bad with something with other > unknown errors. > > 2. As to creating new content, I have atypical perspectives. > During the development of content I would need feed back but a > traditional established wiki is open for modification by the > general public. Almost by definition they would edit to conform > to that divergent view. > > I do not have the resources nor expertise to create or administer > such a site. > Characteristics of such a site (roughly in order of importance): > 1. ONLY the author of a page has write access to the page content. > 2. there be some means for publicly readable comments on the > content. > 3. the content should probably be open indexing by search engines. > 4. if possible it should be flagged to not be archived by sites > such as > http://archive.org as one of the goals is to limit the > perpetuation of > erroneous "facts". > > Comments/suggestions? > TIA > > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Clinic on Sunday
Reminder, the Linux Clinic is this Sunday, 1-5pm. Bring your ailing systems or questions and we will try to help, or at least get you pointed in a useful direction. Free Geek 1731 SE 10th Ave Portland, OR 97214 -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Clinic Sunday?
Guh. I forgot to change my "from" address when I sent out the announcement yesterday. Oh well, this thread can serve as adequate notice. -wes On Thursday, November 17, 2016, John Jason Jordan <joh...@comcast.net> wrote: > On Thu, 17 Nov 2016 18:34:03 -0800 (PST) > Rich Shepard <rshep...@appl-ecosys.com <javascript:;>> dijo: > > >If there will be a clinic Sunday I'll bring in a portable needing a > >third hand to install the keyboard. > > Yes, the Clinic will be at Free Geek Sunday 11/20 from 1-5. > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org <javascript:;> > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Where to ask strange Linux questions?
he always gets the "don't do that" sort of answers :) -wes On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Jim Garrison <j...@jhmg.net> wrote: > Any reason you aren't asking your strange questions here? > > -- > Jim Garrison (j...@acm.org) > PGP Keys at http://www.jhmg.net RSA 0x04B73B7F DH 0x70738D88 > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Where to ask strange Linux questions?
On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 1:09 AM, Richard Owlett <rowl...@cloud85.net> wrote: > On 10/27/2016 5:26 PM, wes wrote: > > superuser.com and serverfault.com have a culture similar to what you > > describe. > > Don't know whether to laugh or cry, but no to both ;< > But it does illustrate a recurrent problem, usually classed as > having posed > an "XY Problem". > > May I quote my original post ;/ > "Is there a mailing list or USENET forum with a culture that ..." > > > Avoidance of web based fora was the primary reason for my > carefully chosen > phrasing. Also I suspect the "voting for 'best' answer" aspect > might be > counter-productive. Some of the most useful responses I've > received have been from responses to side issues raised by others > that had a life of their own. Does that make sense? ??? if you limit your sources of information, you limit the information available to you. your reasoning for avoiding these resources is not logical, though that is certainly your right. I hope you find what you're looking for. -wes ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] my printer is out of ink, recommendations for a new printer?
beware that "new printer" price - nowadays they come with "demonstration" ink cartridges which are a fraction of a full cartridge. so you'd be buying new cartridges soon anyway. if I were you, I would take this opportunity to switch to a laser printer. higher up-front cost, lower long term cost. -wes On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 10:48 PM, Russell Senior <russ...@personaltelco.net> wrote: > > The subject line is partly a joke. I have an HP Deskjet 932c, probably > 10 years old or something vaguely like that. The ink cartridges are > about shot (currently blue instead of black, morphing into a red). A > replacement set of ink (HP 78/45) is about $80, which is close to a new > printer. The printer is attached to an Ubuntu box, printing occurs > through CUPS. > > Advice? > > > -- > Russell Senior > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Where to ask strange Linux questions?
superuser.com and serverfault.com have a culture similar to what you describe. you'll still get all the "don't do that" type answers, but you'll also get the "if you really really have to do this, here's how" type as well. the nice thing about it is that it promotes competition between people to give the best possible answer. of course, the flip side of that coin is that asks the person with the question to put a fair amount of effort into asking good questions. I don't see you having a problem with that. -wes On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 7:44 AM, Richard Owlett <rowl...@cloud85.net> wrote: > I ask some carefully phrased questions that get various useless > answers. > > Some recent answers have been: > 1. That is an "XY Problem" > 2. Don't do that. > 3. I know how but won't tell you as someone else may read answer > and carelessly > apply it, resulting in a bollixed system. > I get a chuckle about that one as I was asking how to run > Gnome2 with root > privileges. Jessie MATE allows me to simply login as root. > 4. You are making life difficult for yourself. > *NO*, the system designers have made decisions suitable for > the mythical > "typical"(sic) user. I don't have unlimited infinitely fast > internet nor even > bleeding edge hardware. My vision isn't what is was >50 years > ago. > > Is there a mailing list or USENET forum with a culture that > assumes that: > 1. one actually meant to ask the question as stated. > 2. one is responsible enough to accept that unthinking use of > answers can have > "un-nice" effects ;/ > > I've pretty much settled on Debian, but like some features of > Slackware and Linux from Scratch. > > Thank you. > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
