Re: [PLUG] Issue on laptop w/trackpad disabled
This reminds me of 2012 when they released the unity desktop for 12.04 LTS (the first Unity LTS release, unless I'm forgetting something). Unity adds a lot of keyboard-driven functionality that typically wasn't included in many distros by default. I was at oscon that year, and I stopped by the Ubuntu booth to ask about all these new fancy features. The guy manning their booth was about 19/20 years old (close to my age at the time), and immediately started showing me all these fancy keyboard shortcuts to search files, open apps, the works. At this point I was having trouble keeping up with the key combos, so I asked him "Those shortcuts look cool, but what if I forget the key combinations? Is there a way to pull up a list, like a cheatsheet?" Without saying anything, one of his fingers twitched, and a list of all keyboard shortcuts appeared on the screen. Then he told me, "You can open up a list of all the keyboard shortcuts as a reminder" It is nice to see that here in 2019, 7 years later, Ubuntu still relies on a keyboard shortcut to teach users how to use keyboard shortcuts. On Sun, Jul 7, 2019 at 4:10 PM Denis Heidtmann wrote: > Found it! > super held down launches keyboard short cut list. > super 9 launches system settings, then two tabs followed by four right > arrows gets to Mouse and touchpad icon. > Enter then launches the Mouse and touchpad screen. Then three tabs and > Enter toggles the touchpad on. > Now the touchpad is on, and it can be used as usual. > > Easy when you have the secret pirate treasure map: super 9, 2 tabs, 4 rt. > arrow, enter, 3 tabs, enter. > > On Sun, Jul 7, 2019 at 3:22 PM Ben Koenig wrote: > > > Looks like I need to update my desktop comparison table with the > following: > > +-+ > > | DE | Score | > > +-+ > > | KDE | 1| > > | Ubuntu | 0| > > +-+ > > > > Sorry, I like competition. Gotta compare those pros and cons :) > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 6:44 PM Denis Heidtmann < > denis.heidtm...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Great idea for a keyboard shortcut. But Ubuntu 18.04 does not seem to > > have > > > a default related to the touchpad. I will have to learn how to create > a > > > custom shortcut. > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 8:47 PM Ben Koenig > wrote: > > > > > > > Wow, according to the manual for the x240 there isn't an Fn > > > > combination to enable/disable the touchpad. And now that I look at my > > > > Thinkpad E485... I don't have one either. Maybe that's the new trend. > > > > > > > > Alternatively, you could set a normal keyboard shorcut in your > desktop > > > > of choice. I'm using KDE5 and the default "toggle touchpad" shortcut > > > > works. I assume that other desktops would offer equivalent shortcuts, > > > > which might be what you want to do here. I'm using +t as a > > > > touchpad toggle. > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 6:24 PM Fred James > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Denis Heidtmann wrote: > > > > > > On my Lenovo X240 I have the trackpad disabled because my errant > > > thumbs > > > > > > have a nasty tendency to move the pointer around unwittingly. I > > use > > > a > > > > > > wireless USB mouse, which is always fine. Except if the mouse > were > > > to > > > > > > fail, I have no way to do anything, including saving, shutting > > down, > > > or > > > > > > other recoveries. This has not happened, but I have tested it > and > > > have > > > > > > found no solutions. The track pointer still moves the cursor, > but > > > > there is > > > > > > no way to "click". The function keys do not include access to > the > > > > track > > > > > > pad. Any suggestions for a recovery should I have a failure? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > -Denis > > > > > I am thinking maybe keep a USB mouse on hand (not wireless) ... I > am > > > > > thinking that by switching to that, the box should see it and be > able > > > to > > > > > use it? I am seeing USB meeses for less than $15. > > > > > Hope that helps > > > > > Regards > > > > > Fred James > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > PLUG mailing list > > > > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > > > > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > > ___ > > > > PLUG mailing list > > > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > > > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > > > > > ___ > > > PLUG mailing list > > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > > > ___ > > PLUG mailing list > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org
Re: [PLUG] Issue on laptop w/trackpad disabled
Found it! super held down launches keyboard short cut list. super 9 launches system settings, then two tabs followed by four right arrows gets to Mouse and touchpad icon. Enter then launches the Mouse and touchpad screen. Then three tabs and Enter toggles the touchpad on. Now the touchpad is on, and it can be used as usual. Easy when you have the secret pirate treasure map: super 9, 2 tabs, 4 rt. arrow, enter, 3 tabs, enter. On Sun, Jul 7, 2019 at 3:22 PM Ben Koenig wrote: > Looks like I need to update my desktop comparison table with the following: > +-+ > | DE | Score | > +-+ > | KDE | 1| > | Ubuntu | 0| > +-+ > > Sorry, I like competition. Gotta compare those pros and cons :) > > > On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 6:44 PM Denis Heidtmann > wrote: > > > Great idea for a keyboard shortcut. But Ubuntu 18.04 does not seem to > have > > a default related to the touchpad. I will have to learn how to create a > > custom shortcut. > > > > On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 8:47 PM Ben Koenig wrote: > > > > > Wow, according to the manual for the x240 there isn't an Fn > > > combination to enable/disable the touchpad. And now that I look at my > > > Thinkpad E485... I don't have one either. Maybe that's the new trend. > > > > > > Alternatively, you could set a normal keyboard shorcut in your desktop > > > of choice. I'm using KDE5 and the default "toggle touchpad" shortcut > > > works. I assume that other desktops would offer equivalent shortcuts, > > > which might be what you want to do here. I'm using +t as a > > > touchpad toggle. > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 6:24 PM Fred James > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Denis Heidtmann wrote: > > > > > On my Lenovo X240 I have the trackpad disabled because my errant > > thumbs > > > > > have a nasty tendency to move the pointer around unwittingly. I > use > > a > > > > > wireless USB mouse, which is always fine. Except if the mouse were > > to > > > > > fail, I have no way to do anything, including saving, shutting > down, > > or > > > > > other recoveries. This has not happened, but I have tested it and > > have > > > > > found no solutions. The track pointer still moves the cursor, but > > > there is > > > > > no way to "click". The function keys do not include access to the > > > track > > > > > pad. Any suggestions for a recovery should I have a failure? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > -Denis > > > > I am thinking maybe keep a USB mouse on hand (not wireless) ... I am > > > > thinking that by switching to that, the box should see it and be able > > to > > > > use it? I am seeing USB meeses for less than $15. > > > > Hope that helps > > > > Regards > > > > Fred James > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > PLUG mailing list > > > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > > > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > ___ > > > PLUG mailing list > > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > > > ___ > > PLUG mailing list > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Issue on laptop w/trackpad disabled
Looks like I need to update my desktop comparison table with the following: +-+ | DE | Score | +-+ | KDE | 1| | Ubuntu | 0| +-+ Sorry, I like competition. Gotta compare those pros and cons :) On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 6:44 PM Denis Heidtmann wrote: > Great idea for a keyboard shortcut. But Ubuntu 18.04 does not seem to have > a default related to the touchpad. I will have to learn how to create a > custom shortcut. > > On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 8:47 PM Ben Koenig wrote: > > > Wow, according to the manual for the x240 there isn't an Fn > > combination to enable/disable the touchpad. And now that I look at my > > Thinkpad E485... I don't have one either. Maybe that's the new trend. > > > > Alternatively, you could set a normal keyboard shorcut in your desktop > > of choice. I'm using KDE5 and the default "toggle touchpad" shortcut > > works. I assume that other desktops would offer equivalent shortcuts, > > which might be what you want to do here. I'm using +t as a > > touchpad toggle. > > > > On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 6:24 PM Fred James > > wrote: > > > > > > Denis Heidtmann wrote: > > > > On my Lenovo X240 I have the trackpad disabled because my errant > thumbs > > > > have a nasty tendency to move the pointer around unwittingly. I use > a > > > > wireless USB mouse, which is always fine. Except if the mouse were > to > > > > fail, I have no way to do anything, including saving, shutting down, > or > > > > other recoveries. This has not happened, but I have tested it and > have > > > > found no solutions. The track pointer still moves the cursor, but > > there is > > > > no way to "click". The function keys do not include access to the > > track > > > > pad. Any suggestions for a recovery should I have a failure? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > -Denis > > > I am thinking maybe keep a USB mouse on hand (not wireless) ... I am > > > thinking that by switching to that, the box should see it and be able > to > > > use it? I am seeing USB meeses for less than $15. > > > Hope that helps > > > Regards > > > Fred James > > > > > > ___ > > > PLUG mailing list > > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > ___ > > PLUG mailing list > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Issue on laptop w/trackpad disabled
Great idea for a keyboard shortcut. But Ubuntu 18.04 does not seem to have a default related to the touchpad. I will have to learn how to create a custom shortcut. On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 8:47 PM Ben Koenig wrote: > Wow, according to the manual for the x240 there isn't an Fn > combination to enable/disable the touchpad. And now that I look at my > Thinkpad E485... I don't have one either. Maybe that's the new trend. > > Alternatively, you could set a normal keyboard shorcut in your desktop > of choice. I'm using KDE5 and the default "toggle touchpad" shortcut > works. I assume that other desktops would offer equivalent shortcuts, > which might be what you want to do here. I'm using +t as a > touchpad toggle. > > On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 6:24 PM Fred James > wrote: > > > > Denis Heidtmann wrote: > > > On my Lenovo X240 I have the trackpad disabled because my errant thumbs > > > have a nasty tendency to move the pointer around unwittingly. I use a > > > wireless USB mouse, which is always fine. Except if the mouse were to > > > fail, I have no way to do anything, including saving, shutting down, or > > > other recoveries. This has not happened, but I have tested it and have > > > found no solutions. The track pointer still moves the cursor, but > there is > > > no way to "click". The function keys do not include access to the > track > > > pad. Any suggestions for a recovery should I have a failure? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > -Denis > > I am thinking maybe keep a USB mouse on hand (not wireless) ... I am > > thinking that by switching to that, the box should see it and be able to > > use it? I am seeing USB meeses for less than $15. > > Hope that helps > > Regards > > Fred James > > > > ___ > > PLUG mailing list > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Issue on laptop w/trackpad disabled
On Thu, 4 Jul 2019, Denis Heidtmann wrote: Any suggestions for a recovery should I have a failure? Denis, Buy a small wired mouse. They come with thin cords on a spring-loaded reel. Pull out as much as you need. When finished pull slightly to release the lock and let the spring rewind the cord. I've two of them that I use with my laptops. Batteries not required. :-) Rich ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Issue on laptop w/trackpad disabled
Wow, according to the manual for the x240 there isn't an Fn combination to enable/disable the touchpad. And now that I look at my Thinkpad E485... I don't have one either. Maybe that's the new trend. Alternatively, you could set a normal keyboard shorcut in your desktop of choice. I'm using KDE5 and the default "toggle touchpad" shortcut works. I assume that other desktops would offer equivalent shortcuts, which might be what you want to do here. I'm using +t as a touchpad toggle. On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 6:24 PM Fred James wrote: > > Denis Heidtmann wrote: > > On my Lenovo X240 I have the trackpad disabled because my errant thumbs > > have a nasty tendency to move the pointer around unwittingly. I use a > > wireless USB mouse, which is always fine. Except if the mouse were to > > fail, I have no way to do anything, including saving, shutting down, or > > other recoveries. This has not happened, but I have tested it and have > > found no solutions. The track pointer still moves the cursor, but there is > > no way to "click". The function keys do not include access to the track > > pad. Any suggestions for a recovery should I have a failure? > > > > Thanks, > > -Denis > I am thinking maybe keep a USB mouse on hand (not wireless) ... I am > thinking that by switching to that, the box should see it and be able to > use it? I am seeing USB meeses for less than $15. > Hope that helps > Regards > Fred James > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Issue on laptop w/trackpad disabled
Denis Heidtmann wrote: On my Lenovo X240 I have the trackpad disabled because my errant thumbs have a nasty tendency to move the pointer around unwittingly. I use a wireless USB mouse, which is always fine. Except if the mouse were to fail, I have no way to do anything, including saving, shutting down, or other recoveries. This has not happened, but I have tested it and have found no solutions. The track pointer still moves the cursor, but there is no way to "click". The function keys do not include access to the track pad. Any suggestions for a recovery should I have a failure? Thanks, -Denis I am thinking maybe keep a USB mouse on hand (not wireless) ... I am thinking that by switching to that, the box should see it and be able to use it? I am seeing USB meeses for less than $15. Hope that helps Regards Fred James ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Issue on laptop w/trackpad disabled
On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 8:07 PM Denis Heidtmann wrote: > > On my Lenovo X240 I have the trackpad disabled because my errant thumbs > have a nasty tendency to move the pointer around unwittingly. I use a > wireless USB mouse, which is always fine. Except if the mouse were to > fail, I have no way to do anything, including saving, shutting down, or > other recoveries. This has not happened, but I have tested it and have > found no solutions. The track pointer still moves the cursor, but there is > no way to "click". The function keys do not include access to the track > pad. Any suggestions for a recovery should I have a failure? > Some of the Lenovos have a FN key like FN+8 to toggle the keypad. I don't know about the X240. https://www.microcenter.com/tech_center/article/6645/how-to-enable-the-touchpad-on-a-lenovo-ideapad-z400 Bill > Thanks, > -Denis > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Issue on laptop w/trackpad disabled
On my Lenovo X240 I have the trackpad disabled because my errant thumbs have a nasty tendency to move the pointer around unwittingly. I use a wireless USB mouse, which is always fine. Except if the mouse were to fail, I have no way to do anything, including saving, shutting down, or other recoveries. This has not happened, but I have tested it and have found no solutions. The track pointer still moves the cursor, but there is no way to "click". The function keys do not include access to the track pad. Any suggestions for a recovery should I have a failure? Thanks, -Denis ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
