Re: ot: problems
Sure, a bad power supply will not only affect the fans but it can affect everything in the computer! What do you think? The power supply failed because it got too hot because the cooling fan did not do it's job? Maybe. But you won't be able to diagnose the fan or other failures until you determine the status of the power supply. Considering that you have seen multiple symptoms, it could point to either the power supply or the motherboard. The easiest way I can think of to diagnose the power supply is to trade power supplies with a duplicate quad system quad and see if the symptoms move to the duplicate quad system. If not, then the motherboard becomes suspect. I'm saying duplicate quad because quads draw the most power and the failure should be obvious on the duplicate. Otherwise if the symptoms did not show up on either system, then the diagnosis would be in doubt because it could be a power supply cable or connector and the exchange fixed the problem, possibly only temporarily (time will tell). On the other hand, if you just buy a duplicate (make sure it's for a quad) power supply and exchange the supplies, you won't be sure that the old power supply was bad or that you just fixed a cable problem - assuming you haven't ruled out the cable/connector at fault. I've seen power supplies on ebay for about $100 in the past but make sure the dealer is reputable whatever you pay - if you go that way. There's a fellow in Florida who repairs motherboards for PC's for $169 but I don't know if he does Mac motherboards and you have to pay postage to ship the board to him. (Pack it well and insure it!) If you replace the power supply and still have the symptoms, then can you return the extra power supply? Anyway, if you can boot and run, try the Apple hardware diagnostics if you have the DVD. Or if you have a copy of Tech Tool (Pro) try to boot that. It takes a while to boot because it does so with it's own system without violating Apple's copyrights, etc. I know Tech Tool Pro is stand alone and tests all the hardware because I use it. Since my Mac G5 is down, I don't know if it tests the power supply, but it should. Jon On 09/18/2014 09:35 PM, Michael Havens wrote: so the power supply will affect the cooling fan? If so this might be an easy fix. What about the internet switch? That was the first thing that failed. :-)~MIKE~(-: On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Jon Kettenhofen s...@kexsof.com mailto:s...@kexsof.com wrote: Michael, BTW, Apple publishes a hardware diagnostic CD or DVD, in fact it may be on the original install DVDs that came with the machine. If you can boot the machine, see if you can run the diagnostics. Jon On 09/18/2014 02:08 PM, Michael Havens wrote: Thefirst thing I di was to stick the live cd in. That didn't fix a thing plus that doesn't take care of the cooling fan issue. did I tell you I get that notice right before bios takes over? :-)~MIKE~(-: On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Stephen Partington cryptwo...@gmail.com mailto:cryptwo...@gmail.com mailto:cryptwo...@gmail.com mailto:cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: Have you tried a live CD of any flavor to see if it persists? On Sep 18, 2014 8:35 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com mailto:bmi...@gmail.com mailto:bmi...@gmail.com mailto:bmi...@gmail.com wrote: when the keybosrd problem stsrted about 6 months ago getting another keyboard was the first thing I did and there was no problem with it when I attached an external keyboard. You mentioned smoking being a problem? I've never done that. You wondered about the distro? I run Linux Mint. :-)~MIKE~(-: On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 6:08 AM, Lisa Kachold foo...@it-clowns.com mailto:foo...@it-clowns.com mailto:foo...@it-clowns.com mailto:foo...@it-clowns.com wrote: Hi Mike, In order to work with the technician effectively, you are going to want to be closely involved with the work process. In this respect, you will ask him what he thinks the problem is, or what his first actions are, for instance if he recommends a full diagnostic. But first, I would do some diagnostics myself before taking your equipment to the technician. IT IS A GOOD POSSIBILITY THAT THIS IS DUE TO MORE THAN ONE CAUSE (but all related to your distro or drivers)! If you are SMOKING or exposing the laptop to soot of any kind, you will want to clean the laptop completely
Ok - OnePlus invites available
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Re: Ok - OnePlus invites available
One left! On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Shawn Badger sh...@badger.pro wrote: Can I get one please? On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 5:36 AM, Stephen Partington cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: I have some OnePlus invites to share. Phone is 100% att and t-mobile compatible. For more http://oneplus.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Ok - OnePlus invites available
Dibs! :-) On Sep 19, 2014 7:32 AM, Stephen Partington cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: One left! On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Shawn Badger sh...@badger.pro wrote: Can I get one please? On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 5:36 AM, Stephen Partington cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: I have some OnePlus invites to share. Phone is 100% att and t-mobile compatible. For more http://oneplus.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Ok - OnePlus invites available
Thank you!! On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Stephen Partington cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: One left! On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Shawn Badger sh...@badger.pro wrote: Can I get one please? On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 5:36 AM, Stephen Partington cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: I have some OnePlus invites to share. Phone is 100% att and t-mobile compatible. For more http://oneplus.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Ok - OnePlus invites available
All gone! On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Shawn Badger sh...@badger.pro wrote: Thank you!! On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Stephen Partington cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: One left! On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Shawn Badger sh...@badger.pro wrote: Can I get one please? On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 5:36 AM, Stephen Partington cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: I have some OnePlus invites to share. Phone is 100% att and t-mobile compatible. For more http://oneplus.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: ot: problems
thanks, Jon. I think I'll take it in. I get the fan warning and the internet switch still will not turn on when I'm running it off of the battery. :-)~MIKE~(-: On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Jon Kettenhofen s...@kexsof.com wrote: Sure, a bad power supply will not only affect the fans but it can affect everything in the computer! What do you think? The power supply failed because it got too hot because the cooling fan did not do it's job? Maybe. But you won't be able to diagnose the fan or other failures until you determine the status of the power supply. Considering that you have seen multiple symptoms, it could point to either the power supply or the motherboard. The easiest way I can think of to diagnose the power supply is to trade power supplies with a duplicate quad system quad and see if the symptoms move to the duplicate quad system. If not, then the motherboard becomes suspect. I'm saying duplicate quad because quads draw the most power and the failure should be obvious on the duplicate. Otherwise if the symptoms did not show up on either system, then the diagnosis would be in doubt because it could be a power supply cable or connector and the exchange fixed the problem, possibly only temporarily (time will tell). On the other hand, if you just buy a duplicate (make sure it's for a quad) power supply and exchange the supplies, you won't be sure that the old power supply was bad or that you just fixed a cable problem - assuming you haven't ruled out the cable/connector at fault. I've seen power supplies on ebay for about $100 in the past but make sure the dealer is reputable whatever you pay - if you go that way. There's a fellow in Florida who repairs motherboards for PC's for $169 but I don't know if he does Mac motherboards and you have to pay postage to ship the board to him. (Pack it well and insure it!) If you replace the power supply and still have the symptoms, then can you return the extra power supply? Anyway, if you can boot and run, try the Apple hardware diagnostics if you have the DVD. Or if you have a copy of Tech Tool (Pro) try to boot that. It takes a while to boot because it does so with it's own system without violating Apple's copyrights, etc. I know Tech Tool Pro is stand alone and tests all the hardware because I use it. Since my Mac G5 is down, I don't know if it tests the power supply, but it should. Jon On 09/18/2014 09:35 PM, Michael Havens wrote: so the power supply will affect the cooling fan? If so this might be an easy fix. What about the internet switch? That was the first thing that failed. :-)~MIKE~(-: On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Jon Kettenhofen s...@kexsof.com mailto:s...@kexsof.com wrote: Michael, BTW, Apple publishes a hardware diagnostic CD or DVD, in fact it may be on the original install DVDs that came with the machine. If you can boot the machine, see if you can run the diagnostics. Jon On 09/18/2014 02:08 PM, Michael Havens wrote: Thefirst thing I di was to stick the live cd in. That didn't fix a thing plus that doesn't take care of the cooling fan issue. did I tell you I get that notice right before bios takes over? :-)~MIKE~(-: On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Stephen Partington cryptwo...@gmail.com mailto:cryptwo...@gmail.com mailto:cryptwo...@gmail.com mailto:cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: Have you tried a live CD of any flavor to see if it persists? On Sep 18, 2014 8:35 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com mailto:bmi...@gmail.com mailto:bmi...@gmail.com mailto:bmi...@gmail.com wrote: when the keybosrd problem stsrted about 6 months ago getting another keyboard was the first thing I did and there was no problem with it when I attached an external keyboard. You mentioned smoking being a problem? I've never done that. You wondered about the distro? I run Linux Mint. :-)~MIKE~(-: On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 6:08 AM, Lisa Kachold foo...@it-clowns.com mailto:foo...@it-clowns.com mailto:foo...@it-clowns.com mailto:foo...@it-clowns.com wrote: Hi Mike, In order to work with the technician effectively, you are going to want to be closely involved with the work process. In this respect, you will ask him what he thinks the problem is, or what his first actions are, for instance if he recommends a full diagnostic. But first, I would do some diagnostics myself before taking your equipment to the technician. IT IS A GOOD
RE: ot: problems
On the multimeter thing - if you happen to get a coupon for a free multimeter from Harbor Freight that's your cheapest possible meter, and according to a friend its not a bad meter. If you want to buy it I think its under $10, but I'm not sure. In addition, Lowes, Home Depot, Radio Shack, Fry's, and that computer store on Country Club near Main in Mesa all should have meters as well. As well as all your online options and whatever other local attractions I've forgotten ... oh, I bet 'the candy store' (Ham Radio Outlet) has meters too. ;-) And a meter that works is generally handy for all sorts of things anyway, so at least one meter is highly recommended... Rusty --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: ot: problems
thanks for the suggestion. I got one:) :-)~MIKE~(-: On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 8:35 AM, Carruth, Rusty ru...@smartm.com wrote: On the multimeter thing - if you happen to get a coupon for a free multimeter from Harbor Freight that's your cheapest possible meter, and according to a friend its not a bad meter. If you want to buy it I think its under $10, but I'm not sure. In addition, Lowes, Home Depot, Radio Shack, Fry's, and that computer store on Country Club near Main in Mesa all should have meters as well. As well as all your online options and whatever other local attractions I've forgotten ... oh, I bet 'the candy store' (Ham Radio Outlet) has meters too. ;-) And a meter that works is generally handy for all sorts of things anyway, so at least one meter is highly recommended... Rusty --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
what I heard... is it true?
I read on another board that it was bad to leave a laptop on 24/7 Is that so? If it is I guess that is why my laptop is having problems! :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Ok - OnePlus invites available
Awesome sauce, thanks! On Sep 19, 2014 8:27 AM, Stephen Partington cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: All gone! On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Shawn Badger sh...@badger.pro wrote: Thank you!! On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Stephen Partington cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: One left! On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Shawn Badger sh...@badger.pro wrote: Can I get one please? On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 5:36 AM, Stephen Partington cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: I have some OnePlus invites to share. Phone is 100% att and t-mobile compatible. For more http://oneplus.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Ok - OnePlus invites available
Enjoy your devices, I have been loving mine. On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 9:41 AM, AZ RUNE arizona.r...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome sauce, thanks! On Sep 19, 2014 8:27 AM, Stephen Partington cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: All gone! On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Shawn Badger sh...@badger.pro wrote: Thank you!! On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Stephen Partington cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: One left! On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Shawn Badger sh...@badger.pro wrote: Can I get one please? On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 5:36 AM, Stephen Partington cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: I have some OnePlus invites to share. Phone is 100% att and t-mobile compatible. For more http://oneplus.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: what I heard... is it true?
At one time this was very true, and in some ways it can still be true. parts like the fans wear out, and due to the space constraints in a laptop this is more critical, and there are some thermal considerations to think about as well. but as long as you are giving decent airflow around the laptop, and you are prepared to swap a fan sooner than later it should have no real impact on the hardware. I run mine for work 9+ hours straight and the previous one i had did this for 4.4 years before it finally got weird enough to be replaced. I would most definitely enable power savings on your monitor because that screan can suffer from burnout, and its not as easy to replace as a monitor. On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I read on another board that it was bad to leave a laptop on 24/7 Is that so? If it is I guess that is why my laptop is having problems! :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: what I heard... is it true?
That explains the fan but not the internet switch. :-)~MIKE~(-: On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Stephen Partington cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: At one time this was very true, and in some ways it can still be true. parts like the fans wear out, and due to the space constraints in a laptop this is more critical, and there are some thermal considerations to think about as well. but as long as you are giving decent airflow around the laptop, and you are prepared to swap a fan sooner than later it should have no real impact on the hardware. I run mine for work 9+ hours straight and the previous one i had did this for 4.4 years before it finally got weird enough to be replaced. I would most definitely enable power savings on your monitor because that screan can suffer from burnout, and its not as easy to replace as a monitor. On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I read on another board that it was bad to leave a laptop on 24/7 Is that so? If it is I guess that is why my laptop is having problems! :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: what I heard... is it true?
Well that could simply be the fact that they used substandard capacitors and part for the ethernet, and as such it failed over time. manufactures consider laptops to be pretty disposable after 2-3 years, any older and they tend to get squirrely. On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: That explains the fan but not the internet switch. :-)~MIKE~(-: On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Stephen Partington cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: At one time this was very true, and in some ways it can still be true. parts like the fans wear out, and due to the space constraints in a laptop this is more critical, and there are some thermal considerations to think about as well. but as long as you are giving decent airflow around the laptop, and you are prepared to swap a fan sooner than later it should have no real impact on the hardware. I run mine for work 9+ hours straight and the previous one i had did this for 4.4 years before it finally got weird enough to be replaced. I would most definitely enable power savings on your monitor because that screan can suffer from burnout, and its not as easy to replace as a monitor. On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I read on another board that it was bad to leave a laptop on 24/7 Is that so? If it is I guess that is why my laptop is having problems! :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: what I heard... is it true?
I have a laptop that is on 14 - 16 hours a day everyday for maybe 4 years. I took the battery out of it long ago in the hopes of salvaging it. No problems so far with either the battery or the laptop. I hear about all the hardware failures... I have been blessed not to experience but a couple in 26 years. I often wonder if most hardware failures are due to unfiltered power. I use Tripp Light Isobars. Any thoughts on this? On 2014-09-19 11:53, Stephen Partington wrote: At one time this was very true, and in some ways it can still be true. parts like the fans wear out, and due to the space constraints in a laptop this is more critical, and there are some thermal considerations to think about as well. but as long as you are giving decent airflow around the laptop, and you are prepared to swap a fan sooner than later it should have no real impact on the hardware. I run mine for work 9+ hours straight and the previous one i had did this for 4.4 years before it finally got weird enough to be replaced. I would most definitely enable power savings on your monitor because that screan can suffer from burnout, and its not as easy to replace as a monitor. On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I read on another board that it was bad to leave a laptop on 24/7 Is that so? If it is I guess that is why my laptop is having problems! :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen Links: -- [1] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: what I heard... is it true?
I hope to get more than 3 out of mine. On 2014-09-19 13:08, Stephen Partington wrote: Well that could simply be the fact that they used substandard capacitors and part for the ethernet, and as such it failed over time. manufactures consider laptops to be pretty disposable after 2-3 years, any older and they tend to get squirrely. On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: That explains the fan but not the internet switch. :-)~MIKE~(-: On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Stephen Partington cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: At one time this was very true, and in some ways it can still be true. parts like the fans wear out, and due to the space constraints in a laptop this is more critical, and there are some thermal considerations to think about as well. but as long as you are giving decent airflow around the laptop, and you are prepared to swap a fan sooner than later it should have no real impact on the hardware. I run mine for work 9+ hours straight and the previous one i had did this for 4.4 years before it finally got weird enough to be replaced. I would most definitely enable power savings on your monitor because that screan can suffer from burnout, and its not as easy to replace as a monitor. On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I read on another board that it was bad to leave a laptop on 24/7 Is that so? If it is I guess that is why my laptop is having problems! :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen Links: -- [1] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: what I heard... is it true?
Tripp Light Isobars. is that a type of power strip? :-)~MIKE~(-: On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 11:51 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: I hope to get more than 3 out of mine. On 2014-09-19 13:08, Stephen Partington wrote: Well that could simply be the fact that they used substandard capacitors and part for the ethernet, and as such it failed over time. manufactures consider laptops to be pretty disposable after 2-3 years, any older and they tend to get squirrely. On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: That explains the fan but not the internet switch. :-)~MIKE~(-: On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Stephen Partington cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: At one time this was very true, and in some ways it can still be true. parts like the fans wear out, and due to the space constraints in a laptop this is more critical, and there are some thermal considerations to think about as well. but as long as you are giving decent airflow around the laptop, and you are prepared to swap a fan sooner than later it should have no real impact on the hardware. I run mine for work 9+ hours straight and the previous one i had did this for 4.4 years before it finally got weird enough to be replaced. I would most definitely enable power savings on your monitor because that screan can suffer from burnout, and its not as easy to replace as a monitor. On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I read on another board that it was bad to leave a laptop on 24/7 Is that so? If it is I guess that is why my laptop is having problems! :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen Links: -- [1] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: what I heard... is it true?
I've been using these since the early 90's http://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-ISOBAR8ULTRA-Isobar-Protector/dp/B511U7/ref=pd_sim_pc_3?ie=UTF8refRID=15XC2HF1XSAX68KHCHRV Not cheap however I suspect they add to the longevity of my equipment. The transformer outside my house exploded one afternoon 12 or so years ago and my computer survived it. On 2014-09-19 15:08, Michael Havens wrote: Tripp Light Isobars. is that a type of power strip? :-)~MIKE~(-: On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 11:51 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: I hope to get more than 3 out of mine. On 2014-09-19 13:08, Stephen Partington wrote: Well that could simply be the fact that they used substandard capacitors and part for the ethernet, and as such it failed over time. manufactures consider laptops to be pretty disposable after 2-3 years, any older and they tend to get squirrely. On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: That explains the fan but not the internet switch. :-)~MIKE~(-: On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Stephen Partington cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: At one time this was very true, and in some ways it can still be true. parts like the fans wear out, and due to the space constraints in a laptop this is more critical, and there are some thermal considerations to think about as well. but as long as you are giving decent airflow around the laptop, and you are prepared to swap a fan sooner than later it should have no real impact on the hardware. I run mine for work 9+ hours straight and the previous one i had did this for 4.4 years before it finally got weird enough to be replaced. I would most definitely enable power savings on your monitor because that screan can suffer from burnout, and its not as easy to replace as a monitor. On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I read on another board that it was bad to leave a laptop on 24/7 Is that so? If it is I guess that is why my laptop is having problems! :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] [1] -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] [1] --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] [1] -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen Links: -- [1] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] Links: -- [1] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Don't forget - Installfest this Saturday at Gangplank
The PLUG/AzLoco installfest is this Saturday from 10am to 4pm. Note that it is held at Gangplank (http://gangplankhq.com/chandler/) 260 S Arizona Ave Chandler, AZ 85225 Free Public parking just across the street next to Circle K. GPParking 1 300x191 Chandler, Arizona http://gangplankhq.com/wp-content/uploads/GPParking-1.jpg Walter Mack --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: ot: problems
here is a question... if I had a power surge why was only 1 computer`affected of the 4 in my house. one other rhing it is the only one connected to the internet wirelessly. :-)~MIKE~(-: On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: thanks for the suggestion. I got one:) :-)~MIKE~(-: On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 8:35 AM, Carruth, Rusty ru...@smartm.com wrote: On the multimeter thing - if you happen to get a coupon for a free multimeter from Harbor Freight that's your cheapest possible meter, and according to a friend its not a bad meter. If you want to buy it I think its under $10, but I'm not sure. In addition, Lowes, Home Depot, Radio Shack, Fry's, and that computer store on Country Club near Main in Mesa all should have meters as well. As well as all your online options and whatever other local attractions I've forgotten ... oh, I bet 'the candy store' (Ham Radio Outlet) has meters too. ;-) And a meter that works is generally handy for all sorts of things anyway, so at least one meter is highly recommended... Rusty --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
