Re: How do I take a partial screenshot in KDE?

2022-11-17 Thread Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss
Another nice screen shot utility under linux I was using for a bit is
flameshot.  It's rather nice, feels a bit heavier than I need so I tend to
just use spectacle mostly.

-mb

On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 1:20 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

>
> Cool, Thanks!!
>
>
>
> On 2022-11-17 12:57, Aaron Jones via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> > scrot -s
> >
> > You then just highlight what you want a pic of.
> >
> >> On Nov 17, 2022, at 12:50, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >> Thank You Rusty!!
> >>
> >>> On 2022-11-17 12:46, Rusty Carruth via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> >>> If you don't mind a heavy application, I use GIMP for this (on
> >>> WIndblows and Linux, but on W you can't do capture region).
>  On 11/17/22 09:15, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>  Thanks Michael!!
>  On 2022-11-10 20:11, Michael Butash wrote:
> > In Spectacle, set the Capture Mode Area to rectangular region, then
> > you can play with delay if you need to click on something then
> > shoot
> > it in a few seconds.
> > Works like a champ usually, I use it mostly every day.
> > -mb
> > On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 7:08 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
> >  wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> I am running Kubuntu 22.04.
> >> I would like to be able to take a snippet (specific region) of my
> >> screen, not the entire screen.
> >> My research shows that I can use spectacle take a screen shot,
> >> however I
> >> am not finding that I can take a portion of the screen.
> >> Then I ran into this :
> >> ==
> >> Do you want to capture the image of your entire screen? A specific
> >> region? A specific window?
> >> If you just want a simple screenshot without any annotations/fancy
> >> editing capabilities, the default keyboard shortcuts will do the
> >> trick.
> >> These are not specific to Ubuntu. Almost all Linux distributions
> >> and
> >> desktop environments support these keyboard shortcuts.
> >> Let’s take a look at the list of keyboard shortcuts you can
> >> utilize:
> >> PrtSc – Save a screenshot of the entire screen to the
> >> “Pictures”
> >> directory.
> >> Shift + PrtSc – Save a screenshot of a specific region to
> >> Pictures.
> >> Alt + PrtSc  – Save a screenshot of the current window to
> >> Pictures.
> >> Ctrl + PrtSc – Copy the screenshot of the entire screen to the
> >> clipboard.
> >> Shift + Ctrl + PrtSc – Copy the screenshot of a specific region to
> >> the
> >> clipboard.
> >> Ctrl + Alt + PrtSc – Copy the screenshot of the current window to
> >> the
> >> clipboard.
> >> ===
> >> Ok, it looks like I have spectacle installed by default.  I tried
> >> "Shift
> >> + PrtSc" and I got the entire screen.  Image quality seems decent.
> >> If I
> >> have to I can edit the screenshot.  Would like to avoid that extra
> >> step.
> >> Any Thoughts?
> >> Thanks!!
> >> Keith
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Re: Google Fi ?? Thanks for the helpful responses ...

2022-11-17 Thread joe--- via PLUG-discuss

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Re: Anyone use Google Fi ??

2022-11-17 Thread AZ Pete via PLUG-discuss

My Family and I have been using Fi for several years. It's reliable, quite 
reasonably priced and when I have had issues the customer service is very 
helpful (and polite).
I especially like that any unused data at the end of the money is rebated to 
you ($10/Gb/Mo)
I should note that we have always used either Pixel phones or those phones sold 
directly via Fi. I have no experience with bringing your own device to Fi.

Peter


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Does anyone here use Google Fi ??

How good or how bad is it?

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Re: Consumer Cloud Storage for InterOp

2022-11-17 Thread Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss
Got it. they have those options.

On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 5:28 PM trent shipley 
wrote:

> No Stephen,
>
> I'm saying I don't like administering this kind of thing.  I'm willing to
> pay a service like $125.00 per year for a terabyte of storage, like I for
> for Google Drive, but if I do I want the risk management of my
> data--including business risk of bankruptcy, protection against data
> corruption and loss, protection against accidental or malicious access to
> my private information or data, and uptime to be comparable to Google's.
>
> Trent
>
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 3:08 PM Stephen Partington 
> wrote:
>
>> nextcloud has a desktop client for most OS's Win, OX, and Linux of
>> multiple varieties. but it otherwise runs as a website application. If
>> you do not want to run a Linus box it runs well in docker or a vm, and they
>> have ready-to-run images for you. I run it nicely as part of my unlimited
>> hosting, but without a memory cache of any sort, it has moments of
>> sluggishness. and The sync tool runs much like Google Drive sync or MS
>> Onedrive you point it at one or moe directories. Once a change happens
>> there it is replicated up and to other client machines.
>>
>> https://nextcloud.com/instant-trial/
>> https://nextcloud.com/install/#install-clients
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 2:49 PM trent shipley via PLUG-discuss <
>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I enjoy programming a lot and dislike sysadmin (one reason I don't use a
>>> Linux desktop more.  It's like owning a classic car.  You're always
>>> tinkering with it.  The other is "why won't Word ### run on this!")
>>>
>>> With that in mind are there any large, stable, reputable companies
>>> running nextcloud services for consumers.  Can nextcloud services be
>>> integrated into GUI file browsers on the three OSes?  (Maybe with something
>>> like FUSE or son-of-FUSE?)  Some nice things about Google Drive and
>>> OneDrive is they are unlikely to abruptly go out of business taking my data
>>> with them and they are likely to keep my data more reliably and securely
>>> than I could (of course, they may use it for big data research, targeted
>>> marketing, and State can get access to it with just a subpoena, not a
>>> search warrant.)
>>>
>>> Trent
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 12:14 PM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss <
>>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>
 +1 for nextcloud. I run a nextcloud instance at work and it is
 immensely powerful and remarkably straightforward to run. Nginx for me has
 been easier that apache (nextcloud has pushed me to learn and implement
 Nginx because of this) but it runs very well this way.

 If you decide to go this route use a memcache. Any of the 3 they
 suggest. It will be a huge performance boost.

 On Thu, Nov 17, 2022, 2:10 PM Nathan O'Brennan via PLUG-discuss <
 plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

>
> I have been running a hosted instance (digital ocean) with Nextcloud
> for years and it works perfectly for this almost exact scenario.
>
> It has problems with some hidden files such as .htaccess at times, but
> otherwise works fantastic. I have abandoned all other cloud platforms for
> it. Email, Calendar, files, and password management, and I have access
> everywhere, including my phone and tablet.
>
> There are free services out there that provide limited storage to a
> Nextcloud storage.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 10:56:49 AM CST trent shipley via
> PLUG-discuss wrote:
>
> > In this order I use Windows, Apple Mac, and Linux Mint.
>
> >
>
> > Sometimes I'm working in LibreOffice, or Java, or Python, etc. and I
> get
>
> > stuck rotating between all three OSes.  I mostly store my stuff or
> Google
>
> > Drive, but some on OneDrive.  I can access both fine on Windows.
> Accessing
>
> > OneDrive from my iMac works OK.  I've had the iMac  unable to find
> files on
>
> > OneDrive and I couldn't figure out why.  I haven't experimented with
> Google
>
> > Drive on Mint, but that's supposed to run OK.  There doesn't seem to
> be a
>
> > sophisticated integration of Linux Mint and OneDrive.
>
> >
>
> > LibreOffice and scripting languages work fine when placed on cloud
> drives.
>
> > I couldn't compile Java source files if they lived on Google Drive
> and I
>
> > haven't tried OneDrive yet.
>
> >
>
> > So my buried lead is "what consumer grade cloud storage
> inter-operates best
>
> > with all three OSes?"  Linux always seems to be the laggard, so the
>
> > strategy might be to find services which work well with Linux *then*
> see
>
> > how that pool of solutions work with whatever Apple is calling OSX
> now and
>
> > with Windows.
>
> >
>>>

Re: Consumer Cloud Storage for InterOp

2022-11-17 Thread trent shipley via PLUG-discuss
No Stephen,

I'm saying I don't like administering this kind of thing.  I'm willing to
pay a service like $125.00 per year for a terabyte of storage, like I for
for Google Drive, but if I do I want the risk management of my
data--including business risk of bankruptcy, protection against data
corruption and loss, protection against accidental or malicious access to
my private information or data, and uptime to be comparable to Google's.

Trent

On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 3:08 PM Stephen Partington 
wrote:

> nextcloud has a desktop client for most OS's Win, OX, and Linux of
> multiple varieties. but it otherwise runs as a website application. If
> you do not want to run a Linus box it runs well in docker or a vm, and they
> have ready-to-run images for you. I run it nicely as part of my unlimited
> hosting, but without a memory cache of any sort, it has moments of
> sluggishness. and The sync tool runs much like Google Drive sync or MS
> Onedrive you point it at one or moe directories. Once a change happens
> there it is replicated up and to other client machines.
>
> https://nextcloud.com/instant-trial/
> https://nextcloud.com/install/#install-clients
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 2:49 PM trent shipley via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> I enjoy programming a lot and dislike sysadmin (one reason I don't use a
>> Linux desktop more.  It's like owning a classic car.  You're always
>> tinkering with it.  The other is "why won't Word ### run on this!")
>>
>> With that in mind are there any large, stable, reputable companies
>> running nextcloud services for consumers.  Can nextcloud services be
>> integrated into GUI file browsers on the three OSes?  (Maybe with something
>> like FUSE or son-of-FUSE?)  Some nice things about Google Drive and
>> OneDrive is they are unlikely to abruptly go out of business taking my data
>> with them and they are likely to keep my data more reliably and securely
>> than I could (of course, they may use it for big data research, targeted
>> marketing, and State can get access to it with just a subpoena, not a
>> search warrant.)
>>
>> Trent
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 12:14 PM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss <
>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 for nextcloud. I run a nextcloud instance at work and it is immensely
>>> powerful and remarkably straightforward to run. Nginx for me has been
>>> easier that apache (nextcloud has pushed me to learn and implement Nginx
>>> because of this) but it runs very well this way.
>>>
>>> If you decide to go this route use a memcache. Any of the 3 they
>>> suggest. It will be a huge performance boost.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 17, 2022, 2:10 PM Nathan O'Brennan via PLUG-discuss <
>>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>

 I have been running a hosted instance (digital ocean) with Nextcloud
 for years and it works perfectly for this almost exact scenario.

 It has problems with some hidden files such as .htaccess at times, but
 otherwise works fantastic. I have abandoned all other cloud platforms for
 it. Email, Calendar, files, and password management, and I have access
 everywhere, including my phone and tablet.

 There are free services out there that provide limited storage to a
 Nextcloud storage.



 On Thursday, November 17, 2022 10:56:49 AM CST trent shipley via
 PLUG-discuss wrote:

 > In this order I use Windows, Apple Mac, and Linux Mint.

 >

 > Sometimes I'm working in LibreOffice, or Java, or Python, etc. and I
 get

 > stuck rotating between all three OSes.  I mostly store my stuff or
 Google

 > Drive, but some on OneDrive.  I can access both fine on Windows.
 Accessing

 > OneDrive from my iMac works OK.  I've had the iMac  unable to find
 files on

 > OneDrive and I couldn't figure out why.  I haven't experimented with
 Google

 > Drive on Mint, but that's supposed to run OK.  There doesn't seem to
 be a

 > sophisticated integration of Linux Mint and OneDrive.

 >

 > LibreOffice and scripting languages work fine when placed on cloud
 drives.

 > I couldn't compile Java source files if they lived on Google Drive
 and I

 > haven't tried OneDrive yet.

 >

 > So my buried lead is "what consumer grade cloud storage
 inter-operates best

 > with all three OSes?"  Linux always seems to be the laggard, so the

 > strategy might be to find services which work well with Linux *then*
 see

 > how that pool of solutions work with whatever Apple is calling OSX
 now and

 > with Windows.

 >

 > Sorry for the hybrid desktop world question which is not focus on
 FOSS or

 > Linux.

 >

 >

 > Trent


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Re: Consumer Cloud Storage for InterOp

2022-11-17 Thread Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss
nextcloud has a desktop client for most OS's Win, OX, and Linux of multiple
varieties. but it otherwise runs as a website application. If you do not
want to run a Linus box it runs well in docker or a vm, and they have
ready-to-run images for you. I run it nicely as part of my unlimited
hosting, but without a memory cache of any sort, it has moments of
sluggishness. and The sync tool runs much like Google Drive sync or MS
Onedrive you point it at one or moe directories. Once a change happens
there it is replicated up and to other client machines.

https://nextcloud.com/instant-trial/
https://nextcloud.com/install/#install-clients




On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 2:49 PM trent shipley via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> I enjoy programming a lot and dislike sysadmin (one reason I don't use a
> Linux desktop more.  It's like owning a classic car.  You're always
> tinkering with it.  The other is "why won't Word ### run on this!")
>
> With that in mind are there any large, stable, reputable companies running
> nextcloud services for consumers.  Can nextcloud services be integrated
> into GUI file browsers on the three OSes?  (Maybe with something like FUSE
> or son-of-FUSE?)  Some nice things about Google Drive and OneDrive is they
> are unlikely to abruptly go out of business taking my data with them and
> they are likely to keep my data more reliably and securely than I could (of
> course, they may use it for big data research, targeted marketing, and
> State can get access to it with just a subpoena, not a search warrant.)
>
> Trent
>
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 12:14 PM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> +1 for nextcloud. I run a nextcloud instance at work and it is immensely
>> powerful and remarkably straightforward to run. Nginx for me has been
>> easier that apache (nextcloud has pushed me to learn and implement Nginx
>> because of this) but it runs very well this way.
>>
>> If you decide to go this route use a memcache. Any of the 3 they suggest.
>> It will be a huge performance boost.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 17, 2022, 2:10 PM Nathan O'Brennan via PLUG-discuss <
>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I have been running a hosted instance (digital ocean) with Nextcloud for
>>> years and it works perfectly for this almost exact scenario.
>>>
>>> It has problems with some hidden files such as .htaccess at times, but
>>> otherwise works fantastic. I have abandoned all other cloud platforms for
>>> it. Email, Calendar, files, and password management, and I have access
>>> everywhere, including my phone and tablet.
>>>
>>> There are free services out there that provide limited storage to a
>>> Nextcloud storage.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 10:56:49 AM CST trent shipley via
>>> PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>>
>>> > In this order I use Windows, Apple Mac, and Linux Mint.
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> > Sometimes I'm working in LibreOffice, or Java, or Python, etc. and I
>>> get
>>>
>>> > stuck rotating between all three OSes.  I mostly store my stuff or
>>> Google
>>>
>>> > Drive, but some on OneDrive.  I can access both fine on Windows.
>>> Accessing
>>>
>>> > OneDrive from my iMac works OK.  I've had the iMac  unable to find
>>> files on
>>>
>>> > OneDrive and I couldn't figure out why.  I haven't experimented with
>>> Google
>>>
>>> > Drive on Mint, but that's supposed to run OK.  There doesn't seem to
>>> be a
>>>
>>> > sophisticated integration of Linux Mint and OneDrive.
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> > LibreOffice and scripting languages work fine when placed on cloud
>>> drives.
>>>
>>> > I couldn't compile Java source files if they lived on Google Drive and
>>> I
>>>
>>> > haven't tried OneDrive yet.
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> > So my buried lead is "what consumer grade cloud storage inter-operates
>>> best
>>>
>>> > with all three OSes?"  Linux always seems to be the laggard, so the
>>>
>>> > strategy might be to find services which work well with Linux *then*
>>> see
>>>
>>> > how that pool of solutions work with whatever Apple is calling OSX now
>>> and
>>>
>>> > with Windows.
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> > Sorry for the hybrid desktop world question which is not focus on FOSS
>>> or
>>>
>>> > Linux.
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> > Trent
>>>
>>>
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Re: How do I take a partial screenshot in KDE?

2022-11-17 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss


Cool, Thanks!!



On 2022-11-17 12:57, Aaron Jones via PLUG-discuss wrote:

scrot -s

You then just highlight what you want a pic of.

On Nov 17, 2022, at 12:50, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss 
 wrote:


Thank You Rusty!!


On 2022-11-17 12:46, Rusty Carruth via PLUG-discuss wrote:
If you don't mind a heavy application, I use GIMP for this (on 
WIndblows and Linux, but on W you can't do capture region).

On 11/17/22 09:15, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:
Thanks Michael!!
On 2022-11-10 20:11, Michael Butash wrote:

In Spectacle, set the Capture Mode Area to rectangular region, then
you can play with delay if you need to click on something then 
shoot

it in a few seconds.
Works like a champ usually, I use it mostly every day.
-mb
On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 7:08 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
 wrote:

Hi,
I am running Kubuntu 22.04.
I would like to be able to take a snippet (specific region) of my
screen, not the entire screen.
My research shows that I can use spectacle take a screen shot,
however I
am not finding that I can take a portion of the screen.
Then I ran into this :
==
Do you want to capture the image of your entire screen? A specific
region? A specific window?
If you just want a simple screenshot without any annotations/fancy
editing capabilities, the default keyboard shortcuts will do the
trick.
These are not specific to Ubuntu. Almost all Linux distributions 
and

desktop environments support these keyboard shortcuts.
Let’s take a look at the list of keyboard shortcuts you can
utilize:
PrtSc – Save a screenshot of the entire screen to the
“Pictures”
directory.
Shift + PrtSc – Save a screenshot of a specific region to
Pictures.
Alt + PrtSc  – Save a screenshot of the current window to
Pictures.
Ctrl + PrtSc – Copy the screenshot of the entire screen to the
clipboard.
Shift + Ctrl + PrtSc – Copy the screenshot of a specific region to
the
clipboard.
Ctrl + Alt + PrtSc – Copy the screenshot of the current window to
the
clipboard.
===
Ok, it looks like I have spectacle installed by default.  I tried
"Shift
+ PrtSc" and I got the entire screen.  Image quality seems decent.
If I
have to I can edit the screenshot.  Would like to avoid that extra
step.
Any Thoughts?
Thanks!!
Keith
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Re: How do I take a partial screenshot in KDE?

2022-11-17 Thread Aaron Jones via PLUG-discuss
scrot -s

You then just highlight what you want a pic of.

> On Nov 17, 2022, at 12:50, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thank You Rusty!!
> 
>> On 2022-11-17 12:46, Rusty Carruth via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>> If you don't mind a heavy application, I use GIMP for this (on WIndblows and 
>> Linux, but on W you can't do capture region).
>>> On 11/17/22 09:15, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>> Thanks Michael!!
>>> On 2022-11-10 20:11, Michael Butash wrote:
 In Spectacle, set the Capture Mode Area to rectangular region, then
 you can play with delay if you need to click on something then shoot
 it in a few seconds.
 Works like a champ usually, I use it mostly every day.
 -mb
 On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 7:08 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
  wrote:
> Hi,
> I am running Kubuntu 22.04.
> I would like to be able to take a snippet (specific region) of my
> screen, not the entire screen.
> My research shows that I can use spectacle take a screen shot,
> however I
> am not finding that I can take a portion of the screen.
> Then I ran into this :
> ==
> Do you want to capture the image of your entire screen? A specific
> region? A specific window?
> If you just want a simple screenshot without any annotations/fancy
> editing capabilities, the default keyboard shortcuts will do the
> trick.
> These are not specific to Ubuntu. Almost all Linux distributions and
> desktop environments support these keyboard shortcuts.
> Let’s take a look at the list of keyboard shortcuts you can
> utilize:
> PrtSc – Save a screenshot of the entire screen to the
> “Pictures”
> directory.
> Shift + PrtSc – Save a screenshot of a specific region to
> Pictures.
> Alt + PrtSc  – Save a screenshot of the current window to
> Pictures.
> Ctrl + PrtSc – Copy the screenshot of the entire screen to the
> clipboard.
> Shift + Ctrl + PrtSc – Copy the screenshot of a specific region to
> the
> clipboard.
> Ctrl + Alt + PrtSc – Copy the screenshot of the current window to
> the
> clipboard.
> ===
> Ok, it looks like I have spectacle installed by default.  I tried
> "Shift
> + PrtSc" and I got the entire screen.  Image quality seems decent.
> If I
> have to I can edit the screenshot.  Would like to avoid that extra
> step.
> Any Thoughts?
> Thanks!!
> Keith
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Re: Dot Local Domains

2022-11-17 Thread George Toft via PLUG-discuss

Yeah - been a while - got distracted by non-tech.

Regards,

George Toft

On 11/17/2022 9:11 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote:


George Toft, have not seem you in a while.  Thanks for all this feedback.

Eventually I will configure DNS on my private net.

Love your parental controls!!

I hope to configure a home server in the future.  The first time it 
was so I could say I did it.  The second time (future) I hope to learn 
a lot more and I would like to have the bragging rights.


Keith


On 2022-11-06 07:29, George Toft via PLUG-discuss wrote:
Short answer to all of your questions is yes, you can do this.  I did 
it for several years, and it came in really handy when I wanted to 
control the Internet usage of my pubescent children.


I set up DNS locally - I used georgetoft.com and had it split - 
outside my house (public) only had the simple entries for the A, MX, 
CNAME records.  Inside my house, I included the file server, FTP, web 
and mail server hosts.


Then I set up a DHCP server that issued my DNS server's IP as part of 
the DHCP response.  That way, everyone in the house could access the 
internal resources.


Now when my teenage children got the hormones and thought they knew 
more than me, I set up two different DHCP configs and used cron to 
activate one profile in the daytime and a different one at night.  To 
make this work, I turned off DHCP and WiFi on the Internet Gateway 
and used my own DHCP server and WiFi Access Point, with a TTL of 60 
seconds.  At the appointed time, the nighttime profile kicked in 
which only allowed the approved MAC addresses to get a DHCP address, 
effectively cutting them off from the Internet both by their PC and 
their phones.  They were out of high school before they figured out 
how to make their phones into hotspots - LOL.


As far as running your own mail server - yes you can (and I did for a 
while), but the effort really isn't worth it.  Back when I would get 
1 or 2 SPAM per week, and took great delight in tracking down their 
mail provider and ISP and filing SPAM complaints, but when it ramped 
up to 50/day, I outsourced it to a provider that managed SPAM 
blocking.  I tried blacklisting entire countries by IP - that 
helped.  I tried subscribing to blacklists - that helped, but in the 
end, I had more important things to do than spend hours per week 
managing an email server.


Regards,

George Toft

On 10/29/2022 8:07 AM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:



Hi,

For some reason .local popped into my head this morning.  From what 
I read it appears I may be able to create an Intranet that has a 
private domain name such as MyBusiness.local, on a private IP, and I 
am thinking I can run BIND and make a zone file for this Intranet.  
In this case, if I am in he local net I can bring it up with  
MyBusiness.local??  If so then I should be able to add subdomains to 
the local BIND/zone... So will this private network work like the 
public Internet?


This makes me believe I can create a mail server on this private net 
for the users of this private net.  Not that I want to, however it 
is interesting.


I read that MAC is doing something with the .local domain so it was 
recommended to use:


.test
.example
.invalid
.localhost

Would it be possible to create a private network using one of these 
private TLDs and can I use BIND to control this?


How will my browser know to go to my private domain if I use one of 
these private domains - I seem to recall needing to put this in the 
hosts file on Linux and Windows so it would resolve.  Would BIND 
override this?


Thanks!!
Keith

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Re: Anyone use Google Fi ??

2022-11-17 Thread Steve B via PLUG-discuss
I've been using it for a few years now and have been very happy with it.
Spam filtering on phone calls and text messages is superior to the VZW /
iPhone I carry for work. Monthly plan is similar to any other provider,
maybe even a bit less.

Steve

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>
> How good or how bad is it?
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Re: How do I take a partial screenshot in KDE?

2022-11-17 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss

Thank You Rusty!!

On 2022-11-17 12:46, Rusty Carruth via PLUG-discuss wrote:
If you don't mind a heavy application, I use GIMP for this (on 
WIndblows and Linux, but on W you can't do capture region).


On 11/17/22 09:15, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:

Thanks Michael!!


On 2022-11-10 20:11, Michael Butash wrote:

In Spectacle, set the Capture Mode Area to rectangular region, then
you can play with delay if you need to click on something then shoot
it in a few seconds.

Works like a champ usually, I use it mostly every day.

-mb

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 wrote:


Hi,

I am running Kubuntu 22.04.

I would like to be able to take a snippet (specific region) of my
screen, not the entire screen.

My research shows that I can use spectacle take a screen shot,
however I
am not finding that I can take a portion of the screen.

Then I ran into this :

==
Do you want to capture the image of your entire screen? A specific
region? A specific window?

If you just want a simple screenshot without any annotations/fancy
editing capabilities, the default keyboard shortcuts will do the
trick.
These are not specific to Ubuntu. Almost all Linux distributions and

desktop environments support these keyboard shortcuts.

Let’s take a look at the list of keyboard shortcuts you can
utilize:

PrtSc – Save a screenshot of the entire screen to the
“Pictures”
directory.
Shift + PrtSc – Save a screenshot of a specific region to
Pictures.
Alt + PrtSc  – Save a screenshot of the current window to
Pictures.
Ctrl + PrtSc – Copy the screenshot of the entire screen to the
clipboard.
Shift + Ctrl + PrtSc – Copy the screenshot of a specific region to
the
clipboard.
Ctrl + Alt + PrtSc – Copy the screenshot of the current window to
the
clipboard.
===

Ok, it looks like I have spectacle installed by default.  I tried
"Shift
+ PrtSc" and I got the entire screen.  Image quality seems decent.
If I
have to I can edit the screenshot.  Would like to avoid that extra
step.

Any Thoughts?

Thanks!!
Keith
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Re: Proxmox

2022-11-17 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss

Nice, Thank you Stephen!!


On 2022-11-17 12:33, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote:

I have been loving proxmox for years. Ran it my lab at work with semi
production workloads and at home.

The big suggestion I have is read up on lxc.

Proxmox uses kvm/qemu and you can do a great deal with this even if
you don't uses containers.

The biggest value I can add is use 2 drives if you can. Small one for
proxmox itself. And then a larger disk for vms. Separate space for
isos and templates is a huge benefit (local nas works here to if you
have one.

Once you install poke around and make a mess. It will help you decide
how you want it. (I reinstalled right after I set it up the first time
because I really made some decisions that did not jive well with how
proxmox does its thing.

On Wed, Nov 16, 2022, 4:06 PM Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss
 wrote:


Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss said on Wed, 16 Nov 2022 07:55:46 -0700



I am thinking of loading Proxmox on this computer and just moving
forward.

I watched a video on Proxmox and it looks simple enough.


Hi Keith,

When you've installed Proxmox, please tell us all about the process,
the landmines, the secrets, and how well it fits our needs. This
will
be great information.

SteveT

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Re: Consumer Cloud Storage for InterOp

2022-11-17 Thread trent shipley via PLUG-discuss
I enjoy programming a lot and dislike sysadmin (one reason I don't use a
Linux desktop more.  It's like owning a classic car.  You're always
tinkering with it.  The other is "why won't Word ### run on this!")

With that in mind are there any large, stable, reputable companies running
nextcloud services for consumers.  Can nextcloud services be integrated
into GUI file browsers on the three OSes?  (Maybe with something like FUSE
or son-of-FUSE?)  Some nice things about Google Drive and OneDrive is they
are unlikely to abruptly go out of business taking my data with them and
they are likely to keep my data more reliably and securely than I could (of
course, they may use it for big data research, targeted marketing, and
State can get access to it with just a subpoena, not a search warrant.)

Trent

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plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> +1 for nextcloud. I run a nextcloud instance at work and it is immensely
> powerful and remarkably straightforward to run. Nginx for me has been
> easier that apache (nextcloud has pushed me to learn and implement Nginx
> because of this) but it runs very well this way.
>
> If you decide to go this route use a memcache. Any of the 3 they suggest.
> It will be a huge performance boost.
>
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2022, 2:10 PM Nathan O'Brennan via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> I have been running a hosted instance (digital ocean) with Nextcloud for
>> years and it works perfectly for this almost exact scenario.
>>
>> It has problems with some hidden files such as .htaccess at times, but
>> otherwise works fantastic. I have abandoned all other cloud platforms for
>> it. Email, Calendar, files, and password management, and I have access
>> everywhere, including my phone and tablet.
>>
>> There are free services out there that provide limited storage to a
>> Nextcloud storage.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 10:56:49 AM CST trent shipley via
>> PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>
>> > In this order I use Windows, Apple Mac, and Linux Mint.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Sometimes I'm working in LibreOffice, or Java, or Python, etc. and I get
>>
>> > stuck rotating between all three OSes.  I mostly store my stuff or
>> Google
>>
>> > Drive, but some on OneDrive.  I can access both fine on Windows.
>> Accessing
>>
>> > OneDrive from my iMac works OK.  I've had the iMac  unable to find
>> files on
>>
>> > OneDrive and I couldn't figure out why.  I haven't experimented with
>> Google
>>
>> > Drive on Mint, but that's supposed to run OK.  There doesn't seem to be
>> a
>>
>> > sophisticated integration of Linux Mint and OneDrive.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > LibreOffice and scripting languages work fine when placed on cloud
>> drives.
>>
>> > I couldn't compile Java source files if they lived on Google Drive and I
>>
>> > haven't tried OneDrive yet.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > So my buried lead is "what consumer grade cloud storage inter-operates
>> best
>>
>> > with all three OSes?"  Linux always seems to be the laggard, so the
>>
>> > strategy might be to find services which work well with Linux *then* see
>>
>> > how that pool of solutions work with whatever Apple is calling OSX now
>> and
>>
>> > with Windows.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Sorry for the hybrid desktop world question which is not focus on FOSS
>> or
>>
>> > Linux.
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Trent
>>
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Re: How do I take a partial screenshot in KDE?

2022-11-17 Thread Rusty Carruth via PLUG-discuss
If you don't mind a heavy application, I use GIMP for this (on WIndblows 
and Linux, but on W you can't do capture region).


On 11/17/22 09:15, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:

Thanks Michael!!


On 2022-11-10 20:11, Michael Butash wrote:

In Spectacle, set the Capture Mode Area to rectangular region, then
you can play with delay if you need to click on something then shoot
it in a few seconds.

Works like a champ usually, I use it mostly every day.

-mb

On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 7:08 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
 wrote:


Hi,

I am running Kubuntu 22.04.

I would like to be able to take a snippet (specific region) of my
screen, not the entire screen.

My research shows that I can use spectacle take a screen shot,
however I
am not finding that I can take a portion of the screen.

Then I ran into this :

==
Do you want to capture the image of your entire screen? A specific
region? A specific window?

If you just want a simple screenshot without any annotations/fancy
editing capabilities, the default keyboard shortcuts will do the
trick.
These are not specific to Ubuntu. Almost all Linux distributions and

desktop environments support these keyboard shortcuts.

Let’s take a look at the list of keyboard shortcuts you can
utilize:

PrtSc – Save a screenshot of the entire screen to the
“Pictures”
directory.
Shift + PrtSc – Save a screenshot of a specific region to
Pictures.
Alt + PrtSc  – Save a screenshot of the current window to
Pictures.
Ctrl + PrtSc – Copy the screenshot of the entire screen to the
clipboard.
Shift + Ctrl + PrtSc – Copy the screenshot of a specific region to
the
clipboard.
Ctrl + Alt + PrtSc – Copy the screenshot of the current window to
the
clipboard.
===

Ok, it looks like I have spectacle installed by default.  I tried
"Shift
+ PrtSc" and I got the entire screen.  Image quality seems decent.
If I
have to I can edit the screenshot.  Would like to avoid that extra
step.

Any Thoughts?

Thanks!!
Keith
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Re: Proxmox

2022-11-17 Thread Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss
I have been loving proxmox for years. Ran it my lab at work with semi
production workloads and at home.

The big suggestion I have is read up on lxc.

Proxmox uses kvm/qemu and you can do a great deal with this even if you
don't uses containers.

The biggest value I can add is use 2 drives if you can. Small one for
proxmox itself. And then a larger disk for vms. Separate space for isos and
templates is a huge benefit (local nas works here to if you have one.

Once you install poke around and make a mess. It will help you decide how
you want it. (I reinstalled right after I set it up the first time because
I really made some decisions that did not jive well with how proxmox does
its thing.

On Wed, Nov 16, 2022, 4:06 PM Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss said on Wed, 16 Nov 2022 07:55:46 -0700
>
> >
> >I am thinking of loading Proxmox on this computer and just moving
> >forward.
> >
> >I watched a video on Proxmox and it looks simple enough.
>
> Hi Keith,
>
> When you've installed Proxmox, please tell us all about the process,
> the landmines, the secrets, and how well it fits our needs. This will
> be great information.
>
>
> SteveT
>
> Steve Litt
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Re: Anyone use Google Fi ??

2022-11-17 Thread Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss
I have friends that use it and the 3 of them I know use it say it is great.

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> Does anyone here use Google Fi ??
>
> How good or how bad is it?
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Anyone use Google Fi ??

2022-11-17 Thread joe--- via PLUG-discuss

Does anyone here use Google Fi ??

How good or how bad is it?

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Re: Consumer Cloud Storage for InterOp

2022-11-17 Thread Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss
+1 for nextcloud. I run a nextcloud instance at work and it is immensely
powerful and remarkably straightforward to run. Nginx for me has been
easier that apache (nextcloud has pushed me to learn and implement Nginx
because of this) but it runs very well this way.

If you decide to go this route use a memcache. Any of the 3 they suggest.
It will be a huge performance boost.

On Thu, Nov 17, 2022, 2:10 PM Nathan O'Brennan via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

>
> I have been running a hosted instance (digital ocean) with Nextcloud for
> years and it works perfectly for this almost exact scenario.
>
> It has problems with some hidden files such as .htaccess at times, but
> otherwise works fantastic. I have abandoned all other cloud platforms for
> it. Email, Calendar, files, and password management, and I have access
> everywhere, including my phone and tablet.
>
> There are free services out there that provide limited storage to a
> Nextcloud storage.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 10:56:49 AM CST trent shipley via
> PLUG-discuss wrote:
>
> > In this order I use Windows, Apple Mac, and Linux Mint.
>
> >
>
> > Sometimes I'm working in LibreOffice, or Java, or Python, etc. and I get
>
> > stuck rotating between all three OSes.  I mostly store my stuff or Google
>
> > Drive, but some on OneDrive.  I can access both fine on Windows.
> Accessing
>
> > OneDrive from my iMac works OK.  I've had the iMac  unable to find files
> on
>
> > OneDrive and I couldn't figure out why.  I haven't experimented with
> Google
>
> > Drive on Mint, but that's supposed to run OK.  There doesn't seem to be a
>
> > sophisticated integration of Linux Mint and OneDrive.
>
> >
>
> > LibreOffice and scripting languages work fine when placed on cloud
> drives.
>
> > I couldn't compile Java source files if they lived on Google Drive and I
>
> > haven't tried OneDrive yet.
>
> >
>
> > So my buried lead is "what consumer grade cloud storage inter-operates
> best
>
> > with all three OSes?"  Linux always seems to be the laggard, so the
>
> > strategy might be to find services which work well with Linux *then* see
>
> > how that pool of solutions work with whatever Apple is calling OSX now
> and
>
> > with Windows.
>
> >
>
> > Sorry for the hybrid desktop world question which is not focus on FOSS or
>
> > Linux.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Trent
>
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Re: Consumer Cloud Storage for InterOp

2022-11-17 Thread Nathan O'Brennan via PLUG-discuss
I have been running a hosted instance (digital ocean) with Nextcloud for years 
and it 
works perfectly for this almost exact scenario. 

It has problems with some hidden files such as .htaccess at times, but 
otherwise works 
fantastic. I have abandoned all other cloud platforms for it. Email, Calendar, 
files, and 
password management, and I have access everywhere, including my phone and 
tablet. 

There are free services out there that provide limited storage to a Nextcloud 
storage.



On Thursday, November 17, 2022 10:56:49 AM CST trent shipley via PLUG-discuss 
wrote:
> In this order I use Windows, Apple Mac, and Linux Mint.
> 
> Sometimes I'm working in LibreOffice, or Java, or Python, etc. and I get
> stuck rotating between all three OSes.  I mostly store my stuff or Google
> Drive, but some on OneDrive.  I can access both fine on Windows.  Accessing
> OneDrive from my iMac works OK.  I've had the iMac  unable to find files on
> OneDrive and I couldn't figure out why.  I haven't experimented with Google
> Drive on Mint, but that's supposed to run OK.  There doesn't seem to be a
> sophisticated integration of Linux Mint and OneDrive.
> 
> LibreOffice and scripting languages work fine when placed on cloud drives.
> I couldn't compile Java source files if they lived on Google Drive and I
> haven't tried OneDrive yet.
> 
> So my buried lead is "what consumer grade cloud storage inter-operates best
> with all three OSes?"  Linux always seems to be the laggard, so the
> strategy might be to find services which work well with Linux *then* see
> how that pool of solutions work with whatever Apple is calling OSX now and
> with Windows.
> 
> Sorry for the hybrid desktop world question which is not focus on FOSS or
> Linux.
> 
> 
> Trent


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Re: Consumer Cloud Storage for InterOp

2022-11-17 Thread Ryan Petris via PLUG-discuss
If you're willing to pay for it, Insync works well on Linux and syncs Dropbox, 
OneDrive, and Google Drive to your machine, with selective sync and multiple 
accounts.

https://www.insynchq.com/

On Thu, Nov 17, 2022, at 9:56 AM, trent shipley via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> In this order I use Windows, Apple Mac, and Linux Mint.
> 
> Sometimes I'm working in LibreOffice, or Java, or Python, etc. and I get 
> stuck rotating between all three OSes.  I mostly store my stuff or Google 
> Drive, but some on OneDrive.  I can access both fine on Windows.  Accessing 
> OneDrive from my iMac works OK.  I've had the iMac  unable to find files on 
> OneDrive and I couldn't figure out why.  I haven't experimented with Google 
> Drive on Mint, but that's supposed to run OK.  There doesn't seem to be a 
> sophisticated integration of Linux Mint and OneDrive.
> 
> LibreOffice and scripting languages work fine when placed on cloud drives.  I 
> couldn't compile Java source files if they lived on Google Drive and I 
> haven't tried OneDrive yet.
> 
> So my buried lead is "what consumer grade cloud storage inter-operates best 
> with all three OSes?"  Linux always seems to be the laggard, so the strategy 
> might be to find services which work well with Linux *then* see how that pool 
> of solutions work with whatever Apple is calling OSX now and with Windows.
> 
> Sorry for the hybrid desktop world question which is not focus on FOSS or 
> Linux.
> 
> 
> Trent
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Consumer Cloud Storage for InterOp

2022-11-17 Thread trent shipley via PLUG-discuss
In this order I use Windows, Apple Mac, and Linux Mint.

Sometimes I'm working in LibreOffice, or Java, or Python, etc. and I get
stuck rotating between all three OSes.  I mostly store my stuff or Google
Drive, but some on OneDrive.  I can access both fine on Windows.  Accessing
OneDrive from my iMac works OK.  I've had the iMac  unable to find files on
OneDrive and I couldn't figure out why.  I haven't experimented with Google
Drive on Mint, but that's supposed to run OK.  There doesn't seem to be a
sophisticated integration of Linux Mint and OneDrive.

LibreOffice and scripting languages work fine when placed on cloud drives.
I couldn't compile Java source files if they lived on Google Drive and I
haven't tried OneDrive yet.

So my buried lead is "what consumer grade cloud storage inter-operates best
with all three OSes?"  Linux always seems to be the laggard, so the
strategy might be to find services which work well with Linux *then* see
how that pool of solutions work with whatever Apple is calling OSX now and
with Windows.

Sorry for the hybrid desktop world question which is not focus on FOSS or
Linux.


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Re: Proxmox

2022-11-17 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss

Thanks!!


On 2022-11-17 06:40, Thomas Scott via PLUG-discuss wrote:

Proxmox is an ESXi replacement If I recall correctly? So it's a little
bit more than Virtualbox. It's installed on baremetal as the HV, vs
being installed as an HV on top of the OS. It's incredibly powerful
though! Best of luck.

Best Regards,
-Thomas Scott

On Wed, Nov 16, 2022 at 4:11 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
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On 2022-11-16 14:06, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss wrote:

Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss said on Wed, 16 Nov 2022 07:55:46

-0700




I am thinking of loading Proxmox on this computer and just moving
forward.

I watched a video on Proxmox and it looks simple enough.


Hi Keith,

When you've installed Proxmox, please tell us all about the

process,

the landmines, the secrets, and how well it fits our needs. This

will

be great information.



Hi Steve,

I will. Might be a couple days.  Part of my decision comes from
watching
this video   :  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u8qTN3cCnQ  He
makes it
sound simple.

Keith



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Re: VirtualBox Update 11/15/22

2022-11-17 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss

Thanks Steve!!


On 2022-11-16 12:26, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss wrote:

techli...@phpcoderusa.com said on Wed, 16 Nov 2022 07:23:45 -0700


any suggestions
on a distro to try for my desktop for testing VirtualBox only?


Try Void Linux. It's very different from all the Debian-derived distros
you've used so far, so it might produce different results or deliver
different insights.

SteveT

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Re: VirtualBox Update 11/15/22

2022-11-17 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss

Thanks Nathan,

I was unable to ping Google.com.  Did not try it by IP.

Keith


On 2022-11-16 10:58, Nathan O'Brennan via PLUG-discuss wrote:

On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 9:48:27 AM CST Keith Smith via
PLUG-discuss wrote:


On 2022-11-16 07:50, Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss wrote:



> Run the command  route -n



> and check the gateway IP,  it should be pointing to your Internet



> router.







It does.




They do.  But no access to the Internet.






Does no internet access mean ping google.com fails, and ping 8.8.8.8
fails?

Sorry if I missed it, but I can't recall if pinging worked or not.
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Re: Proxmox

2022-11-17 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss

Thanks Todd,

What is the O/S on the host machines that run VB?

Thanks!!

Keith


On 2022-11-16 10:18, Todd Cole via PLUG-discuss wrote:

The virtualbox in the repo is 1 version older than from the website
I.E 6-7  I am using vb 7 in 5-6 laptops with guest additions and
bridged network on some and NAT  on others as need for each project
while virtualbox is based on qemu it not fully open source if that
matters but it is one of the easiest to use IMHO tho I have many
proxmox machines for work they have many more options with less
overhead
in short if you need screen resolution or sound or usb use
virtualbox.. If you need help I will be online at the installfest
bbb.azloco.net [1] 10am to 4pm Sat  first and third saterdays

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According to this page virtualbox is in the repository:
https://linuxhint.com/install-setup-virtualbox-ubuntu-22-04/

You need the kernel headers and kernel development packages
installed to create the modules it needs to run.
Installing the one in the repository will probably do that.
https://linuxhint.com/install-setup-virtualbox-ubuntu-22-04/

JD

On Wed, Nov 16, 2022 at 7:55 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
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Hi,

If you have been following my VirtualBox adventure you know I
cannot get
VirtualBox to work on Kubuntu 22.04  It does work on Win 10.

VirtualBox was an interim step...  I was hoping to use VB until I
can
pull together some cash to build a Proxmox machine.

My Win 10 box died last week and I think it is just that Windows
got
corrupted. It is an i5 with 4 cores and 4 threads and 16Gb of RAM.
For
the hard drive I have an 1TB SSD.  This was my daily driver. I
moved to
win about 6 years ago for business reasons.

I am thinking of loading Proxmox on this computer and just moving
forward.

I watched a video on Proxmox and it looks simple enough.

My needs are simple.  I am a PHP developer and want to make 4 or 5

virtual machines for testing.  One two machines will be active at
any
given time. I assume I will need 2vCPU's and 2 - 4 GB of RAM per
VM.

Basically I need to configure each VM to have a static IP on my
network
so I can access the VM using SSH, Filezilla, and Visual Studio
Code.
Your basic LAMP and LEMP stack PHP development and testing.

Any thoughts are very much appreciated.

Keith

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Links:
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Re: Proxmox

2022-11-17 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss

Thank you for sticking with me and all the help JD!!

For some reason VB will not work on Kubuntu 22.04.  Or at least I am 
having a really bad go of it.  I tried installing via .deb and via the 
repository.  No Luck.  AND this morning I tried to create a VM using 
Ubuntu 22.04 and it would not allow me to create a VM with 22.04 it kept 
showing me Ubuntu 20.04... I tried twice and then uninstalled VB.


My computer has been cycled several times so I suspect this is not a 
Kernel Issue.


I can get Ubuntu 20.04 to work on my Windows 10 laptop using 
VirtualBox Maybe I am doing something wrong... I do not know.  
Worked on it for about 20 hours and it is time to move on to where I 
ultimately wanted to go -> Proxmox.  We will see what success I will 
have with that.


Thanks!!
Keith


On 2022-11-16 08:17, JD Austin via PLUG-discuss wrote:

According to this page virtualbox is in the repository:
https://linuxhint.com/install-setup-virtualbox-ubuntu-22-04/

You need the kernel headers and kernel development packages installed
to create the modules it needs to run.
Installing the one in the repository will probably do that.
https://linuxhint.com/install-setup-virtualbox-ubuntu-22-04/

JD

On Wed, Nov 16, 2022 at 7:55 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
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Hi,

If you have been following my VirtualBox adventure you know I cannot
get
VirtualBox to work on Kubuntu 22.04  It does work on Win 10.

VirtualBox was an interim step...  I was hoping to use VB until I
can
pull together some cash to build a Proxmox machine.

My Win 10 box died last week and I think it is just that Windows got

corrupted. It is an i5 with 4 cores and 4 threads and 16Gb of RAM.
For
the hard drive I have an 1TB SSD.  This was my daily driver. I moved
to
win about 6 years ago for business reasons.

I am thinking of loading Proxmox on this computer and just moving
forward.

I watched a video on Proxmox and it looks simple enough.

My needs are simple.  I am a PHP developer and want to make 4 or 5
virtual machines for testing.  One two machines will be active at
any
given time. I assume I will need 2vCPU's and 2 - 4 GB of RAM per VM.

Basically I need to configure each VM to have a static IP on my
network
so I can access the VM using SSH, Filezilla, and Visual Studio Code.

Your basic LAMP and LEMP stack PHP development and testing.

Any thoughts are very much appreciated.

Keith

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Re: Oracle's VirtualBox RANT

2022-11-17 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
I appreciate all your feedback Steve.  VirtualBox was supposed to be an 
interim step until I could afford a Proxmox machine.  I think I will put 
Proxmox on the computer that was running Windows and died. I need to 
test the hardware... I think Windows got corrupted and the hardware is 
fine.


I hope to build Proxmox tomorrow.

Keith



On 2022-11-15 17:12, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss wrote:

Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss said on Tue, 15 Nov 2022 07:42:22 -0700

[snip]


VirtualBox is a mess.


[snip]


My expectation was that I could download and install VB then create a
guest instance and configure my VM as I like, and in my case I want to
have it have an IP on my local private network, and be able to put
that IP in my browser and do some testing.


I've done just this with Qemu.



VirtualBox in my opinion is what is wrong with technology.  I've said
it before and I'll say it again, technology has become too difficult.


The whole idea of virtual machines is blindingly difficult. If virtual
machines weren't so darn helpful, I wouldn't use them.

I used VirtualBox for a little while before switching to Qemu. I didn't
find VirtualBox any more difficult or complicated than Qemu. I switched
to Qemu for three reasons:

1) Your mileage may vary, but I found Virtualbox to be unstable and
   crashy.

2) I prefer Qemu's shellscript paradigm to VirtualBox's point and click
   paradigm. Indeed, preference of shellscripts over point and click
   was one reason I migrated from Windows to Linux.

3) I don't like Ellisonware. Although I don't dislike Ellisonware as
   much as Gatesware or Poetterware, I'd prefer not to have my workflow
   depend on the whims of Larry Ellison.

Anyway, if you'd like to see how I solved your particualar problem with
Qemu, see http://troubleshooters.com/linux/qemu/nobs.htm . I have a
feeling you can use the VirtualBox equivalents to solve this problem.

Please understand documentation on virtual machines is ambigous,
contradictory, often false, based on single-setup anecdotes, etc, so it
stands to reason that something with so many components is incredibly
difficult to get right, under the circumstances.

SteveT

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Re: How do I take a partial screenshot in KDE?

2022-11-17 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss

Thanks Michael!!


On 2022-11-10 20:11, Michael Butash wrote:

In Spectacle, set the Capture Mode Area to rectangular region, then
you can play with delay if you need to click on something then shoot
it in a few seconds.

Works like a champ usually, I use it mostly every day.

-mb

On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 7:08 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
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Hi,

I am running Kubuntu 22.04.

I would like to be able to take a snippet (specific region) of my
screen, not the entire screen.

My research shows that I can use spectacle take a screen shot,
however I
am not finding that I can take a portion of the screen.

Then I ran into this :

==
Do you want to capture the image of your entire screen? A specific
region? A specific window?

If you just want a simple screenshot without any annotations/fancy
editing capabilities, the default keyboard shortcuts will do the
trick.
These are not specific to Ubuntu. Almost all Linux distributions and

desktop environments support these keyboard shortcuts.

Let’s take a look at the list of keyboard shortcuts you can
utilize:

PrtSc – Save a screenshot of the entire screen to the
“Pictures”
directory.
Shift + PrtSc – Save a screenshot of a specific region to
Pictures.
Alt + PrtSc  – Save a screenshot of the current window to
Pictures.
Ctrl + PrtSc – Copy the screenshot of the entire screen to the
clipboard.
Shift + Ctrl + PrtSc – Copy the screenshot of a specific region to
the
clipboard.
Ctrl + Alt + PrtSc – Copy the screenshot of the current window to
the
clipboard.
===

Ok, it looks like I have spectacle installed by default.  I tried
"Shift
+ PrtSc" and I got the entire screen.  Image quality seems decent.
If I
have to I can edit the screenshot.  Would like to avoid that extra
step.

Any Thoughts?

Thanks!!
Keith
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Re: Installing and configuring VirtualBox on Kubuntu 22.04

2022-11-17 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss

Thanks Nathan!!


On 2022-11-09 20:10, Nathan O'Brennan via PLUG-discuss wrote:

Hi Keith,
You will want to download the VirtualBox Extension Pack from their
website, located here: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
It's about half way down the page and says "VirtualBox 7.0.2 Oracle VM
VirtualBox Extension Pack" with a link below that says "All supported
platforms"
Download that file, then from the Extensions tab click on Add Package
and navigate to that download.

On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 7:09:23 PM CST Keith Smith via
PLUG-discuss wrote:


Hi,







I have installed Kubuntu 22.04 and an getting familiar with it and

have


some questions.







I was researching how to install Oracle's VirtualBox and the way is

to


go to the K-Menu and do a search.  It comers up with a .deb package.

 I


was able to install it no problem and I can launch it from the

K-Menu.






1) Is the .deb a different repository?  When I do a package upgrade

does


it get upgraded?  How do I uninstall if I want?







2) I want to install the Extension, as suggested.  The docs I am



following says click File > Preferences > Extensions > Add a new



package.







I do not have extensions in the menu.







Any help much appreciated,







Keith



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Re: Dot Local Domains

2022-11-17 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss


George Toft, have not seem you in a while.  Thanks for all this 
feedback.


Eventually I will configure DNS on my private net.

Love your parental controls!!

I hope to configure a home server in the future.  The first time it was 
so I could say I did it.  The second time (future) I hope to learn a lot 
more and I would like to have the bragging rights.


Keith


On 2022-11-06 07:29, George Toft via PLUG-discuss wrote:
Short answer to all of your questions is yes, you can do this.  I did 
it for several years, and it came in really handy when I wanted to 
control the Internet usage of my pubescent children.


I set up DNS locally - I used georgetoft.com and had it split - outside 
my house (public) only had the simple entries for the A, MX, CNAME 
records.  Inside my house, I included the file server, FTP, web and 
mail server hosts.


Then I set up a DHCP server that issued my DNS server's IP as part of 
the DHCP response.  That way, everyone in the house could access the 
internal resources.


Now when my teenage children got the hormones and thought they knew 
more than me, I set up two different DHCP configs and used cron to 
activate one profile in the daytime and a different one at night.  To 
make this work, I turned off DHCP and WiFi on the Internet Gateway and 
used my own DHCP server and WiFi Access Point, with a TTL of 60 
seconds.  At the appointed time, the nighttime profile kicked in which 
only allowed the approved MAC addresses to get a DHCP address, 
effectively cutting them off from the Internet both by their PC and 
their phones.  They were out of high school before they figured out how 
to make their phones into hotspots - LOL.


As far as running your own mail server - yes you can (and I did for a 
while), but the effort really isn't worth it.  Back when I would get 1 
or 2 SPAM per week, and took great delight in tracking down their mail 
provider and ISP and filing SPAM complaints, but when it ramped up to 
50/day, I outsourced it to a provider that managed SPAM blocking.  I 
tried blacklisting entire countries by IP - that helped.  I tried 
subscribing to blacklists - that helped, but in the end, I had more 
important things to do than spend hours per week managing an email 
server.


Regards,

George Toft

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Hi,

For some reason .local popped into my head this morning.  From what I 
read it appears I may be able to create an Intranet that has a private 
domain name such as MyBusiness.local, on a private IP, and I am 
thinking I can run BIND and make a zone file for this Intranet.  In 
this case, if I am in he local net I can bring it up with  
MyBusiness.local??  If so then I should be able to add subdomains to 
the local BIND/zone... So will this private network work like the 
public Internet?


This makes me believe I can create a mail server on this private net 
for the users of this private net.  Not that I want to, however it is 
interesting.


I read that MAC is doing something with the .local domain so it was 
recommended to use:


.test
.example
.invalid
.localhost

Would it be possible to create a private network using one of these 
private TLDs and can I use BIND to control this?


How will my browser know to go to my private domain if I use one of 
these private domains - I seem to recall needing to put this in the 
hosts file on Linux and Windows so it would resolve.  Would BIND 
override this?


Thanks!!
Keith

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Re: Proxmox

2022-11-17 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss

Hi Sean,

Thanks for the feedback. My needs are simple.  I need to configure 
several LAMP and LEMP severs so I can complete a PHP software project.


I need the VM to have an IP on my local network and to be accessible in 
the browser via it's IP address.  Oh and it needs to be Internet aware 
so I can pulling in the packages I need to build the LAMP/LEMP VMs


Wish me luck!!

Keith


On 2022-11-17 08:43, Sean Roe via PLUG-discuss wrote:

I have been using Proxmox for years.  It is rock solid as a
replacement for ESXi,  I use about 20% of the features but it supports
clustering and a bunch of other high end features. Install was pretty
simple and the upgrades have been pretty simple.  I run TruNas as a VM
with hardware pass through to its own disks.  Works really well.

Sean

On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 8:40 AM Thomas Scott via PLUG-discuss
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Proxmox is an ESXi replacement If I recall correctly? So it's a
little bit more than Virtualbox. It's installed on baremetal as the
HV, vs being installed as an HV on top of the OS. It's incredibly
powerful though! Best of luck.

Best Regards,
-Thomas Scott

On Wed, Nov 16, 2022 at 4:11 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
 wrote:


On 2022-11-16 14:06, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss wrote:

Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss said on Wed, 16 Nov 2022 07:55:46

-0700




I am thinking of loading Proxmox on this computer and just

moving

forward.

I watched a video on Proxmox and it looks simple enough.


Hi Keith,

When you've installed Proxmox, please tell us all about the

process,

the landmines, the secrets, and how well it fits our needs. This

will

be great information.



Hi Steve,

I will. Might be a couple days.  Part of my decision comes from
watching
this video   :  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u8qTN3cCnQ  He
makes it
sound simple.

Keith



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Fully automatic install (FAI) isn't automated enough

2022-11-17 Thread Seabass via PLUG-discuss
Hello everyone.

I recently tried setting up an FAI server (fai-project.org) to PXE boot an 
automatic install of Linux to a machine.
There is one major problem, in my opinion:
It isn't automated enough

To use the PXE functionality, one needs to either assign every MAC address in 
ISC-DHCP configs (and I know you can do a range of MAC addresses, I just don't 
know what to use since we have a variety of laptops) and I think the IP needs 
to be set in /etc/hosts.
(Source: 
[https://fai-project.org/fai-guide/\#\_a\_id\_bootdhcp\_a\_configuration\_of\_the\_dhcp\_daemon][https_fai-project.org_fai-guide_a_id_bootdhcp_a_configuration_of_the_dhcp_daemon]
 )

Alternatively, I can make a FAI USB that will search for the monitoring FAI 
server.
But this requires booting to the USB every time, which means moving the USB(s) 
across laptops as it gets figured out.
(Source: 
[https://fai-project.org/fai-guide/\#autodiscover][https_fai-project.org_fai-guide_autodiscover]
 )

So... Does anyone know a PXE install server that will install a Linux system 
and only needs the computer to boot through PXE to make it happen, and doesn't 
have a requirement to specify MAC addresses?

Or perhaps there is a way to make ISC-DHCP not need to care about the MAC 
address used..?
I dunno, at this point, let me know what you all think.


[https_fai-project.org_fai-guide_a_id_bootdhcp_a_configuration_of_the_dhcp_daemon]:
 
https://fai-project.org/fai-guide/#_a_id_bootdhcp_a_configuration_of_the_dhcp_daemon
[https_fai-project.org_fai-guide_autodiscover]: 
https://fai-project.org/fai-guide/#autodiscover

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Re: Proxmox

2022-11-17 Thread Sean Roe via PLUG-discuss
I have been using Proxmox for years.  It is rock solid as a replacement for
ESXi,  I use about 20% of the features but it supports clustering and a
bunch of other high end features. Install was pretty simple and the
upgrades have been pretty simple.  I run TruNas as a VM with hardware pass
through to its own disks.  Works really well.

Sean

On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 8:40 AM Thomas Scott via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> Proxmox is an ESXi replacement If I recall correctly? So it's a little bit
> more than Virtualbox. It's installed on baremetal as the HV, vs being
> installed as an HV on top of the OS. It's incredibly powerful though! Best
> of luck.
>
> Best Regards,
> -Thomas Scott
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2022 at 4:11 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> On 2022-11-16 14:06, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>> > Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss said on Wed, 16 Nov 2022 07:55:46 -0700
>> >
>> >>
>> >> I am thinking of loading Proxmox on this computer and just moving
>> >> forward.
>> >>
>> >> I watched a video on Proxmox and it looks simple enough.
>> >
>> > Hi Keith,
>> >
>> > When you've installed Proxmox, please tell us all about the process,
>> > the landmines, the secrets, and how well it fits our needs. This will
>> > be great information.
>> >
>>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> I will. Might be a couple days.  Part of my decision comes from watching
>> this video   :  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u8qTN3cCnQ  He makes it
>> sound simple.
>>
>> Keith
>>
>> >
>> > SteveT
>> >
>> > Steve Litt
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>> > http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore/thrive.htm
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Re: Proxmox

2022-11-17 Thread Thomas Scott via PLUG-discuss
Proxmox is an ESXi replacement If I recall correctly? So it's a little bit
more than Virtualbox. It's installed on baremetal as the HV, vs being
installed as an HV on top of the OS. It's incredibly powerful though! Best
of luck.

Best Regards,
-Thomas Scott


On Wed, Nov 16, 2022 at 4:11 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> On 2022-11-16 14:06, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> > Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss said on Wed, 16 Nov 2022 07:55:46 -0700
> >
> >>
> >> I am thinking of loading Proxmox on this computer and just moving
> >> forward.
> >>
> >> I watched a video on Proxmox and it looks simple enough.
> >
> > Hi Keith,
> >
> > When you've installed Proxmox, please tell us all about the process,
> > the landmines, the secrets, and how well it fits our needs. This will
> > be great information.
> >
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> I will. Might be a couple days.  Part of my decision comes from watching
> this video   :  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u8qTN3cCnQ  He makes it
> sound simple.
>
> Keith
>
> >
> > SteveT
> >
> > Steve Litt
> > Autumn 2022 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times
> > http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore/thrive.htm
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