Re: disable full screen apps in KDE
On 2021-06-10 14:17, Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss wrote: You may have forgotten to click "Apply" on the main System Settings window like I did the first time I was testing it. Clicking OK on the windows settings windows isn't enough for it to take effect. I think this is actually a problem with the Window Rules part of this. http://crow202.org/2021/buggy_settings.png shows the state of the "no fullscreen" settings. Apply has been pushed. However, fullscreen mode works. Go to "Window Behavior", then back to "Window Rules", and ... the rule about properties has vanished as seen in http://crow202.org/2021/buggy_settings2.png . Put it back, hit Apply, and now if you hit full screen in gwenview, it only occupies its window. Remove rule, hit Apply, gwenview can go full screen. However, now Gimp won't go full screen. I'm having a hard time figuring out what is going on, and there are probably more important things to fiddle with. -- Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress There is no Darkness in Eternity But only Light too dim for us to see. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: disable full screen apps in KDE
You may have forgotten to click "Apply" on the main System Settings window like I did the first time I was testing it. Clicking OK on the windows settings windows isn't enough for it to take effect. Brian On 6/10/21 1:16 PM, Matt Graham via PLUG-discuss wrote: On 2021-06-10 11:37, Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss wrote: System Settings -> Window Managment -> Window Rules Click on New Set the Description to something like "No Full Screen" and leave everything else alone, it they should all be set to Unimportant. Click on the "Size & Position" tab Check the box next to "Fullscreen" then change the select box next to it to "Force" and the bubble next to that should be set to "No" Click OK and it will warn you with the verbage that means that it's going to match ALL windows which would normally not be good, but that's what you want. Then click Apply on the main System Setting windows and enjoy your no full screen system. The first time I tried this, it worked; pushing the "Full Screen" button on gwenview put the full screen mode of gwenview into gwenview's window and did not expand the window. Then I removed the rule, and full screen in gwenview worked again. Then I thought "Wait, what about GTK+ applications?" I put the rule back. Gimp's full screen mode went to full screen, which I sort of expected. So did gwenview's, which I did not. And now every application is able to go full screen, regardless of the rule's presence. I'm a bit confused as to why it'd work the first time and not the second time. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: disable full screen apps in KDE
On 2021-06-10 11:37, Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss wrote: System Settings -> Window Managment -> Window Rules Click on New Set the Description to something like "No Full Screen" and leave everything else alone, it they should all be set to Unimportant. Click on the "Size & Position" tab Check the box next to "Fullscreen" then change the select box next to it to "Force" and the bubble next to that should be set to "No" Click OK and it will warn you with the verbage that means that it's going to match ALL windows which would normally not be good, but that's what you want. Then click Apply on the main System Setting windows and enjoy your no full screen system. The first time I tried this, it worked; pushing the "Full Screen" button on gwenview put the full screen mode of gwenview into gwenview's window and did not expand the window. Then I removed the rule, and full screen in gwenview worked again. Then I thought "Wait, what about GTK+ applications?" I put the rule back. Gimp's full screen mode went to full screen, which I sort of expected. So did gwenview's, which I did not. And now every application is able to go full screen, regardless of the rule's presence. I'm a bit confused as to why it'd work the first time and not the second time. -- Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress There is no Darkness in Eternity But only Light too dim for us to see. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: disable full screen apps in KDE
System Settings -> Window Managment -> Window Rules Click on New Set the Description to something like "No Full Screen" and leave everything else alone, it they should all be set to Unimportant. Click on the "Size & Position" tab Check the box next to "Fullscreen" then change the select box next to it to "Force" and the bubble next to that should be set to "No" Click OK and it will warn you with the verbage that means that it's going to match ALL windows which would normally not be good, but that's what you want. Then click Apply on the main System Setting windows and enjoy your no full screen system. To create an exception to your blanket rules: Right click on title bar of the application you want to make an exception for and go to "More Actions" -> "Configure Special Application Settings..." Then select the "Size & Position" and put a check next to "Fullscreen" and set the select box to "Do Not Effect" Click OK and enjoy your Fullscreen exception! Brian Cluff PS, if you're running the latest version of KDE the interface is a little different. In that case instead of clicking on the "Size & Position" tab you just have to click on Add Property at the bottom and look/search for "Fullscreen" and set all the same options as above. On 6/10/21 12:07 AM, der.hans via PLUG-discuss wrote: Am 08. Jun, 2021 schwätzte Matt Graham via PLUG-discuss so: On 2021-06-08 13:34, der.hans via PLUG-discuss wrote: is there an easyish way to totally disable apps from going full screen in KDE? I do want to be able to ocassionally re-enable full screen for an app, but am fine if I first have to acknowledge that it's a horrible idea and I deserve the repercussions :) Why? This seems like a strange thing to want. Because I have a visceral negative reaction when apps unwantedly go full screen. Aside from messing with my workflow it really, really annoys me. I don't think you can do this easily. I tried going into System Settings -> Window Management -> Window Rules and setting the maximum size of a gwenview window to 1024x768. This made it so that the gwenview windows all snapped to that size, and it was not possible to make them larger using normal window manager operations. However, the "Full Screen" button still made a gwenview window take over the whole screen. This is probably controlled by the KToggleFullScreenAction code, which gets kind of low-level in that it calls QT functions you're not supposed to call directly from KDE. Fiddling with this part of KWidgetsAddons without recompiling everything is probably a non-starter. Yeah, probably difficult, but it shouldn't be. I will keep searching for my own version of nerdvana. ciao, der.hans --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: disable full screen apps in KDE
Am 08. Jun, 2021 schwätzte Matt Graham via PLUG-discuss so: On 2021-06-08 13:34, der.hans via PLUG-discuss wrote: is there an easyish way to totally disable apps from going full screen in KDE? I do want to be able to ocassionally re-enable full screen for an app, but am fine if I first have to acknowledge that it's a horrible idea and I deserve the repercussions :) Why? This seems like a strange thing to want. Because I have a visceral negative reaction when apps unwantedly go full screen. Aside from messing with my workflow it really, really annoys me. I don't think you can do this easily. I tried going into System Settings -> Window Management -> Window Rules and setting the maximum size of a gwenview window to 1024x768. This made it so that the gwenview windows all snapped to that size, and it was not possible to make them larger using normal window manager operations. However, the "Full Screen" button still made a gwenview window take over the whole screen. This is probably controlled by the KToggleFullScreenAction code, which gets kind of low-level in that it calls QT functions you're not supposed to call directly from KDE. Fiddling with this part of KWidgetsAddons without recompiling everything is probably a non-starter. Yeah, probably difficult, but it shouldn't be. I will keep searching for my own version of nerdvana. ciao, der.hans -- # https://www.LuftHans.com https://www.PhxLinux.org # "Life is pain, Highness! Anyone who says differently is selling # something." -- Dread Pirate Roberts in The Princess Bride--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: disable full screen apps in KDE
On 2021-06-08 13:34, der.hans via PLUG-discuss wrote: is there an easyish way to totally disable apps from going full screen in KDE? I do want to be able to ocassionally re-enable full screen for an app, but am fine if I first have to acknowledge that it's a horrible idea and I deserve the repercussions :) Why? This seems like a strange thing to want. I don't think you can do this easily. I tried going into System Settings -> Window Management -> Window Rules and setting the maximum size of a gwenview window to 1024x768. This made it so that the gwenview windows all snapped to that size, and it was not possible to make them larger using normal window manager operations. However, the "Full Screen" button still made a gwenview window take over the whole screen. This is probably controlled by the KToggleFullScreenAction code, which gets kind of low-level in that it calls QT functions you're not supposed to call directly from KDE. Fiddling with this part of KWidgetsAddons without recompiling everything is probably a non-starter. -- Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress There is no Darkness in Eternity But only Light too dim for us to see. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
disable full screen apps in KDE
moin moin, is there an easyish way to totally disable apps from going full screen in KDE? I do want to be able to ocassionally re-enable full screen for an app, but am fine if I first have to acknowledge that it's a horrible idea and I deserve the repercussions :) ciao, der.hans -- # https://www.LuftHans.com https://www.PhxLinux.org # "I have seen the enemy, and it is shiny." -- Benjy Feen, 22Jun2001 --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
