Hey... look at what I just discovered.

[Michael Havens]

There actually IS a Linux group up here in Cottonwood.

*Linux SIG*

Meets 3rd Friday at 4:00 P.M.

[image: Richard.jpg (12742
bytes)]

*Miles Standish*

*Linux* refers to the family of Unix-like computer operating systems using
the Linux kernel.  Linux can
be installed on a wide variety of computer hardware, ranging from mobile
phones, tablet computers, routers and video game consoles, to desktop
computers, mainframes and supercomputers.  The development of Linux is one
of the most prominent examples of free and open source software
collaboration; typically all the underlying source code can be used, freely
modified, and redistributed, both commercially and non-commercially, by
anyone under licenses such as the GNU General Public License. Typically
Linux is packaged in a format known as a *Linux distribution* for desktop
and server use. Some popular mainstream Linux distributions include Debian
(and its derivatives such as Ubuntu), Fedora and openSUSE. Linux
distributions include the Linux kernel, supporting utilities and libraries
and usually a large amount of application software to fulfill the
distribution's intended use.  The name "Linux" comes from the Linux kernel,
originally written in 1991 by Linus Torvalds. The main supporting user
space system tools and libraries from the GNU Project (announced in 1983 by
Richard Stallman) are the basis for the Free Software Foundation's
preferred name *GNU/Linux*.

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Re: Hey Festers - Let's Build a gPXE Build Server for the Installfest

[Lisa Kachold]

Also, VM bridging is not conducive to gPXE and besides WHY?

We are using older equipment and we want all the Alan Cox'ian TCP/IP UDP
sweetness that IS gPXE:

*gPXE* (formerly *Etherboot*) is an
open-source Preboot
Execution 
Environment(PXE)
implementation and bootloader. It can be used to enable computers
without built-in PXE support to boot from the network, or to extend an
existing PXE implementation with support for additional protocols. While
traditional PXE clients use
TFTPto
transfer data, gPXE adds the ability to retrieve data through other
protocols like HTTP,
iSCSI  and ATA over
Ethernet(AoE), and can
work with
Wi-Fi  rather than requiring a wired
connection.
  Contents

   - 1 PXE implementation
   - 2 Bootloader 
   - 3 Vitality 
   - 4 See also 
   - 5 External links 
   - 6 References 

  PXE implementation

gPXE can be loaded by a computer in several ways:

   - from media like floppy disk ,
   USB flash drive , or hard
   disk 
   - as a pseudo Linux kernel 
   - as an ELF 
image
   - from an option ROM  on a
   network card or embedded in a system BIOS
   - over a network  as a PXE boot
   image

gPXE implements its own PXE stack, using a driver corresponding to the
network card, or a
UNDIdriver
if it was loaded by PXE itself. This allows to use a PXE stack even
if the network card has no boot
ROM,
by loading gPXE from a fixed medium.
Bootloader

Although its basic role was to implement a PXE stack, gPXE can be used as a
full-featured network bootloader. It can fetch files from multiple network
protocols 
[1],
such as TFTP, 
NFS,
HTTP[2]or
FTP , and can boot PXE,
ELF, Linux, FreeBSD ,
multiboot,
EFI  and Windows
CE  images.

In addition, it is scriptable and can load COMBOOT and COM32
SYSLINUXextensions. This allows
for instance to build a graphical menu for network
boot.
Vitality

gPXE development has stalled
recently[3],
and several projects are
migrating[4]or
considering migrating
[5] to
iPXE  as a result.
See also
 [image: Portal-puzzle.svg]
*Free software portal *

   - PXELINUX 
   - Coreboot 
   - iPXE 

External links

   - etherboot.org - The Etherboot/gPXE
Wiki
   - ROM-o-matic.net dynamically generates gPXE and Etherboot network
   booting image 
   - Introduction to Network Booting and
Etherboot
   - PXE dust: scalable day-to-day diskless
booting

References

   1. *^
   * Google TechTalk demonstrates how to load operating systems from remote
   servers using gPXE 
   2. 
*^
   * Booting your machine over HTTP 
   3. *^

Re: Hey Festers - Let's Build a gPXE Build Server for the Installfest

[Technomage Hawke]

heh,
ok. I use VM's here a lot because I don't have a large number of machines to 
use anymore. I haven't tried creating a PXE server though. that would be 
something new. and yeah, I suspect that booting PXE over the internet would not 
be doable except on a very secure, very fat pipe. :)

anyway, it would be something new for me to learn.

-Eric

On Dec 29, 2010, at 11:01 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote:

> Thanks Technomage,
> 
> That's not exactly what we require.  A VM of what?  Laugh!  
> 
> I can build a VM also, but why would I, when I can just build the system and 
> configure the gPXE quicker?
> 
> On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 10:33 PM, Technomage Hawke 
>  wrote:
> Lisa,
> I could build a vm for that if you want. I could even give ssh access to it 
> on a non-standard port if needed. I already have a vm of ubuntu already 
> installed here. otherwise, I can save it off as an image and we can dd it to 
> a new drive from a dvd.
> 
> let me know.
> 
> -Eric
> 
> On Dec 29, 2010, at 9:35 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote:
> 
> > I promised to assist by building a gPXE build server for the Installfest.
> >
> > So, we want to coordinate efforts and request suggestions.
> > (Thanks so much Joseph Sinclair for your good advice).
> >
> > When do we want to build her?
> > What is the target hardware?
> >
> > Other information we might need?
> >
> > Wifi card?  Any donations over and above what's available?
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Re: Hey Festers - Let's Build a gPXE Build Server for the Installfest

[Michael Havens]

Boy, go I wish I was in the valley.

On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote:

> Thanks Technomage,
>
> That's not exactly what we require.  A VM of what?  Laugh!
>
> I can build a VM also, but why would I, when I can just build the system
> and configure the gPXE quicker?
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 10:33 PM, Technomage Hawke <
> technomage.ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Lisa,
>> I could build a vm for that if you want. I could even give ssh access to
>> it on a non-standard port if needed. I already have a vm of ubuntu already
>> installed here. otherwise, I can save it off as an image and we can dd it to
>> a new drive from a dvd.
>>
>> let me know.
>>
>> -Eric
>>
>> On Dec 29, 2010, at 9:35 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote:
>>
>> > I promised to assist by building a gPXE build server for the
>> Installfest.
>> >
>> > So, we want to coordinate efforts and request suggestions.
>> > (Thanks so much Joseph Sinclair for your good advice).
>> >
>> > When do we want to build her?
>> > What is the target hardware?
>> >
>> > Other information we might need?
>> >
>> > Wifi card?  Any donations over and above what's available?
>> >
>> > Let's start making the list and make this nice?
>> >
>> > Drive Space?
>> > TB at least?
>> >
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Re: Hey Festers - Let's Build a gPXE Build Server for the Installfest

[Lisa Kachold]

Thanks Technomage,

That's not exactly what we require.  A VM of what?  Laugh!

I can build a VM also, but why would I, when I can just build the system and
configure the gPXE quicker?

On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 10:33 PM, Technomage Hawke <
technomage.ha...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Lisa,
> I could build a vm for that if you want. I could even give ssh access to it
> on a non-standard port if needed. I already have a vm of ubuntu already
> installed here. otherwise, I can save it off as an image and we can dd it to
> a new drive from a dvd.
>
> let me know.
>
> -Eric
>
> On Dec 29, 2010, at 9:35 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote:
>
> > I promised to assist by building a gPXE build server for the Installfest.
> >
> > So, we want to coordinate efforts and request suggestions.
> > (Thanks so much Joseph Sinclair for your good advice).
> >
> > When do we want to build her?
> > What is the target hardware?
> >
> > Other information we might need?
> >
> > Wifi card?  Any donations over and above what's available?
> >
> > Let's start making the list and make this nice?
> >
> > Drive Space?
> > TB at least?
> >
> >
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Re: Hey Festers - Let's Build a gPXE Build Server for the Installfest

[Technomage Hawke]

Lisa,
I could build a vm for that if you want. I could even give ssh access to it on 
a non-standard port if needed. I already have a vm of ubuntu already installed 
here. otherwise, I can save it off as an image and we can dd it to a new drive 
from a dvd.

let me know.

-Eric

On Dec 29, 2010, at 9:35 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote:

> I promised to assist by building a gPXE build server for the Installfest.
> 
> So, we want to coordinate efforts and request suggestions. 
> (Thanks so much Joseph Sinclair for your good advice).
> 
> When do we want to build her?  
> What is the target hardware?  
> 
> Other information we might need? 
> 
> Wifi card?  Any donations over and above what's available?
> 
> Let's start making the list and make this nice?
> 
> Drive Space?
> TB at least?
> 
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Re: Hey Festers - Let's Build a gPXE Build Server for the Installfest

[Stephen]

So this will be a multiple os build server for use at install fests?

PXE boot. Select dist and off it goes?

With repository for some updates this could be huge, or we talking core
install only.

I definately have some hardware I would be willing to donate.

How much horsepower will we need. An opteron 1212 or more?
On Dec 29, 2010 9:36 PM, "Lisa Kachold"  wrote:
> I promised to assist by building a gPXE build server for the Installfest.
>
> So, we want to coordinate efforts and request suggestions.
> (Thanks so much Joseph Sinclair for your good advice).
>
> When do we want to build her?
> What is the target hardware?
>
> Other information we might need?
>
> Wifi card? Any donations over and above what's available?
>
> Let's start making the list and make this nice?
>
> Drive Space?
> TB at least?
>
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Hey Festers - Let's Build a gPXE Build Server for the Installfest

[Lisa Kachold]

I promised to assist by building a gPXE build server for the Installfest.

So, we want to coordinate efforts and request suggestions.
(Thanks so much Joseph Sinclair for your good advice).

When do we want to build her?
What is the target hardware?

Other information we might need?

Wifi card?  Any donations over and above what's available?

Let's start making the list and make this nice?

Drive Space?
TB at least?


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Re: PLUG Steering (Was: Re: hey jmz! (and the rest of you guys!) :))

[Technomage]

On 7/18/10 9:57 AM, Alan Dayley wrote:


OK.  I joined PLUG in May, 2000.  It has a Steering Committee then and
has had one continuously to today.  Maybe you are referring to
pre-2000 time.

   

oh yeah.  hmm, I thought it had disbanded. teaches me to pay attention . :)


Confession: The current truth is that the Steering Committee is
semi-active.  I have mostly moved on to other community groups
(Ignite Phoenix, Gangplank events, Phoenix Scrum User Group).  Others
have been busy with many things.  From my point of view, the Steering
Committee needs to become more active again.  I am not the one to
drive that as I have my free time focus elsewhere.
   
heheh. yeah. lately, I am in that boat. Trying to find a job (any job) 
that will pay the bills.
   

That founding occurred back in mid 1998. most of the list didn't start
getting seriously archived until early 1999.
 

I understand it was founded earlier than that, around 1996.  Rusty
Carruth was one of the original PLUG members.  I work with him at my
employment.  I'll have to ask him Monday about the founding date.
   
ok. I may be a couple of years off. my memory has been kinda shot lately 
(when I have difficulty

with even simple bash scripting, there is a problem).
   

I kn ow Der.hans was pretty much in there from  the beginning (you still on
list Hans?).
 

Hans is still around.  He posts about meetings, etc. in this list
quite regularly.  He chairs bi-monthly PLUG planning meetings on IRC
every other Sunday evening.  He's still working for the group.

   
hmm. ok, looks like I need to check my mail settings. I am not seeing 
some of the plug list(

spamassassin may need clearing again).

I haven't seen any notices for a west side meeting in
some time though
(you still doing that tuna?).
 

West side meetings now take place at DeVry University, when there is
someone to make sure there is a speaker.  They have not always been
held every month of late because of a lack of a solid organizer.
Hopefully that will change.
   

I hope so. I really miss hitting the meetings.

Calls for west side speakers and meeting organizers go out every
month, usually written by Hans.

   

hey Hans, speak up and say Hi will ya? :)

Anyway, we need to get the groove back. this list has started getting 
quiet. more tech discussions and news

linux related. :)

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Re: hey jmz! (and the rest of you guys!) :)

[Technomage]

On 7/18/10 5:04 AM, Tuna wrote:


This Wednesday at Buffalo Wings&  Rings on Dysart&  Thomas. See you there?

   

hehe if I can get a ride. I can't count on the roomies here as they tend 
not to like to go anywhere that

doesn't specifically involve them.

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PLUG Steering (Was: Re: hey jmz! (and the rest of you guys!) :))

[Alan Dayley]

On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 2:56 AM, Technomage  wrote:
> just found your blog man (I was trying to locate when  plug was officially
> founded).
> I noticed that you mentioned:
>  "Some claim that there is a Steering Committee associated with PLUG,
> however the names of the members of this group have never been released to
> the public."

- PLUG has a Steering Committee.
- The names of the members of this committee have been "released to
the public" and often.
-- At one time we had a page on the web site about the organization of
the group.  As author of that page, I know the names of the Steering
Committee members were on that page.  I don't think that page exists
anymore, lost in the transitions to new CMS iterations.
-- When I led the PLUG Developer Meeting, I would regularly describe
the Steering Committee and name it's members as part of the meeting
introduction.  I would do this even if only one new person was
attending.
- The names of the committee members have been published in this list
incidental to other discussions, I'm sure.  Though I'm not going to go
hunt the archives.
- Members:
-- Hans Krugeler (sorry about the spelling) is the Chairperson
-- Alan Dayley (I am nearly inactive, as you may have noticed)
-- Brian Cluff
-- Joseph Sinclair

We had a three other members who have moved away but provided
excellent support for group activities during their time with the
committee.

> I can conform that there was in  fact a "steering committee" (I should know,
> I was on it).
> I have long since forgotten the names of the others on it. The committee was
> disbanded shortly after
> the members agreed to a base set of rules to found plug as a 'semi
> professional"
> community oriented Linux users group.

OK.  I joined PLUG in May, 2000.  It has a Steering Committee then and
has had one continuously to today.  Maybe you are referring to
pre-2000 time.

Confession: The current truth is that the Steering Committee is
semi-active.  I have mostly moved on to other community groups
(Ignite Phoenix, Gangplank events, Phoenix Scrum User Group).  Others
have been busy with many things.  From my point of view, the Steering
Committee needs to become more active again.  I am not the one to
drive that as I have my free time focus elsewhere.

> That founding occurred back in mid 1998. most of the list didn't start
> getting seriously archived until early 1999.

I understand it was founded earlier than that, around 1996.  Rusty
Carruth was one of the original PLUG members.  I work with him at my
employment.  I'll have to ask him Monday about the founding date.

> I kn ow Der.hans was pretty much in there from  the beginning (you still on
> list Hans?).

Hans is still around.  He posts about meetings, etc. in this list
quite regularly.  He chairs bi-monthly PLUG planning meetings on IRC
every other Sunday evening.  He's still working for the group.

>I haven't seen any notices for a west side meeting in
> some time though
> (you still doing that tuna?).

West side meetings now take place at DeVry University, when there is
someone to make sure there is a speaker.  They have not always been
held every month of late because of a lack of a solid organizer.
Hopefully that will change.

Calls for west side speakers and meeting organizers go out every
month, usually written by Hans.

> anyway, I thought I'd pop on list and remind you guys that some of us old
> guard are still about.

Thanks!

Alan
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Re: hey jmz! (and the rest of you guys!) :)

[Tuna]

Excerpts from Technomage's message of Sun Jul 18 02:56:40 -0700 2010:
> just found your blog man (I was trying to locate when  plug was 
> officially founded).
> I noticed that you mentioned:
>   "Some claim that there is a Steering Committee associated with PLUG,
> however the names of the members of this group have never been released 
> to the public."
> 
> I can conform that there was in  fact a "steering committee" (I should 
> know, I was on it).
> I have long since forgotten the names of the others on it. The committee 
> was disbanded shortly after
> the members agreed to a base set of rules to found plug as a 'semi 
> professional"
> community oriented Linux users group.
> 
> That founding occurred back in mid 1998. most of the list didn't start 
> getting seriously archived until early 1999.
> 
> I kn ow Der.hans was pretty much in there from  the beginning (you still 
> on list Hans?).
> 
> About 4 years ago, I quit coming to the east side meetings 
> (transportation was an issue and as I am visually impaired,
> driving was out of the question). I have been mostly listening on this 
> list for some long time.
> 
> anyway, there's been a lot of technical stuff on here over the years 
> (and some x-posting from AZIPA and
> a few other groups linux related).
> 
> These days, I am mostly on OS X but i do putter around with linux under 
> virtualbox. I seem to
> have fallen off the learning wagon and am now trying to get back into 
> the "scene" as it were
> (and its a long climb and a lot of bad habits to undo). I really wish i 
> could get some  rides to
> the east side meetings but given i am still out here at 83rd ave. near 
> Indianschool road, its going
> to be hard to arrange. I haven't seen any notices for a west side 
> meeting in some time though
> (you still doing that tuna?).
> 

This Wednesday at Buffalo Wings & Rings on Dysart & Thomas. See you there?

> anyway, I thought I'd pop on list and remind you guys that some of us 
> old guard are still about.
> 
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hey jmz! (and the rest of you guys!) :)

[Technomage]

just found your blog man (I was trying to locate when  plug was 
officially founded).

I noticed that you mentioned:
 "Some claim that there is a Steering Committee associated with PLUG,
however the names of the members of this group have never been released 
to the public."


I can conform that there was in  fact a "steering committee" (I should 
know, I was on it).
I have long since forgotten the names of the others on it. The committee 
was disbanded shortly after
the members agreed to a base set of rules to found plug as a 'semi 
professional"

community oriented Linux users group.

That founding occurred back in mid 1998. most of the list didn't start 
getting seriously archived until early 1999.


I kn ow Der.hans was pretty much in there from  the beginning (you still 
on list Hans?).


About 4 years ago, I quit coming to the east side meetings 
(transportation was an issue and as I am visually impaired,
driving was out of the question). I have been mostly listening on this 
list for some long time.


anyway, there's been a lot of technical stuff on here over the years 
(and some x-posting from AZIPA and

a few other groups linux related).

These days, I am mostly on OS X but i do putter around with linux under 
virtualbox. I seem to
have fallen off the learning wagon and am now trying to get back into 
the "scene" as it were
(and its a long climb and a lot of bad habits to undo). I really wish i 
could get some  rides to
the east side meetings but given i am still out here at 83rd ave. near 
Indianschool road, its going
to be hard to arrange. I haven't seen any notices for a west side 
meeting in some time though

(you still doing that tuna?).

anyway, I thought I'd pop on list and remind you guys that some of us 
old guard are still about.


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Re: Hey.

[keith smith]

I think you could have chosen a better reference!

Keith Smith


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Re: Hey.

[mark]

Happy New Year!
Mark
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Happy New Years Mike! 2010 is going to be GREAT!

Check out my new Arizona Wiki Satire Page, rewritten for the New Year:
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In case you miss Arizona!

On 12/31/09, mike havens  wrote:
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Re: Hey.

[mike havens]

I live in Cornville, Arizona now.

On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote:

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Re: Hey.

[Lisa Kachold]

Happy New Years Mike! 2010 is going to be GREAT!

Check out my new Arizona Wiki Satire Page, rewritten for the New Year:
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In case you miss Arizona!

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Hey.

[mike havens]

Happy new year geeks and geeketes (and you geek wanabees).

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Re: Hey.

[Lisa Kachold]

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/New_Threat_to_Christmas

Pooping Linux Penguins?  OMG

On 12/26/09, AZ RUNE  wrote:
> Merry (Insert Holiday Here) Day
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> Brian
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[AZ RUNE]

Merry (Insert Holiday Here) Day

Brian
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Re: Hey.

[Stephen]

i just gave this to a friend of mine, a Linux sysadmin

http://www.kleargear.com/1482.html


On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 9:59 PM, Joshua Zeidner  wrote:
>  you're going to see some REALLY good deals in the next month at the
> computer stores.  I think you'll be seeing a lot of laptops drop below
> $200.
>
>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w4xECgTYkE
>
>  -jmz
>
> On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Tuna  wrote:
>> This thread is now about our Linux-related $holiday presents.
>>
>> Mine: http://system76.com/product_info.php?cPath=28&products_id=97
>>
>> Really nice, come to the Avondale stammtisch and you'll get to see it in 
>> person.
>>
>> Excerpts from mike havens's message of Fri Dec 25 16:19:00 -0700 2009:
>>> Merry Christmas everyone!
>>>
>>> If you don't like Christmas happy whatever.
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Re: Hey.

[Joshua Zeidner]

  you're going to see some REALLY good deals in the next month at the
computer stores.  I think you'll be seeing a lot of laptops drop below
$200.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w4xECgTYkE

  -jmz

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>
> Mine: http://system76.com/product_info.php?cPath=28&products_id=97
>
> Really nice, come to the Avondale stammtisch and you'll get to see it in 
> person.
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Re: Hey.

[Tuna]

This thread is now about our Linux-related $holiday presents.

Mine: http://system76.com/product_info.php?cPath=28&products_id=97

Really nice, come to the Avondale stammtisch and you'll get to see it in person.

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Re: Hey.

[Stephen]

happy holidays then :-)

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Hey.

[mike havens]

Merry Christmas everyone!

If you don't like Christmas happy whatever.

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Re: hey i found a new toy for iceweasel

[Kristian Erik Hermansen]

On Feb 5, 2008 12:28 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Uhh...I wonder how many other mail providers or programs/suites this
> vulnerability applies to.  I just got a new e-mail account and it does
> the
> full-time https thing.  Considering that my internet connection goes
> over our 802.11b system in the clear, the thought of those session ID's
> and
> passwords going in the clear worries me, especially with the number of
> people I see getting DHCP leases (but not past the captive portal) on
> our system!
> And those are just the ones dumb enough to be seen...

Yeah, if you are really caring about security, you would tunnel
everything over ssh :-)  I think you should implement
unspidedownternet or blurrynet for your free wifi users...heh
http://ex-parrot.com/~pete/upside-down-ternet.html
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Re: hey i found a new toy for iceweasel

[storkus]

Uhh...I wonder how many other mail providers or programs/suites this
vulnerability applies to.  I just got a new e-mail account and it does
the
full-time https thing.  Considering that my internet connection goes
over our 802.11b system in the clear, the thought of those session ID's
and
passwords going in the clear worries me, especially with the number of
people I see getting DHCP leases (but not past the captive portal) on
our system!
And those are just the ones dumb enough to be seen...

Mike

On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 21:18:23 -0800, "Kristian Erik Hermansen"
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> On Feb 4, 2008 9:00 PM, Micah DesJardins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If you use
> >
> > https://mail.google.com
> >
> > instead of http://mail.google.com it remains encrypted after you log in.
> 
> This is not necessarily true.  There have been attacks in which Google
> session ids can be compromised if for a time HTTPS is disrupted.
> Google then attempts to utilize the non-https session and exposed the
> id, which can then be used to log into the account without a user/pass
> combo...
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Re: hey i found a new toy for iceweasel

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On Feb 4, 2008 9:00 PM, Micah DesJardins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you use
>
> https://mail.google.com
>
> instead of http://mail.google.com it remains encrypted after you log in.

This is not necessarily true.  There have been attacks in which Google
session ids can be compromised if for a time HTTPS is disrupted.
Google then attempts to utilize the non-https session and exposed the
id, which can then be used to log into the account without a user/pass
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Re: hey i found a new toy for iceweasel

[Micah DesJardins]

If you use

https://mail.google.com

instead of http://mail.google.com it remains encrypted after you log in.


Micah
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hey i found a new toy for iceweasel

[gm5729]

For all those who like encrypted connections with gmail I've gotta new
toy. It's called better gmail2 and is an extension that has one
function i want to most... constant encrypted connection for your
email instead of just at login.
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Re: hey

[Joshua Zeidner]

  hmm... how did that happen?  sorry folks!

   -jmz


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> On Fri, 2007-08-10 at 12:12 -0700, Joshua Zeidner wrote:
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> No problem, take your time.
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> --Ted
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Re: hey

[Ted Gould]

On Fri, 2007-08-10 at 12:12 -0700, Joshua Zeidner wrote:
> got your message... ill get back to you soon. thanks, jmz

No problem, take your time.

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hey

[Joshua Zeidner]

got your message... ill get back to you soon. thanks, jmz


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