Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] OSX Mountain Lion sleep issues

2012-08-19 Thread jdwek

I am surprised you say the bug has been around for years.  When I had
Lion 10.7 my media server played fine.  From my understanding ML took
the sleep issue to an extreme and now LMS does not prevent sleep.  I
wonder if the problem is related to the lack of a PowerNap firmware
addition that allows continued had disk function while sleeping on
Laptops.  Powernap is not available as yet on desktops.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2012-08-19 Thread mfo

gharris999 wrote: 
 
 ..and that's all there is to it.  Your NAS power/mount state will now be
 slaved to your Squeezebox power state.

Wow, thanks a bunch for the extended and documented reply. I'm going to
look into both plugins you suggested. The only LMS plugin I leverage in
my current setup is the xPL one, choice was obvious as my home
automation is based on that protocol.

Regards
Marc



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] OSX Mountain Lion sleep issues

2012-08-19 Thread danco

As I understand it, under ML hard drive activity does not prevent
sleep.

Previously, it was *supposed* to prevent sleep, but this worked for some
people and not for others.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] OSX Mountain Lion sleep issues

2012-08-19 Thread nonnoroger

jdwek wrote: 
 I am surprised you say the bug has been around for years.  When I had
 Lion 10.7 my media server played fine.  From my understanding ML took
 the sleep issue to an extreme and now LMS does not prevent sleep.  I
 wonder if the problem is related to the lack of a PowerNap firmware
 addition that allows continued had disk function while sleeping on
 Laptops.  Powernap is not available as yet on desktops.

On Bugzilla you may have noticed that the original bug report goes back
to 2008.

Perhaps you have your idle timeout set quite long (mine is on just 10
minutes)? The problem originally was with the SB Server letting Macs go
to sleep when the idle timer expires. This led third party plugin
developers (notably Gordon Harris with ReallyPreventStandby) to step in.
That plugin itself has not been ideal (on the Mac, repeatedly spawning a
utility try and keep the Mac from sleeping) and Gordon has acknowledged
limitations on this thread.

Before Mountain Lion, the behaviour (most of the time) was that once
woken up from sleep by a Squeezebox the server would stay awake until
the idle timeout. Now with ML it seems that if the Mac was already in
idle sleep then it will not wait another idle timeout period. Also, the
scheme used by ReallyPreventStandby no longer works.

So yes, more people are now noticing that LMS fails to tell OSX to stay
awake while playing with Mountain Lion, but the fundamental problem has
been around for a long time. Since OSX 10.6 developers have been given a
simple way to indicate that the idle sleep setting should be ignored.
Now with 10.8 this has become critical.

To see what iTunes does while playing run pmset -g in a command window.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] OSX Mountain Lion sleep issues

2012-08-19 Thread nonnoroger

danco wrote: 
 As I understand it, under ML hard drive activity does not prevent
 sleep.
 
 Previously, it was *supposed* to prevent sleep, but this worked for some
 people and not for others.

And, of course, nowadays it is not just playing local media from the
hard drive, but also BBC Radio and Spotify via the local server as with
Triode's plugins.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread

2012-08-19 Thread pallfreeman

Owen Smith wrote: 
 What iPeng cache? It didn't even know it had one, and now I don't know
 have to clear it.

Settings-iPeng Settings-Flush Cache

Can't do any harm...



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread

2012-08-19 Thread pippin

Owen Smith wrote: 
 LMS completes a scan fine according to scanner.log. I have it set to do
 a full rescan daily at 6AM.
 
 What iPeng cache? It didn't even know it had one, and now I don't know
 have to clear it.

You can't see that in scanner.log, automatic, incremental scans while
browsing folders go into server.log, not scanner.log. You can only see
it in the web interface in Settings-Information.

iPeng caches Artwork, Albums, Albums sorted by Artist, Artists, Genres
and Playlists. It doesn't cache folders.

But there's something else here: your daily clear  rescan. Is it
after that that iPeng doesn't work anymore?
Did you try the fresh start from root folder thing?
The reason I'm asking is that after a clear  rescan, your whole
folder structure is invalid and yes, you can not play it then, it's no
longer there, you have to start getting a new folder structure from the
beginning. iPeng might not check for that when it sees that you have
rescanned the library, it might be difficult to do so, too, because each
browse action in the folder structure is a potential rescan.

What confuses me is that you say you can still browse up and down. Up
should still work (going up just closes a lower level menu) but you
should no longer be able to open another folder, that's weird. Maybe the
server still somehow keeps a copy of the old folder around?

Generally, doing a clear  rescan too often is not a good idea. The
server keeps a lot of internal caches, especially artwork thumbnails,
which will have to be re-created every day this way. This will slow down
your overall operation considerably.
And actually I especially don't understand it since you don't use the
tags anyway, don't you? When browsing by folder structure, the server
always rescans each folder anyway, so no need for a rescan, let alone a
clearrescan.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Need help to test Custom Scan with support for new/changed scanning

2012-08-19 Thread PasTim

Hi Erland - 

is there likely to be any progress with version 3?  It'd be really nice
to have fast scans for minor changes/additions if possible.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Spotify Premium Plugin (Beta)

2012-08-19 Thread danny041

Hi Triode,
I have had your app (and the official one) working as a charm since day
one. Never had any problems at all, until yesterday?! Now nothing works
at all, and I get different errors all the time so it is hard to do a
good root cause analysis of the problem. 

Background: Have not changed or altered anything. I am running Logitech
media server on a mac mini updated to Mountain lion a couple of days
ago, so maybe that could be the error. I have an airport extreme as a
router. The firewall is off (and has always been). I have two squeezebox
duet and one squeezebox radio.

One time i get the error can' play file type when trying to play
spotify songs. The other time the track starts playing (no sound output
though) and after between 3-5 secs it skips to next track. This
continues and I can't even paus it. Need to soft-shut-down the player in
order to make this loop stop. Also when doing this, the web interface
for LMS becomes really slow. I have run the auto self test which gives
me different answers randomly. It clears the four first steps (most of
the time. Some time it says that helper app isn't installed, usually
when the server response time is really slow) but it always fail on the
last step, giving the reason that the player is unable to connect, or
that it can't stream due to that always stream via helper isn't enabled.


I have tried both changing port (between 9000 and 9005, which I have
never had any problem with before.
I have also tried checking and unchecking the always stream via helper
(which has never been checked before). 
I have tried to uninstall both the offical and your app through
unchecking them in the web interface, but I realize that this is not a
full uninstall since it remember my login details when i check them
again. 
I have then tried to install just one of the apps, then both, but to no
help. I have managed to get the official app to work, but only on my
squeezebox radio, not when trying to synchronize with more players
(never a problem before).

I have tried searching online, which is why I have done the above trial
and error-things. 

I am therefore in a really bad spot, and would really appreciate some
help. Any help, or tip, at all. If someone just tell me what kind of
logs they would like to see, I will post them. I have gone through the
log-reports myself but it doesn't tell me much, other than that it does
not work (for some reason.

Thanks in advance for any tip, clue, guidance or assistance that could
help me out of this mess, that has created itself out of thin air.

Best Regards
Daniel



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread

2012-08-19 Thread Owen Smith

pippin wrote: 
 You can't see that in scanner.log, automatic, incremental scans while
 browsing folders go into server.log, not scanner.log. You can only see
 it in the web interface in Settings-Information.
 
 iPeng caches Artwork, Albums, Albums sorted by Artist, Artists, Genres
 and Playlists. It doesn't cache folders.
 
 But there's something else here: your daily clear  rescan. Is it
 after that that iPeng doesn't work anymore?
 Did you try the fresh start from root folder thing?
 The reason I'm asking is that after a clear  rescan, your whole
 folder structure is invalid and yes, you can not play it then, it's no
 longer there, you have to start getting a new folder structure from the
 beginning. iPeng might not check for that when it sees that you have
 rescanned the library, it might be difficult to do so, too, because each
 browse action in the folder structure is a potential rescan.
 
 What confuses me is that you say you can still browse up and down. Up
 should still work (going up just closes a lower level menu) but you
 should no longer be able to open another folder, that's weird. Maybe the
 server still somehow keeps a copy of the old folder around?
 
 Generally, doing a clear  rescan too often is not a good idea. The
 server keeps a lot of internal caches, especially artwork thumbnails,
 which will have to be re-created every day this way. This will slow down
 your overall operation considerably.
 And actually I especially don't understand it since you don't use the
 tags anyway, don't you? When browsing by folder structure, the server
 always rescans each folder anyway, so no need for a rescan, let alone a
 clearrescan.

How do I start fresh from the root folder on iPeng? If I select Music
Folder it just re-displays what was displayed before.

I don't understand what you mean about the folder structure not being
there. These are just files and directories on disc, they're always
there.

I can definitely browse folders up and down, I do this until iPeng
crashes. I could do with a button that lets me quit iPeng, that would be
a lot quicker.

I use tags sometimes. Half my music is my CDs ripped which are all
properly tagged. The other half is downloads of bootleg concerts, these
are rarely tagged and if they are they're usually wrong.

I have the daily rescan because I got sick to death of forgetting to
scan after ripping a CD or downloading something. It's a pain needing to
remember. My Downloads share is where torrents are moved to after they
complete, so if the torrent completes I just have to wait until the next
6AM and there it is all scanned.

As for the various caches, I wish they weren't there as they cause no
end of trouble and often have to be flushed or manually deleted. I don't
know why LMS bothers with them.

I did not know that browsing by folder doesn't need a server scan. I
thought it needed a scan to pick up the artwork. It certainly does if I
change any of the artwork, it won't forget the old artwork until the
next scan (damned caches again).

My LMS is running on a 1.6GHz Intel Atom Windows Home Server V1 box with
2GB RAM. Performance is not a problem.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread

2012-08-19 Thread Owen Smith

pallfreeman wrote: 
 Settings-iPeng Settings-Flush Cache
 
 Can't do any harm...

Done. I also noted while in there I have Native Music Folders enabled,
the help text says this is a good thing but mentions possible problems.
Is this what I'm experiencing?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Spotify Premium Plugin (Beta)

2012-08-19 Thread danny041

posting parts from server.log if that coudl help anyone

[12-08-19 17:42:45.7075] Slim::Control::XMLBrowser::_cliQuery_error
(1653) Error: While retrieving
[http://www.mysqueezebox.com/api/spotify/v1/opml]: [Timed out waiting
for data]
[12-08-19 17:42:53.5463]
Plugins::Spotify::ProtocolHandler::handleDirectError (331) stream failed
- bad player: -1
[12-08-19 17:42:58.5115] Plugins::Spotify::ProtocolHandler::__ANON__
(213) error fetching track data: Timed out waiting for data
[12-08-19 17:42:59.2205] Plugins::Spotify::ProtocolHandler::__ANON__
(213) error fetching track data: Timed out waiting for data
[12-08-19 17:42:59.] Plugins::Spotify::ProtocolHandler::__ANON__
(213) error fetching track data: Timed out waiting for data
[12-08-19 17:42:59.2224] Plugins::Spotify::Spotifyd::relogin (211)
requesting relogin
[12-08-19 17:42:59.2241] Plugins::Spotify::ProtocolHandler::__ANON__
(213) error fetching track data: Timed out waiting for data
[12-08-19 17:42:59.2251] Plugins::Spotify::ProtocolHandler::__ANON__
(213) error fetching track data: Timed out waiting for data
[12-08-19 17:43:33.5148] Plugins::Spotify::ProtocolHandler::__ANON__
(213) error fetching track data: Timed out waiting for data
[12-08-19 17:43:34.2276] Plugins::Spotify::ProtocolHandler::__ANON__
(213) error fetching track data: Timed out waiting for data
[12-08-19 17:43:34.2287] Plugins::Spotify::ProtocolHandler::__ANON__
(213) error fetching track data: Timed out waiting for data
[12-08-19 17:43:34.2295] Plugins::Spotify::ProtocolHandler::__ANON__
(213) error fetching track data: Timed out waiting for data
[12-08-19 17:43:34.2296] Plugins::Spotify::Spotifyd::relogin (211)
requesting relogin
[12-08-19 17:43:34.2309] Plugins::Spotify::ProtocolHandler::__ANON__
(213) error fetching track data: Timed out waiting for data
[12-08-19 17:44:01.7543]
Plugins::Spotify::ProtocolHandler::handleDirectError (331) stream failed
- bad player: -1
[12-08-19 17:44:08.5180] Plugins::Spotify::ProtocolHandler::__ANON__
(213) error fetching track data: Timed out waiting for data
[12-08-19 17:44:09.2331] Plugins::Spotify::ProtocolHandler::__ANON__
(213) error fetching track data: Timed out waiting for data
[12-08-19 17:44:09.2467] Plugins::Spotify::ProtocolHandler::__ANON__
(213) error fetching track data: Timed out waiting for data
[12-08-19 17:44:09.2477] Plugins::Spotify::ProtocolHandler::__ANON__
(213) error fetching track data: Timed out waiting for data
[12-08-19 17:44:09.2485] Plugins::Spotify::ProtocolHandler::__ANON__
(213) error fetching track data: Timed out waiting for data
[12-08-19 17:44:09.2486] Plugins::Spotify::Spotifyd::relogin (211)
requesting relogin



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Spotify Premium Plugin (Beta)

2012-08-19 Thread Triode

danny041 wrote: 
 posting parts from server.log if that coudl help anyone
 
 [12-08-19 17:42:45.7075] Slim::Control::XMLBrowser::_cliQuery_error
 (1653) Error: While retrieving
 [http://www.mysqueezebox.com/api/spotify/v1/opml]: [Timed out waiting
 for data]
 [12-08-19 17:42:53.5463]
 Plugins::Spotify::ProtocolHandler::handleDirectError (331) stream failed
 - bad player: -1
 [12-08-19 17:42:58.5115] Plugins::Spotify::ProtocolHandler::__ANON__
 (213) error fetching track data: Timed out waiting for data
 [12-08-19 17:42:59.2205] Plugins::Spotify::ProtocolHandler::__ANON__
 (213) error fetching track data: Timed out waiting for data
 [12-08-19 17:42:59.] Plugins::Spotify::ProtocolHandler::__ANON__
 (213) error fetching track data: Timed out waiting for data
 [12-08-19 17:42:59.2224] Plugins::Spotify::Spotifyd::relogin (211)
 requesting relogin
 [12-08-19 17:42:59.2241] Plugins::Spotify::ProtocolHandler::__ANON__
 (213) error fetching track data: Timed out waiting for data
 [12-08-19 17:42:59.2251] Plugins::Spotify::ProtocolHandler::__ANON__
 (213) error fetching track data: Timed out waiting for data
 [12-08-19 17:43:33.5148] Plugins::Spotify::ProtocolHandler::__ANON__
 (213) error fetching track data: Timed out waiting for data
 [12-08-19 17:43:34.2276] Plugins::Spotify::ProtocolHandler::__ANON__
 (213) error fetching track data: Timed out waiting for data
 [12-08-19 17:43:34.2287] Plugins::Spotify::ProtocolHandler::__ANON__
 (213) error fetching track data: Timed out waiting for data
 [12-08-19 17:43:34.2295] Plugins::Spotify::ProtocolHandler::__ANON__
 (213) error fetching track data: Timed out waiting for data
 [12-08-19 17:43:34.2296] Plugins::Spotify::Spotifyd::relogin (211)
 requesting relogin
 [12-08-19 17:43:34.2309] Plugins::Spotify::ProtocolHandler::__ANON__
 (213) error fetching track data: Timed out waiting for data
 [12-08-19 17:44:01.7543]
 Plugins::Spotify::ProtocolHandler::handleDirectError (331) stream failed
 - bad player: -1
 [12-08-19 17:44:08.5180] Plugins::Spotify::ProtocolHandler::__ANON__
 (213) error fetching track data: Timed out waiting for data
 [12-08-19 17:44:09.2331] Plugins::Spotify::ProtocolHandler::__ANON__
 (213) error fetching track data: Timed out waiting for data
 [12-08-19 17:44:09.2467] Plugins::Spotify::ProtocolHandler::__ANON__
 (213) error fetching track data: Timed out waiting for data
 [12-08-19 17:44:09.2477] Plugins::Spotify::ProtocolHandler::__ANON__
 (213) error fetching track data: Timed out waiting for data
 [12-08-19 17:44:09.2485] Plugins::Spotify::ProtocolHandler::__ANON__
 (213) error fetching track data: Timed out waiting for data
 [12-08-19 17:44:09.2486] Plugins::Spotify::Spotifyd::relogin (211)
 requesting relogin

First error message is related to the official plugin, not this one.

The bad player message is because cli is not working - make sure that
the server cli plugin is enabled and the helper app is able to make cli
queries to the server through your firewall.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread

2012-08-19 Thread pallfreeman

Owen Smith wrote: 
 Done. I also noted while in there I have Native Music Folders enabled,
 the help text says this is a good thing but mentions possible problems.
 Is this what I'm experiencing?

Dunno, but try turning it off. 

Don't try switching it on and off repeatedly like wot I did, cos it
hangs yer iPad. :)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread

2012-08-19 Thread pallfreeman

Owen Smith wrote: 
 I could do with a button that lets me quit iPeng, that would be a lot
 quicker.
 

Press the button once to go home. Double press gives you a list of
running apps. Hold down iPeng until it wiggles then hit the red minus.
Press the button then launch iPeng again. Works for any app.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Spotify Premium Plugin (Beta)

2012-08-19 Thread Triode

Small bug fix release, fixes:
- fix browsing into similar artists when using lastfm for similar
artists
- password setting page should now return when there is a problem with
the spotify connection (it won't set password, but will return)

Please post any comments here.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] OSX Mountain Lion sleep issues

2012-08-19 Thread danco

Yes I first found the issue with BBCiPlayer. But of course it also
happens when playing tracks from a local library on an external drive.

Interestingly, the latest version of Get iPlayer Automator specifically
states that on ML it prevents sleep while downloading.

As for ReallyPreventStandby, I have now followed up my earlier posts,
and have a shell script to prevent standby and one to permit standby
once the SB is idle. I haven't fully checked with Activity Monitor or
the like, but I don't think my inhibit standby script does repeatedly
spawn a process. The trick is, yo check whether a process (my Dummy
application) is already running, and to do nothing if it is.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Spotify Premium Plugin (Beta)

2012-08-19 Thread danny041

Triode wrote: 
 First error message is related to the official plugin, not this one.
 
 The bad player message is because cli is not working - make sure that
 the server cli plugin is enabled and the helper app is able to make cli
 queries to the server through your firewall.

Thanks for quick answer. Sorry for maybe not being initiated - what is
cli and how do i ensure it works/how do I enable it?

Some more log talking about other things, if that could help?
0:12:56.459271] main:1529 relogin requested
[20:12:56.459309] main:1558 resetting streambuf
[20:12:56.459323] _streambuf_reset:84 state IDLE - IDLE
[20:12:56.459813] main:493 new connection
[20:12:56.459856] main:539 req: cover.jpg res:
spotify:image:cef62d1150b4e09f884ca8946c8f5ebbc99a4dd5 par: (null) prot:
HTTP/1.0 auth: (null)
[20:12:56.459869] main:565 waiting for logout to complete
[20:12:57.460894] main:565 waiting for logout to complete
[20:12:58.461996] main:565 waiting for logout to complete
[20:12:59.464414] main:565 waiting for logout to complete
[20:12:59.484433] log_message:80 log: 18:12:59.484 I [offline-mgr:2090]
0 files are locked. 0 images are locked
[20:12:59.484469] log_message:80 log: 18:12:59.484 I [offline-mgr:2116]
0 files unlocked. 0 images unlocked
[20:12:59.489012] logged_out:60 logged out
[20:13:00.490726] main:618 relogging in as user: danny041
[20:13:00.491718] log_message:80 log: 18:13:00.491 I [ap:1766]
Connecting to AP ap.spotify.com:4070
[20:13:00.494196] log_message:80 log: 18:13:00.494 I [ap:1224] Connected
to AP: 78.31.12.90:4070
[20:13:00.506203] log_message:80 log: 18:13:00.506 E [session:856] Not
all tracks cached
[20:13:00.509644] logged_in:53 logged in
[20:13:00.509698] metadata_updated:85 new meta
[20:13:01.512814] write_cover:96 cover fetch: No error
[20:13:01.512930] main:493 new connection
[20:13:01.512964] main:539 req: cover.jpg res:
spotify:image:d7c450ca7b6fb0b06bf3c7ab9defc115c2b01a6a par: (null) prot:
HTTP/1.0 auth: (null)
[20:13:01.513579] write_cover:96 cover fetch: No error
[20:13:01.513660] main:493 new connection
[20:13:01.513687] main:539 req: stream.flc res:
spotify:track:2NDXCksGEDJCRxOKBCREq3 par:
player=00%3A04%3A20%3A16%3A77%3A56start=0sync=2id=54 prot:
SPOTSTREAM/1.0 auth: (null)
[20:13:01.513723] main:727 newstream connection from 10.0.1.57
[20:13:01.513740] main:763 streamid: 0 newid: 54 type: FLAC
[20:13:31.546985] check_player:192 cli connection closed unexpectedly
[20:13:31.547023] main:785 unable to play on this player: -1
[20:13:31.547036] _streambuf_reset:84 state IDLE - IDLE
[20:13:31.547397] main:493 new connection
[20:13:31.547423] main:539 req: stream.flc res:
spotify:track:2NDXCksGEDJCRxOKBCREq3 par:
player=00%3A04%3A20%3A16%3A46%3A20start=0sync=2id=54 prot:
SPOTSTREAM/1.0 auth: (null)
[20:13:31.547453] main:727 newstream connection from 10.0.1.3
[20:13:31.547468] main:763 streamid: 0 newid: 54 type: FLAC

Best Regards
Daniel



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Spotify Premium Plugin (Beta)

2012-08-19 Thread Triode

danny041 wrote: 
 
 [12-08-19 20:48:32.2276] main::init (354) Starting Logitech Media Server
 (v7.7.3, 1342008352, Sat Aug 18 02:01:17 PDT 2012) perl 5.012004
 [12-08-19 20:48:33.6269] Slim::Plugin::CLI::Plugin::cli_socket_open
 (166) Can't setup the listening port 9090: Address already in use
 [12-08-19 20:48:33.6272] Slim::Utils::PluginManager::load (348) Warning:
 Couldn't call Slim::Plugin::CLI::Plugin-initPlugin: Can't setup the
 listening port 9090: Address already in use at
 /Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/server/lib/Log/Log4perl/Logger.pm
 line 900
 [12-08-19 20:48:39.1155] Slim::Plugin::Extensions::Settings::handler
 (33) attempt to set params with band random number - ignoring
 [12-08-19 20:59:35.8849]
 Plugins::Spotify::ProtocolHandler::handleDirectError (331) stream failed
 - bad player: -1
 

This either means you are running the server twice (try restarting the
whole machine to make sure the old version is not there), or you have
something else using port 9090 - change what the cli uses on the
settings, advanced, command line interface tab to be something
other than 9090.  [try the reboot first as often its just an old version
of LMS which causes conflicting ports]



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread

2012-08-19 Thread pippin

Owen Smith wrote: 
 How do I start fresh from the root folder on iPeng? If I select Music
 Folder it just re-displays what was displayed before.
 
I was hoping it would be enough if you re-start browsing from the root
level. Just tap Music Folder twice. If not you might have to
force-quit iPeng and restart it, see pallfreeman's comment on how to do
this.
 
 I don't understand what you mean about the folder structure not being
 there. These are just files and directories on disc, they're always
 there.
 
This is not how the Squeezebox Server/LMS works. And iPeng can't see
your folders (they are on a different machine), it only sees what the
server delivers.
The server scans the library, including folders and such, stores it in a
database and what it sends to iPeng are these database entries. Each
file/folder is the identified by a number, iPeng never actually knows
the path.
If you Clear and Rescan the database gets cleared and all these
numbers iPeng got from the server are no longer valid. That's why you
can't play anything.
You need to get the new entries from the server and you need to do so
from the root level for them to be correct.

In addition to this, the server scans each folder you browse into AGAIN
and then updates it database based on this.

The easiest thing to do is to stop doing these Clear  Rescan runs
every day. They are useless anyway if you use the folder structure and
only cause trouble.
 
 I have the daily rescan because I got sick to death of forgetting to
 scan after ripping a CD or downloading something. It's a pain needing to
 remember. My Downloads share is where torrents are moved to after they
 complete, so if the torrent completes I just have to wait until the next
 6AM and there it is all scanned.
 
But you could do a look for new and changed music instead of the
Clear  Rescan. Then your database will never be cleared and the old
entries stay valid.
 
 As for the various caches, I wish they weren't there as they cause no
 end of trouble and often have to be flushed or manually deleted. I don't
 know why LMS bothers with them.
 
Because it would be unusable on slower systems like NAS which a lot of
users use, without them.
 
 I did not know that browsing by folder doesn't need a server scan. I
 thought it needed a scan to pick up the artwork.
 
Well, that is partly true. It will only pick up the artwork on the
second time you browse there if you don't do the scan.
The only thing for which you need a Clear  Rescan is if you change
folder.jpg files (or similar files in your music folders) without
changing the actual music they belong to.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread

2012-08-19 Thread pippin

Owen Smith wrote: 
 Done. I also noted while in there I have Native Music Folders enabled,
 the help text says this is a good thing but mentions possible problems.
 Is this what I'm experiencing?

The possible problem is that for one (1) user there was an issue where
music was stuttering when he played it using Music Folders because the
server not only scanned the folder when browsing to a folder but also
did so when playing a folder and this caused the stream to stall.
It looks a bit like a problem on the server side, no idea what exactly
caused it (it was an old WinXP machine with a fresh 7.7.2 installation),
but since it was highly reproducible on his setup I added this option in
case others experience the same thing.

You could give it a try but I don't think it will help in your case.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread

2012-08-19 Thread Owen Smith

pippin wrote: 
 The only thing for which you need a Clear  Rescan is if you change
 folder.jpg files (or similar files in your music folders) without
 changing the actual music they belong to.

And that is something I do quite often ie. find some artwork for files
without it or to replace incorrect artwork.

I don't see what is wrong with daily rescans. If I just do the scans on
demand, all that happens is iPeng can't play when I've done a manual
scan. Not much different.

Also I have a SqueezeBox Controller. I don't have any of these problems
with that. How does it manage?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Spotify Premium Plugin (Beta)

2012-08-19 Thread alec_cat

Got Spotify Premium tonight and got it all working through the Touch -
THANKS, Triode! /bow before Triode



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread

2012-08-19 Thread pippin

Owen Smith wrote: 
 You also need a clear and scan if anything is deleted, renamed or moved
 in the directory tree.
 
No, only if that anything is artwork, not for music
 
 I don't see what is wrong with daily rescans. If I just do the scans on
 demand, all that happens is iPeng can't play when I've done a manual
 scan. Not much different.
 
 Also I have a SqueezeBox Controller. I don't have any of these problems
 with that. How does it manage?

I don't know. The problem hasn't occurred to anybody else, yet, so I
never looked into whether it's possible to distinguish a Clear 
Rescan from the incremental scan while browsing.
Did you try the non-native menu? That should behave exactly the same
as the controller.
What does the Controller do, btw, when you do the ClearRescan? Does it
back out to the main menu?



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