Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Qobuz.com streaming plugin

2016-01-02 Thread sebp

Free as in free trial?
It didn't make any difference for me at the time, but to enjoy Qobuz on
your Squeezebox you'll need (at least) a Premium subscription.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Qobuz.com streaming plugin

2015-10-22 Thread sebp

matka wrote: 
> Are you sure about this ?
Definitely. You'll find the cache settings in both the Qobuz Desktop and
Qobuz Music apps' preferences.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Qobuz.com streaming plugin

2015-10-22 Thread sebp

I've looked at this issue earlier in the year, sorry for not coming back
to everybody before.
Here's my understanding of the problem:

The Qobuz API offers no means to access tracks from a given position but
only to download files as a whole, so the client has to handle seeking
by itself if it wants to support it.
The Qobuz streaming servers support the HTTP Range requests and the LMS
HTTP streaming code seems to be able to use them, so we should be able
to use this feature to reposition into the stream.
However, repositioning into FLAC streams 'does require'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?88272-How-to-jump-seek-while-streaming-FLAC-files)
hitting the beginning of a frame, otherwise LMS gets confused (that's
why Michael disabled the feature initially).
The problem is that, unlike what happens with constant bit rate formats,
you cannot simply do some maths to compute a frame's binary offset,
because each frame potentially has a different size.
When playing your local files, LMS will be able to make use of the
SEEKTABLE block that's generally embedded into FLAC files to jump to a
frame located nearby, and forward seek from there (a frame's header
contains information about its size, so you know where the next frame
starts) until it reaches the frame matching your selected time target
before resuming playback . In case there's no SEEKTABLE block in the
file, it still has the option to jump to the first frame of the file and
do its fast travel job from there.
The files Qobuz offers for streaming don't embed any SEEKTABLE block or
similar metadata, though, so you cannot rely on that, and because data
read through HTTP is discarded as soon as,it's been played, scanning the
whole file from the beginning afterwards is also not an option.

If there's a solution to this problem that's not involving Qobuz, it
probably will be a tricky/incomplete one, and not worth the hassle, in
my opinion.
Earlier this week I've asked Qobuz if they could add some metadata to
help solving it (a proper SEEKTABLE would be better than nothing), but I
won't hold my breath.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Qobuz plugin

2015-03-28 Thread sebp

The plugin doesn't implement seeking in streams at the moment.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Qobuz.com streaming plugin

2015-03-09 Thread sebp

mherger wrote: 
  Michael, if you're around: what's preventing seeks from working,
  already?
 
 Not my field of expertise. I think when I investigated it somewhere in 
 the transcoding code it was flagged as not seekable. Maybe it's just an 
 oversight, as flac online streams where a dream only when that code was 
 created. Feel free to tinker around convert.conf (create a 
 custom-convert.conf in order to preserve original settings) and the 
 transcoding framework. Turn on debugging to get an idea about why it 
 decides not to allow seeking.
 
 
 -- 
 
 Michael
Thanks for your reply. :)

I'm not sure why the transcoding framework would be involved, though.
From the looks of it, seeking has directly been disabled from Qobuz
plugin's ProtocolHandler.pm.

It sounds like an interesting problem to try solving, so I'll certainly
have a look at it. ;)

From their source code, it looks like the Pandora and Rhapsody plugins
would support seeks in regular streams (i.e. not radio stations).
Would you be able to confirm it's actually working, by chance?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Qobuz.com streaming plugin

2015-03-08 Thread sebp

Michael, if you're around: what's preventing seeks from working,
already?

I've done a quick test tonight using some -wget -c- command, and the
Qobuz streaming servers seem to support Bytes Ranges (as of 'RFC 2616'
(http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec14.html#sec14.35)), so
it should be possible to have seeks working.
As far as their servers are concerned, I mean.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Qobuz.com streaming plugin

2015-03-08 Thread sebp

CommanderROR wrote: 
 Oh btw...can anyone use the skip inside of tracks function? I believe
 it used to work with the Qobuz Plugin, but it no longer does anything
 for me...has this been changed on Qobuz' end?
It has never worked, as far as I know.
And if I remember correctly, it's also the reason why you can't
synchronize players on the fly while playing a Qobuz streams (adding a
player to the sync group or powering it up will restart the current
track).



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Qobuz.com streaming plugin

2015-02-24 Thread sebp

pierrepoulpe wrote: 
 -I don't understand the pricing levelling from mp3 streaming @5€, and
 the flac one 4 times more expensive...
Streaming FLAC files will require around 3 times more bandwidth than
streaming MP3 files, and Qobuz will have to pay for the bandwidth
required to bring these files from their servers to your devices.
So that would at least be part of the explanation.

pierrepoulpe wrote: 
 on the other side,  from the user point of view, I don't see why I would
 I pay more because I don't want to use a computer to play in the house
 music.
Sure. But they need to make some profit as a company, and their
streaming business isn't very profitable. So they'll use any lever they
can to raise their ARPU.

pierrepoulpe wrote: 
 I don't want to show the bad path... but it may be possible to get the
 app id and app secret from qobuz desktop, and put it in the plugin.
I wonder whether their desktop app is even using the regular API.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Qobuz.com streaming plugin

2015-02-23 Thread sebp

Badatruc wrote: 
 Qobuz m'a confirmé qu'ils avaient limité l'abonnement BASIC à la lecture
 sur PC seulement.
 J'écoute Qobuz avec LMS sur un Raspberry + Squeezeplug, mais je ne sais
 pas comment faire pour downgrader LMS en 7.8.0.
Si l'abonnement Basic ne peut désormais plus être utilisé autrement
qu'avec l'application Qobuz Desktop, basculer sur une version antérieure
de LMS ne résoudra pas le problème.
Pour que le plugin Qobuz se remette à fonctionner correctement, tu
n'auras pas d'autre solution que de passer sur un abonnement Premium.

Je possède un abonnement Hi-Fi, et n'ai donc forcément pas rencontré de
souci de mon côté.

countryman69 wrote: 
 Real shame.  So shortsighted.  Even more annoying to have it and then
 have it taken away.
As far as I can remember, they've always advertised their Basic
subscription as being tied to their Qobuz Desktop (PC/Mac) application.
'Example'
(http://blogs.qobuz.com/qobuzblog/2013/11/05/le-changement-de-prix-des-abonnements-qobuz-cest-maintenant/)
:
 ABONNEMENT QOBUZ BASIC MP3 320 KBITS
 
 Désormais à  4,99€ / mois – Pas de formule annuelle
 Baisse de prix : 2€ par mois
 
 Il sera désormais au même prix que ses concurrents *et ne permettra pas,
 comme eux, l’utilisation en mobilité.*
This subscription won't allow mobile use.

So, you're basically mad at them because they've finally closed a
loophole? ;)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Qobuz.com streaming plugin

2015-02-20 Thread sebp

Nope, it's still working right for me with LMS  7.8.0 and plugin v1.204.
You may want to first check that your Qobuz subscription is still valid
and that your plugin credentials are the good ones.
Also, if you're -not- subscribing to some lossless offer, you'll want to
check that the plugin is set to play MP3.

That being said, I've already encountered cases where some albums aren't
available for streaming, in which case you'll only get short excerpts.
I guess it's a matter of Qobuz not having them tagged as non streamable,
because I'm pretty sure I've come across such one album recently, and
can't find it any more in the new music. So I think the plugin would
filter them out when tagged correctly.


On another subject, Qobuz would get a lot more money from me if I had a
mean to add albums to my cart (or at least favourites).
I don't think their API offers anything like that, right?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Qobuz.com streaming plugin

2014-02-08 Thread sebp

Plugin's settings in LMS (there where you specified your Qobuz username
and password).



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Qobuz.com streaming plugin

2014-02-06 Thread sebp

That. And the new releases don't show anymore, either.
Is the last update incompatible with 7.7.3 (that's what I'm still
running here)?

If so, could it be possible to get some link to download the previous
version?
I need time to properly upgrade to 7.8,.
Last time I'd rushed the LMS upgrade, I broke my whole server and it
took me 2 weeks to get it back up and running... :-(



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Qobuz.com streaming plugin

2014-02-06 Thread sebp

mherger wrote: 
 Ugh... That's what I get for not having an actual account with them.
We seriously need to work this out, folks!

I did my part... :)
15581


mherger wrote: 
  That.
 
 Guys - could you please shut down LMS, kill the qobuz.db file from your
 
 cache folder and try again? I think there's an issue with the 
 authentication. Re-authenticate could fix it.
I tried that, but it didn't change anything for me.

mherger wrote: 
 
  Is the last update incompatible with 7.7.3 (that's what I'm still
  running here)?
 
 No, that should be just fine.
Good.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Qobuz.com streaming plugin

2013-03-01 Thread sebp

FWIW, insisting on tracks that skip (3 or 4 tries) seems to make them
somewhat recovered from the Qobuz server, and correctly played again.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Qobuz.com streaming plugin

2012-11-29 Thread sebp

Hi Michael,

I'm using ALBUM (YEAR), through TitleSwitcher (and ALBUM is properly
replaced with the album name).
I couldn't tell for sure whether it works or not with other online
sources, as I seldom listen to online services.
I *think* it worked with Deezer when I gave it a test a while ago, but I
wouldn't swear.

I must admit the way tags are propagated from the plugin to LMS is
rather obscure to me.
I tried to look at what other plugins did, and was under the impression
that some (was it MOG?) registered metadata in the database.
The Qobuz plugin doesn't seem to do so, but ARTIST/TITLE/ALBUM are
properly exported.
So, I thought it would be possible to export YEAR the same way?

I'm using LMS 7.7.2 - r33893, in case it matters.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Qobuz.com streaming plugin

2012-11-28 Thread sebp

Because I'm starting to get bored at seeing MusicInfoScreen telling me
ALBUM_NAME (0) is playing ... :(

I could guess by myself it's needed to extend %albumInfo in
Plugins::Qobuz::API::_precacheAlbum with something like that:

Code:

   year   = (localtime($album-{released_at}))[5] + 
1900,



And maybe to extend %meta in Plugins::Qobuz::API::_precacheTrack with
something like that:

Code:

year = $track-{album}-{year},



I also supposed I had to export this new tag from
Plugins::Qobuz::trackInfoMenu like that:

Code:

if ($trackId || $albumId || $artistId) {
  my $args = ();
  
  $args-{year}= $track-year;
  
  if ($artistId  $artist) {



But no joy... :(



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Qobuz.com streaming plugin

2012-11-14 Thread sebp

mherger wrote: 
 If you're willing to risk some fresh code:
 https://github.com/michaelherger/SqueezeboxQobuz
 
 Adds synced playback. Plus changed all of the code base to use  
 non-blocking http calls to the API backend. Hardly tested. Not for the 
 
 faint hearted :-).
You definitely know how to talk to me, Michael ... ;)

It mostly works, but doesn't seem to cope very well with adding a player
on the fly (I had some skips, at best, and freezes, at worst, doing
this).
And it also seems to confuse LMS and SqueezeCommander a bit about what's
being played on :
13947  13948  13949
.

Maybe it's just because I've installed the plugin wildly (moved out old
Qobuz plugin from LMS/cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins, uncompressed yours
into LMS/Plugins, and renamed it to Qobuz).
Very good work, anyway.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Qobuz.com streaming plugin

2012-11-14 Thread sebp

mherger wrote: 
 Could you please give the latest ProtocolHandler.pm another try?
It doesn't seem to freeze any more using this one. :)

mherger wrote: 
 I think we're not up to seeking within a stream. Disabling it seems to
 improve the syncing behaviour while playing back. But syncing wouldn't
 happen seamlessly as with other sources. The current track would be
 re-started instead. Don't know yet whether there's a way to overcome
 this issue. The problem is that we would need to be able to get the
 tracks from a given position only, unless we wanted to download the full
 track before playing it back. Which just doesn't work with flac
 streaming from a remote source...
Too bad, but still better than no syncing at all, IMO.

I suppose the audio stream is already proxied by the server?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Qobuz.com streaming plugin

2012-11-14 Thread sebp

sebp wrote: 
 I suppose the audio stream is already proxied by the server?
I'm not familiar with the way LMS handles streams, but I'm wondering
whether the server - when acting as a proxy for the players - could
cache the stream to disk (or to memory), and serve it to the players
from there.
It should then be possible to seek backward from the current position to
the beginning of the track, and seek forward up to what's been buffered,
shouldn't it?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Qobuz.com streaming plugin

2012-11-13 Thread sebp

When I'm playing a Qobuz stream from one of my players, and that I power
on another player that's sync'ed to the first one, the stream stops
saying it cannot reach the server (or something like that).
Any hope synchronous playing will be supported?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Qobuz.com streaming plugin

2012-11-11 Thread sebp

Oh so nice it doesn't depend on the desktop player, and hence can run
from my NAS. :-)

Un grand merci à Pierre et à Michael !
Je sais déjà que Michael apprécie ; aimes-tu le (bon) rhum, Pierre ? ;-)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: New versions of erlands plugins

2010-03-14 Thread sebp

Although my TitleSwitcher set up worked like a charm for months, I have
problems with latest 7.5 releases.

Basically, standard definitions like X_OF_Y or PLAYTIME_REMAINING,
or custom definitions like my TITLESWITCHER_ARTIST_ALBUM won't update
to their corresponding values, until I go to the player settings page
and simply apply already running set up.

Running 7.5.0 r30373 with TitleSwitcher v1.1.3 and MusicInfoScreen
v4.4.7.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Plugin to avoid having squeezeserver to play local music

2010-01-18 Thread sebp

aubuti;507519 Wrote: 
 I forget the reason
Transcoding to MP3?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Music IP on a mac

2009-04-06 Thread sebp

Yes, if you don't want the MIP window to appear, you have to ask MacOS
to start it up hidden in the system prefs.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP on Freebsd

2009-04-06 Thread sebp

BodgeIT;299609 Wrote: 
 OK, if I can't get it running on FreeBSD, is there anyway to make
 Squeezecenter work with MusicIP running on another machine?
You can try to change the -host- parameter in the musicip.prefs file.
But it's unlikely to work unless both machines use the same absolute
path names for your music, and the same character set for encoding file
names (I had no success so far between my Linux SPARC-based NAS and my
Mac).
And be aware it'll take ages to rescan your collection this way...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sending music from Musicip

2009-03-31 Thread sebp

Sadly, there's no such option to select SC as a player with MusicIP on
my Mac, and I don't remember having seen it on my Linux box either.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Music IP on a mac

2009-03-30 Thread sebp

b33k34;410450 Wrote: 
 As far as i can work out from the MusicIP forums there is no preference
 pane to enable running in headless mode for Intel Macs and Music IP
 development seems to have ceased - is there any workaround?
Yes, there is.

First, you need to go to MusicIP Mixer's options, and make sure
Services  MusicIP Mixer API is checked and started.

Then, you need to get MusicIP started before SqueezeCenter.
If, during install time, you've asked SqueezeCenter to automatically
start up at system boot, change this so that it'll rather start up on
session opening (have a look in System preferences  SqueezeCenter).

Finally, you need to get MusicIP started automatically when your
session opens : right-click on MIP's icon in the dock and check the
option.

Now, reboot your computer and everything should be working as expected.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] New version of OtherPlayers for 7.3

2009-01-31 Thread sebp

rksingla;389280 Wrote: 
 With regard to terminology, how about SYNC THIS PLAYER TO and SYNCH TO
 THIS PLAYER?  Is that any clearer?  If there is not enough room, maybe
 SYNC THIS TO and SYNCH TO THIS.
Hardly translatable in non english languages without requiring lots of
other words to disambiguate the two actions (not easy to read on the
screen).
It'd be better to use different wordings.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] New version of OtherPlayers for 7.3

2009-01-11 Thread sebp

max.spicer;380700 Wrote: 
 Agreed.  I'll add both options, with appropriate wording.
Maybe :
Join/Leave when un-(synchronizing) A to/from B.
Acquire/Release when (un-)synchonizing B to/from A.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Nominations for Recommended 3rd Party Plugins

2009-01-07 Thread sebp

Have I forgotten MultiLibrary?
Looks like so. Please add my vote.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Nominations for Recommended 3rd Party Plugins

2009-01-07 Thread sebp

andyg;380792 Wrote: 
 SqueezeScrobbler - No, conflicts with built-in Last.fm support.
Andy, since built-in Last.fm (streams) support does not work for 90% of
the world, maybe it should be made optional too? ;)

Seriously, it's great scrobbling works natively now, but it's a pity
even Last.fm subscribers who do not live in USA/UK/Germany cannot use
this service through their beloved Squeezebox, when anybody can through
any web browser ...


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