Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] LMS BBC iPlayer radio not working with VPN on Windows 10 in London
rbl wrote: > - I am in the UK, and I'm using a UK VPN. The VPN is meant to get around > BBC iPlayer by playing whackamole, but that doesn't seem to work for > this. Don't understand why are using a UK VPN from the UK to access the UK ? First - Most standard VPN advice about using BBC iPlayer is referencing TV. This is NOT the same as BBC iPlayer Radio. Second- BBC uses CDNs so the bbc.co.uk URLS immediately redirect to akamai or limelight URLs to DASH or HLS stream audio. The BBCiPlayer plugin uses akamai URLs but the Limelight URLs are available under the "alt CDN" menus. Some non UK users have found using the Limelight CDN URL works whereas the Akamai ones don't. A better explanation of what you are trying to do would help. Without research could IPVanish and cyberGhost just be smartDNS as you have to add exceptions. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111282 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] LMS BBC iPlayer radio not working with VPN on Windows 10 in London
bpa wrote: > You haven't answered my questionb aboitu UK .non Uk. > > 1. All the metadata stuff is generic - it can be obtained no matter > where you are or what access is used. It doesn't really come from the > streaming part of their systems. > 2 If plugin is trying to the playing UK only station menu and you have > a VPN for non UK - you'll have problems. > 3. BBC ( actually their CDNs such as akamai or limelight ) play > whackamole with non UK access trying to access UK via VPNs. > 4. Can you play BBC live/listen again radio stream via a browser ? on > ordinary PC ? on LMS server ? > 5. Can you play UK only BBC Podcast from any device through your VPN ? > > > So unless you make clear what your setyup is (i.e. is it a VPN service > or a provate personal/corporate VPN, what is the VPN doing with normal > internet, is it a real VPN or just a smart DNS - it is hard to give any > hard advice. Apologies for not being clear, and your comments have definitely helped me trouble shoot this a bit - this is a home Win 10 Pro 64 bit PC with a standard off the shelf VPN - Cyberghost (I have also used IPVanish with similar problems) - I tried the following two URLs in VLC. VLC also works only when the VLC is disconnected - http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_two.m3u8 - http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/dash/uk/dash_full/ak/bbc_radio_two.mpd - I spoke to the VPN provider and they say URLs provided as exceptions to be bypassed by the VPN only work with web browsers, and not other apps, so there we have the problem. - I am in the UK, and I'm using a UK VPN. The VPN is meant to get around BBC iPlayer by playing whackamole, but that doesn't seem to work for this. - I guess I just have to find a cleverer VPN that has split tunneling whereby you can exclude apps from the VPN, but I can't find one that does that with Windows, only Android. If anyone knows of one, or just one that works with LMS and i Player then I'd love to know but that is probably for a different thread/forum. Thanks very much for your help rbl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4517 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111282 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] LMS BBC iPlayer radio not working with VPN on Windows 10 in London
rbl wrote: > If I click say Radio 2 when the VPN is connected, then the Radio 2 Icon > appears, besides which it says > > - Jeremy Vine (i.e. name of the current radio show) > - 29/11/2019 > - BBC Radio 2 > - 320kbps, VBR, AAC LC > > But it never actually starts playing and the timer stays stuck at 0:00. > I have no idea why it is messing up iPlayer radio stations. I have tried > setting it to a UK IP address, an IP address that is meant to work with > BBC iPlayer, and making the URL exceptions in my previous post, none of > which work. But other non iPlayer radio stations do work. I had exactly > the same problem with a different VPN (IPVanish) which never worked. I > thought with the new VPN, and setting the exceptions, maybe it would > work. Sadly life isn't so simple!! You haven't answered my questionb aboitu UK .non Uk. 1. All the metadata stuff is generic - it can be obtained no matter where you are or what access is used. It doesn't really come from the streaming part of their systems. 2 If plugin is trying to playing UK only station and you have a VPN for npn UK - you'll ave problems. 3. BBC But actually their CDNs such as akamai or limelight ) play whackamole with non UK access trying to access UK via VPNs. 4. Can you play BBC live/listen again radio stream via a browser ? on ordinary PC ? on LMS server ? 5. Can you play UK only BBC Podcast from any device through your VPN ? So unless you make clear what your setyup is (i.e. is it a VPN service or a provate personal/corporate VPN, what is the VPN doing with normal internet, is it a real VPN or just a smart DNS - it is hard to give any hard advice. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111282 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] LMS BBC iPlayer radio not working with VPN on Windows 10 in London
castalla wrote: > FAIK the Beeb actively blocks 'known' commercial VPNs - maybe that's the > issue? You are right, it does, certainly for TV anyway. Hence I am adding the exceptions in my original post so the iPlayer radio should be bypassing the VPN (plus I am using a BBC "compliant" VPN too). The trouble is I can't work and listen to the radio at the same time! Am I setting the right URLs as exceptions? rbl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4517 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111282 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] LMS BBC iPlayer radio not working with VPN on Windows 10 in London
rbl wrote: > If I click say Radio 2 when the VPN is connected, then the Radio 2 Icon > appears, besides which it says > > - Jeremy Vine (i.e. name of the current radio show) > - 29/11/2019 > - BBC Radio 2 > - 320kbps, VBR, AAC LC > > But it never actually starts playing and the timer stays stuck at 0:00. > I have no idea why it is messing up iPlayer radio stations. I have tried > setting it to a UK IP address, an IP address that is meant to work with > BBC iPlayer, and making the URL exceptions in my previous post, none of > which work. But other non iPlayer radio stations do work. I had exactly > the same problem with a different VPN (IPVanish) which never worked. I > thought with the new VPN, and setting the exceptions, maybe it would > work. Sadly life isn't so simple!! The Beeb actively blocks 'known' commercial VPNs - maybe that's the issue? LMS server: Pi Zero Amp: Denon PMA-50 Players/Speakers: Touch, Logitech Radios, Sonos Play 1s & Beam, Libratone Zipp, GGMM E2 & E3, Yamaha WXAD-010, Loewe Airspeaker, Google Chromecast Audio, Home Mini & Nest Hub, Amazon Echo 2,3 and Show5, Pioneer WX-SMA1, Roberts S1, O2 Joggler, Cisco Joggler, Avantree Priva BT transmitter Brexit = stupidity castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111282 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] LMS BBC iPlayer radio not working with VPN on Windows 10 in London
bpa wrote: > What is the VPN doing ? making a UK user appear in a non UK country ? If I click say Radio 2 when the VPN is connected, then the Radio 2 Icon appears, besides which it says - Jeremy Vine (i.e. name of the current radio show) - 29/11/2019 - BBC Radio 2 - 320kbps, VBR, AAC LC But it never actually starts playing and the timer stays stuck at 0:00. I have no idea why it is messing up iPlayer radio stations. I have tried setting it to a UK IP address, an IP address that is meant to work with BBC iPlayer, and making the URL exceptions in my previous post, none of which work. But other non iPlayer radio stations do work. I had exactly the same problem with a different VPN (IPVanish) which never worked. I thought with the new VPN, and setting the exceptions, maybe it would work. Sadly life isn't so simple!! rbl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4517 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111282 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] LMS BBC iPlayer radio not working with VPN on Windows 10 in London
rbl wrote: > Or, put another way, does anyone know a VPN that will work with BBC > iPlayer radio / SB3? What is the VPN doing ? making a UK user appear in a non UK country ? bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111282 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] LMS BBC iPlayer radio not working with VPN on Windows 10 in London
Hi - does anyone know how to get BBC iPlayer radio working with a VPN (e.g. CyberGhost)? - CyberGhost is meant to work with iPlayer but the radio doesn't work. But that should be irrelevant since I have tried adding the following exception URLs (amongst others) which bypass the VPN altogether. But this doesn't work either: - a.files.bbci.co.uk - a.files.bbci.co.uk - radio-service-information.api.bbci.co.uk - The iPlayer Live Stream Preference is set to HLS->DASH->MP3->FlashAAC Or, put another way, does anyone know a VPN that will work with BBC iPlayer radio / SB3? rbl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4517 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111282 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
