Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Pandora MP3 Stuttering/Distorted, Local mp3's fine

2019-08-23 Thread bpa


Good that you found the problem.  Although your description of your
setup was good - you missed a vital piece of info - that  the player
were synced.  

Synced players have a different set of problems but sync problems nearly
always show up as stuttering.  

Audio output when syncing relies on feedback from the audio drivers so a
high spec system is not that relevant compared to the audio subsystem
being used and if there is "special" processing.  

The problem player was on same system as LMS - no network delays
compared to networked players - uneven delays can upset a sync group.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Pandora MP3 Stuttering/Distorted, Local mp3's fine

2019-08-23 Thread hokie-bird


Thank you for the further suggestions.  Update is, I believe the problem
is solved.  I started experimenting with syncing different combinations
of players, and isolated the problem to only happening when a particular
player was in the sync group.  Wierd thing, its the player running also
on my LMS server (which is a pretty beefy full-PC (LibreELEC x86-64
connected via Ethernet, not a RPi/WiFi) so I'd never really cast a look
at it, assuming the Pi's had to be the culprit.  That PC has a JBL
speaker/subwoofer combo plugged-in via the headphone port, and it seems
(for a reason I cant remember) I was using the "-o dmix" option on the
Squeezelite command line to drive the headphone audio destination.  When
I switched the the output directly to the hardware device via "-o
default:CARD=PCH" and resumed testing, all stuttering/garbling sound has
completely ceased.  Hopefully this helps someone else later

Thanks again for the collaboration.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Pandora MP3 Stuttering/Distorted, Local mp3's fine

2019-08-23 Thread bpa


hokie-bird wrote: 
> Thanks for the assist, and yea, shortly after posting I had the same
> thought, so I upgraded to 7.9.2 - 1565967976 later yesterday, but
> problem not solved and stuttering/garbled sound persists.  Looking
> forward to any further ideas or suggestions.

A better description of the audio out would help identify the problem
for example - gaps in audio but no loss - indicates supply (e.g network,
server) problem,  gaps with audio loss - indicate a player problem, 
garbled audio but no gaps loss/silence (I.e. track length is correct) 
indicates a decoder/ output device player problem.

If the problem is gaps in audio with no loss and specific only to
Spotify - it is probably a server side problem.

Can you play Spotify on a  player (e.g squeezelite)  running on the
server  (i.e. to exclude network and other players as the problem) ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Pandora MP3 Stuttering/Distorted, Local mp3's fine

2019-08-22 Thread bpa


hokie-bird wrote: 
> Thanks for the assist, and yea, shortly after posting I had the same
> thought, so I upgraded to 7.9.2 - 1565967976 later yesterday, but
> problem not solved and stuttering/garbled sound persists.  Looking
> forward to any further ideas or suggestions.
Do you get the same message in the log file ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Pandora MP3 Stuttering/Distorted, Local mp3's fine

2019-08-22 Thread hokie-bird


Thanks for the assist, and yea, shortly after posting I had the same
thought, so I upgraded to 7.9.2 - 1565967976 later yesterday, but
problem not solved and stuttering/garbled sound persists.  Looking
forward to any further ideas or suggestions.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Pandora MP3 Stuttering/Distorted, Local mp3's fine

2019-08-21 Thread bpa


hokie-bird wrote: 
> After hours of troubleshooting, I'm posting for help as I think I've
> exhausted my ability to solve;  using LMS v7.9.1 on x86_64 platform,
> connected to multiple RPi3 players running LibreELEC and Squeezelite
> v1.9.2-1165, outputting to HDMI.  Local media mp3s play perfectly, FLAC
> files via Spotty play perfectly, but when streaming Pandora (mp3),
> somewhere about the 2nd or 3rd song, with about 1 minute remaining in
> the song, play starts stuttering.  If I ignore it, the next song starts,
> plays fine until the 1-minute-remaining mark, and stuttering repeats. 
> If I stop and restart the stream, first 1-2 songs play fine, then
> pattern repeats.  I've tried adjusting squeezelite parameters (-a 200,
> or -a :8:32:) based on recommendations in other posts, to no avail.  I
> set Pandora logging to Debug on the server and below is the error that
> posts when the stuttering starts, and it repeats at basically every
> stutter.  
> 
> Slim::Networking::IO::Select::__ANON__ (131) Error: Select task failed
> calling Slim::Player::Source::__ANON__: illegal file descriptor or
> filehandle (either no attached file descriptor or illegal value):  at
> /storage/downloads/lms/Slim/Networking/IO/Select.pm line 134.;
> fh=Slim::Plugin::Pandora::ProtocolHandler=GLOB(0xbe10cb8)
> 
> No other errors or warnings in the log, and yes this is a paid Pandora
> account, which streams perfectly to other devices on the same network
> via the native Pandora apps or a web browser.  
> 
> Thanks in-advance to anyone with ideas and/or suggestions.  Happy to
> research other questions or experiment with solutions and report back.

You do not give details on full 7.9.1 version - certainly one bug
relating to that message was fixed in July 2018.

So initial advice - upgrade to latest 7.9.2



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[SlimDevices: Plugins] Pandora MP3 Stuttering/Distorted, Local mp3's fine

2019-08-21 Thread hokie-bird


After hours of troubleshooting, I'm posting for help as I think I've
exhausted my ability to solve;  using LMS v7.9.1 on x86_64 platform,
connected to multiple RPi3 players running LibreELEC and Squeezelite
v1.9.2-1165, outputting to HDMI.  Local media mp3s play perfectly, FLAC
files via Spotty play perfectly, but when streaming Pandora (mp3),
somewhere about the 2nd or 3rd song, with about 1 minute remaining in
the song, play starts stuttering.  If I ignore it, the next song starts,
plays fine until the 1-minute-remaining mark, and stuttering repeats. 
If I stop and restart the stream, first 1-2 songs play fine, then
pattern repeats.  I've tried adjusting squeezelite parameters (-a 200,
or -a :8:32:) based on recommendations in other posts, to no avail.  I
set Pandora logging to Debug on the server and below is the error that
posts when the stuttering starts, and it repeats at basically every
stutter.  

Slim::Networking::IO::Select::__ANON__ (131) Error: Select task failed
calling Slim::Player::Source::__ANON__: illegal file descriptor or
filehandle (either no attached file descriptor or illegal value):  at
/storage/downloads/lms/Slim/Networking/IO/Select.pm line 134.;
fh=Slim::Plugin::Pandora::ProtocolHandler=GLOB(0xbe10cb8)

No other errors or warnings in the log, and yes this is a paid Pandora
account, which streams perfectly to other devices on the same network
via the native Pandora apps or a web browser.  

Thanks in-advance to anyone with ideas and/or suggestions.  Happy to
research other questions or experiment with solutions and report back.



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