Re: [pmwiki-users] Status of 2.2 non-beta release?

2008-05-01 Thread John Rankin
>Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 15:24:03 +0200
>From: marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [pmwiki-users] Status of 2.2 non-beta release?
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>Patrick R. Michaud said...
>
>> Would the community prefer that I go ahead and issue a 2.2.0
>> release now, with the understanding that the remaining RoadMap
>> features will appear in a later minor release?  Or should I
>> continue to hold the "beta" designation until those later
>> features are done?
>
>Yes. You could have done he same a year ago ;-)
>
>Most stable beta I've ever run.
>
>-- 
>Cheers,
>Marc
>
I agree. It has also been a stable beta for long enough that 
most cookbook recipes are now compatible with the changes made 
in the 2.2 series. But if I could make one request...

http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/PITS/00984

This is a 3 line non-intrusive change to scripts/pagelist.php
that will stop PublishPDF users from having to patch the 
pmwiki core. That would make my day!

In most cases, one interprets 'beta' as 'buggy' whereas
I agree with Marc that beta 65 is more stable than many
non-beta software products. 
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Re: [pmwiki-users] Status of 2.2 non-beta release?

2008-05-01 Thread marc
Patrick R. Michaud said...

> Would the community prefer that I go ahead and issue a 2.2.0
> release now, with the understanding that the remaining RoadMap
> features will appear in a later minor release?  Or should I
> continue to hold the "beta" designation until those later
> features are done?

Yes. You could have done he same a year ago ;-)

Most stable beta I've ever run.

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Re: [pmwiki-users] Status of 2.2 non-beta release?

2008-04-30 Thread Hans Huijgen
2008/4/29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  *But*, as Clayton Curtis has problems in adopting non formally stable
>  software, I suggest the 2.2.0 version is now issued quickly; any other
>  enhancement will eventually follow at due time.

Political correct answer :) I do agree, though.
It's like building a bike and accepting that the lights don't work,
but the handling is perfect.
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Re: [pmwiki-users] Status of 2.2 non-beta release?

2008-04-29 Thread pmwiki
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:19:27 -0500
"Patrick R. Michaud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Would the community prefer that I go ahead and issue a 2.2.0
> release now, with the understanding that the remaining RoadMap
> features will appear in a later minor release?  Or should I
> continue to hold the "beta" designation until those later
> features are done?

Yes for 2.2.0.

Thanks

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Re: [pmwiki-users] Status of 2.2 non-beta release?

2008-04-29 Thread Henrik Bechmann
I would favour releasing 2.2, and including the outstanding features in 
2.21.


- Henrik


Patrick R. Michaud wrote:

On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 07:33:30PM +0200, Hans Huijgen wrote:
  

2008/4/9 Curtis, Clayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Is there any further news on the release of non-beta 2.2?  Our agency has a
policy about not running beta software, and I'd like to be able to move to
the newer version (I'm on 2.1.26 as things stand).
  

Within pmwiki's philosophy a beta is not finished but stable. A
non-beta 2.2 will be finished and stable.



Correct.  I'm wanting to move 2.2 out of beta as quickly as I can,
but I'm having trouble finding a spare day or two to do that.
I'm still planning to add things from the RoadMap, as well
as the nested (:if:) structures discussed earlier on list.

Would the community prefer that I go ahead and issue a 2.2.0
release now, with the understanding that the remaining RoadMap
features will appear in a later minor release?  Or should I
continue to hold the "beta" designation until those later
features are done?

I don't think any of the remaining features planned for 2.2.0
would require another major revision or substantially break
existing recipes/components.

Comments welcomed,

Pm

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Re: [pmwiki-users] Status of 2.2 non-beta release?

2008-04-29 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 07:33:30PM +0200, Hans Huijgen wrote:
> 2008/4/9 Curtis, Clayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Is there any further news on the release of non-beta 2.2?  Our agency has a
> > policy about not running beta software, and I'd like to be able to move to
> > the newer version (I'm on 2.1.26 as things stand).
> 
> Within pmwiki's philosophy a beta is not finished but stable. A
> non-beta 2.2 will be finished and stable.

Correct.  I'm wanting to move 2.2 out of beta as quickly as I can,
but I'm having trouble finding a spare day or two to do that.
I'm still planning to add things from the RoadMap, as well
as the nested (:if:) structures discussed earlier on list.

Would the community prefer that I go ahead and issue a 2.2.0
release now, with the understanding that the remaining RoadMap
features will appear in a later minor release?  Or should I
continue to hold the "beta" designation until those later
features are done?

I don't think any of the remaining features planned for 2.2.0
would require another major revision or substantially break
existing recipes/components.

Comments welcomed,

Pm

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Re: [pmwiki-users] Status of 2.2 non-beta release?

2008-04-29 Thread Hans Huijgen
2008/4/9 Curtis, Clayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Is there any further news on the release of non-beta 2.2?  Our agency has a
> policy about not running beta software, and I'd like to be able to move to
> the newer version (I'm on 2.1.26 as things stand).

Within pmwiki's philosophy a beta is not finished but stable. A
non-beta 2.2 will be finished and stable.

Also waiting, but knowing that 2.1.26 is good enough except some
blogging functionality, everything will be worth waiting.
-- 
Groetjes
Hans -
http://www.fali.nl

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Re: [pmwiki-users] Status of 2.2 non-beta release?

2008-04-29 Thread Martin Bischoff
Any news about this?
Thanks

On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Curtis, Clayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>  Is there any further news on the release of non-beta 2.2?  Our agency has
> a policy about not running beta software, and I'd like to be able to move to
> the newer version (I'm on 2.1.26 as things stand).  Failing a release pretty
> soon, I may be compelled to migrate to MediaWiki, which has built-in
> features like robust built-in authentication with minimal admin burden,
> watch lists, discussion pages, etc. Several of those features can at least
> be approximated with cookbook recipes that depend on newer core features,
> and I prefer the simplicity and open nature of PmWiki, but it would help
> enormously to have a non-beta version.  Thanks.
>
>
>
> *Clayton Curtis MD PhD*
>
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