Re: [wip] Firefox/Thunderbird 10.0 / Seamonkey 2.7

2012-02-03 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Landry Breuil lan...@rhaalovely.net wrote:

 ESR isn't really targeted to the average joe user, so unless there is a
 real need and someone proves me he deploys OpenBSD desktops using
 firefox in large organizations such as universities and other schools,
 county or city governments and businesses and that he sign up for the
 Enterprise Working Group mailing list..

Yes, the OpenBSD port and packages are supplied to a large user
community.  I doubt that I can get any kind of end user support
from Mozilla.org for my problems with Firefox on OpenBSD.  ESR
sounds like it is *exactly* targeted at a project like us.

-- 
Christian naddy Weisgerber  na...@mips.inka.de



Re: [wip] Firefox/Thunderbird 10.0 / Seamonkey 2.7

2012-02-02 Thread Landry Breuil
On Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at 04:09:32AM +0100, Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado wrote:
 On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 17:39:02 +0100, Landry Breuil
 lan...@rhaalovely.net wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Fx 10.0  friends were released, if you want it to make 5.1 (which is
 not sure at all) please test every possible usecase, esp
 lightning/enigmail.. ports at:
 http://rhaalovely.net/cgit/mozilla-firefox/log/?h=beta
 http://rhaalovely.net/cgit/mozilla-thunderbird/log/?h=beta
 http://rhaalovely.net/cgit/seamonkey/log/?h=beta
 http://rhaalovely.net/cgit/mozilla-firefox/log/?h=fennec
 (all ports needs a small mozilla.port.mk diff, attached)
 
 packages against somewhat -current (ie gettext w/ libintl.6) in my repos
 : http://rhaalovely.net/stuff/amd64/ http://rhaalovely.net/stuff/i386/
 
 It builds  runs fine on ppc too, as of beta4..
 
 Landry
 
 Firefox tested on i386-current. No issues. Thanks.
 
 Firefox 10 is the first Firefox ESR[1]. Do you have some plan
 related to ESR releases?.

 1. http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/

ESR isn't really targeted to the average joe user, so unless there is a
real need and someone proves me he deploys OpenBSD desktops using
firefox in large organizations such as universities and other schools,
county or city governments and businesses and that he sign up for the
Enterprise Working Group mailing list.. in that case, _contract_ me
and i'll be happy to provide ESR ports/binaries for every supported
OpenBSD release.

Of course, ESR is supported _by mozilla_ on the platforms mozilla
supports, ie linux/win/macos/android, and by no means OpenBSD. Source
code is provided, but if it breaks/doesnt fit your expectations you're
on your own.

ESR doesn't really match the point releases previously seen in
3.5.x/3.6.x branches which received way more fixes. Oh well, we'll see
over time how it evolves.

Landry



Re: [wip] Firefox/Thunderbird 10.0 / Seamonkey 2.7

2012-02-02 Thread Daniel Bolgheroni
On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 05:39:02PM +0100, Landry Breuil wrote:
 Hi,
 
 packages against somewhat -current (ie gettext w/ libintl.6) in my repos
 : http://rhaalovely.net/stuff/amd64/ http://rhaalovely.net/stuff/i386/

Runs fine on i386 -current.



Re: [wip] Firefox/Thunderbird 10.0 / Seamonkey 2.7

2012-02-02 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at 09:39:44AM +0100, Landry Breuil wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at 04:09:32AM +0100, Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado 
 wrote:
  Firefox 10 is the first Firefox ESR[1]. Do you have some plan
  related to ESR releases?.


 
 ESR isn't really targeted to the average joe user, so unless there is a
 real need and someone proves me he deploys OpenBSD desktops using
 firefox in large organizations such as universities and other schools,
 county or city governments and businesses and that he sign up for the
 Enterprise Working Group mailing list.. in that case, _contract_ me
 and i'll be happy to provide ESR ports/binaries for every supported
 OpenBSD release.

Am I the only one who's bugged by using ESR as an acronym that *doesn't stand*
for Eric Schwarz Raymond ?

You silly mozilla...




Re: [wip] Firefox/Thunderbird 10.0 / Seamonkey 2.7

2012-02-02 Thread viq
On Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at 09:39:44AM +0100, Landry Breuil wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at 04:09:32AM +0100, Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado 
 wrote:
  On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 17:39:02 +0100, Landry Breuil
  lan...@rhaalovely.net wrote:
  
  Hi,
  
  Fx 10.0  friends were released, if you want it to make 5.1 (which is
  not sure at all) please test every possible usecase, esp
  lightning/enigmail.. ports at:
  http://rhaalovely.net/cgit/mozilla-firefox/log/?h=beta
  http://rhaalovely.net/cgit/mozilla-thunderbird/log/?h=beta
  http://rhaalovely.net/cgit/seamonkey/log/?h=beta
  http://rhaalovely.net/cgit/mozilla-firefox/log/?h=fennec
  (all ports needs a small mozilla.port.mk diff, attached)
  
  packages against somewhat -current (ie gettext w/ libintl.6) in my repos
  : http://rhaalovely.net/stuff/amd64/ http://rhaalovely.net/stuff/i386/
  
  It builds  runs fine on ppc too, as of beta4..
  
  Landry
  
  Firefox tested on i386-current. No issues. Thanks.
  
  Firefox 10 is the first Firefox ESR[1]. Do you have some plan
  related to ESR releases?.
 
  1. http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/
 
 ESR isn't really targeted to the average joe user, so unless there is a
 real need and someone proves me he deploys OpenBSD desktops using
 firefox in large organizations such as universities and other schools,
 county or city governments and businesses and that he sign up for the
 Enterprise Working Group mailing list.. in that case, _contract_ me
 and i'll be happy to provide ESR ports/binaries for every supported
 OpenBSD release.

It would be more work initially, but maybe it would be something easier
to maintain in the long run on -STABLE ?
 
 Of course, ESR is supported _by mozilla_ on the platforms mozilla
 supports, ie linux/win/macos/android, and by no means OpenBSD. Source
 code is provided, but if it breaks/doesnt fit your expectations you're
 on your own.
 
 ESR doesn't really match the point releases previously seen in
 3.5.x/3.6.x branches which received way more fixes. Oh well, we'll see
 over time how it evolves.
 
 Landry

-- 
viq


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Re: [wip] Firefox/Thunderbird 10.0 / Seamonkey 2.7

2012-02-02 Thread Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado

On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 15:35:06 +0100, viq v...@viq.ath.cx wrote:


On Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at 09:39:44AM +0100, Landry Breuil wrote:
On Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at 04:09:32AM +0100, Juan Francisco Cantero  
Hurtado wrote:

 On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 17:39:02 +0100, Landry Breuil
 lan...@rhaalovely.net wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Fx 10.0  friends were released, if you want it to make 5.1 (which is
 not sure at all) please test every possible usecase, esp
 lightning/enigmail.. ports at:
 http://rhaalovely.net/cgit/mozilla-firefox/log/?h=beta
 http://rhaalovely.net/cgit/mozilla-thunderbird/log/?h=beta
 http://rhaalovely.net/cgit/seamonkey/log/?h=beta
 http://rhaalovely.net/cgit/mozilla-firefox/log/?h=fennec
 (all ports needs a small mozilla.port.mk diff, attached)
 
 packages against somewhat -current (ie gettext w/ libintl.6) in my  
repos
 : http://rhaalovely.net/stuff/amd64/  
http://rhaalovely.net/stuff/i386/

 
 It builds  runs fine on ppc too, as of beta4..
 
 Landry

 Firefox tested on i386-current. No issues. Thanks.

 Firefox 10 is the first Firefox ESR[1]. Do you have some plan
 related to ESR releases?.

 1. http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/

ESR isn't really targeted to the average joe user, so unless there is a
real need and someone proves me he deploys OpenBSD desktops using
firefox in large organizations such as universities and other schools,
county or city governments and businesses and that he sign up for the
Enterprise Working Group mailing list.. in that case, _contract_ me
and i'll be happy to provide ESR ports/binaries for every supported
OpenBSD release.


It would be more work initially, but maybe it would be something easier
to maintain in the long run on -STABLE ?


This is the point for my question. I miss a secure and modern version of  
firefox in -stable. I know, I know, the development is realized in  
-current and the committers are overworked :) .


I asked you because I want know if you will create a port for firefox10  
(www/firefox10, like www/firefox36) when firefox11 arrives. You will be  
able to drop the maintainership and someone interested could take this. No  
extra work for you.


I would like help with this, but I need learn well the port system before  
of getting involved in something like this.





Of course, ESR is supported _by mozilla_ on the platforms mozilla
supports, ie linux/win/macos/android, and by no means OpenBSD. Source
code is provided, but if it breaks/doesnt fit your expectations you're
on your own.

ESR doesn't really match the point releases previously seen in
3.5.x/3.6.x branches which received way more fixes. Oh well, we'll see
over time how it evolves.


Yes, time will tell.

Cheers.

--
Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado http://juanfra.info



Re: [wip] Firefox/Thunderbird 10.0 / Seamonkey 2.7

2012-02-01 Thread Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado
On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 17:39:02 +0100, Landry Breuil lan...@rhaalovely.net  
wrote:



Hi,

Fx 10.0  friends were released, if you want it to make 5.1 (which is
not sure at all) please test every possible usecase, esp
lightning/enigmail.. ports at:
http://rhaalovely.net/cgit/mozilla-firefox/log/?h=beta
http://rhaalovely.net/cgit/mozilla-thunderbird/log/?h=beta
http://rhaalovely.net/cgit/seamonkey/log/?h=beta
http://rhaalovely.net/cgit/mozilla-firefox/log/?h=fennec
(all ports needs a small mozilla.port.mk diff, attached)

packages against somewhat -current (ie gettext w/ libintl.6) in my repos
: http://rhaalovely.net/stuff/amd64/ http://rhaalovely.net/stuff/i386/

It builds  runs fine on ppc too, as of beta4..

Landry


Firefox tested on i386-current. No issues. Thanks.

Firefox 10 is the first Firefox ESR[1]. Do you have some plan related to  
ESR releases?.



1. http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/

--
Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado http://juanfra.info