[pfx] Re: No Permissions To TLS Certificates

2023-10-12 Thread Bill Cole via Postfix-users

On 2023-10-12 at 08:26:40 UTC-0400 (Thu, 12 Oct 2023 23:26:40 +1100)
Matthew J Black via Postfix-users 
is rumored to have said:


On 12/10/2023 23:19, Wietse Venema via Postfix-users wrote:

If the 'find' command cannot enumerate mode 755 directories, then
this is no longer a problem that receives Postfix support.

Turning off SeLinux is easy.

Wietse



Thanks for getting back to me.

Yes, turning off SELinux is easy - however, as it is only a thought 
that that may be the cause (I'll test it tomorrow when I get to work), 
is there any doco/thoughts/etc on Postfix interacting with SELinux? I 
mean, surely, people have been running Postfix on RHEL before, right?


These helpfully informative and demonstrative files exist on a CentOS 
8Stream machine, so should be available on a RHEL 8 box if the relevant 
packages are installed:


/usr/share/doc/selinux-policy/html/contrib_postfix.html
/usr/share/doc/selinux-policy/html/contrib_postfixpolicyd.html
/usr/share/man/man8/postfix_bounce_selinux.8.gz
/usr/share/man/man8/postfix_cleanup_selinux.8.gz
/usr/share/man/man8/postfix_local_selinux.8.gz
/usr/share/man/man8/postfix_map_selinux.8.gz
/usr/share/man/man8/postfix_master_selinux.8.gz
/usr/share/man/man8/postfix_pickup_selinux.8.gz
/usr/share/man/man8/postfix_pipe_selinux.8.gz
/usr/share/man/man8/postfix_postdrop_selinux.8.gz
/usr/share/man/man8/postfix_postqueue_selinux.8.gz
/usr/share/man/man8/postfix_qmgr_selinux.8.gz
/usr/share/man/man8/postfix_showq_selinux.8.gz
/usr/share/man/man8/postfix_smtp_selinux.8.gz
/usr/share/man/man8/postfix_smtpd_selinux.8.gz
/usr/share/man/man8/postfix_virtual_selinux.8.gz
/usr/share/selinux/targeted/default/active/modules/100/postfix
/usr/share/selinux/targeted/default/active/modules/100/postfix/cil
/usr/share/selinux/targeted/default/active/modules/100/postfix/lang_ext


As I said, I'll experiment tomorrow, and (apart from waiting for any 
further SELinux/Postfix feedback) get back with the results that I 
generate.



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[pfx] Re: No Permissions To TLS Certificates

2023-10-12 Thread Wietse Venema via Postfix-users
Matthew J Black via Postfix-users:
> On 12/10/2023 23:19, Wietse Venema via Postfix-users wrote:
> > If the 'find' command cannot enumerate mode 755 directories, then
> > this is no longer a problem that receives Postfix support.
> >
> > Turning off SeLinux is easy.
> 
> Thanks for getting back to me.
> 
> Yes, turning off SELinux is easy - however, as it is only a thought that 
> that may be the cause (I'll test it tomorrow when I get to work), is 
> there any doco/thoughts/etc on Postfix interacting with SELinux?

Packet filters, SeLinux, AppArmor, eBPF, sandboxes, etc., are not
part of Postfix. 

Generally, for questions about how to integrate with a specific
OS distribtion, I must refer you to the documentation for your OS
distribution.

Wietse
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[pfx] Re: No Permissions To TLS Certificates

2023-10-12 Thread Matthew J Black via Postfix-users

On 12/10/2023 23:19, Wietse Venema via Postfix-users wrote:

If the 'find' command cannot enumerate mode 755 directories, then
this is no longer a problem that receives Postfix support.

Turning off SeLinux is easy.

Wietse



Thanks for getting back to me.

Yes, turning off SELinux is easy - however, as it is only a thought that 
that may be the cause (I'll test it tomorrow when I get to work), is 
there any doco/thoughts/etc on Postfix interacting with SELinux? I mean, 
surely, people have been running Postfix on RHEL before, right?


As I said, I'll experiment tomorrow, and (apart from waiting for any 
further SELinux/Postfix feedback) get back with the results that I 
generate.



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[pfx] Re: No Permissions To TLS Certificates

2023-10-12 Thread Wietse Venema via Postfix-users
duluxoz via Postfix-users:
> (Sorry, can't remember if I should be top-posting or bottom-posting :-)? )
> 
> The answer for both queries:
> 
>   * The root folder is 555 root:root
>   * All other folders are 755 root:root
>   * The certs themselves are 600 root:root (I think I mentioned this one
> in my original post - I think)
> 
> Having raised this issue, it now raises another Q in my mind: could this 
> be something to do with SELinux interfering somehow (I'm not really up 
> to speed on SELinux, unfortunately)?

If the 'find' command cannot enumerate mode 755 directories, then
this is no longer a problem that receives Postfix support.

Turning off SeLinux is easy.

Wietse
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[pfx] Re: No Permissions To TLS Certificates

2023-10-11 Thread duluxoz via Postfix-users

(Sorry, can't remember if I should be top-posting or bottom-posting :-)  )

The answer for both queries:

 * The root folder is 555 root:root
 * All other folders are 755 root:root
 * The certs themselves are 600 root:root (I think I mentioned this one
   in my original post - I think)

Having raised this issue, it now raises another Q in my mind: could this 
be something to do with SELinux interfering somehow (I'm not really up 
to speed on SELinux, unfortunately)?


Cheers

On 12/10/2023 01:40, Wietse Venema via Postfix-users wrote:

duluxoz via Postfix-users:

Oct 11 17:33:05 mail.me.local email_postfix[2038]: find:
'/etc/postfix/./certs/me.local.pem': Permission denied
Oct 11 17:33:05 mail.me.local email_postfix[2039]: postfix/postlog:
warning: not owned by root: /etc/postfix/./certs/me.local.pem

What is the output from:

ls -ld / /etc /etc/postfix /etc/postfix/certs /etc/postfix/certs/me.local.pem


Oct 11 17:33:05 mail.me.local email_postfix[2038]: find:
'/etc/postfix/./certs/me2.local.pem': Permission denied
Oct 11 17:33:05 mail.me.local email_postfix[2040]: postfix/postlog:
warning: not owned by root: /etc/postfix/./certs/me2.local.pem

What is the output from:

ls -ld  / /etc/postfix /etc/postfix/certs /etc/postfix/certs/me2.local.pem

Wietse
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[pfx] Re: No Permissions To TLS Certificates

2023-10-11 Thread Wietse Venema via Postfix-users
duluxoz via Postfix-users:
> Oct 11 17:33:05 mail.me.local email_postfix[2038]: find: 
> '/etc/postfix/./certs/me.local.pem': Permission denied
> Oct 11 17:33:05 mail.me.local email_postfix[2039]: postfix/postlog: 
> warning: not owned by root: /etc/postfix/./certs/me.local.pem

What is the output from:

ls -ld / /etc /etc/postfix /etc/postfix/certs /etc/postfix/certs/me.local.pem

> Oct 11 17:33:05 mail.me.local email_postfix[2038]: find: 
> '/etc/postfix/./certs/me2.local.pem': Permission denied
> Oct 11 17:33:05 mail.me.local email_postfix[2040]: postfix/postlog: 
> warning: not owned by root: /etc/postfix/./certs/me2.local.pem

What is the output from:

ls -ld  / /etc/postfix /etc/postfix/certs /etc/postfix/certs/me2.local.pem

Wietse
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