Re: rambo
On 20/11/2011 02:22, Reindl Harald wrote: fun is not useful - 10 out of 1000 will delete such a message in these days even if they could help you Make that more like 90 out of 100 - many people such as myself simply do not have the (free) time to read every posting in every mailing list, so fun subjects are seen/marked as spam and your original question never even managed to get past my mail filters! With between 200 and 500 list mails per day in this mail account alone I do not have the time to read them all. I and my filter prune 'em. If you want help you have to make the effort. Also, I you keep using fun subject lines, someone will provide a fun answer such as the equiv of /bin/rm -rf / used in LUG groups. Jacqui
Re: rambo
On Sat, 2011-11-19 at 00:23 +, peng...@sepserver.net wrote: Pasted at the bottom of my message is my telnet session. Where is my mail? It is not in /var/mail nor is it in /root/Mail. It was supposed to have been delivered yet I do not see it. Is this maybe because I am using courier? Completely on different topic. Just this message subject was something made me half way to press Junk button on mail client. I know this caused already flamewars 10 years ago but I think would be good to tune this list to use list name in subject like most lists do. This reduces change of being falsely identified as spam and reported to spamcop. Just opinion. Tõnu
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* Tõnu Samuel t...@jes.ee: On Sat, 2011-11-19 at 00:23 +, peng...@sepserver.net wrote: Pasted at the bottom of my message is my telnet session. Where is my mail? It is not in /var/mail nor is it in /root/Mail. It was supposed to have been delivered yet I do not see it. Is this maybe because I am using courier? Completely on different topic. Just this message subject was something made me half way to press Junk button on mail client. I know this caused already flamewars 10 years ago but I think would be good to tune this list to use list name in subject like most lists do. This reduces change of being falsely identified as spam and reported to spamcop. Modifying the subject (and adding a footer) tends to break DKIM signatures. p@rick -- All technical questions asked privately will be automatically answered on the list and archived for public access unless privacy is explicitely required and justified. saslfinger (debugging SMTP AUTH): http://postfix.state-of-mind.de/patrick.koetter/saslfinger/
Re: rambo
On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 10:38:20 +0100 Patrick Ben Koetter articulated: * Tõnu Samuel t...@jes.ee: On Sat, 2011-11-19 at 00:23 +, peng...@sepserver.net wrote: Pasted at the bottom of my message is my telnet session. Where is my mail? It is not in /var/mail nor is it in /root/Mail. It was supposed to have been delivered yet I do not see it. Is this maybe because I am using courier? Completely on different topic. Just this message subject was something made me half way to press Junk button on mail client. I know this caused already flamewars 10 years ago but I think would be good to tune this list to use list name in subject like most lists do. This reduces change of being falsely identified as spam and reported to spamcop. Modifying the subject (and adding a footer) tends to break DKIM signatures. There are many varied thoughts on how to deliver list mail. Personally, I would like to see List-Id: used in the mail headers; however, all of that is really OT. Giving your post a good subject line would be a desirable concept though. -- Jerry ✌ postfix-u...@seibercom.net _ TO REPORT A PROBLEM see http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html#mail TO (UN)SUBSCRIBE see http://www.postfix.org/lists.html
Re: rambo
Yes, Giving your post a good subject line would be a desirable concept though Yes, exactly. One would think that 'common sense' would win out over ignorance or stupidity. I would even settle for a modicom of logic... I figure it this way, if someone can't take the time to make a reasonable posting, I can't take the time to read or even answer the question. As in this case, I opt not to answer. It is ashame there has to be posting guidelines/forum etiquette in the first place...politness and common sense should have been instilled at an early age. Then again, ignorant ppl would think guidelines don't apply to them. Also, ever notice how ppl cannot compose a well formed question? It is maddening. Time to jettison internet 1 and start internet 2 where certain credentials need to be verified to participate. -John On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Jerry postfix-u...@seibercom.net wrote: On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 10:38:20 +0100 Patrick Ben Koetter articulated: * Tõnu Samuel t...@jes.ee: On Sat, 2011-11-19 at 00:23 +, peng...@sepserver.net wrote: Pasted at the bottom of my message is my telnet session. Where is my mail? It is not in /var/mail nor is it in /root/Mail. It was supposed to have been delivered yet I do not see it. Is this maybe because I am using courier? Completely on different topic. Just this message subject was something made me half way to press Junk button on mail client. I know this caused already flamewars 10 years ago but I think would be good to tune this list to use list name in subject like most lists do. This reduces change of being falsely identified as spam and reported to spamcop. Modifying the subject (and adding a footer) tends to break DKIM signatures. There are many varied thoughts on how to deliver list mail. Personally, I would like to see List-Id: used in the mail headers; however, all of that is really OT. Giving your post a good subject line would be a desirable concept though. -- Jerry ✌ postfix-u...@seibercom.net _ TO REPORT A PROBLEM see http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html#mail TO (UN)SUBSCRIBE see http://www.postfix.org/lists.html
Re: rambo
On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 05:12:06 +0100, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 19.11.2011 02:05, schrieb peng...@sepserver.net: What do I make out of this? Nov 19 00:07:39 pinkie postfix/smtp[8661]: ABEB11855B: to=postmas...@dpsdirect.us, relay=mx1.emailsrvr.com[72.4.117.21]:25, delay=75, delays=75/0.01/0.25/0.24 that your mail is at mx1.emailsrvr.com and what happened there with it you can find in the log of this machine BTW: rambo is a useless thread-subject! Thanks for the correct answer! By the way I'll do a much better job with my subject lines but can you guys lighten up and have some fun? Don't y'all think that rambo is a funny subject line? Computers should be fun!
Re: rambo
Am 20.11.2011 02:58, schrieb peng...@sepserver.net: On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 05:12:06 +0100, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net that your mail is at mx1.emailsrvr.com and what happened there with it you can find in the log of this machine BTW: rambo is a useless thread-subject! Thanks for the correct answer! that is why mailing-lists are existing :-) By the way I'll do a much better job with my subject lines but can you guys lighten up and have some fun? Don't y'all think that rambo is a funny subject line? Computers should be fun! if you search help and want that busy people read your messages fun is not useful - 10 out of 1000 will delete such a message in these days even if they could help you the most important part of a e-mail is the subject if it looks like spam or not interesting the mail may be ignored signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
rambo
Pasted at the bottom of my message is my telnet session. Where is my mail? It is not in /var/mail nor is it in /root/Mail. It was supposed to have been delivered yet I do not see it. Is this maybe because I am using courier? Thanks! -- login as: root root@pinkie.*.us's password: Linux pinkie 2.6.32-5-xen-amd64 #1 SMP Tue Mar 8 00:01:30 UTC 2011 x86_64 The programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are free software; the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright. Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by applicable law. Last login: Fri Nov 18 15:44:50 2011 from pool-173-55-172-104.lsanca.fios.verizon.net root@pinkie:~# telnet localhost 587 Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. 220 pinkie.dpsdirect.us ESMTP Postfix (Debian/GNU) MAIL FROM:ra...@imemotional.us 250 2.1.0 Ok RCPT TO:postmaster@*.us 250 2.1.5 Ok DATA 354 End data with CRLF.CRLF What does it take to make a dollar?! . 250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as ABEB11855B quit 221 2.0.0 Bye Connection closed by foreign host. root@pinkie:~#
Re: rambo
peng...@sepserver.net: Pasted at the bottom of my message is my telnet session. Where is my mail? Look in your mail logfile! Wietse
Re: rambo
What do I make out of this? Nov 18 23:46:50 pinkie postfix/postfix-script[7694]: warning: /var/spool/postfix/etc/localtime and /etc/localtime differ Nov 18 23:51:23 pinkie postfix/postqueue[7970]: fatal: usage: postqueue -f | postqueue -i queueid | postqueue -p | postqueue -s site Nov 19 00:05:38 pinkie postfix/smtpd[8578]: connect from localhost[127.0.0.1] Nov 19 00:06:52 pinkie postfix/smtpd[8578]: ABEB11855B: client=localhost[127.0.0.1] Nov 19 00:07:38 pinkie postfix/cleanup[8614]: ABEB11855B: message-id=2019000652.abeb118...@pinkie.dpsdirect.us Nov 19 00:07:38 pinkie postfix/qmgr[3458]: ABEB11855B: from=ra...@imemotional.us, size=384, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Nov 19 00:07:38 pinkie postfix/smtp[8661]: certificate verification failed for mx1.emailsrvr.com[72.4.117.21]:25: untrusted issuer /C=US/O=Equifax Secure Inc./CN=Equif$ Nov 19 00:07:39 pinkie postfix/smtp[8661]: ABEB11855B: to=postmas...@dpsdirect.us, relay=mx1.emailsrvr.com[72.4.117.21]:25, delay=75, delays=75/0.01/0.25/0.24, dsn=2$ Nov 19 00:07:39 pinkie postfix/qmgr[3458]: ABEB11855B: removed Nov 19 00:07:51 pinkie postfix/smtpd[8578]: disconnect from localhost[127.0.0.1] Nov 19 00:08:54 pinkie postfix/smtpd[8578]: connect from localhost[127.0.0.1] Nov 19 00:09:55 pinkie postfix/smtpd[8578]: disconnect from localhost[127.0.0.1]
Re: rambo
OH... By the way I have three MX servers in my zone. pinkie is the last of the three with priority 80 and the adress postmas...@mydomain.com only exists on pinkie not on the other two MX servers.
Re: rambo
Am 19.11.2011 02:05, schrieb peng...@sepserver.net: What do I make out of this? Nov 19 00:07:39 pinkie postfix/smtp[8661]: ABEB11855B: to=postmas...@dpsdirect.us, relay=mx1.emailsrvr.com[72.4.117.21]:25, delay=75, delays=75/0.01/0.25/0.24 that your mail is at mx1.emailsrvr.com and what happened there with it you can find in the log of this machine BTW: rambo is a useless thread-subject! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
