Re: [Potlatch-dev] [OpenStreetMap] #5189: Traffic restriction only_straight_on does not detect road at crossing

2014-06-27 Thread OpenStreetMap
#5189: Traffic restriction only_straight_on does not detect road at crossing
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  Reporter:  ErnstlAT   |  Owner:  potlatch-dev@…
  Type:  defect | Status:  new
  Priority:  minor  |  Milestone:
 Component:  potlatch2  |Version:
Resolution: |   Keywords:  road sign,restrictions
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Comment (by ErnstlAT):

 Thank you for the pointer, I found the turn restrictions editor in iD and
 put in the information using the editor.

 Caveat: Currently, it does not seem to support mandatory road signs (the
 blue one with the white arrow going straight up), but only prohibition
 signs can be expressed using the turn restrictions editor.

 Unsure: I wondered the why the iD editor also changed numerous bus routes
 going through that road crossing. But they are not affected by the
 mandatory go straight on sign, since they all just go straight through the
 crossing anyway, see the changeset number 23077652 here:

   https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/23077652

 Otherwise, easy-to-use editor feature in iD..!

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Re: [Potlatch-dev] [OpenStreetMap] #5189: Traffic restriction only_straight_on does not detect road at crossing

2014-06-27 Thread OpenStreetMap
#5189: Traffic restriction only_straight_on does not detect road at crossing
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  Reporter:  ErnstlAT   |  Owner:  potlatch-dev@…
  Type:  defect | Status:  new
  Priority:  minor  |  Milestone:
 Component:  potlatch2  |Version:
Resolution: |   Keywords:  road sign,restrictions
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Comment (by SomeoneElse):

 (not that it's related to P2 but for info)

 Your changeset #23077652 created
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/289170691 by splitting the existing road
 - hence relations that use that road have an extra way in them now.

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[Potlatch-dev] [OpenStreetMap] #5189: Traffic restriction only_straight_on does not detect road at crossing

2014-06-21 Thread OpenStreetMap
#5189: Traffic restriction only_straight_on does not detect road at crossing
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 Reporter:  ErnstlAT|  Owner:  potlatch-dev@…
 Type:  defect  | Status:  new
 Priority:  minor   |  Milestone:
Component:  potlatch2   |Version:
 Keywords:  road sign,restrictions  |
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 Greetings, I have here a road crossing, for which I have received wrong
 car driving directions using the navigation software ''OsmAnd'', which
 uses the OSM map material and I would like to indicate on OpenStreetMap
 the correct turn restriction. This whole issue is about indicating one
 traffic sign, saying Go straight ahead, like this one:

   http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:France_road_sign_B21b.svg

 I have read on the OSM wiki

   wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Restriction

 that this would be a restriction of type ''only_straight_on'' and that I
 have to select a ''from'' and a ''to'' way and that this is best done
 using the Potlatch2 editor. The restriction information is attached to the
 node, which constitutes the road crossing.

 Unfortunately, it does not detect the second road involved in this road
 crossing.

 I have attached a screen shot of the road crossing of interest, which also
 depicts the traffic situation. You can see that it is a road going west to
 east.

 I would like to express:

 1) Allowed to go normally from east to west on ''Kierlinger Straße''

 2) Allowed to go normally from west to east on ''Kierlinger Straße''

 3) Allowed to go from east down south into the ''Karl Domaniggasse''

 4) But when you come from the west on the ''Kierlinger Straße'', you have
 a road sign, ''only straight on'' to the east along ''Kierlinger Straße''.

 There are no other road signs at this road crossing.


 == Steps to reproduce: ==

 1.) Find the road crossing of interest. How to find it:

 * node ID: 293708029
 * geographic location: 48,3073607, 16,320522
 * intersection of ''Karl Domaniggasse'' and ''Kierlinger Straße'' in the
 town of ''Klosterneuburg'', near Vienna, Austria, Europe.

 I have attached the screenshot of the road crossing of interest.

 2.) Open Potlatch2 editor

 3.) select the above-mentioned node

 4.) in the left editor pane, select ''Restrictions''.

 5.) select ''add new restriction''

 6.) select ''only straight on'' (blue circle with white arrow pointing
 up/straight ahead).

 7.) in the field ''from:'', it will not detect the ''Kierlinger Straße'',
 but only show the ''Karl Domainggasse''.

 I have attached a second screenshot from Potlatch2 at this stage.

 == Current: ==

 Using Potlatch2, it does not find the second road, only one of them, the
 ''Karl Domaniggasse'', but the ''Kierlinger Straße'' is not listed and
 cannot be selected.

 == Expected: ==

 Ability to select from: ''Kierlinger Straße'' (left map side/west side),
 ''only_straight_on'' to ''Kierlinger Straße'' (right map side/east side).

 Meaning: When you come from the west on the ''Kierlinger Straße'', you see
 a road sign saying, ''You must go straight ahead''.

 If I could express that in Potlatch2, that would be great :-)

 Thanks and greetings,
 Ernst Rohlicek

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Re: [Potlatch-dev] [OpenStreetMap] #5189: Traffic restriction only_straight_on does not detect road at crossing

2014-06-21 Thread Stellan Lagerström

You can do it with P2, but there is one thing you have to know first:
The ways that are referenced in a turn restriction *must* end at the 
node involved.
So firstof all you must cut Kierlinger Straße at that node. After that, 
everything works as expected.
(Also check the IDs of the two pieces before you continue. They will 
have the same name, and will be hard to tell apart in the dropdown menu.)
In my opinion, the type restriction that closes matches what is allowed 
is actually no right turn from the west apart of Kierlinger Straße 
into Karl Domaniggasse.


/Stellan

On 2014-06-21 14:25, OpenStreetMap wrote:

#5189: Traffic restriction only_straight_on does not detect road at crossing
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  Reporter:  ErnstlAT|  Owner:  potlatch-dev@…
  Type:  defect  | Status:  new
  Priority:  minor   |  Milestone:
Component:  potlatch2   |Version:
  Keywords:  road sign,restrictions  |
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  Greetings, I have here a road crossing, for which I have received wrong
  car driving directions using the navigation software ''OsmAnd'', which
  uses the OSM map material and I would like to indicate on OpenStreetMap
  the correct turn restriction. This whole issue is about indicating one
  traffic sign, saying Go straight ahead, like this one:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:France_road_sign_B21b.svg

  I have read on the OSM wiki

wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Restriction

  that this would be a restriction of type ''only_straight_on'' and that I
  have to select a ''from'' and a ''to'' way and that this is best done
  using the Potlatch2 editor. The restriction information is attached to the
  node, which constitutes the road crossing.

  Unfortunately, it does not detect the second road involved in this road
  crossing.

  I have attached a screen shot of the road crossing of interest, which also
  depicts the traffic situation. You can see that it is a road going west to
  east.

  I would like to express:

  1) Allowed to go normally from east to west on ''Kierlinger Straße''

  2) Allowed to go normally from west to east on ''Kierlinger Straße''

  3) Allowed to go from east down south into the ''Karl Domaniggasse''

  4) But when you come from the west on the ''Kierlinger Straße'', you have
  a road sign, ''only straight on'' to the east along ''Kierlinger Straße''.

  There are no other road signs at this road crossing.


  == Steps to reproduce: ==

  1.) Find the road crossing of interest. How to find it:

  * node ID: 293708029
  * geographic location: 48,3073607, 16,320522
  * intersection of ''Karl Domaniggasse'' and ''Kierlinger Straße'' in the
  town of ''Klosterneuburg'', near Vienna, Austria, Europe.

  I have attached the screenshot of the road crossing of interest.

  2.) Open Potlatch2 editor

  3.) select the above-mentioned node

  4.) in the left editor pane, select ''Restrictions''.

  5.) select ''add new restriction''

  6.) select ''only straight on'' (blue circle with white arrow pointing
  up/straight ahead).

  7.) in the field ''from:'', it will not detect the ''Kierlinger Straße'',
  but only show the ''Karl Domainggasse''.

  I have attached a second screenshot from Potlatch2 at this stage.

  == Current: ==

  Using Potlatch2, it does not find the second road, only one of them, the
  ''Karl Domaniggasse'', but the ''Kierlinger Straße'' is not listed and
  cannot be selected.

  == Expected: ==

  Ability to select from: ''Kierlinger Straße'' (left map side/west side),
  ''only_straight_on'' to ''Kierlinger Straße'' (right map side/east side).

  Meaning: When you come from the west on the ''Kierlinger Straße'', you see
  a road sign saying, ''You must go straight ahead''.

  If I could express that in Potlatch2, that would be great :-)

  Thanks and greetings,
  Ernst Rohlicek




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Re: [Potlatch-dev] [OpenStreetMap] #5189: Traffic restriction only_straight_on does not detect road at crossing

2014-06-21 Thread OpenStreetMap
#5189: Traffic restriction only_straight_on does not detect road at crossing
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  Reporter:  ErnstlAT   |  Owner:  potlatch-dev@…
  Type:  defect | Status:  new
  Priority:  minor  |  Milestone:
 Component:  potlatch2  |Version:
Resolution: |   Keywords:  road sign,restrictions
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Comment (by smsm1):

 You may find it easier to use the iD editor, which now has a dedicated
 editor for turn restrictions.

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