Re: dock menu always says 'force quit'

[Rick Lecoat]

No, no Alt key. Just a simple ctrl-click (actually a right-click with my
2-button mouse). As an idiot-test I also tried the normal-click-and-hold
which also calls the contextual menu for the dock item, and that also
shows Force Quit.

How strange! Apart from that small glitch PM is working fine.
Rick
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Original message:
Received from Rene Merz on 18/8/06 at 11:58

>Do-you press the "alt" key too when clicking into the dock icon?
>Then it offers allways "force quit".
>"quit" is given with mouseclick and mouse key down only or with mouse
>click + "ctrl" key

Re: dock menu always says 'force quit'

[Derry Thompson]

Rick Lecoat at [EMAIL PROTECTED] said on Fri, 18 Aug 2006 11:12:57 +0100

>icon always says "Force quit" at the bottom instead of just "Quit". I
>have no idea why this should be; the application has not crashed and
>seems to be responding as normal -- mail is retrieved and sent without
>any problem.
>
>A quit and relaunch has made no difference. Activity monitor reports
>nothing unusual (at least to my untrained eyes) regarding Powermail, and
>yet right-clicking on the dock icon still gives me the disconcerting
>option to Force quit, as if the app had hung.
>
>Anyone else?
>Rick


Mine says "quit"

Cheers

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Re: dock menu always says 'force quit'

[Sean McBride]

Rene Merz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2006-08-18 08:59 said:

>>No, no Alt key. Just a simple ctrl-click (actually a right-click with my
>>2-button mouse). As an idiot-test I also tried the normal-click-and-hold
>>which also calls the contextual menu for the dock item, and that also
>>shows Force Quit.
>
>I think that it could have to do with the programing of the buttons of
>your mouse.

Is PowerMail the only app where it's always Force Quit?  If so, that
rules out your mouse.

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Re: dock menu always says 'force quit'

[Derry Thompson]

Rene Merz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] said on Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:59:53 +0200

>I think that it could have to do with the programing of the buttons of
>your mouse.

Nah, I'm doing a control/right click too. 

Cheers

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dock menu always says 'force quit'

[Rick Lecoat]

I've just noticed that for some reason, the contextual menu on PM's dock
icon always says "Force quit" at the bottom instead of just "Quit". I
have no idea why this should be; the application has not crashed and
seems to be responding as normal -- mail is retrieved and sent without
any problem.

A quit and relaunch has made no difference. Activity monitor reports
nothing unusual (at least to my untrained eyes) regarding Powermail, and
yet right-clicking on the dock icon still gives me the disconcerting
option to Force quit, as if the app had hung.

Anyone else?
Rick

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Re: dock menu always says 'force quit'

[Rene Merz]

Rick Lecoat wrote:

>and
>yet right-clicking on the dock icon still gives me the disconcerting
>option to Force quit, as if the app had hung.

Do-you press the "alt" key too when clicking into the dock icon?
Then it offers allways "force quit".
"quit" is given with mouseclick and mouse key down only or with mouse
click + "ctrl" key

Re: dock menu always says 'force quit'

[Rene Merz]

Rick Lecoat wrote:

>No, no Alt key. Just a simple ctrl-click (actually a right-click with my
>2-button mouse). As an idiot-test I also tried the normal-click-and-hold
>which also calls the contextual menu for the dock item, and that also
>shows Force Quit.

I think that it could have to do with the programing of the buttons of
your mouse.

Re: dock menu always says 'force quit'

[Rick Lecoat]

No, if the button that is supposed to give me a 'ctrl-click' is actually
giving me 'alt-ctrl-click' I think that I'd have noticed by now.

My mouse settings are correct. And PM is the only app who's dock icon
menu shows Force Quit.

Rick

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Original message:
Received from Rene Merz on 18/8/06 at 13:59

>I think that it could have to do with the programing of the buttons of
>your mouse.

Re: SPAM Question

[Michael Tsai]

On Aug 17, 2006, at 1:48 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote:

>> which confirms this. What you should do is make sure that "Exclude my
>> addresses" is checked in SpamSieve's preferences:
>
> I can't.
> I send out gig notification often.  Sometime I send mail to myself  
> when
> ISP is in question.  I need this enabled.
>
> I believe it makes more sense if actual name is looked up, especially
> anyone can get your email address easily these days

Well, if you want any hope of catching spam messages sent using your  
address, you (currently) must use "Exclude my addresses." If you want  
to always accept messages sent using your name, you could create a  
whitelist rule:

From (name) Is Equal To A-NO-NE

Or you could edit the "Spam: evaluate" filter in PowerMail so that it  
only applies SpamSieve if the name is not "A-NO-NE" *and* the address  
is not "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". I don't think there's a way to set this  
up in the UI, but it could probably be done with an AppleScript  
filter condition.

-- 
Michael Tsai 

Re: SPAM Question

[A-NO-NE Music]

Michael Tsai / 2006/08/17 / 01:24 PM wrote:

>which confirms this. What you should do is make sure that "Exclude my  
>addresses" is checked in SpamSieve's preferences:

I can't.
I send out gig notification often.  Sometime I send mail to myself when
ISP is in question.  I need this enabled.

I believe it makes more sense if actual name is looked up, especially
anyone can get your email address easily these days (like you printed
mine on your message, while this list archive is now public!)

- Hiro

Re: SPAM Question

[Michael Tsai]

On Aug 17, 2006, at 12:30 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote:

> Actually, you are right that is the exact cause, except that it is
> looking at the address only.

As you told me via private e-mail, the SpamSieve log said:

 Reason: sender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> in address book

which confirms this. What you should do is make sure that "Exclude my  
addresses" is checked in SpamSieve's preferences:

 

and that the above address is on the "Me" card in the system Address  
Book.

> If it checks the name field, they shouldn't match.

SpamSieve doesn't match the sender name against the name in the  
address book. The idea of using the address book in the first place  
is as a safety feature. SpamSieve would probably classify messages  
from your regular correspondents correctly, anyway, but if you tell  
it to use the address book you can be sure that those messages will  
never be classified as spam. It's extra piece of mind, at the  
possible cost of a few spam messages with forged addresses getting  
through. Since there are plenty of legitimate reasons why the sender  
name might not exactly match the one in the address book, SpamSieve  
cannot look at the name without compromising the safety--so the  
address book filter just looks at the address.

-- 
Michael Tsai 

Re: SPAM Question

[A-NO-NE Music]

Koen Beerens / 2006/08/17 / 11:59 AM wrote:

>I use Spamfire and it has an option that includes address book contacts.
>I'm not sure Spamsieve has this feature but I think it does. Either
>remove/change your e-mail address from your card or disable that option
>in Spamsieve.

Actually, you are right that is the exact cause, except that it is
looking at the address only.  If it checks the name field, they
shouldn't match.  On the other hand, I don't know how exactly it works. 
I leave it to Michael :-)

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- Hiro

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Re: PowerMail Crashes after moving to newer Mac

[Art Wheat]

Downloaded OnyX and ran the permissions fixer (couple of others 
mentioned that was where they had trouble) and fixed it.

Its been about 8 months since I could use my PowerMail. I was using a 
free app but leaving mail on the server then opening PM and downloading 
mail which removed it from the server so I never lost any mail (except 
my sent mail which I will port over).

It is great to be back. I owe it all to this community.
Thank you so much to all who replied. You have been a tremendous help!
Art


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Rene Merz wrote:
> Art Wheat wrote:
> 
> 
>>Hello:
>>I've had a terrible time getting PowerMail to work on my new Mac. It 
>>will launch OK but when I open most other windows within the application 
>>it crashes.
>>
>>Any words of wisdom or help from someone who has had similar problems 
>>would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>I'm running on a G5 iMac
>>2GB of RAM
>>Mac OS X 10.4.7 (8J135)
>>PowerMail 5.2.2 with SpamSeive 2.4
> 
> 
> We are on PowerMail 5.2.3 an SpamSieve 2.4.4
> You should make an update.
> 
> Ever repaired/updated the User Rights? (--> HD Serviceprogram or OnyX or
> similar Tools)
> 
> If it doesn't help: Try a new installation of PowerMail
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: Beta testers needed: iPhoto Mailer Patcher 4.1

[Karsten Liere]

Hurray! Finally...

Thank you, thank you, thank you...

kl.

>Hi all,
>
>I have helped Simon Jacquier update his iPhoto Mailer Patcher
>application.  For those that don't know, it allows PowerMail (and other
>apps) to be used by iPhoto for emailing pictures.
>
>This version now supports iPhoto 6.0.4 (it was previously stuck at 4.0.x).
>
>Would any of you care to test it?
>
>It's available here,
>
>
>Thanks!
>
>--
>
>Sean McBride, B. Eng [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Mac Software Designer   Montréal, Québec, Canada
>
>
>

Re: SPAM Question

[Koen Beerens]

On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:43:38 -0400, A-NO-NE Music wrote:

>
>Have been wanting to ask this question for a long time.
>
>I get tons of SPAM which sender is my address but the sender _name_ is
>someone else, and the TO is also identical to FROM.
>
>From: "SomeoneElseNoIdeaWhoThatIs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "SomeoneElseNoIdeaWhoThatIs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Neither PM nor SpamSieve tags nothing on these, and have been wondering
>why.  It looks pretty obvious SPAM to me, no?
>
>-- 
>

I use Spamfire and it has an option that includes address book contacts.
I'm not sure Spamsieve has this feature but I think it does. Either
remove/change your e-mail address from your card or disable that option
in Spamsieve.
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Best Regards,
Koen

Macintosh for productivity. UNIX flavors for servers. Palm/Visor for mobility.
Windows to feed the Black Hole in your IT budget.

Re: PowerMail Crashes after moving to newer Mac

[A-NO-NE Music]

Is this the entire crash log?  It is indicating only the memory address
of the crashed thread, but not even the app ID?  Is this a new thing on
Intel Mac?

Ouch!

-Hiro



Art Wheat / 2006/08/17 / 10:17 AM wrote:

>Command: ???
>Path:???
>Parent:  ??? [0]
>
>Version: ??? (???)
>
>PID:-1
>Thread: Unknown
>
>Exception:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
>Codes:  KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x
>(null)
>Unknown thread crashed with PPC Thread State 64:
>   srr0: 0x srr1: 0x10004200f930 
> vrsave: 0xfff0
> cr: 0x84048422  xer: 0x   lr: 
>0x8fe24e04  ctr: 0x
> r0: 0x   r1: 0xbfff7e20   r2: 
>0x8fe5c568   r3: 0x0100
> r4: 0x00cc   r5: 0x1000   r6: 
>0x   r7: 0x8fe540f8
> r8: 0x0064   r9: 0x  r10: 
>0x0012  r11: 0xfeedface
>r12: 0x  r13: 0x00a0  r14: 
>0xbfffaad0  r15: 0xbfffab10
>r16: 0x009f  r17: 0xbfffa830  r18: 
>0xbfffa7b0  r19: 0x00a0
>r20: 0xbfff9998  r21: 0xbfff9ee0  r22: 
>0x8fe540f8  r23: 0x00cc
>r24: 0x8fe54ba8  r25: 0x0100  r26: 
>0xbfff7f40  r27: 0x8fe540f8
>r28: 0x8fe640f8  r29: 0x00cc  r30: 
>0x8fe5a928  r31: 0x8fe24ba8
>
>Binary Images Description:
>
>*

Re: PowerMail Crashes after moving to newer Mac

[C. A. Niemiec]

>How could-he when PM crashs?

Duh... :embarassed:


The Help menu item generates a message to this address:

PowerMail support <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


with contents:

PowerMail support case [random six character identifier, e.g. #LSLWYH]
PowerMail version: [e.g.: PowerMail version 5.2.3 build 4406 English]
Mac OS version: [your OS version, e.g.: 10.4.7]
Customer ID: [the 25 characters from your registration key]

And put whatever your problem is after that.


 for those who have never found/used it before.

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