Re: SpamSieve slowness

2008-09-09 Thread Michael Lewis
Thanks for the info Matthias and Michael. Since it will likely be some
time before I can get the new computer, maybe I'll go ahead and pick up
Leopard after all.

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SpamSieve slowness

2008-09-08 Thread Jeremy Hughes
Hi,

SpamSieve seems to have become really slow for me recently, and I
suspect it is because my spam corpus is pretty large (345,672 messages,
2,390,729 words).

Does this seem unreasonably large?

There used to be a Prune Corpus option, but this has disappeared -
should I just open the corpus and delete everything that was Last Used
before 2008?

I first noticed the slowness after moving from Tiger to Leopard a few
weeks back - not sure if this is connected.

Jeremy




Re: SpamSieve slowness

2008-09-08 Thread Michael Tsai

On Sep 8, 2008, at 1:25 PM, Jeremy Hughes wrote:


SpamSieve seems to have become really slow for me recently, and I
suspect it is because my spam corpus is pretty large (345,672  
messages,

2,390,729 words).

Does this seem unreasonably large?


Yes, it's normal to have under 2,000 messages and 200,000 words in the  
corpus.



There used to be a Prune Corpus option, but this has disappeared -
should I just open the corpus and delete everything that was Last  
Used

before 2008?


That would certainly make it faster. It would probably be better for  
the accuracy, however, if you reset the corpus and then re-trained  
SpamSieve with a smaller number of recent messages:


http://c-command.com/spamsieve/manual-ah/using-spamsieve-with-yo

SpamSieve's auto-training feature has been improved since you started  
using it, so the corpus will no longer grow so large by itself.



I first noticed the slowness after moving from Tiger to Leopard a few
weeks back - not sure if this is connected.



Yes, it runs faster on Tiger. Apple made some of the APIs much slower  
in Leopard.


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Michael Tsai http://c-command.com




Re: SpamSieve slowness

2008-09-08 Thread Michael Lewis
Michael Tsai sez:

Yes, it runs faster on Tiger. Apple made some of the APIs much slower  
in Leopard.

Sorry for drifintg off topic a bit, but this makes me want to ask something...

I haven't used the newer Leopard yet. This makes me want to ask if the
slowness is noticeable on newer Macs or not? I didn't install it on my
current G4 systems because I suspected it would bog down, but I figured
that'd be more due to the eye candy than the internal stuff.

Am I going to be disappointed when I finally am able to get that Intel
iMac I've been eyeing? (probably around the beginning of 2009...)

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Michael Lewis
Off Balance Productions
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Re: SpamSieve slowness

2008-09-08 Thread Matthias Schmidt
Am/On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 21:23:56 -0500 schrieb/wrote Michael Lewis:

Michael Tsai sez:

Yes, it runs faster on Tiger. Apple made some of the APIs much slower
in Leopard.

Sorry for drifintg off topic a bit, but this makes me want to ask
something...

I haven't used the newer Leopard yet. This makes me want to ask if the
slowness is noticeable on newer Macs or not? I didn't install it on my
current G4 systems because I suspected it would bog down, but I figured
that'd be more due to the eye candy than the internal stuff.

I'm running Leopard on both, a G4 PowerBook and a MacBook Pro and we are
very pleased with the performance and stability on both boxes.
The G4 doesn't feel slower than under Tiger.



Thanks and all the best

Matthias




Re: SpamSieve slowness

2008-09-08 Thread Michael Tsai

On Sep 8, 2008, at 10:23 PM, Michael Lewis wrote:


Yes, it runs faster on Tiger. Apple made some of the APIs much slower
in Leopard.


Sorry for drifintg off topic a bit, but this makes me want to ask  
something...


I haven't used the newer Leopard yet. This makes me want to ask if the
slowness is noticeable on newer Macs or not? I didn't install it on my
current G4 systems because I suspected it would bog down, but I  
figured

that'd be more due to the eye candy than the internal stuff.


The part that's much slower is a very specific area that SpamSieve  
happens to stress a lot, but which most applications don't. When  
running on Leopard, SpamSieve uses my own code instead, which is much  
faster than Leopard's but not as fast as Tiger's. With a normal-sized  
SpamSieve corpus, the difference is barely noticeable.


Overall, I'd say that Leopard is only slightly slower than Tiger on a  
G4. If you have a GB of RAM, I'd definitely run Leopard.


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Michael Tsai http://c-command.com